fratermathy:


Yeah. But what is recognised in Delta's constitution is Ika while Igbo is used to represent the Anioshimili people.

the same way okpe is a tribe,huh?
Ants cant determine the boundary of elephants,
the whole of delta north aka anioma are part and parcel of the Igbo Nation.
Deal with the bitter truth

fratermathy:


Yeah. He won and may win again because JAMES ONANEFE IBORI LIKE (an Urhobo man) WANTS HIM TO.

whatever, a corrupt shameless criminal is a hero among you people, worshipped like a small god.
Shame,
okowa victory in 2019 is signed and sealed

Amarabae:
the same way okpe is a tribe,huh?
Ants cant determine the boundary of elephants,
the whole of delta north aka anioma are part and parcel of the Igbo Nation.
Deal with the bitter truth

You are so pained. This is a constitutional issue. Okpe is not recognised as a separate ethnic group from Urhobo but Ukwuani and Ika are recognised as distinct ethnicities.

If the people say they are Igbo, that is their business. This is not my opinion (as far as I am concerned all of them are Igbo) but the CONSTITUTION gives them distinct identities as much as Isoko is given a distinct one from Urhobo.

Amarabae:
whatever, a corrupt shameless criminal is a hero among you people, worshipped like a small god.
Shame,
okowa victory in 2019 is signed and sealed

Of course it is. After all, Ibori is the ruler of the Okowa's political family. Urhobos still control the legislature and judiciary. Even in the so called Okowa's government, Urhobos hold all the key positions, from SSG, through finance commissioner, down to permanent secretaries and personal assistants.


Okowa is only governor because Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris WANT it in order to fulfill all righteousness and give Aniomas a sense of belonging. So don't act like Okowa's election was won with population or charisma or anything free and fair. He is there because Ibori and the core Deltan ruling class WANT HIM THERE. Deal with it.

fratermathy:


You are so pained. This is a constitutional issue. Okpe is not recognised as a separate ethnic group from Urhobo but Ukwuani and Ika are recognised as distinct ethnicities.

If the people say they are Igbo, that is their business. This is not my opinion (as far as I am concerned all of them are Igbo) but the CONSTITUTION gives them distinct identities as much as Isoko is given a distinct one from Urhobo.

the pained one here is you.
I can bet with my life that the whole of delta north can never vote No incase of a biafran referendum,deep inside you,you know that.
Anioma remains connected to their kith and kin east of the niger.
When Anioma state comes, you can wrap suya with the dumb constitution,
go and sit down biko

Amarabae:
the pained one here is you.
I can bet with my life that the whole of delta north can never vote No incase of a biafran referendum,deep inside you,you know that.
Anioma remains connected to their kith and kin east of the niger.
When Anioma state comes, you can wrap suya with the dumb constitution,
go and sit down biko

And why would I care if Anioma joins Biafra or get their own state? It's even better for us the core Deltans who have been robbed off many things.

So I wonder why you are killing yourself. Take everyone in Delta North down to Obiaruku if you want and if they want too but limit your boundaries to your Igboid region.

fratermathy:


Of course it is. After all, Ibori is the ruler of the Okowa's political family. Urhobos still control the legislature and judiciary. Even in the so called Okowa's government, Urhobos hold all the key positions, from SSG, through finance commissioner, down to permanent secretaries and personal assistants.


Okowa is only governor because Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris WANT it in order to fulfill all righteousness and give Aniomas a sense of belonging. So don't act like Okowa's election was won with population or charisma or anything free and fair. He is there because Ibori and the core Deltan ruling class WANT HIM THERE. Deal with it.

The core deltans?
What a terminology,
so the aniomas are not core deltans?
And what have you achieved with your coreness in nigeria?
Aniomas are holding a ministerial and cbn position in nigeria, tell me the last time we had an urhobo minister in nigeria? Mr coreness with only one senator and found in just one state,
go and get resource control with your coreness

fratermathy:


And why would I care if Anioma joins Biafra or get their own state? It's even better for us the core Deltans who have been robbed off many things.

