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| Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 4:47pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
IS IGBO MARGINALIZED? LET’S DISCUSS 15 Former Presidents of Nigeria, One Prime Minister 1. Tafawa Balewa- (Prime Minister) from Gere Tribe, Bauchi State 2. Nnamdi Azikwe – Igbo Tribe, Anambra State 3. Aguinyi Ironsi - Igbo Tribe, Abia State 4. Yakubu Gowon- Angas Tribe, Jos 5. Murtala Muhammaed-Hausa tribe, Kano State 6. Olusegun Obasanjo- Yoruba Tribe, Ogun State 7. Shehu Shagari- Fulani tribe, Sokoto State 8. Muhammadu Buhari- Fulani Tribe, Katsina State 9. Ibrahim Babangida- Nupe tribe, Niger State 10. Ernest Shonekan- Yoruba tribe, Ogun State 11. Sani Abacha - Kanuri tribe, Borno State 12. Abdulsalam Abubakar- Gwari tribe, Niger State 13. Olusegun Obasanjo- Yoruba tribe, Ogun state 14. Umaru Yaradua- Fulani tribe, Katsina State 15. Goodluck Jonathan- Ijaw tribe, Bayelsa state 16. Muhammadu Buhari- Fulani tribe, Katsina State We have 16 of them in total. 1 Hausa President, 2 Igbo, 3 Yoruba, 1 Gere tribe, 4 Fulani, 1 Angas, 1 Nupe, 1 Gwari, 1 Kanuri, 1 Ijaw In practice, Yoruba has only 2, Obasanjo and Shonekan, Igbo has 2, Azikwe and Ironsi, Fulani has 3, Buhari, Yaradua and Shagari, Hausa has only 1, Murtala, and Kanuri, Ijaw, Gere all have 1 each. Does this justify igbo claim of marginalization? Source of information: Wikipedia 11 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Afam4eva(m): 4:53pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
The thing about arguments is that i can pick any arguments no matter how ridiculous it sounds and give you reasons i think my argument thumps all others. That's exactly what you have done here and you're entitled to it. It's funny how you think that marginalization claims in 2017 has anything to do with the fact that we produced 2 presidents before the civil way when in fact, the marginalization started after the civil according to a lot of Igbos. Like i said it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. 15 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by madridguy(m): 4:54pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
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| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by deomelo: 4:59pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Ibo marginalization is not rooted in reality, but deeply rooted in the eyes of the beholder and the their finger pointing vision less and incompetent leaders blaming other people and regions for their shortcomings and incompetence. There's nothing missing in iboland that's available in Ekity, Oyo, Zamfara, Kebi, Yola, Kanu, Kaduna, Ogun, Kogi, Benue. Ibo marginalization is a reflection of their own ways and communal attitude towards other people. When you put your political eggs in one basket and refuse to align politically with people in other regions to achieve your objectives, you marginalize yourself. When you refuse to invest in your own land and prefer to beat your chest that you own everything in every corner of Nigeria, you marginalize yourself. When you wake up everyday to abuse and insult other people continuously while claiming you are the smartest, the richest, the bravest and so on, you marginalize yourself. I'm sure you get the gist. 54 Likes 5 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by deomelo: 5:00pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Afam4eva: You can do better by stating exactly how the SE is marginalized. Please educate us. 25 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by M7even(m): 5:01pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
marginalized for President or as a people. 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 5:02pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Abdulsalam is hausa while maradona is gwari,both from niger state and bros muritala was fulani. 1 Like |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Afam4eva(m): 5:02pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
deomelo:I won't do that because even if i do, like always you will counter it with points that you think are superior. On issues like this, let's just agree to disagree. 4 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by shukuokukobambi: 5:03pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Abeg me sef I'm marginalized. No minister from my village. Only 1 senator since and he spent only 3 months in 1983!!  10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 5:20pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Afam4eva: This is an opportunity for you to bring forth you arguement. As at the time of civil war, igbo had 2 presidents. Hausa has none, Yoruba has none, Fulani has none. Can we say igbo are marginalizing them at that period? If not, why is igbo claiming marginalization simply because other tribes are simply being represented as igbo had been represented? This is an open discussion. Feel free to bring forth your arguement. You are most welcome. One love 17 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 5:23pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
abdelrahman: Can you back this up by any fact? What was posted was based on their wikipedia profile.... i don't think you know them better than their profile says. Thanks 8 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 5:25pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
shukuokukobambi: We are having a serious discussion here please. |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 5:26pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms:no im not talking about wikipedia,that is their real ethnic,even muritala married a fulani yoruba woman. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Jesusloveyou: 5:27pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
All region are marginalised by the political class 8 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by shukuokukobambi: 5:29pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms: And my own complaint seems a joke right? Are you trying to marginalize me here again? 14 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 5:32pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Jesusloveyou: This is the truth i see, but maybe someone thinks otherwise. Let's hear them. I really want to reason with them based on issues 4 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 5:32pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
shukuokukobambi: No SIr. |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by shukuokukobambi: 5:33pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms: Thank you 1 Like |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by ibkayee(f): 5:34pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Very interested in responses *following* |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 5:40pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
I wish I could comment but I have gone tired of being ethnocentric, this current Daura disaster is the 1 causing most of our problems, we don't like him that's why we gave him minimal votes, the Afonja have never been our allies there always sell out and I am sure it's coz there think we will outshine them, a lot of things aren't in our favour, we are landlocked the geographical spread of our people and our political apathy, most of us like food is ready politics I hope the future is better otherwise our next best option is the clamour for restructuring, we are the state with the least constituencies, least local government and fewest state as it stands. The thing weak me |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Alariwo2: 5:44pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
