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Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 10:51am On Sep 21, 2017
Over and over again, christians keep saying that if atheists don't believe in God, why do they keep bashing God? If atheists don't believe the claims and teachings in christianity, why do we bother? This I shall address.

Atheists do not believe in God and are not angry at him. Why is that? It's because he doesn't exist. There are no atheists that are angry at God. Even if we were angry at God, it wouldn't be more or less than a batman fan being angry at joker. What we are angry at is the concept of God and the teachings and precepts of religion and how it influences and impact our beloved world.

Given we are not angry at God and we don't believe in christianity, why do we bother? If someone was spreading hiv to people's children and you knew, wouldn't you try to stop? What would you think of someone who could but didn't? christianity just like other world religions are being used to enslave the minds of people. It is being used to control, manipulate and exploit the masses. It costs people their lives. That's why until the last stone of the last church falls on the last preacher(conman), we will not rest.

Think of all the money people would have used for themselves, help the poor or fund scientific researches if they were not manipulated into giving by their christian god or pastors. Thunder fire you if you say they were not forced, how would someone who believes in God wholeheartedly not pay tithe when the money is available? undecided think of those who tried to use faith and prayer to deal with their cancer, hiv, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses medicine could have manage. Call them fools if you like, but know that not everyone is as hypocritical dishonest as you in your beliefs. What they did was okay by strict biblical standards except you want to kid yourself.

Their death is not worth it. It is one of the things we atheists want to avoid. Christians like them can be easily freed given that they are honest unlike hypocrites. If you knew a scam artist and you could stop him, wouldn't you try to stop him? If you knew something was holding your own specie from progress, wouldn't you try to stop it? These and many more and reasons why we can't let it be. Our conscience can't rest. Think about the crusades, 9/11, suicide bombings, the deceiving or manipulation of people that drugs aren't needed when sick since faith is sufficient, the sharia and tithes and offering etc. all are unnecessary and grave losses.

What if still religious folks don't want? Then speak for yourself. There are people that are grateful to nairaland atheist for freeing them from the shackles of religion and all the fears they had. Many ex-religious folks are happy that they are atheists and they know what it is like to be free. Think about the lives that would have been better if not for religious beliefs. It pains me when folks are crying, hopeless and suffering and they confide in their pastors who careless about them. So christians and other religious folks, we bother and won't let it be.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by superhumanist(m): 11:13am On Sep 21, 2017
Despite not being an atheist myself, I have always said it that atheists should keep on being outspoken. They do not know who they can touch. It was an atheist that saved me from being a crazy christian fundamentalist. I am now a deist.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 11:29am On Sep 21, 2017
superhumanist:
Despite not being an atheist myself, I have always said it that atheists should keep on being outspoken. They do not know who they can touch. It was an atheist that saved me from being a crazy christian fundamentalist. I am now a deist.
silent atheists are wicked. How can someone know the truth and won't spread?

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by felixomor: 11:44am On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
silent atheists are wicked. How can someone know the truth and won't spread?
Abeg which truth do atheists know?
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 11:55am On Sep 21, 2017
felixomor:

Abeg which truth do atheists know?
The truth that all religious gods and teachings are man made.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:02pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
Over and over again, christians keep saying that if atheists don't believe in God, why do they keep bashing God? If atheists don't believe the claims and teachings in christianity, why do we bother? This I shall address.

Atheists do not believe in God and are not angry at him. Why is that? It's because he doesn't exist. There are no atheists that are angry at God. Even if we were angry at God, it wouldn't be more or less than a batman fan being angry at joker. What we are angry at is the concept of God and the teachings and precepts of religion and how it influences and impact our beloved world.

Given we are not angry at God and we don't believe in christianity, why do we bother? If someone was spreading hiv to people's children and you knew, wouldn't you try to stop? What would you think of someone who could but didn't? christianity just like other world religions are being used to enslave the minds of people. It is being used to control, manipulate and exploit the masses. It costs people their lives. That's why until the last stone of the last church falls on the last preacher(conman), we will not rest.

Think of all the money people would have used for themselves, help the poor or fund scientific researches if they were not manipulated into giving by their christian god or pastors. Thunder fire you if you say they were not forced, how would someone who believes in God wholeheartedly not pay tithe when the money is available? undecided think of those who tried to use faith and prayer to deal with their cancer, hiv, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses medicine could have manage. Call them fools if you like, but know that not everyone is as hypocritical dishonest as you in your beliefs. What they did was okay by strict biblical standards except you want to kid yourself.

