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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Aug 18, 2017
A Plea For Help

i sincerely plead with everyone in this forum to lend a helping hand to my case, as i am broken, confused and basically at the mercy of harsh realities
i am a final year student in a state polytechnic and a freelance computer engineer which has sustained me in school since year 2 as well as enabled me contribute my quota to my family.
since the recession began my little startup has faced little or no patronage(the case with everyone) and trust me being a fighter i forged on regarless of if i had cash or was cashless.

A couple of Bad Deals and an unfortunate work related accident has left me in debt to the tune of 89,000 and i am facing deadlines which have all left me shattered and confused. i am currently afraid of my creditors meanwhile my own debtors (3 in number have either absconded from town or blocked me from reaching them)
Two of my creditors have already threatened to block me from defending my Final project and writing my exams which i have seen happen to others before. i am totally fearful of having 5 years of struggle to see myself through school destroyed by this.

i plead with anyone with a listening ear to help me with whatever amount you can, nothing is to small or to big

i know lots of people take advantage of this kind of situation to prey on people's goodwill and profit irresponsibly but i am not of that stock ( i intend to dupe or scam no one), i have never gone as far as this before but with the weight on my shoulder,my fears and the realization that no one around wants to help me, i have no choice.

i dont care if i have money to feed or in my account, i have seen worse than that but i just want to clear up this debts and have peace of mind, focus on my final exams, look for innovative means of improving my little startup and contribute meaninfully to the society without anyone breathing down my back.

Please Help in anyway. Thank you FOR YOU AUDIENCE and Godbless you.

08103134383
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 5:42pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:



Ahahahahahahahaha no wonder he said he was deeply religious..... grin

*typing like him* HE WAS CATHOLIC! THE MOST RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ON EARTH! VERY CEREMONIAL, VERY RITUALISTIC!

well for you, your atheism is understandable cheesy You never had any life. You were dead from the beginning. grin grin So it's only logical to continue in deadness which you were already accustomed to.

Quote me make Mary Statue which you once worshipped fall on you!

So Catholics aren't real Christians? Also I don't know any small mention of atheism apparently triggers you to a state of frantic typing. You need to chill.
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by CAPSLOCKED: 5:43pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:

Imagine an atheist still calling a common Statue of Mary "THE BLESSED MARY".
Ol boy the fear must have been flogged and starved into you oo. grin
HOW DO YOU LIVE LIKE THIS? embarassed
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 5:45pm On Aug 18, 2017
CatfishBilly:

Of course, cos it has failed repeatedly using the guidelines in its fictional handbook called the Bible, if something has failed so many times, its failure becomes abundant in my "heart" so I can then say that there's no god.

What something are you referring to undecided
Are you angry
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 5:45pm On Aug 18, 2017
LightandDarkness:


So Catholics aren't real Christians? Also I don't know any small mention of atheism apparently triggers you to a state of frantic typing. You need to chill.


^^^^^
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Again who send this one?

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 5:47pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:



^^^^^
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Again who send this one?

You seem to prefer deflection and insults to actual debate, it's calm, carry on.
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 5:47pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:



HOW DO YOU LIVE LIKE THIS?
embarassed


EXTREMELY WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH! grin

MY COMMENT NO SUPPOSE PAIN YOU NA AFTERALL YOU ARE NOW AN ATHEIST SO WHETHER I CALL YOUR BLESSED MARY A STATUE OR A PIECE OF CLAY YOU ARE STILL SUPPOSED TO REMAIN CHILL AND CAPSLOCKED NA cheesy
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 5:49pm On Aug 18, 2017
LightandDarkness:


You seem to prefer deflection and insults to actual debate, it's calm, carry on.


^^^^^
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Who send this one? Make I debate liars and confused people who move goalposts at will?

Pele o. Kolewerk!
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 5:50pm On Aug 18, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


another proof hole-ly BuyBull is bullsheeet, heart does not think or say anything

hole-ly spirit couldn't inspire the goatherders to use the word "brain" or "mind", those guys don't even know what brain is, so did hole-ly spirit apparently

The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings.

CC: OtemAtum

Be renewed in your mind. Guess you've never picked up the book to read.

