frumentius:


We really should not have cancelled our A400M order

Do you know how I everyday calculate the number of troops we would be able to project because of those A400Ms? Together with the helicopter carrier that was supposed to be purchased in the Arms Deal.

Can we have a new president already and maybe grow our economy by 5% annually then the government can start spending again.

ActivateKruger:


That B-CAT could use some GreenandGold 3D product design services

Never mind that. I want my Hornet long-wheel base .
Seeing the current version can handle Milan and Starstreak, but not Ingwe IPLS.

Speaking of which, can anybody explain to me why we continue to hold the Milan in inventory seeing that Denel has now developed the Ingwe IPLS?

Who remembers Henry240's argument about aircraft repair centres across Africa? 

Well, according to AfricaCheck there's 49 listed across the continent but non were actually found in west Africa. 

http://polity.org.za/article/does-africa-only-have-3-facilities-to-repair-aircraft-2017-09-14

In pic: A South African registered civilian Russian helicopter leaves a Denel Aviation facility

ActivateKruger:


He didn't bother reading the article, his own authorities admit that " If aircraft checks and repairs were done locally, Nigeria could save US$500 million annually and create up to 10,000 jobs, a June 2017 aviation seminar heard" .... Also " But John Ojikutu, a member of Nigerian aviation industry think-tank Aviation Round Table and retired Nigeria air force pilot, said that the country’s states had more pressing concerns, such as building more schools and hospitals"


So, his logic is like when General Motors says they don't have facilities in your town then you post them a picture of a Chevy stripped in some warehouse with guys on overalls.

Facilities in Nigeria

1) Aero contractors facility
2) NAF AIRDC facility Kaduna
3) NAF facility in Kainji.

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ActivateKruger:


How dare you call it an APC? Are you suffering from low self-esteem issues? It's a glorious IFV that can tear a Badger apart.

Oh dear! I expect patriotic and supremely covert august bug persons with high self-esteem to put me to rights!

frumentius:


Uncle Sam's favourite African country .

i think you need to read this https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights/

newafricaken254:
i think you need to read this https://theintercept.com/2017/09/13/nsa-ethiopia-surveillance-human-rights/

I think you presume I haven't.

Sudan air force SU-25 Jet pilot

kenya police woman

zambia air force MI-17E Helicopter

Quite like what the Singaporeans have done with the Paramount Marauder.

botswana defence force Air Wing CN-235 aircraft.

frumentius:


Oh dear! I expect patriotic and supremely covert august persons with high self-esteem to put me to rights!

U bet. U can't resist the plunge we know How about "our gripens are Gripens but actually has better performance than the Su-30". You see chief egoist frummie of the southies I know ur ilk, ain't nothing different as I have often exchanges with ur cousins. I mean u guys can take a coin and make it look like gold and yes of course a myopic cynic would buy it—never mind that kind amongst our people, we got them aplenty but so too many with intellect to cut u to size. I must give u and ur co-travelers here ur due who stick together and never eat ur own much like the British but not so us with dissenters, saboteurs, secessionists and domestic enemies in real life and cyberspace much like the Americans reason we have our hands full fighting on many fronts and still winning albeit not at full strength. Imagine what we would be like without all the wars we currently fight none of which u contend with and still the trajectory is in our favour. Go ahead and play while u still can because the moon is dim and small stars cast there carefree glitter but not for long. By the way this is Covert.

frumentius:
Quite like what the Singaporeans have done with the Paramount Marauder.

A colleague reckons this is the way armoured recce cars are going: no longer Eland or Panhard Crab-type vehicles.
I disagree.

Covert1:


U bet. U can't resist the plunge we know How about "our gripens are Gripens but actually has better performance than the Su-30". You see chief egoist frummie of the southies I know ur ilk, ain't nothing different as I have often exchanges with ur cousins. I mean u guys can take a coin and make it look like gold and yes of course a myopic cynic would buy it—never mind that kind amongst our people, we got them aplenty but so too many with intellect to cut u to size. I must give u and ur co-travelers here ur due who stick together and never eat ur own much like the British but not so us with dissenters, saboteurs, secessionists and domestic enemies in real life and cyberspace much like the Americans reason we have our hands full fighting on many fronts and still winning albeit not at full strength. Imagine what we would be like without all the wars we currently fight none of which u contend with and still the trajectory is in our favour. Go ahead and play while u still can because the moon is dim and small stars cast there carefree glitter but not for long. By the way this is Covert.

You have done well, but you should not have even bothered responding.

Sudan army parading BMP-2 IFV's ,upgraded with a 30mm 2A42 Cobra one-man turret

Some visitors to the Atlantic Coast from the warm Indian waters. Where is @AndrewZA?

Algerian1, our Naval sailing boat is nowhere fancy as yours.

a member of an elite Sudan police unit ,holding a Terab 5.56X45 mm NATO rifle (a clone of Norinco Type CQ 5.56X45 mm NATO rifle )

It's social media Thursday, don't leave pics all-over the Internet

frumentius:


Uncle Sam's favourite African country .