So I wonder why you are killing yourself. Take everyone in Delta North down to Obiaruku if you want and if they want too but limit your boundaries to your Igboid region.

there is nothing like igboid, igbo is Igbo and yes Urhobos are not biafrans

Amarabae:
the same way okpe is a tribe,huh?
Ants cant determine the boundary of elephants,
the whole of delta north aka anioma are part and parcel of the Igbo Nation.
Deal with the bitter truth

madam why not stick with your igbo politics and leave Delta out of ur argument, you just one spoil show for anioma.

as for the okpe claim, urhobo don't do attache by force, isoko speaks a version of urhobo language, bear our names, have same traditions with us but you won't see urhobo killing themselves because isoko said they ain't urhobo, I think you need to learn a lot from the great urhobo nation.

Okpe still remain part and parcel of urhobo, if they wish to deny their urhoboness then no urhobo son or daughter will bully them like you bully others.

I hope you learn from us one day.

cheers.

Amarabae:
The core deltans?
What a terminology,
so the aniomas are not core deltans?
And what have you achieved with your coreness in nigeria?
Aniomas are holding a ministerial and cbn position in nigeria, tell me the last time we had an urhobo minister in nigeria? Mr coreness with only one senator and found in just one state,
go and get resource control with your coreness

Stephen Oru was a minister till 2015. Google doesn't bite.

Emefiele was appointed by GEJ, also an Ijaw man from the core Delta.

And by core Delta, I mean those in the geographical Niger Delta, not political Niger Delta.

The Minister for Petroleum was employed STRICTLY ON MERIT, not because he is from Delta State. In fact, Deltans had no role to play in nominating Kachikwu.

Like Urhobo, Anioma has only one Senator too. Aniomas seem to be at an advantage now because Urhobos are not like you guys that never allow other ethnicities to shine (eg Rivers State).

And yes, we'd get our resource control, our own state and restructuring of Nigeria. If you don't like, leave us be and go tow your Biafran path.

Amarabae:
The core deltans?
What a terminology,
so the aniomas are not core deltans?
And what have you achieved with your coreness in nigeria?
Aniomas are holding a ministerial and cbn position in nigeria, tell me the last time we had an urhobo minister in nigeria? Mr coreness with only one senator and found in just one state,
go and get resource control with your coreness

Let me list what we have achieved with their coreness.

1. PTI (Only petroleum institution in West Africa)

2. FUPRE (Best petroleum university In WEST AFRICA)

3 Refinery

4. All new industries are located in urhobo town

5. 80% of urban areas in Delta state are in urhobo land, Meaning 8 out of every 10 towns in Delta is located in Urhobo land.

6. Anything concerning Delta state, na urhobo get am

Who ministerial position help?

don't start what you can't finish, Anybody from Delta can attest to this .

Efewestern:


Let me list what we have achieved with their coreness.

1. PTI (Only petroleum institution in West Africa)

2. FUPRE (Best petroleum university In WEST AFRICA)

3 Refinery

4. All new industries are located in urhobo town

5. 80% of urban areas in Delta state are in urhobo land, Meaning 8 out of every 10 towns in Delta is located in Urhobo land.

6. Anything concerning Delta state, na urhobo get am

Who ministerial position help?

don't start what you can't finish, Anybody from Delta can attest to this .

Thank you Oniovo. Some of these guys will just stay in Oyigbo or Abakaliki and think they know everything about Delta State.

Efewestern:


madam why not stick with your igbo politics and leave Delta out of ur argument, you just one spoil show for anioma.

as for the okpe claim, urhobo don't do attache by force, isoko speaks a version of urhobo language, bear our names, have same traditions with us but you won't see urhobo killing themselves because isoko said they ain't urhobo, I think you need to learn a lot from the great urhobo nation.