Their death is not worth it. It is one of the things we atheists want to avoid. Christians like them can be easily freed given that they are honest unlike hypocrites. If you knew a scam artist and you could stop him, wouldn't you try to stop him? If you knew something was holding your own specie from progress, wouldn't you try to stop it? These and many more and reasons why we can't let it be. Our conscience can't rest. Think about the crusades, 9/11, suicide bombings, the deceiving or manipulation of people that drugs aren't needed when sick since faith is sufficient, the sharia and tithes and offering etc. all are unnecessary and grave losses.

What if still religious folks don't want? Then speak for yourself. There are people that are grateful to nairaland atheist for freeing them from the shackles of religion and all the fears they had. Many ex-religious folks are happy that they are atheists and they know what it is like to be free. Think about the lives that would have been better if not for religious beliefs. It pains me when folks are crying, hopeless and suffering and they confide in their pastors who careless about them. So christians and other religious folks, we bother and won't let it be.

HopefulLandlord, hahn, HardMirror, 1Sharon, Johnydon22, 0temAtum, catfishbilly, butterflylion, felixomor, deicide, Oliverpope, jiggaz, lightblazingnow, KingEbukasBlog, lepasharon etc. Your contributions will be appreciated.

What do you mean by "the concept of God". If you say God is a concept and you are angry at the concept of God yet not angry at God it's rather confusing. grin

So what is this your "the concept of God " you mentioned.

Are you alluding that there is a God but "the concept" you are angry with does not exist but the one that isn't a concept does? cheesy

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by bloodofthelamb(m): 12:06pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
silent atheists are wicked. How can someone know the truth and won't spread?
CHRIST IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE...HE IS THE LIGHT....OUR PURPOSE AND DESTINY IS TO REFLECT AND MANIFEST HIM.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 12:16pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


What do you mean by "the concept of God". If you say God is a concept and you are angry at the concept of God yet not angry at God it's rather confusing. grin

So what is this your "the concept of God " you mentioned.

Are you alluding that there is a God but "the concept" you are angry with does not exist but the one that isn't a concept does? cheesy
I don't believe in any religious gods but I am inconclusive of the existence of a creator God. What I mean by the concept of God is the construction and characteristics of a supreme being by world religions.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by dalaman: 12:17pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


What do you mean by "the concept of God". If you say God is a concept and you are angry at the concept of God yet not angry at God it's rather confusing. grin

So what is this your "the concept of God " you mentioned.

Are you alluding that there is a God but "the concept" you are angry with does not exist but the one that isn't a concept does? cheesy

A concept from the dictionary means: something conceived in the mind, thought or notion. God is a concept of the human mind that is why there are different Gods and different religions borne out of the various concepts of God people have. God can not be shown to exist on its own without human input. Your own God is a concept created by the ancient Jews. Until you point to your God existing on its own and displaying his independent abilities on its own you shouldn't expect anybody to take you seriously. And pls don't come and start crying that your God is an experience because we know what delusion is .

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:24pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
I don't believe in any religious gods but I am inconclusive of the existence of a creator God. What I mean by the concept of God is the construction and characteristics of a supreme being by world religions.


So you somehow know there is a God but you just do not align with the one you know that people worship which is what you term as "the concept of God".

Since you are "inconclusive " why not wait until you are conclusive before you rate yourself an atheist and before you say certain things.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:26pm On Sep 21, 2017
dalaman:


A concept from the dictionary means: something conceived in the mind, thought or notion. God is a concept of the human mind that is why there are different Gods and different religions borne out of the various concepts of God people have. God can not be shown to exist on its own without human input. Your own God is a concept created by the ancient Jews. Until you point to your God existing on its own and displaying his independent abilities on its own you shouldn't expect anybody to take you seriously. And pls don't come and start crying that your God is an experience because we know what delusion is .




FYI my question was not about a dictionary definition and neither was it directed at you.

I specifically directed it at the OP and even he knows I was not asking for dictionary definition of the word "concept".

Thank you for trying to take over the gist but no thanks.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by felixomor: 12:32pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
The truth that all religious gods and teachings are man made.
According to u man made god.. Abi?

So who made the first man on earth?
Or who designed the dna of the first living cell?
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 12:39pm On Sep 21, 2017
felixomor:

According to u man made god.. Abi?

So who made the first man on earth?
Or who designed the dna of the first living cell?
the origin of the universe is unknown and scientists are working on it. Not knowing is not an excuse to embrace absurd fairly tales. It is also not a bad thing to admit you don't know.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 12:42pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:



So you somehow know there is a God but you just do not align with the one you know that people worship which is what you term as "the concept of God".