In my opinion its just grooming for a AFRICOM Southern Africa Command Centre, just in case SA or Angola miss behave and Uncle Sam needs to "protect" its strategic interests.

Throwback of NAF trainees in the US

frumentius:


Never mind that. I want my Hornet long-wheel base .
Seeing the current version can handle Milan and Starstreak, but not Ingwe IPLS.

Speaking of which, can anybody explain to me why we continue to hold the Milan in inventory seeing that Denel has now developed the Ingwe IPLS?

Hey man, I said you should take me to the right people. I ain't sharing the design online, too many eyes.

I'm working on something around these lines, but with 2 secondary light machine guns mounted on the top sides. They can be exchanged for Milkor MGLs, so a single Hornet can fire a .50 and 3 SS77s or a single .50 with 1 SS77 and 2 grenade launches. That's deadly, I know.

Covert1:


U bet. U can't resist the plunge we know How about "our gripens are Gripens but actually has better performance than the Su-30". You see chief egoist frummie of the southies I know ur ilk, ain't nothing different as I have often exchanges with ur cousins. I mean u guys can take a coin and make it look like gold and yes of course a myopic cynic would buy it—never mind that kind amongst our people, we got them aplenty but so too many with intellect to cut u to size. I must give u and ur co-travelers here ur due who stick together and never eat ur own much like the British but not so us with dissenters, saboteurs, secessionists and domestic enemies in real life and cyberspace much like the Americans reason we have our hands full fighting on many fronts and still winning albeit not at full strength. Imagine what we would be like without all the wars we currently fight none of which u contend with and still the trajectory is in our favour. Go ahead and play while u still can because the moon is dim and small stars cast there carefree glitter but not for long. By the way this is Covert.

@Augubugu it seems your cognitive disconnect
with reality stems from various factors.
Ignorance, arrogance, deception,
propaganda, parochialism. But a
shorthand term for the cognitive
impairment is "stupidity".

GreenandGold:


Hey man, I said you should take me to the right people. I ain't sharing the design online, too many eyes.

I'm working on something around these lines, but with 2 secondary light machine guns mounted on the top sides. They can be exchanged for Milkor MGLs, so a single Hornet can fire a .50 and 3 SS77s or a single .50 with 1 SS77 and 2 grenade launches. That's deadly, I know.

All that has been mounted on the Hornet. I thought you understood why a long-wheel base was necessary. The 20 together with the Ingwe IPLS doesn't work on the current version.

A pair of brand new Y-12 for the Malian Air Force

frumentius:

All that has been mounted on the Hornet. I thought you understood why a long-wheel base was necessary. The 20 together with the Ingwe IPLS doesn't work on the current version.

True, all have been mounted but not on the configuration I mentioned. Think about it, 1 Browning and 3 SS77s in a single vehicle? I too get the chills thinking about it. (also, the number of operators is increased)

As for the Ingwe ATM and the Browning in the same vehicle, wouldn't the Browning gunner block the viewfinder and projection of the missile from his back?

GreenandGold:

True, all have been mounted but not on the configuration I mentioned. Think about it, 1 Browning and 3 SS77s in a single vehicle? I too get the chills thinking about it. (also, the number of operators is increased)

As for the Ingwe ATM and the Browning in the same vehicle, wouldn't the Browning gunner block the viewfinder and projection of the missile from his back?

No. The 20mm gun, 81mm mortar and 7.62 PKM all on the same vehicle seems to work just fine. You're not understanding the problem with the Ingwe on the Hornet.

frumentius:


Never mind that. I want my Hornet long-wheel base .
Seeing the current version can handle Milan and Starstreak, but not Ingwe IPLS.

Speaking of which, can anybody explain to me why we continue to hold the Milan in inventory seeing that Denel has now developed the Ingwe IPLS?

Remember the project to develop a man portable Mokopa missile? Why was the project stopped? cor......

My guess is that the Ingwe similar to the BILL 2 ATGM which had over the top attack capabilities is too heavy. The BILL 2 was offered to the SANDF.

frumentius:


Quite correct. There is absolutely no need for a new presidential aircraft. Especially when the current one is in robust health and the SAAF has more pressing need for those funds.

I actually think VIP Transport for the Presidency should be moved out of the SAAF. If it stays, the Presidency should pay for it, instead of SAAF's operational funds.
Or we go the same way as our Pommie cousins: a modular fleet like the Airbus MRTT which does RAF cargo duty, Air2Air refuelling and can be fitted with the VIP module when requested (and paid for) by 10 Downing Street.

We really should not have cancelled our A400M order

Problem is the "unwillingness to share".

If budget allowed I'd say we acquire 3 MRTT. One fitted for EW purposes. They'd be useful in personnel transportation too.

jakeporeshenko:
A pair of brand new Y-12 for the Malian Air Force

it also looks like they have external fuel tanks(drop tanks) to extended the aircraft range

Zambia air force Z-9 helicopter pilot

kenya defence force Engineers Brigade soldiers secure a Somalia national Army defensive position against Vehicle-Borne Improvised Explosive Devices