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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:37pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Mickael2: Yes, Mikel would if he was given the opportunity. If Andre Gomes can play for Barcelona, why not Mikel. Mikel never lacked the talent. He just did not have the opportunity. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:40pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
zuchyblink: I guess you feel being the best and most expensive player in the World is not prominent. SMH. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 2:58pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
I see folks talk about power vs skill. Hmmmm. I think we need a blend of both and here is how I look at it. The three main aspects of a team is attack, midfield and the defence. In the attack department, we need both power and skill. We dont want players who get marked out or bullied relying only on skill. It also depends on the formation we are playing. A 4-2-3-1 will mean we have a bull with brains as 9 and foxes as the 3 players behind the lone striker. A 4-4-2 will imply having both a bull and a fox as strikers while we have speedsters with quality delivery on the wings. (Not ahmed musa kind of delivery please!) In the midfield, we need a super midfielder to run things. one that is skilled in the art of threading killer passes and has absolute concentration at all times paired with an equally gifted but physical holding midfielder. The central defender is definitely power and not skill as they can be muscled off the ball easily if we play skill. It can be costly playing skill in the defence. Power too in the defence can be dangerous but at least all aerial balls are gonna be taken care of.the wing backs need to be a blend of both power and skill to make quality decisions when under pressure. Therefore in view of up coming match, we shouldnt be too afraid of cameroon. More importantly, we should play our game and blend together as a team regardless of whatever formation is being employed. The objectives of the coaching crew need to have been met in training and executed to perfection on match day. End of story! Question is what is our game plan? 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 3:10pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Joebie: Call it what you want, that's just it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:15pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
When will the official list be out abeg?? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:30pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Danielnino00:The official list would be unveiled this week even with that of the Cameroonians. Rohr has confirmed that Mikel,Moses and Balogun would play a part in the crucial double headed clash. In the goal keeping department expect the addition of Ex- golden eaglets and plateau united shot stopper,Dele Ajiboye. Hapoel beer sheva hitman,Nwakaeme could also make the list. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:41pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Thank you. We need loose sleep over any team. A healthy dose of confidence is necessary. I don't care about past SE. However my eyes will be on Mikel especially against Cameroon, as regards orchestration. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:48pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Very well said!!! kennysville: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:51pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
You are most welcome pyrex23: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:56pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Economic lol. Your point is still valid though. goldfish80: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:11pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
I wont say anything until d list is out |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 4:21pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:You mean right wing back? Don't think Rohr would play a 3-4-3/3-5-2. Not a good idea to play him as a FB imo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 4:22pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
kennysville:wa gbayi baba! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 4:24pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Mickael2:Oh I see. This is when versatility becomes somewhat of a curse. Then the best thing is to move him to the left and play Iwobi as a 10. Mikel should drop back to CM. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:43pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Icon4s:Of course I still expect to see him retain the vital part of his game which made him become the best U17 player in the world.If at the senior level he is struggling to get past people, it tells me something have been coached out him. I know in most academies in Europe they dont encourage players dribbling past people, they prefer playing one touch with a team mate.If a naturally skillful player is working in such environment,the result will be that he looses the confidence to do what comes to him naturally. This what I mean by skills being coached out of a player. Simply put, when a player is not encouraged to express himself, at the long run, he basically plays like a machine, which is what English football is all about. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:50pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
kennysville: That is what I am talking about. We have the caliber of players to COPE with the physicality. We don't need to go call back Danny Shittu, Taribo West, Dan the Bull Amokachi , Michael Eneramo and Yakubull Ayegbeni to pull off this one. The players we have can cope. The coaches just need to get the tactics right. We have players with big game experience in that team we only hope they turn up for the party. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:51pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
Daninya11: Ajiboye?? That's means Alampasu won't make the cut. cus Esenwa and Akpeyi would be there |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:54pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: This is Kelechi's whoscored stats, I had to do your job for you.
His total average for dribbles completed stands at 0.4, Strikingly, he only completed 0.3 dribbles last season.... That is statistically he doesn't complete one dribble per game. If you have some numbers I am not aware of please you have the stage to present those let us verify. But knowing you as the court jester of the thread, I expect you to come out with a hilarious statement to back up your phantom claims. 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:59pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: He has changed his style because unlike the U17, he played a deeper role and required to use the ball a lot. At City he played a forward role and relied more on off-the-ball play. So he does not make much moves with the ball. Thus, the low completed dribbles. That does not mean he can not dribble or his skills disappeared. As I repeat, whoscored stats know more than you. You can copy and paste from today till tomorrow, They clearly stated Iheanacho's dribbling is strong. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:05pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:The same stats I culled from whoscored shows he completes just 0.3 of his dribbles. If he dribbles inside his bedroom, na you sabi. But from what his stats say from whoscored, he's as average as they come in terms of dribbles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:07pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: They know more than you. I wonder why that is so difficult for you to understand. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:10pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Their numbers suggests his dribbling is below average. So which one is they know more than you? Do you have problems with numbers? Maybe you cannot analyse data or you're just being willfully dense. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:13pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: Do you have a problem knowing that numbers do not paint the real pictures always? Do you think you know more about those numbers more than those who work with whoscored? Is it not in one of the recent friendlies that people hailed Iheanacho for some of the skills he exhibited? If you like dance alanta. Dribbling strong. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:15pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: Lekwa who can analyze data. Please, football is more than numbers. Unlike you, I watch games and analyze. Not look at numbers and claim ITK. Dribbling - Strong. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:18pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If a player completes 0.3% of his dribbles does that make his dribbling strong? Who scored also described him as a player who likes to tackle in the column you're referring to. Please does Kelechi tackle? Lol |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:20pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: You can argue from today until tomorrow, they know more than you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 5:21pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
edi287:iwobi shouldnt start this match....he gets lost in games like this easily....he should come on as a sub....d likes of dessers n iwobi would b useful when we have qualified nd we are facing foreing(non african) teams |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:27pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You cant even back up your argument with proper data. I have always said skills have been coached out kelechi at Man city having watched him closely for 2 years. Icon4s can recall when I said this a long time ago. This afternoon when I looked at his stats, it confirmed my thoughts. Kelechi as a matter of FACT is one of the worst dribblers in the present Super Eagles team. I can say this before any oracle, I have the evidence. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:30pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Lol.. Kelechi the dribbler with 0.3 average of dribbles completed..... This is hilarious... hahah |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:31pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: Those stats do not paint the true picture. There are different scenarios that can make the stat look different. Your coached the skills out of him is not true because I just pointed at one of the friendlies where Nacho showed nice skills. You will not look at that because watching is difficult for you. Just to look at numbers and rant. I also pointed out the way he skinned the Zambian keeper with confidence and composure. Numbers can not show you that. So keep arguing. Dribbling - Strong. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:32pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
goldfish80: The same people told you his dribbling is strong. Learn to watch ball. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:07pm On Aug 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Lol..he only shows those skills in friendlies?Till he starts showing those skills in competitive games, I wont take you serious. What was so special about the Zambian goal again? Any average joe will go past an unrushing keeper. Every man and his dog knows that kelechi is deficient in the skills department these days. His stats for 3 seasons in professional football stands at 0.3 on the average. chew on it |
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