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Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 4:39pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka:I said this in my previous post, did you skip that? Homosexuality is not harming anyone it is a consensual thing except for rape cases, I said this up there. Homosexuality: sexual preference/orientation for same sex relationshipsHomosexuality is consensual just like heterosexuality. Pedophilia is an abuse on kids, harmful, not consensual. Zoophilia is an abuse on animals, not consensual except you want to tell animals talk to humans, killing animals is also an abuse in some country law. Since cannibalism is common among carnivores: we can conclude that any human being who is cannibalistic is genetically motivated.Early humans were carnivorous, we still have that carnivorous gene in us, the reason we eat flesh and meats like it is normal, there are some people that find it barbaric, immoral eating flesh and meat, they are the vegetarians. 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 4:41pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
tintingz: [size=18pt]Cannibalism![/size] Having a Pet is not consensual: therefore, it is an unlawful detention. How would you throw away the common aspect of affinity/orientation because it is common to the three examples. If you hide under the fact that consent is not possible with animals, why do we legally eat them?, why do we legally have them as pets?, why do we legally keep them in zoos?. Because, consent is irrelevant with animals except in the case of cruelty. A pedophile is one not because he had sex with a minor but because he has a sexual attraction/orientation towards children. Same with a homosexual. Is it not possible that a Virgin be Heterosexual? 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by AAinEqGuinea: 4:56pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka: ![]() ![]() "my days are numbered"? ![]() ![]() you're only following the latest flavor of week religion. This century you're a Christian or Muslim, last century you'd live, judge others, and die for the mainstream religion of that time ![]() |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 5:03pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
AAinEqGuinea: You seem to forget that as Africans, our disease is not religion BUT 1. Lack of Foresight 2. Lack of Critical thinking 3. Inferiority Complex Check out Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia: three thinking Muslim countries. (I am not a Muslim) Other countries Japan, India Solve these three problems and see technological development. 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by AAinEqGuinea: 5:12pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Yes, this should be the primary concern. Not where the next man lays his peeper |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 5:24pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
AAinEqGuinea:Of course! |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 6:25pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka: If his sister and family had a good relationship with him they wouldn't be rejoicing that his "gay nature" had been cured. His "gender" didn't change he stopped cross dressing. I would prefer him to be true to who he is gay or straight |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by iamleumas: 6:27pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
KingMicky3286: Yes, what niche exactly? |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by TerrorSquad(m): 6:47pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
motun2017: Come and deliver me... |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 7:01pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: I see you caught the fever. The White Man is Always Right Syndrome. Till the time of crossing when the truth cannot lie! |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 8:52pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka:So having a pet means harming the pet? How would you throw away the common aspect of affinity/orientation because it is common to the three examples.Have you heard of animal right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights In western countries you can't do some things legally with animals the way we do here in Africa. Because, consent is irrelevant with animals except in the case of cruelty.Go and tell the animal right activists that consent is irrelevant with animals. A pedophile is one not because he had sex with a minor but because he has a sexual attraction/orientation towards children.Someone that has sexual attraction with a minor are mostly having psychological problem, while it is a legal practice in some society. Raping a minor is a criminal act. Can you arrest any random person for pedophilic act? No, you need evidence. Children don't know anything about sex, taking advantage of them or sleeping with them is pedophilic, it is an abuse. Some scientists in evidence of familial transmittability suggest genetic might also be a cause of pedophilia but no certain proof yet. Same with a homosexual.Homosexuals are two adults having affair, how is that hurting anyone? Rape is the only harm here. Is it not possible that a Virgin be Heterosexual?What has this got to do with the discussion 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 9:01pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
LightandDarkness:Many scientists are now consider it genetic. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 9:44pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
shadeyinka: The only "fever" I have is the objective observation and unbiased research and statistics are *most times right. It has nothing to do with subconscious or conscious belief in white supremacy, you're going to have to try harder. tintingz: Many? I doubt it. Last I heard sexuality can be a product of many factors including genetics such as environment, psychology, biology even hormonal exposure in utero has been linked to adult sexuality. Rather than a single basis for sexuality e.g solely genetic or solely psychological, adult and childhood sexuality is believed to be a product of several factors such that to say definitively why a person is straight or gay would be almost impossible. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 9:48pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
LightandDarkness:You have no point here. Are there no scientific research or experiment that shows there is gay gene? Yes or no? |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 9:54pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
tintingz: You said it was genetic, I said while genetics could be a factor there is no conclusive evidence it is the sole basis for sexuality either homosexual or heterosexual. Your question should be is there good research that has successfully proven a particular gene or allele of a gene determines sexuality and the answer would be no, if you have a research paper that shows this I would be happy to read it. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 10:06pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
LightandDarkness:@ bolded case close. Can we rule it out it is not genetic or has biological foundation? |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 10:09pm On Aug 22, 2017 |
