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Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:26pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: Is that now your focus? Well as a son of God I know what tithing is and what it is not. Is that why you drifted? |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 8:26pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:See? this is why i asked you your brand of Christianity or you have your own Bible. Well, here is Jehovah talking to his people who copied the practices of the Babylonians. Isaiah 47:11-15 Disaster will come upon you, and none of your magic can stop it. Ruin will come on you suddenly— ruin you never dreamed of! Keep all your magic spells and charms; you have used them since you were young. Perhaps they will be of some help to you; perhaps you can frighten your enemies. You are powerless in spite of the advice you get. Let your astrologers come forward and save you— those people who study the stars, who map out the zones of the heavens and tell you from month to month what is going to happen to you. “They will be like bits of straw, and a fire will burn them up! They will not even be able to save themselves— the flames will be too hot for them, not a cozy fire to warm themselves by. That is all the good they will do you— those astrologers you've consulted all your life. They all will leave you and go their own way, and none will be left to save you.” Sukkot, i didn't post this for you, i posted this for anyone who you'd decisive to believe that they can be Christians and astrologers at the same time. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:29pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:and in this your church how many verses do you read every sunday ? have you broken down all of the 22 chapters of the book of revelations ? can you decode the book of revelation ? what is the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns and 10 crowns upon its 10 horns ? what is the red dragon and the woman with the crown of 12 stars and the moon under her feet and clothed with the sun who was travailing and ready to give birth in the book of revelation chapter 12 ? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:30pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:am trying to tell you your pastor is a pi-mp and you guys are the hoe-s ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 8:31pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Pls sukkot stop deceiving the lazy. Here is what Jehovah says. Isaiah:47:10-15 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me. Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail. Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee. Go ahead tell me not to take this literary. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:32pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:see you dont understand the verse you posted. it is not speaking against the astrologers, it says even your astrologers will not be able to save you from what is coming. learn to comprehend the verse before posting it gurl isaiah 47 vs 13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 8:36pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
onyenze123:Lol. That's sound like New World Order to me. Enjoy your open mindedness. For surely there's an end, and your expectations shall not be cut off. What ever your expectations are, you shall have them, good or bad. You have made your choice, leave mine to me. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:36pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:analice please try to understand the verse before you post it. this is speaking about babylon and it is saying your astrologers will not be able to save you from what is coming upon you. its not speaking against the astrologers. if anything it is placing the astrologers on a high pedestal isaiah 47 vs 13 13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 8:43pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Oh Sukkot. Wow. This is not admonishment, this is the judgment of Yahweh against the disobedient Babylon, because of her satanic activities. Judgment on Babylon The Lord says, “Babylon, come down from your throne, and sit in the dust on the ground. You were once like a virgin, a city unconquered, but you are soft and delicate no longer! You are now a slave! 2 Turn the millstone! Grind the flour! Off with your veil! Strip off your fine clothes! Lift up your skirts to cross the streams! 3 People will see you naked; they will see you humbled and shamed. I will take vengeance, and no one will stop me.” 4 The holy God of Israel sets us free— his name is the Lord Almighty. 5 The Lord says to Babylon, “Sit in silence and darkness; no more will they call you the queen of nations! 6 I was angry with my people; I treated them as no longer mine: I put them in your power, and you showed them no mercy; even the aged you treated harshly. 7 You thought you would always be a queen, and did not take these things to heart or think how it all would end. 8 “Listen to this, you lover of pleasure, you that think you are safe and secure. You claim you are as great as God— that there is no one else like you. You thought that you would never be a widow or suffer the loss of your children. 9 But in a moment, in a single day, both of these things will happen. In spite of all the magic you use, you will lose your husband and children. 10 “You felt sure of yourself in your evil; you thought that no one could see you. Your wisdom and knowledge led you astray, and you said to yourself, ‘I am God— there is no one else like me.’ 11 Disaster will come upon you, and none of your magic can stop it. Ruin will come on you suddenly— ruin you never dreamed of! 12 Keep all your magic spells and charms; you have used them since you were young. Perhaps they will be of some help to you; perhaps you can frighten your enemies. 