When you've done a comprehensive research on the terminologies brain, mind, soul and man

Your reasoning would at least be sufficient to back up your folly

While you at it, since your so wise, different between soul and spirit, mind and heart and how they originated in man's vocabulary

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 5:51pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:
A Plea For Help

i sincerely plead with everyone in this forum to lend a helping hand to my case, as i am broken, confused and basically at the mercy of harsh realities
i am a final year student in a state polytechnic and a freelance computer engineer which has sustained me in school since year 2 as well as enabled me contribute my quota to my family.
since the recession began my little startup has faced little or no patronage(the case with everyone) and trust me being a fighter i forged on regarless of if i had cash or was cashless.

A couple of Bad Deals and an unfortunate work related accident has left me in debt to the tune of 89,000 and i am facing deadlines which have all left me shattered and confused. i am currently afraid of my creditors meanwhile my own debtors (3 in number have either absconded from town or blocked me from reaching them)
Two of my creditors have already threatened to block me from defending my Final project and writing my exams which i have seen happen to others before. i am totally fearful of having 5 years of struggle to see myself through school destroyed by this.

i plead with anyone with a listening ear to help me with whatever amount you can, nothing is to small or to big

i know lots of people take advantage of this kind of situation to prey on people's goodwill and profit irresponsibly but i am not of that stock ( i intend to dupe or scam no one), i have never gone as far as this before but with the weight on my shoulder,my fears and the realization that no one around wants to help me, i have no choice.

i dont care if i have money to feed or in my account, i have seen worse than that but i just want to clear up this debts and have peace of mind, focus on my final exams, look for innovative means of improving my little startup and contribute meaninfully to the society without anyone breathing down my back.

Please Help in anyway. Thank you FOR YOU AUDIENCE and Godbless you.

08103134383

Gerrout of here jor! You registered today and are asking for funds?

E- beggar. There is no free money ANYWHERE. Go and get ur hands dirty and stop being lazy. You are not entitled to anything from anyone

You knew not to open a thread cos you know will get busted left, right and centre grin

Scammer
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 5:52pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Be renewed in your mind. Guess you've never picked up the book to read.

When you've done a comprehensive research on the terminologies brain, mind, soul and man

Your reasoning would at least be sufficient to back up your folly

While you at it, since your so wise, different between soul and spirit, mind and heart and how they originated in man's vocabulary



That one is full of bull crap that's why everything is bull to him. Your question would fly over his head as he shifts the goalpost effortlessly. smiley
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 5:54pm On Aug 18, 2017
1Sharon:


Gerrout of here jor! You registered today and are asking for funds?

E- beggar. There is no free money ANYWHERE. Go and get ur hands dirty and stop being lazy

Why are you chasing him away without first requesting for evidence? Are you no longer meant to request for such as an atheist/irreligious person?
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 5:58pm On Aug 18, 2017
1Sharon:


Gerrout of here jor! You registered today and are asking for funds?

E- beggar. There is no free money ANYWHERE. Go and get ur hands dirty and stop being lazy. You are not entitled to anything from anyone

You knew not to open a thread cos you know will get busted left, right and centre grin

Scammer

Thank You very much.

if i am a scammer, then your validated
deep down here, i know myself

if you want to get your PCS fixed gimme a call probably you may land me that help i need

as for the account, yes i admit it is very shallow of me, i could have used my main account but am very ashamed of myself and my situation
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 6:01pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:


Thank You very much.

if i am a scammer, then your validated
deep down here, i know myself

if you want to get your PCS fixed gimme a call probably you may land me that help i need

as for the account, yes i admit it is very shallow of me, i could have used my main account but am very ashamed of myself and my situation

Don't let her get to you. If you know your request is genuine you will find the help you need. I do know that desperate times require desperate action and a lot of us have been down that road.

Stay true and when you do get the help you seek try not to mess things up again.
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 6:08pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:


Thank You very much.

if i am a scammer, then your validated
deep down here, i know myself

if you want to get your PCS fixed gimme a call probably you may land me that help i need

as for the account, yes i admit it is very shallow of me, i could have used my main account but am very ashamed of myself and my situation

NL has wisened up. There is no free money to dash anybody anywhere. This website is not an ATM. It is not our problem that you are in debt.
You are asking favours from total strangers, you mean to tell us you have not been pro-active and seeked help from friends and family around you?