tintingz: You're asking the wrong question, while genetics could be a factor it has not been proven to or shown to be the sole determinant of sexuality. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 2:08pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Every research starts with a bias! Sometimes, a minority report (not from the big names) the result from scientific research are rejected for over a hundred years until (a trusted name) verifies the result. For now, scientific results are biased against ANY non physical report..that is a big bias! Your second point, I agree with. Just like everything is not purely spiritual. If as a baby, I was raised as a girl, and treated as one, I will most likely be effeminate. Your Laboratory is Purely Physical and it excludes the Spiritual! I have the Privilege of having both Physical and Spiritual Laboratories. Hence, your conclusions are limited. 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 2:19pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Please show me the methodologies for your spiritual lab |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 2:52pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
tintingz: 1. Some cultures in South America permits a man to have sex with Donkeys. The donkeys are never harmed in any way. Except you can prove that the donkeys are harmed. Isn't this Zoophilic? Animals may not be harmed in a zoophilic relationship. So the point of harming the animals are invalid. Have you not heard of Human Females having sex with Gorillas and Dogs? In this case, who is being harmed? Your argument about harming is NOT valid. 2. Your second point was about consent! Consent is only relevant when the object has the intellectual maturity to CHOSE based on understanding. And that is where the agument of consent is not possible with a human minor. Do you believe the argument of consent violation is possible with animals? If not,Your argument about consent is NOT valid. Everything about sexual orientation reduces purely to sexual preference. Some scientists in evidence of familial transmittability suggest genetic might also be a cause of pedophilia but no certain proof yet.Pls, truthfully answer this: Let's assume the above quote of yours was finally VALIDATED by the scientific community, would you accept the result and abide by its consequences? 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 3:02pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Experience! |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 3:04pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Experience! The mode is extremely different from that of the Physical Lab. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 3:04pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: Experience! The mode is extremely different from that of the Physical Lab. The rules are different. Very different 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 3:31pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Okay so completely anecdotal? |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 3:53pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: That is too hard a statement! If I told you my dream, Have I lied? Is my dream story unreliable? Is my dream story unscientific? A DREAM is not PHYSICAL! The Frame of reference are not the same. The same rules do NOT apply If you have NEVER experienced a dream, how would you understand when a person tells you his dream? We have all dreamt before, so we understand that a Dream isn't Physical (you can even call it imaginations) but you wouldn't use the physical to judge a dream (that would be senseless isn't it?) A Dream is subjective just like Spiritual Experiences are subjective. But being subjective isn't a prove of anecdotal conjecture. Its just in another frame which isn't Physical. Like the laws of Quantum Physics break down at the Classical Scale. It doesn't make the quantum laws invalid, NO! To understand quantum Physics, you have to think out of the Classical Box. It is impossible to understand quantum physics when you are locked in the classical. You are locked in the Physical, so it is understandable that the Spiritual CANNOT make sense to you |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 5:09pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka:That is south america culture and it is what animal right are against because animals dont have intellect level like humans doesn't mean humans should take advantages of them, that is what they(animal rights activist) are against. If a human female is having sex with gorillas, dogs, she is also abusing the animals,sexual abuse is not about the male folks doing the act. In some culture and religion like Jainism, Taoism, Buddhism, Animism etc are against any form of abuse on animals. 2.Again because animals dont have intellect level like humans doesn't mean humans should take advantage of them. An act of sexual act on animals is like taking advantage of the animal, animal rights is against it. Pls, truthfully answer this:I will accept the result since it has been proven with evidence, why should i reject what has been proven? but for the consequences i will not accept it, it is an abuse, there is reason we have empathy. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by Nobody: 5:16pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka: Okay sure |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 7:29pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
LightandDarkness:Very sure. Just like the example I posted earlier. It takes one who had had a dream experience to understand that physical rules do not hold. It take someone with a knowledge of Quantum physics to know that Classical physics breaks down at some points with answers only understood by those interned in quantum physics. Its impossible to understand QP when locked in CP. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 7:40pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
tintingz: I can see that your normal reasoning is beclouded, the last question was a test. So if it becomes scientifically acceptable to practice incest, you will shamelessly proceed to desecrate your heritage. Obstinate, Unreasonable and Unthinking course of choice you have made. It makes intelligent conversation impossible. If a human female is having sex with gorillas, dogs, she is also abusing the animals,sexual abuse is not about the male folks doing the act. |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 8:40pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Scientifically incest or consanguinity relationship will produce a birth defects, genetic disorder child but we still find some society practising consanguinity relationship e.g the Arabs and in the records they are the highest in genetic disorder in the world. Some scientists said people can do consensual consanguinity relationship but they should NOT produce children from it, so logically it is better to avoid it. Science proof things and only accept things to be practice that is beneficial to humanity and some things that does not cause harm, if I find any thing of my culture or religion(I'm not a religious person tho) harmful I will reject it and go against it not with violence but with enlightenment to the people, some people are ignorant of what they practice they need to be enlightened to see the light. Obstinate, Unreasonable and Unthinking course of choice you have made. It makes intelligent conversation impossible.How do you reason? So if an adult female sleeps with a boy child? what do you call that? 1 Like |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by shadeyinka(m): 10:22pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
tintingz: I have terminated this conversation! |
Re: "Paraguayan Teenage Homosexual Transformed By T.B Joshua" (Photos) by tintingz(m): 10:53pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
shadeyinka:Lol, you must be joking. ![]() You're giving yourself winning trophy. ![]() 1 Like |
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