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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by felixomor: 3:23pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Lmao |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:26pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: I made my claims and provided my own evidence. You refused to accept it and insisted that I should provide your own specific kind of evidence. I will provide ot only after you give me an example of the evidence you want so that I'll see it before getting yours. I'll need you to provide me with the specific pictures and dates you were provided with as proof before you believed so that I can get it for you. . How on earth can you relate a book with an idea? First you were on about an idea and now you are sitting on a book? Are you this daft? Just show that this thing that existed before the book is real on its own without human input. Just show how it existed and what it did on its own to let people know about it without human input. It shouldn't be difficult for you. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 3:26pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: The problem is s that even a fool doesn't know when they speak wisdom (ask the High Priest that killed Jesus) Your right, you get to God with tears, humility, brokenness not by Him condemning you but by you realising your imperfection compared to his perfection. I didn't tell you but the stone in your heart is bound to cause you to sink if you don't repent. I said to you, flesh and blood can't not right, yes And told you to desire him, for he sees the heart of all men, he judges the intent of all hearts Ask yourself do you honestly desire to see God If not, it's because you are not His child. You can never be able to cry out to him Even the devil sowed tares when the Lord sowed wheat. You have no fear for your soul because you believe you have none. You don't seek home, but this grave laid in dust earth online s the reality of your past and destiny, oblivion. But such mercy of non existence isn't even granted If you knew who spoke with you, if you heart wasn't so blind you might actual pray to see |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:27pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
felixomor: I have been laughing so hard right from when I began engaging them. Not one of them ever and I mean ever makes a jot of sense. They try to push their confusion on people but to someone with a sharp mind like mine all I see are confused people trying to make me laugh and at that they are succeeding |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:29pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Guy go and sleep. You are dull with a capital D for Dalaman. You keep vomiting the same things regardless of how idiotic it makes you look despite how I analytically showed you how stupid your arguments are and how unrelated they are to your own very claim. Such a pity! |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:30pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: So in your mind you have a sharp mind. . Abeg no make me spill my drink for body with laughter . Sharp mind indeed. . |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by CatfishBilly: 3:32pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
BlueAngel444:A fool says in his heart that there's no God. A wise man says it out loud. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:35pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Am I no longer Felixomor? Is atheism no longer a man made construct which you say theism also is? Did you not say proof does not necessarily need to be demonstrated in a specific way again? Thereby giving credence to the lack of desire for theists to demonstratively prove God to you? Based on this Did you not unknowingly become an advocate for atheism and theism all at once? Did you not show by that singular action that you were stupidly ignorant of even the things you say? Did you not say the Bible as a book is divine? Further showing your zombification? Having a sharp mind is easy to detect. You lack the parameters required for detecting that. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: If a baby could understand calculus there would be hope for you. For the wisdom of God I speak of, is far greater than your puny mind. To have been used as an opportunity to reach out to others, after all there are vessels unto dishonor the Lord makes use of. It's better to be a slave to God Almighty that loves me than a friend to carnality, your so called humanity filled with hatred, greed, lust and unforgiveness, hurt people emotionless and hateless. Trust me what you think of me is irrelevant You fear death, I dont It's your end, my passage |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: If I call you a fool now you'll start baaing and mehing. You did nothing. All you did was ask for what you can't give. Did I give evidence for my assertions? yes I did. Did I tell you to provide any evidence to counter it? Yes I did. Were you able to do that? No, you weren't. So what nonsense are you on about? Let me repeat what I told you to do from my first post till now that you couldn't. Show me a God that exist on its own without human input and show me the believe system that such a God created on its own without human input. You are insisting that there is a God that exist on its own. Show that God and show how it exist on its own without any human input. Also show me the proof and tangible evidence that was probably polroof to you before you believed. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 3:36pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:39pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Oh you gave evidence? Was your evidence what was required? In atheism is there sufficient evidence for God? In theism is there sufficient evidence for no God? You are indeed a confused fellow. You made a claim and when asked to defend your claim with specifics you jumped into my ship and demanded that I show you mine when I made absolutely no claim ooo. You no well I swear down. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:39pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
BlueAngel444: So God has wisdom and you are the one speaking about it. Why should you be the one speaking about the wisdom of an omni max entity? My friend you better stop smoking that wee wee. I don't even know what to make of the rest of the nonsense you wrote up there. Just stop smoking that wee wee. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by hopefulLandlord: 3:40pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
BlueAngel444: another proof hole-ly BuyBull is bullsheeet, heart does not think or say anything hole-ly spirit couldn't inspire the goatherders to use the word "brain" or "mind", those guys don't even know what brain is, so did hole-ly spirit apparently The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings. CC: OtemAtum 4 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:43pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: You made a claim that God exist outside man made ideas by saying that you believe in an experince that is outside human ideas. I simply asked you to show me that experince that exist outside human ideas. I just simplified it for you. Show us the God that exist on its own without human input(ideas). Is that too much for you? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:44pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Hahahahahahahaha heart simply means centre or seat of thought and Is like saying " heart of the sea" or "heart of the matter" . Does that refer to a literal physical heart as well? It simply means from the innermost man the mouth speaks. Or from the centre of our consciousness the mouth speaks. Get this and you will excel in critical thinking and not actual literal thought. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by hopefulLandlord: 3:45pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
^who send this one? 2 Likes |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Where did I say this Mr lie lie. Where did I say it? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Why all this stupidity from you all of a sudden? Go back to the beginning of this thread and read where you first made your claims. I made absolutely no claim and never did until way way further down after repeatedly asking you for your evidence and when you refused and kept talking the same bullshyte I simply responded based on your own comments. Are you now blind as well? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:48pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: But you did make some claims as you just admitted. Where are the evidence for your own claim? Where is it? Where is the evidence that there is some "experience" that exist outside human ideas? Where is it? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 3:50pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Easy to see why you have this perception given your association with Dr Omor. All these arguments are unnecessary, I think you should take a break and pray to god/ask the holy spirit what to say to dalaman to convince him. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:50pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: If you ask him questions now he'll start baaing and mehing. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 3:51pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Convince me ke. Can he even convince himself? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 3:51pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Or posting GIFs 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:52pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Felixomor and kingebukasblog please Abeg ejoor help me educate this man about his atheist creed which says you cannot use a negative to prove a positive He says God is man's idea which is a positive to him and I said he should prove it because it's a negative to me and now he wants me to use my negative to prove his positive. Why and how do they forget the tools of their arguments when arguing with theists especially when same parameters are used for them? Plus proof does not necessarily need to be demonstrated in a specific way (according to dalaman) so I am vindicated. 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by CatfishBilly: 3:53pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
BlueAngel444:Of course, cos it has failed repeatedly using the guidelines in its fictional handbook called the Bible, if something has failed so many times, its failure becomes abundant in my "heart" so I can then say that there's no god. |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:54pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: ^^^^ ||||||| Who send this one? |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 3:55pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
dalaman: Caught, hook line and sinker When things are thrown in the fray one must catch big meat such as it has done to you now. So you could not deny the others ba? Dull mind alert! 1 Like |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by felixomor: 4:00pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: 1 Like
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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 4:04pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
[quote author=felixomor post=59599468][/quote] You even used a chameleon. So according by to the logic of dalaman there can never be any evidence sufficient because he keeps changing to try to blend into the environment like a chameleon. No wonder he keeps losing track of his arguments |
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by dalaman: 4:05pm On Aug 18, 2017 |
butterflylion: Where did I say it? You are to show me where I said it instead of typing gibberish away. |
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