Crowdsourcing should be a crime

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 6:09pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:



That one is full of bull crap that's why everything is bull to him. Your question would fly over his head as he shifts the goalpost effortlessly. smiley

And you talking about what exactly undecided
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 6:15pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


And you talking about what exactly undecided

Your questions to him!
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 6:15pm On Aug 18, 2017
1Sharon:


NL has wisened up. There is no free money to dash anybody anywhere. This website is not an ATM. It is not our problem that you are in debt.
You are asking favours from total strangers, you mean to tell us you have not been pro-active and seeked help from friends and family around you?

Crowdsourcing should be a crime

from my write up, i said i help out my family and myself in school, i have asked from associates in the same line , many are going through the same drought, as for relations they are few and dispersed many actually have little contact with me over the years, those i have called are giving me timelines in months.
i have done such for many people before and basically am no lay about, on a very good day as a freelance engineer i earn modestly more than that amount.

i have never had such terrible experience before and to see everyone abandon me
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 6:16pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:


Don't let her get to you. If you know your request is genuine you will find the help you need. I do know that desperate times require desperate action and a lot of us have been down that road.

Stay true and when you do get the help you seek try not to mess things up again.

thank you very much, i have learnt a whole lot today
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by BlueAngel444: 6:18pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:


Your questions to him!

Oh, I haven't got any answers but they all 'seem' so certain

cry
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 6:20pm On Aug 18, 2017
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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 6:20pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:


from my write up, i said i help out my family and myself
in school, i have asked from associates in the same line , many are going through the same drought, as for relations they are few and dispersed many actually have little contact with me over the years, those i have called are giving me timelines in months.
i have done such for many people before and basically am no lay about, on a very good day as a freelance engineer i earn modestly more than that amount.

i have never had such terrible experience before and to see everyone abandon me

Keep doing that until you are able to pay off ur debt.

At least you have an income from somewhere. Explain to the ppl ur owing that you will pay off in time.

Nobody here is ur mama
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by CAPSLOCKED: 6:25pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:



EXTREMELY WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH! grin

MY COMMENT NO SUPPOSE PAIN YOU NA AFTERALL YOU ARE NOW AN ATHEIST SO WHETHER I CALL YOUR BLESSED MARY A STATUE OR A PIECE OF CLAY YOU ARE STILL SUPPOSED TO REMAIN CHILL AND CAPSLOCKED NA cheesy




YOU'VE LABELED ME ATHEIST A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY, I CAN'T REMEMBER TELLING YOU I'M ONE.


I'M STARTING TO ENJOY YOUR JOKES ANYWAY, I TOOK YOU TOO SERIOUSLY AT FIRST.

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by JackBizzle: 6:27pm On Aug 18, 2017
butterflylion:



Jumbo dumbo, you said if we went to court with an argument ba? The person who took us to court was dalaman when he claimed God was a man made idea and not me.

That very moment he dragged us to court. My opinions do not matter because I made none. His opinions matter because he made such a claim.

So a Judge would determine that he who made the claim should justify it with evidence.

Now he has been asked for specific proof and he ended up saying that "proof does not necessarily need to be demonstrated in a specific way". Thereby defending both atheists and theists unknowingly and any judge who sees this way of reasoning would call dalaman chronically stupid.


You go to church. You pray to God. Dalaman stopped going to church.

The fact remains that you believe in God while Dalaman does not.

In court, Dalama would only beed to say two things.

1. God is a man made idea because he exists as a result of story telling from a man made book called the bible. Without the bible, there is no Jehovah.

2. So far, God has never done anything on earth. There is no tangible evidence for him. No video recording of him. Nothing. Who in this courtroom has seen God? Nobody.

Then, like a dishonest dummy, you will sit down and claim that Dalaman made the claim and still has to prove there is no god. To wgich everyone in the courtroom starts laughing

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by bobowaja(m): 6:33pm On Aug 18, 2017
This thread was derailed right from first page.

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 18, 2017
1Sharon:


Keep doing that until you are able to pay off ur debt.

At least you have an income from somewhere. Explain to the ppl ur owing that you will pay off in time.

Nobody here is ur mama
Thank you very Much for all you've said.
I perfectly understand your point of view. If I hadn't been harrassed recently even though I was once of help to them at one time. Nobody would have heard my voice. I am just pained that my debtors could just run off and business just isn't making a headway.
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by OtemAtum: 6:47pm On Aug 18, 2017
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hopefulLandlord:


another proof hole-ly BuyBull is bullsheeet, heart does not think or say anything

hole-ly spirit couldn't inspire the goatherders to use the word "brain" or "mind", those guys don't even know what brain is, so did hole-ly spirit apparently

The Bible is written just the way I would expect the book to be written if it was put together by men (who knows, maybe some women, too) 2000 to 2500 years ago who had limited understanding of the world. There is nothing in it that speaks of inspiration except perhaps in the story telling aspect, but really nothing revealing or earth shattering, though I rather like some of Ecclesiastes and if you cherry pick the New Testament, there is some decent material there, though much of it can be found in many other writings.

