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Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 10:46am On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:what souls ? i am not here on a crusade trying to convert anyone. i am just having a discourse with you. let each man hold fastly onto what he has. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 10:48am On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:That will be better. BTW, you said the gods of Egypt were not spiritual entities but strong human men of Egypt. Like the Pharaohs, i dropped names of gods of Egypt, but you skipped through them like you didn't see them. Why? Pls, quote the Egyptian Literatures, for they practice Astrology and Magic too. |
Re: The Middle Path by Chubhie: 10:49am On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:One thing you should learn to respect about a hardened Sunni Muslim is their ever readiness to die for their truths. Between a person whose words and actions are unified and one whose words and actions are in opposite directions, Which commands your respects? |
Re: The Middle Path by Chubhie: 10:55am On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:That's the human condition we all are into. We either learn to make things easier and simpler for each other or bring armageddon down. |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:01am On Sep 16, 2017 |
Chubhie:Armageddon will come down regardless. it is one of lifes cycles. A paradigm change will always happen because the empire on top will always abuse their power. absolute power corrupts. so Armageddon is an inevitability of this our existence 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:07am On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107: i take it you are not well versed in the egyptian litany of their gods. These gods represent different aspects of the human existence. The human existence is deified into parts. so they are not actual gods but just representations of humanity. the rise and fall aspects of humanity. heaven and hell. for example NUT represents those who have fallen into hell. SORBEK represents the destroyer in hell. GEB represents osiris aka the person who puts affliction on you. SESHAT represents the scribes and writers. IMHOTEP represents the ascended masters. AUSET represents those who are fallen. OSIRIS represents the ass kicker aka the destroyer of sinners etc etc etc etc. its different facets of our existence put into pantheon literature 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by WrathOfHadez(m): 11:32am On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:Hi Look around you...when I was a kid growing up, we used to have these diviners and seers and their crafts all over the place and people know and recognised them as folks of the dark art. However, as Christianity gained main stream acceptance and became something of a fad, all these diviners and seers morphed into pseudo- Christians, exploiting bogus Bible verses to support their trade and craft, so you will hardly see any diviner today without claiming to be a Christian. They are like animals struggling to cope with the reality of extinction and have cleverly morphed into contemporary Christians. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Sukkot and his cohorts! |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 11:40am On Sep 16, 2017 |
WrathOfHadez:LOL bro, prophets in the bible were seers. hence the name prophets. In your world anybody who sees the future ( including all the prophets ) is a devil |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 11:42am On Sep 16, 2017 |
Chubhie:The Hardened Sunni Muslim is being driving by something greater than him. A sunni Muslim is a slave, he doesn't have a mind of his own. He doesn't have the right to choose. He does as he is told, if he doesn't, he dies. A sunni Muslim, aside from being Psychologically forced to do what he does, he is also bribed to do them. He is threatened with the law of Apostasy which mandates his very immediate family who shd stand by him in his struggles to be the first to cast the stone, ostracize and denigrate him, this, he fears. A sunni muslim is driven by FEAR. 'if i don't do this, that Will be done to me'. A sunni Muslim is bribed to kill to get Virgins he will spend all his eternity disvirgining. He is told not to drink Alcohol on earth, but bribed with it if he'd kill infidels and die doing so. A sunni Muslim is absolved of the guilt that comes with Murder. His Allah tells him, do not feel any guilt when you kill an infidel, i have rejected and condemned him already, killing him is doing him a favour. Do not think you are the one who has killed him, it is i allah who has killed him. So a sunning Muslim can kill any one and go without any atom of guilt. If you read "A God that Hates" you'll get a better picture of a Sunni Muslim. If you are sure a Sunni Muslim is ready to die for their truths, remove the Apostasy law and give choice, not choice to choose, step back and watch. Chubhie:I will respect a person whose words and actions are unified if his words and actions are driven by him and by his CHOICE. I won't respect a zombie. Any man whose words are actions are in opposite direction is not alive. Jesus likened him to be like the wave of the sea. Tossed here and there, will go no where, he will amount to nothing, so no, i won't have respect for him. BUT, i will have very a level of respect for a man who is given a choice to choose 'either,or', and he chooses and stands by it. A man who is left to supervise himself. A man who knows 'No one is watching me, i can do it and no one will know, yet decides not to do it. A man who has the power to do as he pleases but applies RESTRAIN, CONTROL, and obeys what he is told. That man is a Christian. A muslim is told, 'If you are caught committing it then you are guilty, a Christian is told, if you think it, you have done it. My respect is for a man who obeys by choice, not by fear. |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 11:49am On Sep 16, 2017 |
I saw all the "wonderful" things you wrote about a typical Sunni Moslem. ![]() Don't you think the fear of hellfire and eternal damnation (***coughs, clears throat***) and the promise of heaven has psychologically messed up the minds of Christians? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by WrathOfHadez(m): 11:58am On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:You are a diviner, an astrologist wannabe. The difference between you and the prophet is that they hear and prophesy directly from God, while you hear directly form Lucifer himself. Just as Lucifer twisted the scriptures to tempt Jesus Christ after his 40 days fast, so in same manner you're twisting scriptures to support divination and dark art here. Just as Paul cast out the evil spirit of fortune-telling from the slave girl in the Bible (and her prophesies were accurate as she made lots of money for her owners) so is the need to exorcise your demons of perversion very paramount for the sanity of Christians who visit this forum.