13 You are powerless in spite of the advice you get. Let your astrologers come forward and save you— those people who study the stars, who map out the zones of the heavens and tell you from month to month what is going to happen to you. 14 “They will be like bits of straw, and a fire will burn them up! They will not even be able to save themselves— the flames will be too hot for them, not a cozy fire to warm themselves by. 15 That is all the good they will do you— those astrologers you've consulted all your life. They all will leave you and go their own way, and none will be left to save you.” I have watched you in the past twist scriptures and take them out of context. Let me warn you sir, the harmer will come. It doesn't matter who you are, if you by your cleverness cause any feeble Christian to faint, it would have been better if a Millstone is tied on your neck and you be dipped into the Sea. |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:47pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: Sorry you are sadly wrong |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:48pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:but you do understand babylon is a concept city / country and not an individual ? like modern day babylon would be america. so this whole chapter you posted is irrelevant. in fact if we go by this chapter the astrologers are esteemed highly and GOD is saying even your astrologers cannot save you from that destruction which is coming upon you. even Daniel was an astrologer. you know ? Daniel of the book of daniel who was the apple of GODS EYE and the world renowned astrologer of that era ? |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 8:49pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Sorry sir. That's your interpretation not the Holy Spirits. Scriptures compliment and interpret other Scriptures. No Scripture stands alone to make any meaning. Jehovah can not warn his people against Witchcraft, Sorcery, Magic and Astrology and turn around and sanction this this. I'm not against you practicing your Star gazing, but pls stop misquoting Scriptures. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:50pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:lol bro is this not one of your pastors ? come on man, even a smart man like yourself ought to know when you are being played right ? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:53pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:was DANIEL the apple of GODS eye not the greatest astrologer of his time ? hence why he was highly favored by nebuchadnezzar ? GENESIS 1 VS 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:53pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: Again you misquote scripture for your itching ear. Let me finish it for you 13 All the counsel you have received has only worn you out! Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. 14 Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up. They cannot even save themselves from the power of the flame. These are not coals for warmth; this is not a fire to sit by. 15 That is all they are to you— these you have dealt with and labored with since childhood. All of them go on in their error; there is not one that can save you. God was letting them see the foolishness in relying on astrologers when even they can not save themselves. I am sure it's written in plain English for everyone to understand. |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:54pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: That may have been one of the pastors who made you stray |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:55pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:stray ? nah the question is why are you in that harlot house called the modern day church ? why are you lost sheep ? 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by Chubhie: 8:56pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Let go off the back and forth so the thread can move forward. Those people you quote has sworn by themselves not to stray and pursue any knowledge not sanctioned by their pastors no matter how cutting-edge such knowledge seems. Same people would fail to practice sharia that's commanded in the bible. 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:56pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: You are actually the lost one bro. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:57pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:again you dont understand the verse you are quoting. GOD is saying even your astrologers cannot save you from this destruction that is coming upon you. that verse places astrologers on a high pedestal. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 8:58pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:nah its you. narrow is the road and only few find it. how many of you go to church ? like millions. so that is definitely the wrong way. its too many. its a wide road hence the road to destruction lol 3 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 9:00pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
Chubhie:lol the thread was kinda slow tho bro. we are moving it forward with this back and forth. altho those two are stiff necked and rebellious like the israelites of old. those 2 have coconut heads. analice and butterflylion ![]() |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 9:01pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: And you actually assume that scripture meant the physical number right? ![]() How sad. As many as are led by the spirit of God they are the sons of God. It means few are they who follow the spirit of God and not those who go to church. You can go to the gathering yet not live by the spirit. Quality over quantity. 