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Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:30am On Aug 19, 2017 |
The United Nations Security Council has produced dozens of resolutions, including imposing trade and economic sanctions, but North Korea hasn’t budged even an inch. As United States President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un hurl threats at each other, it is not impossible to expect that the prolonged crisis on the Korean Peninsula will trigger a military conflict or war. This scenario brings in focus the state and competencies of the North Korean army and the overall capacity of the country to wage a war. North Korean military on paper seem an impressive force but is the reality so? In this video, Defense Updates analyzes the capabilities of North Korean military and provides 5 reasons why it wont last even few weeks in a war with U.S? Lets get started. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:31am On Aug 19, 2017 |
1: OBSOLETE NAVAL FLEET North Korean navy has about 810 vessels, which in theory could seem a threat but in practice is no more than nuisance. While their quantity is great, their quality isn't as they represent decades old engineering and design concepts. North Korean navy is considered a brown water navy and operates mainly within the 50 km exclusion zone. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:34am On Aug 19, 2017 |
It has no aircraft carrier or destroyer and has only 3 frigates, which are no match to the advanced U.S surface combatants.Large percent of fleet is made up of small patrol vessels.North Korean military is in possession of a fleet of about 70 submarines, comprised of approximately 20 Romeo class submarines (1,800 tons), 40 Sang-O class submarines (300 tons) and 10 Yono class submarines (130 tons). All of these submarines uses diesel-electric propulsion and were designed in the 50's or 60's. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:35am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Number 2 LIMPING AIRFORCE On paper the North Korean Airforce possesses more than 500 combat capable aircrafts, but almost all of them are 3rd generation and 4th generation once. The MiG-29 is the K P A F's most modern fighter and North Korea operates approximately only 40 of these. The whole air fleet also has loads of maintenance issues as they are at the last leg of their service life and are grounded lot of the times. Combat availability of the airforce may be less than 50%. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:35am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Also, The air-to-air missiles equipping fighters are also far older in technology compared to what U.S possesses. F 22 & F 35 are a generation ahead of Mig 29, and are stealthy. In this scenario, the North Korean pilots will find it very difficult to detect and target them. U.S with far sophisticated fighters, coupled with way better pilot training and strategy, is expected to quickly get air superiority over North Korean skies. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:36am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Number 3: ILL EQUIPPED ARMY North Korea has more than 1.2 million active soldiers, and a further 7.7 million in reserve, making its ground force one of the largest in the world. Its troops are bolstered by 200,000 special ops soldiers. But the troops are mostly ill equipped with outdated weapons of Soviet era. The country’s conventional forces, facing a long slide after the end of the Cold War, have faced equipment obsolescence and supply shortages. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:37am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Number 4: LIMITED RESOURCES Sustaining a war effort requires massive reserves not only in men, but also in material. Napoleon is known to have said “an army marches on its stomach”.Not only will the relatively poor inventory of ammunition will dwindle down in few weeks but also will the food supply.With these two basic items in short supply, the North Korean forces will not be able to continue fighting for long periods.It is also foreseen by many experts that as the war turns against North Korea, many will start deserting the repressive regime, hastening the process of capitulation. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:38am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Number 5: ALLIES. North Korea is cut off from the world and basically has almost no allies. China has traditionally been North Korea’s closest ally, but has condemned the latest ICBM test as "unacceptable”. North Korea has historically enjoyed strong links with China, its neighbor to the north and the west. But since Kim took power in 2011, the relationship has cooled. Beijing has repeatedly asked Pyongyang to cease its nuclear tests and ballistic missile launches in vain. Russia has also played it safe in the Korean front. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:40am On Aug 19, 2017 |
CONCLUSION. North Korea invests a huge proportion of its meager economy into its military, and its ambitious missile, nuclear and cyber programs have caused widespread international alarm.Pyongyang spent nearly a quarter of its GDP on the military over the past decade, according to US government estimates.Being isolated from rest of the world, it has failed to acquire modern technologies and as discussed in the video, its armed forces remain technologically handicapped.Strategically, North Korea doesn’t have the required technology, resources or allies to wage a war for more than few days, especially against the US. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by business4all: 10:41am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by finalboss(m): 10:45am On Aug 19, 2017 |
thank you for this bro. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by acenazt: 10:46am On Aug 19, 2017 |
Last i checked this is Naija. Wars aint fought based on what you see on the net. 3 Likes |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by finalboss(m): 10:51am On Aug 19, 2017 |
acenazt: But the troops are mostly ill equipped with outdated weapons of Soviet era. The country’s conventional forces, facing a long slide after the end of the Cold War, have faced equipment obsolescence and supply shortages Don't mind him 1 Like |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by drakeli: 10:53am On Aug 19, 2017 |
acenazt:These are facts. Give us your own fact instead of mere unfounded argument. North Korea has weighed their comparative advantage with the US in an event of a war. Reason why they backed down. You cannot know them more than they do about themselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by decatalyst(m): 10:57am On Aug 19, 2017 |
