Martinez19:
Over and over again, christians keep saying that if atheists don't believe in God, why do they keep bashing God? If atheists don't believe the claims and teachings in christianity, why do we bother? This I shall address.

Atheists do not believe in God and are not angry at him. Why is that? It's because he doesn't exist. There are no atheists that are angry at God. Even if we were angry at God, it wouldn't be more or less than a batman fan being angry at joker. What we are angry at is the concept of God and the teachings and precepts of religion and how it influences and impact our beloved world.

Given we are not angry at God and we don't believe in christianity, why do we bother? If someone was spreading hiv to people's children and you knew, wouldn't you try to stop? What would you think of someone who could but didn't? christianity just like other world religions are being used to enslave the minds of people. It is being used to control, manipulate and exploit the masses. It costs people their lives. That's why until the last stone of the last church falls on the last preacher(conman), we will not rest.

Think of all the money people would have used for themselves, help the poor or fund scientific researches if they were not manipulated into giving by their christian god or pastors. Thunder fire you if you say they were not forced, how would someone who believes in God wholeheartedly not pay tithe when the money is available? think of those who tried to use faith and prayer to deal with their cancer, hiv, multiple sclerosis and other illnesses medicine could have manage. Call them fools if you like, but know that not everyone is as hypocritical dishonest as you in your beliefs. What they did was okay by strict biblical standards except you want to kid yourself.

Their death is not worth it. It is one of the things we atheists want to avoid. Christians like them can be easily freed given that they are honest unlike hypocrites. If you knew a scam artist and you could stop him, wouldn't you try to stop him? If you knew something was holding your own specie from progress, wouldn't you try to stop it? These and many more and reasons why we can't let it be. Our conscience can't rest. Think about the crusades, 9/11, suicide bombings, the deceiving or manipulation of people that drugs aren't needed when sick since faith is sufficient, the sharia and tithes and offering etc. all are unnecessary and grave losses.

What if still religious folks don't want? Then speak for yourself. There are people that are grateful to nairaland atheist for freeing them from the shackles of religion and all the fears they had. Many ex-religious folks are happy that they are atheists and they know what it is like to be free. Think about the lives that would have been better if not for religious beliefs. It pains me when folks are crying, hopeless and suffering and they confide in their pastors who careless about them. So christians and other religious folks, we bother and won't let it be.

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superhumanist:
Despite not being an atheist myself, I have always said it that atheists should keep on being outspoken. They do not know who they can touch. It was an atheist that saved me from being a crazy christian fundamentalist. I am now a deist.

jiggaz:
My face the whole time while reading this post...

Martinez19:
hahaha.

jiggaz:
Martin plz accept Christ, am serious oo.

KinzyeWriter:
Yes... Atheists have work to do.

STUPUDTHEISTS:


Smoking me a good joint here, I'm not sure I've dissed you yet. What happened during the medieval period. Do I have to remind you I'm not your church brother?

Samsimple:

oga martinez no mind them

STUPUDTHEISTS:


Smoking me a good joint here, I'm not sure I've dissed you yet. What happened during the medieval period. Do I have to remind you I'm not your church brother?

vaxx:
reread my post.

STUPUDTHEISTS:


Your post didn't address that. Perhaps you should paste it here — how religion progressed science during the Middle ages. The way I see it, you don't have an inkling of what you're saying.

STUPUDTHEISTS:
@Vaxx, I expect to hear from you. Those scientific discoveries — as you claimed — that were progressed by religion during the medieval period. You have a big job to do here, good luck

Y'all Christian niqqaz ain't gon' quit lying for Yeshua

vaxx:
you are entitled to your opinion. you dare me. I make a result. defeat it bro that will make you a very smart dude atheist claim they are. am not surprised at all on your response.....you have nothing to say anymore.

