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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 4:30am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Smile4mee01: Continue to wait and write to the admissions office at the school you applied in Canada. Yes you can go to school in the USA and many are happy to help you apply to change to a student visa while in the USA. From experience though, these are schools desperate to get your money and give you an education. It's hard to change from B1 to F-1. But totally possible if you do your homework well. If you think you can afford to pay your way, that would be your easiest route. But if you can't afford and need a significant scholarship, your best way is to go through the application process right here in Nigeria as most of the schools have as their scholarship criteria, that the student be residing and coming directly from Africa. Even Canadian schools have this criteria, e.g, TRU Master in Education, full scholarship for African students. No you cannot apply for Canadian student visa while on a visiting visa to USA or Australia or anywhere else as a matter of fact. As one sacrificial lamb here wedged his life to prove, you would be rejected based on status in country of application. Good luck. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 4:33am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Favourina87:Email your school and explain your situation to them clearly and concisely. Tell them how long it takes for CIC to adjudicate Nigerian applicants and explain how their withdrawal of your application could lead to a TRV refusal even though you've already waited this long. Actually I don't know what CIC does if they ask for an updated admission letter and you don't provide it; but you don't want to find out, do you? Be a bit sentimental in the email to your school. If you can, follow up with a phone call and speak to someone in their international office. Schools in the west are usually not that rigid. 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 4:36am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Nogen:Pay the 17k and courier the document ASAP. Have you heard the phrase "penny wise and pound foolish"? You don't want that to be you. 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 4:39am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Favourina87: I will advice you simply wait for CIC to request new admission. While waiting, reapply against September. If you got in before, chances are very strong you will get in again. Use that admission letter to give to them when CIC makes its request. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 4:41am On Sep 15, 2017 |
hoeludayo39:If you are gonna use your cousin's company account, you would also need to show VO proof that he has complete ownership of the company and he has authority over the company' accounts. He may also have to explain why he is using the company account to sponsor you. It's doable but your cousin's sponsorship letter has to provide clear explanations to the VO. Proof showing that your cousin (or whoever your sponsor is) has prepaid your tuition already will also go a long way to convince the VO. Tho it's not compulsory, I usually suggest this when the sponsorship may not appear credible to the VO. You'd have to show proof that it's said sponsor that did the paying though. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 4:46am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: They don't convert it. They support you in applying with issued form I-20 and supporting letters to USCIS why you would be a good candidate for conversion from B-1 to F-1. Not easy, but possible and a lot of people do it and are successful. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 4:49am On Sep 15, 2017 |
BRANDYAK:Why not she sell the land and the buyer deposit the funds into your account? You attach proof of the sale documents, attach proof of transfer from buyer's account into yours. Your sister in her sponsorship letter explains that the land was an investment and she sold it and authorized the buyer to deposit the money into your account. If there's clear & concise proof and the explanation is clear and not sketchy, it won't be a red flag. Since she's also attaching her personal account then you'll be good. The key thing is making everything clear and unambiguous to the VO. Any excessively complicated explanation or unclear documentation increases your risk of denial for insufficient funds (at least this is what I'd do if I were a VO). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 4:53am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02:I just wanted to correct the person's misconception that the school has a role to play in the B1-F1 visa conversion. As you already know, all the school does is what they do for everyone else, give you an I-20 and *maybe* write a letter to USCIS to support your application but that letter probably won't increase your chances (because USCIS knows that it's just a routine letter). Having said that it is possible but in this day and age unlikely (used to be routine before though) and also risky. If s/he gets denied and comes back to Naija, s/he is unlikely to be issued another US visa in Naija again. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 5:04am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: I think someone applying before a VO with a PGD acceptance and less stellar third class degree is a recipe for getting tagged with the "purpose of visit" designation. I would feel much comfortable advising a third class go before the VO with a masters admission. While hard to get accepted with a third class for a masters, it's not impossible. There are many schools in Canada too interested in you simply for your money and are happy to create programs for you to meet certain deficiencies. Lol. Research, Reaearch, Reaearch!! |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by kosb: 5:12am On Sep 15, 2017 |
DEEAJA: I think the delay is all from Uni Ibadan. Not sure how they operate but a similar thing happened to my cousin who applied for hers in UNN. After some weeks of the verification delay, I went to the records office only to find out that usually, applicants are required to pay 10k verification fee ie after paying for the transcript (mind u, they didn't even bother communicating this to her). I paid the 10k and in 3 days, hers was verified. So I advise you find out from Uni Ibadan what might be causing the delay. My cousin also mentioned something wrt the whole WES verification process having a deadline, after which applicant will have to start the process afresh. Not sure about this, but u can ask to find out more. Cheers |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by favoured2018: 5:12am On Sep 15, 2017 |