acenazt: You spoke what is on my mind. It would interest him to know that North Korea has clandestine projects and resources the world would be amazed at. Maybe people forget the Korean War so easily where by Russian unleashed the MiG aircraft series that took almost every player in the war by surprise. The chemical weapons used too nko? Let us also bear in mind, the tendencies of these Asians engaging in suicide bombings like the way Hawaii was fatally dealt with. But I feel North Korea wouldn't last in the war due to coalition that it would be fighting at the same time. Its resources would be depleted faster than it a adversaries 2 Likes |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by falopey: 11:15am On Aug 19, 2017 |
North Korea; an army marching on it's stomach |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by tensazangetsu20(m): 12:42pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
It's not about who is stronger it's about who has more to lose. The USA has far more to lose if it goes to war with north Korea. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Mazeltovscotty(m): 1:46pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
decatalyst:yes you are right. Let us also bear in in mind that it is suicidal for North korea to engage US in a conventional war. No matter how you twist it, no matter how you sugarcoat it, North korea is far below US. Secondly, this is not a korean war (north korea and south korea war) so I wonder why people keep making reference to it. This is a direct confrontation between US and North Korea in which Kim is using South korea, Japan and Guam as leverage. And they way I am seeing it, I dnt think US is ready to match boots on ground but if need be, then it would be after series of missiles have been wasted. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Mazeltovscotty(m): 1:48pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
tensazangetsu20:NO. You are wrong. North korea have a lot to loose. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:49pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Mazeltovscotty:They don't actually cause they don't care about their citizens but north Korea releasing all its nuclear warheads on USA soil will do far more damage than the USA attacking north Korea. . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Nobody: 2:01pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Waiting for zoharial, the master in anti America propaganda to bring in Russia now and try to chastise the op. Zoharial the master in Russia affairs. PhD, MBBS, COG, OND, WAEC, JAMB, NECO 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by overhypedsteve(m): 2:53pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
Zohariel has the final say on this 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Mazeltovscotty(m): 4:23pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
tensazangetsu20:how many missiles does North korea have to release altogether to destroy US before POTUS open his Football briefcase while on vacation and order a Minuteman to wipe off North korea from World map couple with the porus air defence system in North korea? Or tell me, how many minutes will it take North korea to destroy US? 1 Like |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by seunny4lif(m): 4:33pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
US will never attack NK and NK will never attack US. US can't attack any country that can fight back talkless of a country that her missiles are within the range of both SK,Japan and even the US. US has 1000s nukes to destory NK but it's take NK just 2 nukes to make California look like a Sahari desert. Remember its called War meaning no rules. NK will have in enough weapons immediately a war breakout in that region. China, PK and Russia will sell weapon and they will support NK. It's a question. Will Russia and China allow US at a their border?Never The same reason US is still afraid to attack Iran. Own a nuke and US will bow for you. Iraq don't own a nuke and US attacked her and same with Yugoslavia. Both NK and Iran has been displaying it and US can't do anything about it exp making Noise on MSM Nigeria don't even own a submarine even if it's 1940. Any country that can build missile is capable of fighter and starting a war. It's simple 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by MONITZ: 6:50pm On Aug 19, 2017 |
That China is chastising NK may all be political correctness which also may belie what their real stance is ,nd not until the real war breaks out would we know who the principal actors re nd their positions.. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Nobody: 1:33am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Comrades, Amerika seems to be in her super nova stage - where a star flares up before going out - and I know for sure that the day Amerika engages NK in a war will be the day Amerika ceases to exist. We deal with facts & not propaganda. If Amerikan military Generals could stoop so low in persuading Iraqi soldiers & commanders - by bribing them not fight the overrated & feeble Amerikan soldiers, pray tell, how then will Amerika stand before the battle-hardened NK military & special forces? US Army Chief Says Iraqi Troops Took Bribes To Surrender Senior Iraqi officers who commanded troops crucial to the defence of key Iraqi cities were bribed not to fight by American special forces, the US general in charge of the war has confirmed. Well before hostilities started, special forces troops and intelligence agents paid sums of money to a number of Iraqi officers, whose support was deemed important to a swift, low-casualty victory. General Tommy Franks, the US army commander for the war, said these Iraqi officers had acknowledged their loyalties were no longer with the Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein, but with their American paymasters.As a result, many officers chose not to defend their positions as American and British forces pushed north from Kuwait. “I had letters from Iraqi generals saying: 'I now work for you',” General Franks said. It is not clear which Iraqi officers were bribed, how many were bought off or at what cost. It is likely, however, that the US focused on officers in control of Saddam's elite forces, which were expected to defend the capital. The Pentagon said that bribing the senior officers was a cost-effective method of fighting and one that led to fewer casualties. “What is the effect you want?” a senior Pentagon official said. “How much does a cruise missile