They are very greedy SIMPLE! What good came out of GEJ (mainly Igbo cabinet) rule? Nothing. Instead they looted the country dry, stashing dollars away in foreign accounts, buying properties abroad amongst other atrocities. All these combined led the country into recession and almost collapsed our economy. Not a single road was constructed in the SE, not even repair works were carried out on any. And these dunces want us to blame APC and Buhari over GEJ. Foolish hypocrites. 22 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Afam4eva(m): 5:48pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms:Yes, it is true that Igbos are not the only marginalized groups. Almost every Nigerian is marginalized and this marginalization is the direct disconect between our respective leaders and the common people. I think that is an established fact. Now, when Igbos talk about marginalization, they're not talking about the marginalization that exist between Hausa and Yoruba leaders and their respective people because Igbos also have that. They're talking about the marginalization that exists between the federal government and Igbos specifically. Atleast we can all agree that Igbos makeup the third leg that this nation was built on as one of the 3 major ethnic groups. Now when we compare what accrues to the other two compared to the Igbos, you will understand what i'm talking about. I will just pick few areas to explain my point. In the first republic, Nigeria had 4 regions. The North, East, West and Mid West. Three of the four regions were in the south while one was in the north. Today that one region in the north now has 3 regions while the 3 regions in the south still remain with minor adjustments. The 3 regions in the north ave a total of 19 states while the regions in the south have a total of 17 states. Kano state alone has 44 local government and other states in the north also have more local governments compared with their commensurate states elsewhere in the country. The number of local government wouldn't have been an issue exceot for the fact that it being used for revenue allocation. Meaning that those 19 states in the north will have allocations each. The 44 local governments in kano will also have allocations each as well. As if that's not bad enough even our largest oil producing state of Imo has even less allocation than the average state in the north. Needless to say we have only 5 states, the lowest in all the regions and even the 5 states collect some of the lowest allocations in the federation. That's that. Now, another area is in the distribution of projects. Can you tell me why most military organizations or government institutions in Nigeria are in the north? Not even one in the east? Can you tell me why federal character benefits the north so much that every parastatal you work into is filled to the brim with northerners and this is the same people that governments says are educationally disadvantaged but are somehow at the top echelon of administrative conveniences in the country. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by RoyalUc(m): 5:48pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
In as much as I don't define marginalization by the number of Presidents to have come from a region or otherwise, in all sincerity, I do no agree that Igbos are marginalized. The nation seems to have been shared almost fairly to the three 'major tribes.' 'Major tribes' because those outside each tribe/region don't actually know who is who (to the Igbos, everybody from the North is Hausa. Same goes to the Hausas and Yorubas). And I think that's one of the reasons 'we' cry marginalizatoon. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 5:49pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms: Mr man, you are from Kwara state. What is your interest in this matter. Only today, there have been over 7 threads on igbos. I wonder whether nothing else can be discussed here but igbos/ipob/biafra. Oya, foolish igbos jump on the thread opened by a Yoruba busybody. |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 5:50pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
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| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by ERockson: 5:51pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Igbo hate fact and figure during any argument. I think they have also produced Vice presidents, Senate presidents more than any region of the country. During this present administration where they are badly bitter and feel highly marginalized, They have very good portfolio such as, Minister for Industry, Trade and investment, Foreign Affair, Labour and productivity, CBN, etc. Igbo are not marginalize in anyway to warrant all the kind of wailings from both their literates and illiterates. 14 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by deomelo: 6:00pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Afam4eva: Always taking the coward route. You obviously can not defend your post with an sane and rational views. If you can not argue or convincingly defend your views, why bother saying anything in the first place? This is a discussion forum so log off if you can not discuss. 5 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by deomelo: 6:02pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Piiko: this current Daura disaster Tired of being ethnocentric while spewing ignorant, tribalistic and bigoted ethnocentric rubbish. No 1 kobo sense. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 6:04pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
deomelo:has King of the North given any reasonable appointment to people of the South East minus ministers that the constitution makes mandatory, he is a disaster, very outdated and vengeful, I only like how he has curbed corruption, See how Afonjas are masturbating over the hacking to death of harmless IPOB members, Nigeria as it is is a sickening contraption many empty skulls spewing trash all over the cyber space 1 Share
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| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by bilms(m): 6:07pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
Piiko: But the east and the north went into coalition in 1960 to form the federal govt, leaving the west in opposition. If the east and west had went into coalition, they could have formed the govt too. So, When did the north stop liking the east? And why? 10 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Afam4eva(m): 6:08pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms:Civil war. I'm surprised that was so hard for you except you're just playing to the gallery like always. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is Igbo Really Marginalized? Let’s Discuss by Nobody: 6:20pm On Sep 17, 2017 |
bilms:The civil war was our undoing, but it was a necessary evil as Igbos were hacked to death in North in retaliation for Ironsi coup, the South west were also to declare a separate republic but Awolowo reneged and went to accept minister of finance portfolio thus selling out, funny enough Osinbajo is married to Awolowo granddaughter. The south westerners are not trustworthy so we don't trust them enough to enter into meaningful political alliances, I love my Yoruba ladies tho, most are beautiful and intelligent |
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