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 9:05pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:meaning you are in a church full of demons. so why would you go to a place where only few are genuine ? wouldnt you like to be amongst like minded brethrens ? the highest case of promiscuity and adultery occurs in your churches. the place is a hiding place for demons to commit their sins under the guise of religion. you better remove yourself from that gathering if you dont want to get destroyed. you have been warned bro 2 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 9:09pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot: The wheat and the chaff have to grow together for now. The one with the harvest knife is coming. Sorry I have to be where I have been commanded to be so as to save them that are lost. I cannot put on my light and hide it like you are hiding yours. I cannot be a city on a hill and be hidden much like you are. I cannot be a salt and be afraid to season lives much as you are selfishly living I cannot be the light of the world and be afraid to shine in the midst of darkness. Then why am I the light? Stop deceiving yourself. You are lost and confused. 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 9:11pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
butterflylion:really ? 2 corinthians 6 vs 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 9:19pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Hahahahahahahahaha. Was Daniel an Astrologer? Really? Oh Lawd. Now lets look at Daniel. Him and his three other Hebrew boys rejected the food which came from the King's table. WHY? BECAUSE THE FOOD WAS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS. the devil which Babylonians worshipped. God gave a devil Worshipper a dream as profound and significant as the one he had, but took it away from him. Note, Astrologers ruled Babylon. Sorcery and Magic ruled Babylon, but when they were called to tell thw dream and interpret it, they couldn't, Why? BECAUSE HE WHO THEY SERVED WAS DIFFERENT FROM HIM WHO GAVE THE DREAM. And the Astrologers said... And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh. Daniel:2:11 For this cause the king was angry and very furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise men of Babylon. Daniel:2:12 Daniel:2:16-19 Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation. Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions: That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven. If the Astrologers served the same God as Daniel, they wouldn't have been need for Daniel to leave them, go home to his fellows Jews, worshippers of Yahweh to fast and pray. Now hear what King Nebuchadnezzar said afterwards. Daniel:2:47 The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret. Sukkot, you may want to tell me why the three Hebrew boys were thrown into fire. Did they comply to the ways of Babylon? You may also want to tell me why Daniel was thrown into the Lions Den. Don't even bring Daniel into this matter. Daniel lived in that Kingdom, but that Kingdom had nothing on him. Again, i didn't post this for you. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 9:21pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:daniel 1 vs 20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm. <<< DANIEL WAS 10 TIMES BETTER THAN ALL THE ASTROLOGERS OF BABYLON 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 9:23pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:Oh Plsssss, sukkot. That passage of the Bible refers to all of you who pretend to serve God but are not. Sukkot, let me ask you this. When The Lord Jesus talked about the Deep things of satan, what was he warning us against? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 9:28pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
analice107:first of all lol, do you know what satan means ? it means ADVERSARY. meaning being adverse to the laws of GOD meaning anyone can be satan. even peter was called satan when JESUS said get thee behind me satan. so satan will be people who steaL kill cheat aka 419 etc commit adultery etc etc. these are satanic spirits. these would be the people who pretend to serve GOD but are really satanic beings who break all the laws. SEE YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THIS BIBLE VERY WELL GURL ![]() |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 9:41pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:So, in your opinion Jehovah is not against Astrology and other satanic practices? Okay, lets look at other Scriptures. Like I said, Scriptures interpret Scriptures. Deuteronomy:18:9-14 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do. Who are the Observers of times here Aren't Astrologers Observers of times? Deuteronomy:4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. Deuteronomy:17:2-3 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; Jeremiah:10:1-2 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. Daniel:1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king enquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm. Why was Daniel better than the Babylonian Astrololgers and Magicians? Acts:19:18-20 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. I hope you know who the Bible is talking about here? Again sir, i'm not posting this for you. i'm posting for as many who may believe your lies and believe they can worship satan and worship God at the same time. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 9:56pm On Sep 12, 2017 |
sukkot:lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. You are a very clever man sir, but you cant fool me. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Revelation:12:7 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Revelation:12:8 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation:12:9 Satan is an entity which possess people and make them do his biding. And, Jesus didn't call Peter Satan, He knew who spoke through Peter and He responded to him accordingly. Before that incident Peter was already warned of what satan would want to do with him. ALuke:22:31-32 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. Pls stop. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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