STUPUDTHEISTS:


This guy, I'm really restraining myself from describing you with words you regards as insult, and you've not been helping matter. You said the middle age witnessed religion advancing science. I know this is not true, being someone who is well informed of what happened during those years. So I asked you to go ahead and give examples of those discoveries, then you started foaming — probably because you made a false claim and lacks evidence to adduce for it. There's nothing for me to argue against since you've not mention a single scientific discovery that religion progressed, but we have myriads of evidence that limned how religion empoisoned and slowed scientific progress. What are you on about mate? Please save me some effort if you ain't got no clue. HAGN

vaxx:
I have given you more than enough evidence. deals with it bro. mummification was a development that surpass embalming method. this development is to preserve the Egyptian s king because they are consider gods.


likewise abacus system. a calculating device was introduce in medieval time by pagans to calculate the tax levy against the citizens.


just to mention some few.

vaxx:
you can continue bashing me with insult if that will make you feel comfortable. I have learnt to be mentally balance. I don't reply insult with insult.


if you need enlightenment, am ready to help .

STUPUDTHEISTS:


So these are the scientific discoveries? Lol

Be that as it may, how has these got anything to do with religion? Ancient Egyptians also made toothpaste then, was religion behind that too? It's important to note that the first cases of mummy in ancient Egypt happened naturally — they buried their dead in pit graves which are shallow, this allows for the hot dry desert sand to dry the body. Is this what you consider as religion progressing science?

Please don't say this elsewhere, abacus wasn't invented by pagans — even if that was the case — asserting that because they were pagans so paganism made them achieve that is a fallacy. Go to Google and type butterfly logic —a logical fallacy. It goes like this: A is associated with B, so A causes B; Many homosexuals have aids therefore homosexuality causes aids. This sums your argument. I won't indulge you further if you can't acknowledge the fault in your line of reasoning.

STUPUDTHEISTS:


So these are the scientific discoveries? Lol

Be that as it may, how has these got anything to do with religion? Ancient Egyptians also made toothpaste then, was religion behind that too? It's important to note that the first cases of mummy in ancient Egypt happened naturally — they buried their dead in pit graves which are shallow, this allows for the hot dry desert sand to dry the body. Is this what you consider as religion progressing science?

Please don't say this elsewhere, abacus wasn't invented by pagans — even if that was the case — asserting that because they were pagans so paganism made them achieve that is a fallacy. Go to Google and type butterfly logic —a logical fallacy. It goes like this: A is associated with B, so A causes B; Many homosexuals have aids therefore homosexuality causes aids. This sums your argument. I won't indulge you further if you can't acknowledge the fault in your line of reasoning.

STUPUDTHEISTS:


What a circus clown! Someone who thinks religion progressed and aided science by mentioning mummification is talking of enlightenment

adepeter2027:

IF I'm having a discussion with a religious person and he/she makes the above blunder in bold, I would just give up

STUPUDTHEISTS:


Man, I'm so gutted. I thought the guy was different from Felix and his cronies. He said — and foolishly restated, even when shown to be wrong — that religion started mummification. Lol

I've been wasting my time on the wrong person.

vaxx:
like I said , go back and learn for devil sake......this your mentality of I know it all is very dangerous.......go back and learn why mummification is practice in Egypt?

ignorance is what is written over you.

adepeter2027:

IF I'm having a discussion with a religious person and he/she makes the above blunder in bold, I would just give up

STUPUDTHEISTS:


Stop quoting me please. I dread sharing the cyber space with super reta`r`ded, blithely ignorant and annoyingly stubborn nitwits like you. You had the chance for a confabulation but you blew it. Adios dumbass.

Martinez19:
@vaxx, you claimed religious progress aids scientific advancement. STUPUDTHEISTS said it's not true and that even though a scientist maybe religious, his scientific discoveries are in no way dependent and facilitated by religious beliefs. He holds that irrespective of the religious stance of the scientist, religious beliefs are not involved in scientific discoveries neither do they facilitate/aid them.

AnonyNymous:

Can't you remember the religious person we had that particular discussion with? And he still kept saying he was right while covertly trying to shift the goal post?

Martinez19:
*facepalms* being inconclusive means that I don't know whether a God exists or not. I don't know whether there is a God or not.

Martinez19:
The truth that all religious gods and teachings are man made.