cost? Between $1m and $2.5m.” Well, a bribe is a PGM [precision guided missile) it achieves the aim but it's bloodless and there's zero collateral damage. “This part of the operation was as important as the shooting part; maybe more important. We knew that some units would fight out of a sense of duty and patriotism, and they did. But it didn't change the outcome because we knew how many of these [iraqi generals] were going to call in sick,” he added. The revelation by General Franks, who this week announced his intention to retire as commander of US Central Command, helps explain one of the enduring mysteries of the US-led war against Iraq: why Iraqi forces did not make a greater stand in their defence of Baghdad, in many cases melting away and changing into civilian clothes rather than forcing the allied troops to engage in bitter, street-to-street fighting. Some of the techniques employed by the Pentagon to persuade Iraqi troops not to fight were used with some success in the recent war in Afghanistan, where US special forces carried with them considerable sums of money in dollar bills to buy off warlords whose support was deemed crucial to the war effort. Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-army-chief-says-iraqi-troops-took-bribes-to-surrender-105987.html Filthy cowards! Now, back to the topic, there is 1 very important point the asshole who compiled this bulshiit did not tell us. Yes! North Korean submarines are old - and mostly use diesel-electric propulsion and were designed in the 50's or 60's - but......do these submarines have nuclear strike capabilities? The answer is a big & resounding YES! These alone provide NK with second strike capabilities to convert - atleast half of Amerika into a trash of radioactive ashes - just incase Amerika strikes NK first. 20, out of these 70 NK submarines are all we need to achieve this glorious feat. History has proven to us time & time again that military expenditure or budget does not necessarily translate into an effective military strength. As the German WW1 commander - Helmuth von Moltke, once opined “No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy” Personally, I’d like the Amerikans to see what a nuclear strike in Amerika looks like. Look what 3000 dead on 9/11 did to their psyche? Hopefully, Kim Jong-Un will try 3 million dead - with the CIA, Pentagon & all Central Government wiped out. In conclusion, until the day Amerika invades North Korea; with the patience of a spider, we lay our net until Amerika get caught-up in it - Zoharariel aka The spokesperson & bestfriend of Kim Jong-Un bids you goodnyte! 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by falopey: 3:20am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Zoharariel:Mere propaganda with no factual on ground facts. North Korea possesses nukes, US does the same more than North Korea. Ok let's take nuclear weapons out of the equation. What else does the Koreans have more than the US than can give them comparative advantage in the time of what? Nothing! Maybe you would like to say they have the largest ill equipped foot soldiers in the world with military hardwares of decades ago. I clap for yah and North Korea. I promise you, majority of North Koreans will desert the repressive North Korea regime in the event of war. Right now many North Koreans want to leave and flee the repression to South Korea. But the punishment for that if caught is death. No legal way for the Koreans to leave the country except through boarder trafficking. Still many North Koreans are risking their lives to flee. Can you imagine a country that it's citizens cannot make international calls. No mixing with outside world whatsoever by its people. They only have three government controlled propaganda TVs. Limited internet access and site they are allowed to visit. No religious freedom. North Koreans don't have choice in a lot of things. You can live under such regime I think. 1 Like |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Abbeybailey(m): 3:48am On Aug 20, 2017 |
falopey:Do not waste your time replying that American hater. Comparing America to North Korea is like comparing a Lion to a Deer. Just dismiss his epistle as a garbage. |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by drakeli: 4:46am On Aug 20, 2017 |
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Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Nobody: 7:43am On Aug 20, 2017 |
falopey: I expected you to address my point in my previous post but you did not. If Amerika with all her overrated military gears & techs could bribe a less equipped & weak army of Iraq, how does she intend to combat the NK special forces? And ofcourse, you have nothing to say about NK's (70) nuclear-armed submarines? Oh! I forgot, those are merely harmless canoes since they're old & only use diesel-electric propulsion I do not believe in the gibberish propaganda concocted by the western MSM about NK citizens not having access to the internet, TV & international calls, those are meant for you “sheeples” to gobble-up. Amerika didn't take this long to hit Iraq, Libya & Afghanistan. Y the procrastination & the long wait for NK to strike first? Do you know the reason Amerika is so furious & threatened by NK? It is because NK has the capability to strike back with quadratic precision should Amerika mistakes her for Libya, Afghanistan & Iraq. My priend, NK is here to stay! 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by Nobody: 7:58am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Abbeybailey: Lucasbalo, I assume you're above 40 & I expect you to come out like a man to bully or troll me instead of hiding under a fictitious moniker like a primary 3 pupil. It wasn't difficult for me to fish you out; your writing pattern & choice of words betrayed you. BTW, your lion was beaten hands-down in Syria by Russia, Iran & Hezbollah. It is over! Pepe Escobar: And The Winners In The Post-Daesh Era Are … http://www.atimes.com/article/winners-post-daesh-era/ 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why North Korea Won’t Last Even Few Days In A War With U.s? by seunny4lif(m): 11:30am On Aug 20, 2017 |
Zoharariel:No be small beaten Assad would have been die by now. Russia tested all her latest weapon in Syria same with Iran. US can never attack Iran because Iran has the capacity to hit all US bases around that region and even the same US will be hit with Iran nukes. Israel wanted to hit Iran but was warned by WH that Iran will hit Israel with her own stirkes and it will leads to nuclear war. Own a nuke and US will worship you It's simple 5 Likes 3 Shares
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