Okpe still remain part and parcel of urhobo, if they wish to deny their urhoboness then no urhobo son or daughter will bully them like you bully others.

I hope you learn from us one day.

cheers.

Anioma remains part and parcel of the Igbo nation,
is the truth hard to digest in your area?
Maybe some confused elements ith identity crisis have been deceiving you people but Anioma leaders know their kith and kin,
i have nothing against urhobos but tell fatermathy to mind his business,
urhobos are not biafrans,thats settled

Amarabae:
Anioma remains part and parcel of the Igbo nation,
is the truth hard to digest in your area?
Maybe some confused elements ith identity crisis have been deceiving you people but Anioma leaders know their kith and kin,
i have nothing against urhobos but tell fatermathy to mind his business,
urhobos are not biafrans,thats settled

Has anyone on this thread disputed the fact that Aniomas are Igbo?

Please do show us where so that we'd know where your menopausal rants are coming from.

That they are recognised as distinct doesn't imply that they are or they are not Igbos. Just acknowledge their constitutional distinctiveness.

Besides, tell your nwannes to stop looking for trouble with threads like this.

Efewestern:


Let me list what we have achieved with their coreness.

1. PTI (Only petroleum institution in West Africa)

2. FUPRE (Best petroleum university In WEST AFRICA)

3 Refinery

4. All new industries are located in urhobo town

5. 80% of urban areas in Delta state are in urhobo land, Meaning 8 out of every 10 towns in Delta is located in Urhobo land.

6. Anything concerning Delta state, na urhobo get am

Who ministerial position help?

don't start what you can't finish, Anybody from Delta can attest to this .

is that all?
This is a mediocre achievement listing.
Btw everybody should know their boundary and mind their business,

Amarabae:
Anioma remains part and parcel of the Igbo nation,
is the truth hard to digest in your area?
Maybe some confused elements ith identity crisis have been deceiving you people but Anioma leaders know their kith and kin,
i have nothing against urhobos but tell fatermathy to mind his business,
urhobos are not biafrans,thats settled

I have no problem with who anioma says they are, in fact I have corrected most people in this forum who claim anioma are not related to igbo, Sanchez can attest to that.

was just trying to correct most of your post regarding who deltans are, and I use isoko and urhobo as a good example.

am pro urhobo, so I defend urhobo online and offline, as for fratermathy don't blame him, most anioma people don't claim to be igbo, he was probably carried away by that.

fratermathy anioma are igbo, nothing concern you . .

Amarabae:
is that all?
This is a mediocre achievement listing.
Btw everybody should know their boundary and mind their business,

Mediocre you say but a while ago you were the one that requested for them. You believed that we have nothing when it is obvious that what we have in our small land in Delta rivals or even outshines what you have in the entire Igboland.
Show us the cognates of these few achievements we have as minorities and where they are in Igboland!

fratermathy:


Has anyone on this thread disputed the fact that Aniomas are Igbo?

Please do show us where so that we'd know where your menopausal rants are coming from.

That they are recognised as distinct doesn't imply that they are or they are not Igbos. Just acknowledge their constitutional distinctiveness.

Besides, tell your nwannes to stop looking for trouble with threads like this.

my issue with you is that you will leave ipob to start insulting igbos,
is ohanaeze ndigbo the agitators?
Igbos and urhobos are not and can never be mates,
the gap is too much,
let the respect be mutual

Amarabae:
is that all?
This is a mediocre achievement listing.
Btw everybody should know their boundary and mind their business,

Okay can you list what your state has?

Let's compare urhobo development to your entire state, let's start by saying how many rural and urban areas are in your state.

fratermathy please be the judge. am waiting.

please only your state.

fratermathy:


Mediocre you say but a while ago you were the one that requested for them. You believed that we have nothing when it is obvious that what we have in our small land in Delta rivals or even outshines what you have in the entire Igboland.
Show us the cognates of these few achievements we have as minorities and where they are in Igboland!

