moseys2003:


i am suspecting UBA result will soon be out as price is up now

Nobody agreed to sell to me today @9.2
I was hoping the price will come down since tritri wanted to offlaod. I just rush transfer money this morning to Morgan hoping to get a good bargain.
If it opens higher tomorrow I might just look the way of fidelity or transcorp.

moseys2003:


i am suspecting UBA result will soon be out as price is up now

We are waiting.
That uptick might be a ripple effect from access Bank result.

rebekah2011:
Any price below 3 will be good. Caveat, heavily loaded on this stock at average cost of 3.02. Infact just the only stock in my portfolio.

Just d only stock...it not worth it..If it was AFRIPRUD..i would say congrats

Tritri:



Just d only stock...it not worth it..If it was AFRIPRUD..i would say congrats

What are your reasons?

UCAP will do its magic in Q4. Expecting the dividend income from the subsidiaries not to be less than 6b. Looking at 50k dividend for the full year.

Tritri:



Just d only stock...it not worth it..If it was AFRIPRUD..i would say congrats

leo1234:


What are your reasons?

rebekah2011:
UCAP will do its magic in Q4. Expecting the dividend income from the subsidiaries not to be less than 6b. Looking at 50k dividend for the full year.

Q2 not worth it. Also Ur buyin hopefully on q4? last year was for Ucap..this year is AFRIPRU...if afripru drop to 3 naira...I will sell my Ucap..I have few unit here for dividend only 0.35 k.

rebekah2011:
UCAP will do its magic in Q4. Expecting the dividend income from the subsidiaries not to be less than 6b. Looking at 50k dividend for the full year.

It is better you moderate your expectation on UCAP.
The possibility of the company paying a 50k dividend at full year is very slim.
Profits were boosted last year as a result of the sale of one of the subsidiaries which is a one off thing.
Putting all your money in one stock when you are not the owner of the company is not the best way to manage investment risk. My humble submission!

fxuser:


Sup bro !
U Must share those notes ohh!
Yours truly , its about process.
Money will ff good process

...lol!
Most of these things we already know them but implementation when the chips are down is the "wahala"

BullBearMkt:

...lol!
Most of these things we already know them but implementation when the chips are down is the "wahala"

Oga Bullbear

please help with NSE and UBA technicals and chart

wld appr8

thank you

BullBearMkt:

...lol!
Most of these things we already know them but implementation when the chips are down is the "wahala"

true that..
our discipline to process must continue to progress
(even more pertinent wen in cryptos )

pluto09:


It is better you moderate your expectation on UCAP.
The possibility of the company paying a 50k dividend at full year is very slim.
Profits were boosted last year as a result of the sale of one of the subsidiaries which is a one off thing.
Putting all your money in one stock when you are not the owner of the company is not the best way to manage investment risk. My humble submission!

I agree with pluto09 as regards ucap paying a 50k dividend. The possibility is slim. They will most likely pay maybe 35k as dividend. my opinion though

currentprice:




look lik it 35.87kobo - 2017

http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/FinancialStatementFull_C%20I%20LEASING%20PLC._2017-07-28.pdf

thanks

leo1234:


25.87 kobo -2017
8.99 kobo -2016

thanks

My view on Nigeria equity market,I observed the following
Most of the derivative equities are bearish
An example of derivative equity is AX Mansard
The parent company was GT bank
Same GT bank gave birth to ARM
The collapsed in the share price of Mansard Is telling on the unintelligent investors that invested in ARM mutual funds
The implication of this is that there is an established conspiracy between ARM and Ax mansard
In few weeks, the share price of mansard will crash to 0.85k, the mutual funds product of ARM will loose at least 15% in value as they plan to pay a meagre dividend of 0.01%
The lesson here is to avoid derivatives of derivatives shared.They cannot offer you a capital gain nor guarantee you a cash inflow .
Derivative shares are for myopic investors why mutual funds are for the financially unintelligent.
The good shares offer both capital gain and cash inflow for investors.
Good example....dangote cement,GT bank, international brewery,okomu, presco, etc
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Nairaruky:
My view on Nigeria equity market,I observed the following
Same GT bank gave birth to ARM
The collapsed in the share price of Mansard Is telling on the unintelligent investors that invested in ARM mutual funds
The implication of this is that there is an established conspiracy between ARM and Ax mansard
Derivative shares are for myopic investors why mutual funds are for the financially unintelligent.
The good shares offer both capital gain and cash inflow for investors
Shallom

I beg to disagree with you on above assertions!