Since you are "inconclusive " why not wait until you are conclusive before you rate yourself an atheist and before you say certain things.
*facepalms* being inconclusive means that I don't know whether a God exists or not. I don't know whether there is a God or not.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by UncleTee3Odds: 12:43pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


FYI my question was not about a dictionary definition and neither was it directed at you.

I specifically directed it at the OP and even he knows I was not asking for dictionary definition of the word "concept".

Thank you for trying to take over the gist but no thanks.
My account was banned and my thread deleted. All thanks to you.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:53pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
*facepalms* being inconclusive means that I don't know whether a God exists or not. I don't know whether there is a God or not.

Being inconclusive means there COULD be and there COULD not be. It's 50/50 so you are 50% sure there is a God and 50% sure there might not be.

That's what inconclusive means.

I am referring to the 50% that says "there could be a God" cheesy
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 12:54pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


FYI my question was not about a dictionary definition and neither was it directed at you.

I specifically directed it at the OP and even he knows I was not asking for dictionary definition of the word "concept".

Thank you for trying to take over the gist but no thanks.
the meaning of words by an English-speaking man are seen in the dictionary. When it comes to words, I and dalaman are in agreement with the dictionary.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:54pm On Sep 21, 2017
UncleTee3Odds:
My account was banned and my thread deleted. All thanks to you.

Who be this one and how does your thread concern me?
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by felixomor: 12:55pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
the origin of the universe is unknown and scientists are working on it. Not knowing is not an excuse to embrace absurd fairly tales. It is also not a bad thing to admit you don't know.

Hehehehehe, first thing is that I asked you for origin of first man, you switched to origin of universe..... grin
2ndly, you say you admit you dont know, yet your first comment said atheist knows.....

Abeg, let me just rest here...
The confusion has already started showing grin

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 12:58pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
the meaning of words by are English-speaking man are seen in the dictionary. When it comes to words, I and dalaman are in agreement with the dictionary.

Triple facepalm smh

This was my question to you

What do you mean by "the concept of God". If you say God is a concept and you are angry at the concept of God yet not angry at God it's rather confusing. grin

So what is this your "the concept of God " you mentioned
.

As you can see I was not about concept but what YOUR IDEA OF AN ACCEPTABLE GOD would look like since you hate "the concept of God" you see being worshipped.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 12:58pm On Sep 21, 2017
felixomor:


Hehehehehe, first thing is that I asked you for origin of first man, you switched to origin of universe..... grin
2ndly, you say you admit you dont know, yet your first comment said atheist knows.....

Abeg, let me just rest here...
The confusion has already started showing grin
our the modern man came to be is seen in evolution. The origin of it all is unknown. What we know is that all religious gods and teachings are man made.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by UncleTee3Odds: 1:01pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Who be this one and how does your thread concern me?
You and analice. Your account was banned too shocked
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2017
UncleTee3Odds:
You and analice. Your account was banned too shocked

Who the hell is this one?
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by felixomor: 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
our the modern man came to be is seen in evolution. The origin of it all is unknown. What we know is that all religious gods and teachings are man made.

Sorry, the origin is unknown to you because you dont know God.
And you dont want to know God because you love sinful life. Simple.

Meanwhile, If I tell you to give me evidence of how man made the first religious god now, you will start swimming swimming grin
Or the name of the scientist who confirmed that religious god was invented by man, you will start dribbling like Messi grin
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by vaxx: 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
Over and over again, christians keep saying that if atheists don't believe in God, why do they keep bashing God? If atheists don't believe the claims and teachings in christianity, why do we bother? This I shall address.

Atheists do not believe in God and are not angry at him. Why is that? It's because he doesn't exist. There are no atheists that are angry at God. Even if we were angry at God, it wouldn't be more or less than a batman fan being angry at joker. What we are angry at is the concept of God and the teachings and precepts of religion and how it influences and impact our beloved world.

Given we are not angry at God and we don't believe in christianity, why do we bother? If someone was spreading hiv to people's children and you knew, wouldn't you try to stop? What would you think of someone who could but didn't? christianity just like other world religions are being used to enslave the minds of people. It is being used to control, manipulate and exploit the masses. It costs people their lives. That's why until the last stone of the last church falls on the last preacher(conman), we will not rest.