Nnewi alone has an international automobile manufacturina industry and Nnewi alone has more billionares than the whole urhobos/isoko

Efewestern:


I have no problem with who anioma says they are, in fact I have corrected most people in this forum who claim anioma are not related to igbo, Sanchez can attest to that.

was just trying to correct most of your post regarding who deltans are, and I use isoko and urhobo as a good example.

am pro urhobo, so I defend urhobo online and offline, as for fratermathy don't blame him, most anioma people don't claim to be igbo, he was probably carried away by that.

fratermathy anioma are igbo, nothing concern you . .

Me wey dey even call them Delta Igbo. I have many Anioma friends from DELSU then and even now, my GF is Anioma. Even when they insist that they are not Igbo, I educate them of their real status even though they constitutionally have the right to remain distinct from Igbo.

I was only trying to prove a point to the online oversabis, a point they have failed to even get due to their knack for wahalarism.

Amarabae:
Nnewi alone has an international automobile manufacturina industry and Nnewi alone has more billionares than the whole urhobos/isoko

I asked for cognates. Where did you see an automobile "ASSEMBLY PLANT" (take note) in Efewestern's list?

Show us your refineries, universities of petroleum, etc.

Efewestern:


I have no problem with who anioma says they are, in fact I have corrected most people in this forum who claim anioma are not related to igbo, Sanchez can attest to that.

was just trying to correct most of your post regarding who deltans are, and I use isoko and urhobo as a good example.

am pro urhobo, so I defend urhobo online and offline, as for fratermathy don't blame him, most anioma people don't claim to be igbo, he was probably carried away by that.

fratermathy anioma are igbo, nothing concern you . .

I have no issue with you,you sound matured,
but i ant to deal with the igbophobics traits in that fatermathy,

Amarabae:
my issue with you is that you will leave ipob to start insulting igbos,
is ohanaeze ndigbo the agitators?
Igbos and urhobos are not and can never be mates,
the gap is too much,
let the respect be mutual

We can never be mates. See arrogance. When an ethnicity ascribes too much arrogance to itself, it becomes a laughing stock.

So who are you now mates with? Hausas? The ones you can't even stage a fight with and win. Yorubas? The ones you blame for all your problems in life. Ijaws? The ones your nwannes want to die for even when they are not wanted?


There is nothing Igbos have, other than population, than Urhobos do not have in abundance. Don't ascribe too much importance to yourself. Be humble!

fratermathy:


I asked for cognates. Where did you see an automobile "ASSEMBLY PLANT" (take note) in Efewestern's list?

Show us your refineries, universities of petroleum, etc.

go and open ur own assembly part,let us see,
innoson is a full manufacturing firm, deal with the painment,
and whats special about having a university of petroleum?
We have internationally recognised universities in Igboland,
and btw we have a multi gas powerplant in my area
and btw has ur cognates removed the poverty in your area?

Amarabae:
I have no issue with you,you sound matured,
but i ant to deal with the igbophobics traits in that fatermathy,

And you are not Urhobophobic?

It's easy to delude yourself into the belief that you are absolved from whatever crime you accuse me of.

I don't delude myself into such beliefs. You are as guilty, if not more so, of what you accuse me of.

Amarabae:
go and open ur own assembly part,let us see,
innoson is a full manufacturing firm, deal with the painment,
and whats special about having a university of petroleum?
We have internationally recognised universities in Igboland,
and btw we have a multi gas powerplant in my area
and btw has ur cognates removed the poverty in your area?

You are deflecting the subject matter. Anybody can open an assembly plant given the right resources but that is not even the issue.

You wanted to measure d*cks with Urhobo and we gave you the opportunity to match what we have achieved as core Deltans with what you have (since you said we haven't achieved anything). Instead of focusing on the said achievements, you went to bring in an assembly plant.