CC: OtemAtum
How can you expect a book which has no brain in it to make sense? They mentioned heart hundreds of time but no single brain. In summary, the Bible is brainless, therefore we shouldn't require too much from those who think through it.

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 7:07pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:
Thank you very Much for all you've said.
I perfectly understand your point of view. If I hadn't been harrassed recently even though I was once of help to them at one time. Nobody would have heard my voice. I am just pained that my debtors could just run off and business just isn't making a headway.

If business isn't making a headway, what do you do? You seek ways to earn more income. Should ppl need to tell you this undecided

Rather than just coming on NL and expecting ppl to dump money in ur acct undecided
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 7:10pm On Aug 18, 2017
JackBizzle:



You go to church. You pray to God. Dalaman stopped going to church.

The fact remains that you believe in God while Dalaman does not.

In court, Dalama would only beed to say two things.

1. God is a man made idea because he exists as a result of story telling from a man made book called the bible. Without the bible, there is no Jehovah.

2. So far, God has never done anything on earth. There is no tangible evidence for him. No video recording of him. Nothing. Who in this courtroom has seen God? Nobody.

Then, like a dishonest dummy, you will sit down and claim that Dalaman made the claim and still has to prove there is no god. To wgich everyone in the courtroom starts laughing


tsk tsk tsk. Jumbo Dumbo unfortunately your fantasy has been destroyed by the same Dullardman on this very thread. You would do well to catch up. cheesy

He proved himself to be an unadulterated dolt. I wouldn't bother proving you to be same because you already have by jumping to the defence of someone who with his own mouth declared himself one.

I began calling you Jumbo Dumbo the moment I realised how silly you always talk.

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by butterflylion: 7:11pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:




YOU'VE LABELED ME ATHEIST A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY, I CAN'T REMEMBER TELLING YOU I'M ONE.


I'M STARTING TO ENJOY YOUR JOKES ANYWAY, I TOOK YOU TOO SERIOUSLY AT FIRST.


I THOUGHT YOU WERE ADVISED TO CEASE COMMUNICATIONS WITH ME. YOU NO SABI TAKE ADVISE NI?

I AM STARTING TO ENJOY YOUR CAPSUNLOCKING! cheesy

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Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by Nobody: 7:14pm On Aug 18, 2017
1Sharon:


If business isn't making a headway, what do you do? You seek ways to earn more income. Should ppl need to tell you this undecided

Rather than just coming on NL and expecting ppl to dump money in ur acct undecided
dear ,there is a difference between dump and aid. What trickles in now from my job and others am.moving in now, takes care of school etc , if I had no deadline and no threats I won't bother anybody , with very little around me in my location now to raise bulk cash.( am paying in bit and trickles and they asked me to either bring the full cash or face trouble.
Am naturally well know to be quiet and accommodating so when they came around my neighborhood was shocked ,so was my eyes
Even if nothing happens I take solace on the fact I was able to lay out my feelings before I burst trying absorb pressure.

Thank you for your time though am kinda of feeling much better talking to you
Re: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by 1Sharon(f): 7:39pm On Aug 18, 2017
LoneVoice:
dear ,there is a difference between dump and aid. What trickles in now from my job and others am.moving in now, takes care of school etc , if I had no deadline and no threats I won't bother anybody , with very little around me in my location now to raise bulk cash.( am paying in bit and trickles and they asked me to either bring the full cash or face trouble.
Am naturally well know to be quiet and accommodating so when they came around my neighborhood was shocked ,so was my eyes
Even if nothing happens I take solace on the fact I was able to lay out my feelings before I burst trying absorb pressure.

Thank you for your time though am kinda of feeling much better talking to you

Bro I'm tired of you.
Excuses, excuses
..the tools of the weak and incompetent

You are not entitled to free money, especially for a debt that you got ur self into. Get out there and look for ways to earn more money. There is a lot you can do, you don't deserve to be bailed out undecided

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