IbnSultaan:
You guys should chill especially the Nigerian. You don't have to continue on these path that always produce negative result.

Nigeria is growing and that's Good but others have optain such capabilities prior to us, as such have expertise we don't.
Its like comparing Chinese military hardwares with that of US, the may fly sheath jets but its common knowledge that the Chinese are growing in such capabilities & the American fighter will have better engine n co

jakeporeshenko:

Don’t you guys already make something that looks prett much like this but without a ramp and RWS

Henry240:


Yes Sir, anything for love of country.

I had to go the extra mile to ask because the naivety, ignorance of some of the comments on the ground clearance of the Ara had become nauseating.

I don't usually respond to those comments, i find that it makes no sense giving credibility to one's ignorance.

The response from Proforce is very clear, i am also immensely thankful to the team.

jteku:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/08/pentagon-notifies-u-s-congress-sale-12-super-tucano-29-bombs-rockets-worth-593-million-nigeria/

jakeporeshenko:

I completely agree with you, generally we agreed on this thread to stop making comparisons and proud statements that include “best in Africa”. We don’t like when the SA guys do it so we shouldn’t do it either.

Patented:
Hallelujah!!! the ARA looks Good Yeah but its not been Battle tested so lets chill. I remember the praise singing about the IGIRIGI but.................... give the vehicle tym before we start rating.

Patented:
Hallelujah!!! the ARA looks Good Yeah but its not been Battle tested so lets chill. I remember the praise singing about the IGIRIGI but.................... give the vehicle tym before we start rating.

ssaengine:


What did they say was wrong with Igirigi?

Henry240:
Not to claim i am sad by this unfortunate turn of event for the SA navy, as i'll be lying to myself. However in my opinion the SA model of purchasing defence equipment in Lump Sum is not sustainable and should be reviewed.

The 1999 arms deal that got the Gripens and Valours was funded entirely by bank loans, which are still being paid to this day. It doesn't seem economical to follow the same route with the purchase of OPVs. Instead adding an OPV and an IPV every 2 years should be the best way forward.

Well, the pages of Nairaland can now rest after 4 years of non-stop hammering of Project Biro.

Henry240:

Nothing wrong with the Igirigi.

ssaengine:


I wonder what you'll say when OPV is reinstated. And the request for IPV's, what did the article say? As already stated on Nairaland, funding for OPV's had already been shifted to 2018/2019 financial year. Not a single bolt had been purchased yet, and no company had started building anything. You are celebrating a non existant victory . OPV requirement is now gone, never to be seen again in a few months?

Also, I'm curious....which of the arms deal Gripens, submarines, Hawks or Frigates are still being paid for to this day? Kindly elaborate. Or again you made something up?

Henry240:


So the pipe-dream continues. I hope my kids won't be arguing with your kids over the start date of Project Biro right here in Nairaland? That would be a shame.

On the 1999 arms deal, i didn't make that up. It's been a while, but i'll search for the link and post it.

ssaengine:


Yes the pipe dream continues indeed. We'll wait and see.

ssaengine:


Okay that's what Henry says. I'll patiently wait for Patented's answer on the topic as well.

MiddleDimension:
SHAREDNigeria thanks US for sale of aircraft
The US $593m (£460m) sale of 12 Super Tucano aircraft to Nigeria has gone ahead, the Reuters news agency reports saying that the Pentagon has let Congress know.

Nigeria wants the aircraft, which can be used for surveillance and attack, to help in the fight against Islamist militant group Boko Haram.

Nigeria's vice-president has tweeted about the deal:


Report
The sale was delayed by the Obama administration after a catastrophic incident involving the Nigerian military.

About 90 people, mainly women and children, were killed in January when the Nigerian Air Force mistakenly bombed a camp in the country's north-east, which was hosting thousands of those who had fled Boko Haram.


US Air Force
Super Tucano A-29 aircraft can be used for both surveillance and attack

jakeporeshenko:

I completely agree with you, generally we agreed on this thread to stop making comparisons and proud statements that include “best in Africa”. We don’t like when the SA guys do it so we shouldn’t do it either.

LTGEN:
http://punchng.com/bharam-us-sells-n181bn-warplanes-weapons-to-nigeria/
For now it does appear the Sale is a go . Fingers crossed.

SupremeCourt:


Personally I dont join your guys in their unavoidable male ego boxing match. Observe, days after posting of ARA'e best new photos by Nigerians here, RSA guys largely disappeared for many days, no posting. Later appeared full force punching the ARA MRAP comments that they can find so called faults in. Nigerians never said its best technology in the world but one of the best and that is true because we posted official data and diagrams of ARA Tatra chassis here, European manufacturer claims one of the best engine and chassis: "TATRA has been manufacturing cars since 1897 and is the oldest automotive factory in Central Europe. The unique chassis concept has been continuously improved since 1923 – and to this day successfully imitated by no one." Anybody disputing those facts should kindly redirect their questions to Tatra head office in Europe. Also Nigerians said it will beat the best in sales in Africa's market based on available pricing facts, see PDF published by FMF on Nigerian budget for ARA, priced cheaper than competitors in the African market, what is wrong in predicting market sales if you are far cheaper? I don't see false claims by Nigerians on ARA except that you see it in the light of a type of claim an RSA guy would make.

Suddenly I read news here today from RSA guys that claim western standard technology going to buy simple eastern war boats from Russia for their westernized navy! I think the RSA guys are the ones who should cool down their claims of the best in weaponry. Just saying, not angry, not insulting. Thank you everybody.

Patented:
Hallelujah!!! the ARA looks Good Yeah but its not been Battle tested so lets chill. I remember the praise singing about the IGIRIGI but.................... give the vehicle tym before we start rating.