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Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 12:06pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
WrathOfHadez:ahhhh but they did not tell you the process by which they heard directly from GOD. you are assuming GOD appeared to them and spoke with them directly which bible says no man has seen GOD or no man can see GOD and live. GOD doesnt just appear to you and starts talking to you. he leads you to where the messages are using different methods. |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 12:09pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: You would be right to say that I don't subscribe to that thought. But I have no doubts that was the impression biblical writers wished to convey. The issue is that it goes both ways. By including the story biblical scribes gave credence and tacit approval to the Magi, there is no hint of sorcerous thought or endeavour, the visit was described in glowing terms. They could simply have been turned away. |
Re: The Middle Path by WrathOfHadez(m): 12:12pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:There are uncountable accounts in scripture where God gave messages to the prophets, Elija, Moses,, etc. The truth is that you're too dumb to be an advocate of astrology or divination! Gush! You must be self-employed in your futile quest to impress your prospective dark bosses, for I know no one will recruit a man like you with such exemplary nescience. Your knowledge base isn't enough to earn you a career in divination advocacy. 3 Likes |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 12:18pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
WrathOfHadez:true indeed, however the bible does not go into specifics about the process involved in getting the message. exodus 33 vs 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. << YOU CANT SEE HIS FACE AND LIVE SO WE KNOW HE IS NOT APPEARING TO THEM AND GIVING THEM THE MESSAGES. THERE IS A PROCESS INVOLVED WHICH IS NOT DISCUSSED |
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 12:20pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: The same chapter in Exodus goes on to state that the children of Israel left Egypt ready for battle. Why would they have turned back? You wrote somewhere that the devil finds work for idle hands. If they had taken a more direct route the Israelites may not have been led into temptation in the first place. So, what you are saying here is that guided by the Pillar of God the Israelites went around in circles in the desert until every last grown up who had departed Egypt had dropped dead! Sounds like a pretty vengeful deity to me. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:23pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
WrathOfHadez:Very correct sir. I'm glad someone else has noticed what I have noticed over the years. All those charlatans are now prophets and prophetesses in what they call ' Deliverance Ministeries'. Parading their Spirits of divination everywhere and the spiritually lazy run to them, when they lose their money or get Sexually Molested, that's when we'll hear about it. Returning men to the bondages Jesus set them free from. Jezzzz Satan is wicked. Their sons and daughters are in here claiming Atheism. They tell you they were once Christians but now atheists. When you ask them a simple question that every baby Christian should know they begin to ramble. Ladies and gentlemen, this is how you know anyone with a spirit of divination claiming prophet of prophetess; It's mainly used for merchandizing. If you are asked to sow a seed into their lives, run. If you are asked to come for any kind of assignment. if you are asked to pay for prayer or for people to pray for you, run. If you asked to buy water or oil of any kind, run. Oh Jesus!!!!!!? Men, women, open your eyes satan is in Church teaching lies and deceit. Teaching people to accept from satan what Jesus rejected. Teaching you to seek first 'These other things' hoping the kingsom of God shall be added unto you. Teaching Pride, Haughtiness, hate, unforgiveness, malice, and strife. acrimony, revenge. Today, a pastor has declared that homosexuality is not a sin. will you keep going to him? If you worship in any church you're told to kill your enemy with prayer, satan is there. If you now live in fear of insects around you because of what the prophet told you, run from there, he is an agent of satan. Jesus has given us the spirit of boldness, not of fear. Fear is Satan's tool of bondage. If you are in any church where you are told your mother, father, Aunty or uncle, neighbour, colleague or any human being at all is your enemy, run from there, satan is there. SATAN IS MAN'S ENEMY, HE HIDES BEHIND PEOPLE AND TURN US AGAINST EACH OTHER. don't hate anyone, don't desire the hurt or downfall of anyone, even if the person confesses to be responsible for your woes, forgive them. Jesus is love. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:25pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Sukkottttttt. You just assume you are talking to grade 2kids right? |
Re: The Middle Path by WrathOfHadez(m): 12:26pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Stop disgracing yourself and every human unfortunate to bear your forename! God has spoken to people through dreams, Joseph, David, even pegans who attempted to sleep with Sarah, Abraham's wife were spoken to through dreams. Samuel heard directly from God as a little boy. You're a desperate hustler, son. I know Nairaland represents to you the largest recruitment field for the gullible. Religion and prophesy is the in thing now and the new money spinner, but you need to master the art of deception and sneakiness to eat from this deception. You're destined to remain hungry for the rest of your days if you continue with this spectacular show of religious idiocy. Learn or get a new career! 1 Like |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 12:27pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
WrathOfHadez: www.nairaland.com/attachments/5709257_baby_jpegd840a7da96e36a01980a9142b58ec87a |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 12:31pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:No I am not. I studied the whole egyptian cosmology for years. about 4 years ( as a side hobby of course ) to be exact. I am very well versed in the whole cosmology of Kemet. I am well versed in the esoterics of all the cosmology too. I can also read the hieroglyphs and write in hieroglyphics too |