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 5:16am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: Letter writing in support of change of status are not routine by schools and usually go a long way in helping to win a change of status. And change of status itself has never been a routine process. They have always taken serious effort as long as I can remember. But you are right, if rejected while in the USA, you don't have a prayer in Nigeria. With good planning you should be successful in applying within the USA. Or better apply from Nigeria. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by favoured2018: 5:18am On Sep 15, 2017 |
good day everyone, pls i am new here and wou;d appreciate it if the gurus here can help out, 1. what schools in canada give offer of admission early 2. does carleton reply early in terms of admission thank you all, looking forward to impactful discussions on this thread. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 5:22am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02:The applicant, with a third-class BSc, has a much higher change getting into a US (or UK) school for a masters than to a Canadian graduate school. The reality is that there are just wayyy more schools in the US, and US schools can be more money greedy because they want to you pay their super-expensive international student tuition (particularly private schools). (Btw, I love US schools & Canadian schools in general so not dissing either country) Most Canadian graduate departments have a 2:1 requirement, getting admission with a third class would be a near miracle unless the applicant is truly spectacular in other ways. The fact that the applicant is in engineering makes it even tougher cos engineering graduate departments are typically more competitive to get into. Btw, I helped someone (with advanced diploma admission) work on his TRV app and he got a TRV to Canada after a BSc CGPA that was almost a third class. The applicant was able to show the VO that he was spectacular, and he/we didn't need to bring attention to his poor CGPA (even though we attached his transcripts). We brought attention to his passions and how they translate to his plans for what he'd do in Nigeria with his Canada education (we were very specific, with citations of his economic research into the area he plans to shape in Nigeria). We also explained the side projects he'd been doing in Nigeria already (to demonstrate his passion), and provided lots of evidence to prove it, etc. The goal was to credibly paint the applicant as a visionary (which was true), and we did so. Now I was skeptical that the applicant would get the visa, but I felt the chances weren't bad given how spectacular the application was. And voila, visa approved. It took a whole lot of work though. In my view, the probably of getting a TRV with a third class is equal to or better than the probability of getting into an engineering MSc in Canada with a third class. Now if the applicant takes the GRE and scores above the 90th percentile, his/her chances of getting MSc admission goes up. 5 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 5:31am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: I promise you that I can get admission for this person into a masters degree from Canadian school with his third class. Schools do not look only for grades, they also look at personal statements and other intents and these are great cause for hope. He has to try himself and the word is not out yet on his admission till he gives up! Wasn't some girl testifying the other day getting accepted with significant scholarship with a 2.1? I don't know the Nigerian designation, but that has got to be pretty low. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 5:40am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02: I don't disagree that it's theoretically possible. It's just extremely unlikely given that the applicant wants to do an engineering program Engineering is different from other fields in that a perfect SOP does not change the fact that the applicant is unlikely to be able to cope in classes that require advanced math. A great SOP or excellent intent does not compensate in any way for the applicant's lack of quantitative skills (as measured by grades on the transcript). This is why I mention that a high GRE score (or research publications or successful engineering projects, with evidence) can be the saving grace. Even though a school might be impressed by the applicant's perfect SOP, that won't translate to them being able to admit him/her knowing that he/she would have to go back to take freshman or sophomore math classes in order to merely cope. (No offense intended to the moniker who brought this up, just being realistic here.) Edited: PS: A 2:1 isn't low (it spans from 3.5/5.0 to 4.49/5.0). I'd recommend you do some more reading on the Nigerian CGPA system. This would help you comment more knowledgeably on this topic. 7 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Nogen: 5:44am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02:Please take up the challenge and help your brother. I'm sure he would appreciate it. 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by maziude: 5:49am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02: Boss, With regards to the bolded above, a 2.1 is Second class Upper (A second class upper GPA starts from 3.5/5 in most Nigerian University) and that is not low. Like what @thesoj is saying, it would be difficult and nearly impossible for someone with a third class (without any relevant research or work experience to boost his or her chances) to get an msc admission in Canada, especially in engineering and with the level of competition. That is one of the reasons people go with PGD/PGC. I would advise the boss involved to apply with the PGD he or she has and thoroughly explain to the VO why the s/he needs the grades and what use it will be to him or her. 4 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 5:50am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Nogen: Let's not argue for the sake of arguing here. I will take on the challenge. Please this person should pm me and pretty confident I can help them. It's all about how you assemble your application, a not strong showing in grades can be offset with other important admission criteria even in the engineering admission arena. 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 6:01am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02:You've stated that you don't understand the Nigerian grading system, so you don't exactly know what a third class translates to in CGPA yet you've made proclamations about what you can do for the applicant. You need to first scope a problem before proclaiming a fix. I wish the applicant the best. 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by yomcy2016(f): 6:03am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Hi gbsunmonu, please I pm'd you. Can you kindly accept. Thanks. gbsunmonu: 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by efosases: 6:08am On Sep 15, 2017 |