Though I'm not a technically inclined person in areas like this but based on my layman's understanding, GT does not gave birth to ARM, its an independent company operating solely on its own, though have support of gtb as their main banker (think this is largely based on few of their directors being a retiree of gtb; they also have support from other banks as well).

Now I put it to you that you come up with empirical prove that there's a correlation/ consipracy between ARM and AXA Mansard.

Also, on what premise do you refer to people who invested in ARM mutual fund as unintelligent? That you dont believe in something does not make others with contrary opinion to yours 'unintelligent', you stick with what works for you best and let others do same.

Mutual fund is good, reliable and consistent (in terms of quarterly dividend payment) for those of us that believed in it and sees it as alternative form of investment.

You can device a better and convincing means of selling your e-book, such as getting facts and being objective in your analysis.

Disclamer: Not a staff or relation of anyone in ARM, I'm just an investor.

Mutual fund is a no no for me. Mutual funds are not for the smart and informed investors. The fund managers running the mutual funds will earn their pay whether the fund makes money or not.

I remember in 2010 when FBN Securities compelled all their retail investors with portfolios of N5 million and below to convert their portfolios to FBN Heritage Fund or the customers should transfer their accounts to others stockbrokers. I personally assisted over 40 of their clients to transfer their accounts to my stockbrokers

Pa Emma, things are changing and investors are becoming wiser by the day. We cant continue to live in the oldies. The days of secrecy are fast eroding away. Also note that the choice of manager matters most here.

Notwithstanding, individuals have a choice to go with or do what he/she seems right based on reasons best known to him/her without anyone actually castigating him/her.

I actually wanted to reply on your similar mail sometimes ago on mutual fund but wasnt chanced around that time.

I

vivie01:
Pa Emma, things are changing and investors are becoming wiser by the day. We cant continue to live in the oldies. The days of secrecy are fast eroding away. Also note that the choice of manager matters most here.

Notwithstanding, individuals have a choice to go with or do what he/she seems right based on reasons best known to him/her without anyone actually castigating him/her.

I actually wanted to reply on your similar mail sometimes ago on mutual fund but wasnt chanced around that time.

People who don't have the knowledge or time to research companies to invest in are advised to buy mutual funds, but people with the knowledge, experience, time and temperament are better off investing themselves.

Their are classes of investors and I think and I know that mutual fund investors are at the bottom of the pyramid.

ARM, Axa Mansard and Investment One have things in common with GTB and her management.

Axa Mansard and Investment One were GTB subsidiaries before CBN policy which led to management buy out.
DEJI Aliu left GTB to establish ARM.

Nairaruky:


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The fund managers in Nigeria are agents of conspiracy.
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The real time online trade is doing great towards that.

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Okay! Pa Emma, that someone left gtb to establish ARM automatically makes his company a subsidiary of gtb? Dont understand!

My initial question borders on correlation between ARM and AXA mansard which as far as Im concerned was not answered at all in your post.

Like I said earlier, mutual fund is a good alternative investment in addition to other ones and its stress free.

When I refer to mutual fund here, its mostly with money market fund in my mind; and please know that dividends are being paid quarterly. Might not be too much but it gives rest of mind as its not everybody that has the mind of keeping his/her eggs in one basket.

Stocks investment carries its own high risks too.

In all, let individuals stick to what works best for him or her, money must be made.

The first thing to understand when going into stocks is having the required knowledge, in depth research and understanding how the market works.
This is hardwork. Not having this knowledge and understanding is the biggest risk in stock investment and trading. if not careful, you stand the risk of loosing everything.
2007/2008, some of us invested in moribund companies without the required knowledge and understanding.
furthermore, you can't just rely on the judgement of brokers cos it is not usually accurate.

Yes, I am cautious too. But I have also looked into the trend of the company in the few years. The income from the subsidiaries for the year is estimated to reach 6b. The NSE has been very bullish this year and the subsidiaries are projected to achieve more than the 3b they returned last year. If didnt work as planned, I will take it as a lesson. Very bullish about the stock.

pluto09:


It is better you moderate your expectation on UCAP.
The possibility of the company paying a 50k dividend at full year is very slim.
Profits were boosted last year as a result of the sale of one of the subsidiaries which is a one off thing.
Putting all your money in one stock when you are not the owner of the company is not the best way to manage investment risk. My humble submission!