Oya I match that with Delta Steel Complex, Aladja. We produce steel, you assemble cars (also made from steel). We also produce glass and electricity (both at Ughelli).

Move on now to the next cognates.


And yes, it has reduced poverty so much. Urhobos are not the ones going around complaining of marginalising and unemployment. Or are we?

fratermathy:


We can never be mates. See arrogance. When an ethnicity ascribes too much arrogance to itself, it becomes a laughing stock.

So who are you now mates with? Hausas? The ones you can't even stage a fight with and win. Yorubas? The ones you blame for all your problems in life. Ijaws? The ones your nwannes want to die for even when they are not wanted?


There is nothing Igbos have, other than population, than Urhobos do not have in abundance. Don't ascribe too much importance to yourself. Be humble!

Igboland has more crudeoil than urhoboland,do you want the records now?
From ukwa to oyigbo,ndoni,egbema,etche,omuma, oguta, ogbaru,etc
apart from that,we have far more investment,business empires, international diplomats, intellectuals etc that you people can dream of,
i repeat again,we are not mates, the gap is too much

As a Biafran supporter from the nextdoor state of Anambra, I have an interest in Delta state due to the Igbo elements indigenous to the state.

In terms of Urhobos, Itsekiris, Ijaws,Isoko and other tribes who are indigenous to Delta state, I think that every tribe had better start making long term plans because this so called Delta state will one day cease to exist.

It doesnt matter which happens first, restructuring or secession, Delta state will be gone in the future.

In the case of restructuring, Anioma is leaving with its Igbo kith and kin into the Igbo Region

In the case of secession, I have no doubt that Anioma will vote massively in a referendum to leave with Biafra

So some people can make noise all they want but all the tribes in Delta state had better start preparing for the future because the Igbo nation will be taking Anioma with them one way or the other.

fratermathy:


You are deflecting the subject matter. Anybody can open an assembly plant given the right resources but that is not even the issue.

You wanted to measure d*cks with Urhobo and we gave you the opportunity to match what we have achieved as core Deltans with what you have (since you said we haven't achieved anything). Instead of focusing on the said achievements, you went to bring in an assembly plant.

Oya I match that with Delta Steel Complex, Aladja. We produce steel, you assemble cars (also made from steel). We also produce glass and electricity (both at Ughelli).

Move on now to the next cognates.


And yes, it has reduced poverty so much. Urhobos are not the ones going around complaining of marginalising and unemployment. Or are we?

you ended up saying nothing,
there is nigercem in ebonyi,now owned by ebonyi govt,
there is a glass and textile industry in Aba,
and more,
so stay on the topic,innoson is even manufcturing spare parts for nigeria airforce

fratermathy:


You are deflecting the subject matter. Anybody can open an assembly plant given the right resources but that is not even the issue.

You wanted to measure d*cks with Urhobo and we gave you the opportunity to match what we have achieved as core Deltans with what you have (since you said we haven't achieved anything). Instead of focusing on the said achievements, you went to bring in an assembly plant.

Oya I match that with Delta Steel Complex, Aladja. We produce steel, you assemble cars (also made from steel). We also produce glass and electricity (both at Ughelli).

Move on now to the next cognates.


And yes, it has reduced poverty so much. Urhobos are not the ones going around complaining of marginalising and unemployment. Or are we?

oniovo mudia taye na

never release those achievement make she no run.. let's start with the list I made..

amara where ar thou.

Amarabae:
Igboland has more crudeoil than urhoboland,do you want the records now?
From ukwa to oyigbo,ndoni,egbema,etche,omuma, oguta, ogbaru,etc
apart from that,we have far more investment,business empires, international diplomats, intellectuals etc that you people can dream of,
i repeat again,we are not mates, the gap is too much

you can as well tell us how many barrel igbo land produce.

I will give you a screenshot of NNPC reports about urhobo oil production.

please note I will add isoko to it you add Rivers igboid group.