Think of all the money people would have used for themselves, help the poor or fund scientific researches if they were not manipulated into giving by their christian god or pastors. Thunder fire you if you say they were not forced, how would someone who believes in God wholeheartedly not pay tithe when the money is available? undecided think of those who tried to use faith and prayer to deal with their cancer, hiv, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses medicine could have manage. Call them fools if you like, but know that not everyone is as hypocritical dishonest as you in your beliefs. What they did was okay by strict biblical standards except you want to kid yourself.

Their death is not worth it. It is one of the things we atheists want to avoid. Christians like them can be easily freed given that they are honest unlike hypocrites. If you knew a scam artist and you could stop him, wouldn't you try to stop him? If you knew something was holding your own specie from progress, wouldn't you try to stop it? These and many more and reasons why we can't let it be. Our conscience can't rest. Think about the crusades, 9/11, suicide bombings, the deceiving or manipulation of people that drugs aren't needed when sick since faith is sufficient, the sharia and tithes and offering etc. all are unnecessary and grave losses.

What if still religious folks don't want? Then speak for yourself. There are people that are grateful to nairaland atheist for freeing them from the shackles of religion and all the fears they had. Many ex-religious folks are happy that they are atheists and they know what it is like to be free. Think about the lives that would have been better if not for religious beliefs. It pains me when folks are crying, hopeless and suffering and they confide in their pastors who careless about them. So christians and other religious folks, we bother and won't let it be.

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so you have ultimately conclude and hence think believing in God is our major problem or religion?

you can't erase religion ....religion is the first to explain what is unknown to man before science did it ....whether you like it or not religion will continue to shape our future and life positively and negatively....... you can't remove the concept of examination just because students cheat in the exams hall. what you should do as a logical person is to make cheating unattractive and reward serious student so others may learn. .......if the concept of God is remove, the concept of sin will reign.......you can't cut your head for having headache, what you should do is to look for drug to cure it....... in the community of the saint there is always a black sheep.

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Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 1:04pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
our the modern man came to be is seen in evolution. The origin of it all is unknown. What we know is that all religious gods and teachings are man made.

Can you show me proof of your claim by pointing to the very first man who "fabricated the religious gods idea"?

I want to you to trace him via history and end at where he first emerged with this idea.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 1:06pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Triple facepalm smh

This was my question to you

What do you mean by "the concept of God". If you say God is a concept and you are angry at the concept of God yet not angry at God it's rather confusing. grin

So what is this your "the concept of God " you mentioned
.

As you can see I was not about concept but what YOUR IDEA OF AN ACCEPTABLE GOD would look like since you hate "the concept of God" you see being worshipped.
the concept of God was made by man. You are talking as if there must be a God. There are various concept of God by different religions. We can agree at that.

The concept of God refers to the construction and characteristics of God as put by a religion. Chai
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by UncleTee3Odds: 1:07pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Who the hell is this one?
Your nightmare. Greetings to you sir, Oloriburuku Asslicker. Have a nice day. *Bye*
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by dalaman: 1:07pm On Sep 21, 2017
vaxx:


you can't erase religion ....religion is the first to explain what is unknown to man before science did it ...


Religious explanations are not accu rate, true and objective. They are mostly mythical explanations.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 1:11pm On Sep 21, 2017
Martinez19:
the concept of God was made by man. You are talking as if there must be a God. There are various concept of God by different religions. We are agree at that.

The concept of God refers to the construction and characteristics of God as put by a religion. Chai



Can you show me proof of your claim by pointing to the very first man who "fabricated the religious gods idea"?

I want to you to trace him via history and end at where he first emerged with this idea
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by Martinez19(m): 1:13pm On Sep 21, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Can you show me proof of your claim by pointing to the very first man who "fabricated the religious gods idea"?

I want to you to trace him via history and end at where he first emerged with this idea.
It's impossible to trace the first person who started this God shit. There are no detailed records of that time. Evidences point to the fact that the claims of the bible are not true. The same goes with world religions. Use common sense nah.
Re: Why Do The Atheists Bother If They Don't Believe? Here Is Why. by butterflyl1on: 1:15pm On Sep 21, 2017
UncleTee3Odds:
Your nightmare. Greetings to you sir, Oloriburuku Asslicker. Have a nice day. *Bye*

My nightmare when I no dey sleep grin

Mr 1 billion monikers who loves necrophilia have you surfaced with another one of your many monikers as reciprokal and analice already exposed you had?

You keep confirming their stories about you all by yourself. cheesy

From oloruntobi4382 now it's UncleTee3Odds

E ku ishe moniker o. grin

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