I agree that Q2 was not that very good but activities in the market has really favoured the company and its subsidiaries.

Tritri:






Q2 not worth it. Also Ur buyin hopefully on q4? last year was for Ucap..this year is AFRIPRU...if afripru drop to 3 naira...I will sell my Ucap..I have few unit here for dividend only 0.35 k.

vivie01:
Okay! Pa Emma, that someone left gtb to establish ARM automatically makes his company a subsidiary of gtb? Dont understand!

My initial question borders on correlation between ARM and AXA mansard which as far as Im concerned was not answered at all in your post.

Like I said earlier, mutual fund is a good alternative investment in addition to other ones and its stress free.

When I refer to mutual fund here, its mostly with money market fund in my mind; and please know that dividends are being paid quarterly. Might not be too much but it gives rest of mind as its not everybody that has the mind of keeping his/her eggs in one basket.

Stocks investment carries its own high risks too.

In all, let individuals stick to what works best for him or her, money must be made.

You are right. Mutual funds are flexible these days. A friend of mine has funds in the Money market funds of FBNcapital that runs more like FD or TB with a yield of more than 17% per annum.

vivie01:
Okay! Pa Emma, that someone left gtb to establish ARM automatically makes his company a subsidiary of gtb? Dont understand!

My initial question borders on correlation between ARM and AXA mansard which as far as Im concerned was not answered at all in your post.

Like I said earlier, mutual fund is a good alternative investment in addition to other ones and its stress free.

When I refer to mutual fund here, its mostly with money market fund in my mind; and please know that dividends are being paid quarterly. Might not be too much but it gives rest of mind as its not everybody that has the mind of keeping his/her eggs in one basket.

Stocks investment carries its own high risks too.

In all, let individuals stick to what works best for him or her, money must be made.

What you do not understand in d game of conspiracy against the masse by d rich is that the issue of subsidiary is buried.What they do now is called derivatives of derivatives that will make shares worthless.
Arm will invest your money in mansard at d highest bid
(U loose money) They will sell for you at the lowest offer.
The shares of arm in mansard is far differ from what u are seeing in the game of conspiracy.
The financial predators are after your money,if you escape them at mutual funds, they are waiting for you at the securities arm, if u dodge dm at this level..a doom is already planted at the pension funds.( dy are allowed to invest your money in shares, tb,promissory note, commercial paper, banker acceptance note) etc
Same conspiracy is being played at stanbic IBTC but with a slight compassion for investors ,dz is contrary to arm that is known for heartlessness.
You do not need to be a prophet to see that fbn will soon ask the govt of Nigeria for a bail out. By then the share value will collapse to N2.00
While by 2020 Arm will float an investment or a deposit bank...still the pattern of derivatives.
They are following the pathway of leman brother, AIG etc
In all dz scenario,the investors have no profit
Money created for the rich from the labour of the poor.
Money only exist in imagination.
We must read books and free our friends and foe from financial slavery.
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sky2891:

You are right. Mutual funds are flexible these days. A friend of mine has funds in the Money market funds of FBNcapital that runs more like FD or TB with a yield of more than 17% per annum.

Play the money market yourself and you will get a true yield of about 22%.

@ Vivie01… I never said ARM was a subsidiary of GTB. Axa Mansard and Investment One financial services Ltd were subsidiaries of GTB.

DEJI Aliu was a former management staff of GTB. At a time I learnt GTB had private equity in the firm, the way Stanbic IBTC invested in some companies

emmanuelewumi:


Play the money market yourself and you will get a true yield of about 22%.

Please Pa Wumi,

Can you help us further on how to do this and achieve the 22% yield. This could be eyes opener.

Regards

emmanuelewumi:


Play the money market yourself and you will get a true yield of about 22%.

Ofcourse, but the flexibility which FBNcapital offers seems right for a flexible investor. e.g withdrawing your funds when opportunity calls without any charge on your interest and having opportunity to invest additional amount at will etc. I guess people have reasons for the investment patterns they choose.