Re: The Middle Path by WrathOfHadez(m): 12:34pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:The good news is that the Bible records of dark prophesies that are accurate in prediction but are from the devil himself. E.g the slave girl Paul casted out the evil spirit of prophecy which was used for monetary gains . A shocking reality of what still goes on today where these charlatans charge a fee for deliverance or prayer. Also, the witch who evoked Samuel's spirit was also an example of dark powers having means and access to the metaphysical and future. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:38pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:My dearest Sukkot, the grand patron of the ascended masters, do you actually believe that what we say here will not affect our readers in one way or the other? Bros, Jihadi John was just a kid until he began to listen to a shirk who told him his duties as a muslim. He was told what allah expected of him and if he didn't do it, he wasn't worthy of allah, and he wanted to impress his allah, so off he went to join isis. Words spoken by man turned him into a very deadly person. In the spirit realm, words are entities, they perform duties as they are spoken out by humans. I for one, didn't know Astrology was a sin against my God until i read about it somewhere. I was reading Zodiac signs without the knowledge of the implications. Someone reading us here may be doing the same without knowing too. But after reading us, he/she will decide whether to go on or stop just like i did. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:43pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:It's not about them, it's about their sources. Was Moses's source the same as Balaam's? They all had Spirits talking to them, but was it the same spirit behind both of them? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 12:45pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107: www.nairaland.com/attachments/5709257_baby_jpegd840a7da96e36a01980a9142b58ec87a LOL BOLDED but ermm analice are you aware that the zodiac was called the mazzaroth before they changed the name to the zodiac ? in ancient greece it was called the mazzaroth. well lets hear what GOD says about the mazzaroth job 38 vs 32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? << MEANING ONLY GOD CAN BRING OUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE MAZZAROTH WHEN THE SEASON FOR ENLIGHTENMENT UPON THE GLOBE HAS COME. THE WISDOM OF THE MAZZAROTH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazzaroth |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:50pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
onyenze123:I'm a Christian and i'm not messed up. I'm not afraid of hellfire. You know why? I'm regenerated. i'm redeemed, bought and paid for in full. Hellfire was never made for man, so, any man who ends there, made that choice. It doesn't matter how many times you say this, it won't change the fact that, God didn't create hellfire for man. You are heading there becos of your rebellion not because you don't have a choice. The door is still open. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 12:58pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Hmmm. Do you remember the first question i asked you when we started this discussion? What branch of Christianity do you practice? You said none. Which Christian doesn't know that God is a Spirit and whoever he chooses he anoints with the Holy Spirit and power? Wait, does God talks to you? How does he do it? |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 1:01pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
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Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 1:03pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:and how exactly does a spirit with no body talk to someone ? by guiding your feet to where the messages are. Thats how GOD Speaks to people. He can guide you to pick up a book or to check the signs and times via astronomy. i believe the stumbling block is the name astrology. its astronomy. cuz what i do is astronomy. it involves numbers and positions proverbs 20 vs 24 A man's steps are determined by the LORD, so how can anyone understand his own way? |
Re: The Middle Path by sukkot: 1:06pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
analice107:he talks to me like this PROVERBS 20 VS 24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way? <<< LEADS ME TO WHERE THE MESSAGE IS. GUIDES YOUR STEP. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 1:14pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
Sarassin:Did the Jews joined the Magi to worship their stars? No. When Christ began his ministry, was there any reverence to the Magi who brought him gifts? No Did Christ remotely ascribe to any heavenly body? No. so, pls where is this Astrology coming from inside Christianity? Your arguments suggests that since Astrologers were even mentioned in our Scriptures, we must have a connection with them. If that's the case, we will have connections, with Diana of Ephesus, Delphi of Athens and all the gods Apostle Paul encountered on his Missionary journeys to the Asia Minor. Baal, Astherod Molech or Moloch, and many other gods where mentioned in the Bible, that didn't make the Jews worshippers of those gods. Those who did were punished severely. If you have noticed sir, The Holy Spirit insists everything both negative and positive about Gods people or the events which happened be recorded accordingly. God doesn't not hide any negative behaviors of his people. David sinned, we saw it. Solomom sinned, we saw it, Saul consulting demons, we saw it. Peter was a coward, we saw it. people who did wrong Jesus wrote against them. |
Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 1:21pm On Sep 16, 2017 |
sukkot:Hmmmm. Na waoo. Sukkot. God is a spirit. He speaks to us via our spirits. Every prophet had the Holy Spirit by anointing. That's why we today needs to be born again. Being born again is being alive in the spirit so that he can reach us. Being Born Again, is having his nature which will enable us hear him when he speaks. We don't need to see or Hear Him with our physical eyes and ears, if our spiritual ears are opened, we hear him. Anytime i meditate, i hear him like a friend talks to his Friend. Hellooooo. |
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