My school is doing the same oh and also said the can not issue a new offer letter until February. Just wondering if the embassy now need a new offer letter, how would this be done. Favourina87: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 6:14am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: I may not understand the Nigerian university grading system, but I know damn well about admission criteria in the west, having been part of that system for many years. It is not Nigeria where everything rests on grades alone. It depends on the big picture you paint before an admissions committee, than simply your grades. With the right essay and sterling recommendations from past professors and employers, reaearch proposal and justifications of why he didn't perform too well in college, I can assure you this person would be placed well on Canada's least competitive university/college for an engineering program. I feel he would better positioned for his TRV application than going before a VO with a third class and PGD. Anyways of this person contacts me and I am able to help, maybe this can be a precedent for the house. Anything is possible, the crime is not in trying. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by ifechez: 6:29am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Good morning House. I wrote to my school for deferment since my trv is not yet out and they replied that the course I was given earlier is not offered in January that I can take another related course. What will be the implication if I forward to CIC a deferment letter of an entirely new course different from the one I did the application with? Please I need advice. Tanx 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 6:34am On Sep 15, 2017 |
jnyuwa02:Your enthusiasm is commendable bro. But do keep in mind that your having lived in the west doesn't mean that your opinions about western topics/contexts should automatically be considered as credible. Having lived in the west doesn't grant anyone authority on all things western. E.g. most Americans don't know anything about how to get into an engineering graduate program in the US or Canada. International engineering grad students schooling in the US/Canada (or even well-read applicants) would know much more. I should generally add that your observation that it's not only grades that matter is indeed correct, and this is something so many people on here have hammered on repeatedly (myself included). But a research proposal won't fix a third class. A research proposal sounds great on paper, having the skills to execute it is a different story altogether. I would advise anyone reading this to not automatically take advice from anyone just because the person says they lived in America or Canada and therefore they are correct. Do your own research, and listen to people who have intellectual humility and are open to changing their minds if they find that their assumptions are incorrect. This includes me. Analyze what I say to see if it makes sense. Also, credible sources on the internet (e.g. CIC website, school websites, admissions officers, etc) are just a few clicks away. 10 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 6:52am On Sep 15, 2017 |
thesoj: Depends on the Americans you talk to. The taste of the food is in the eating. I have spoken from experience and can help. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by BRANDYAK: 6:53am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Thanks very much bro thesoj: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by chetchat101: 6:56am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Click on this link to watch a video interview on How to Study in Canada – Scholarships and Admission Process in Canada for Indian Students with Sarayu Kantheti of University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. Watch to know how can I study in Canada and particularly How can I study in Canada for free. Some of the questions answered in this interview include 1. How can I study in Canada, as an International Student? 2. Are there scholarships for studying in Canada? 3. How do I get admission in a university in Canada? 4. Which is the best university in Canada? 5. Why Study in Canada? 6. Cost of Studying in Canada 6. How is studying in Canada for Indian students 7. Which are the best colleges in Canada for MS, MBA, Engineering? 8. Study in Canada (Admission & Visa Process) 9. How much does it cost if we are not getting admission through scholarship? 10. Information about the tuition fee, living expenses etc? 11. What is the application process to apply to a university in Canada 12. Can we work while studying in Canada? 13. What are the job opportunities after finishing my studies in Canada? 14. How does the application process to Canada differ from that to USA and UK? 15. Can I get a full scholarship for studying in Canada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpzqUnPejv0&list=PLB5ECDeclpYrVNKFbBwDmVzBprbTnbUev 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by bbclue(f): 7:38am On Sep 15, 2017 |
Derel.....Derel...derel. ....my beautiful sister from these thread . ......wishing you a happy birthday and a prosperous day..don't worry by these time next year na canada u go celebrate your next birthday..... 6 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by bronze25(f): 7:48am On Sep 15, 2017 |
bronze25:Please can someone help me. Thanks |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by patra91: 7:55am On Sep 15, 2017 |
hello house, I have two questions 1) at what point are we to pay for courier service? Is it at the point of submitting your application? 2)will one'as original passport be collected and kept throughout the processing time if applying via paper route? thank you. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Suplexx: 8:20am On Sep 15, 2017 |
princeadedayo: If I do a 16 months course, would I be allowed to stay and work in Canada after graduation? Secondly, do you know any good GMAT/GRE lecture center in Lagos? I left school many years ago and I am so rusty academically |
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