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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 12:58pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Let me clear things up. Scale of 1 to 10 Where 10 is the difference between Barcelona and Eyimba and 1 is the difference between Roma and Napoli, the difference between both Manchester sides is <1 If we are to go by what you preach on this forum, Pep is at least 5 levels above Mourinho. Shouldn't the difference in managerial expertise compensate for the negligible difference between both squads? P.s I actually don't agree that united have the better squad, but no be that one I dey now 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bville02(m): 1:06pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: Baba Dayo is just playing his cards skeptically.. If he'd pick man city now and they didn't end up winning the title. Every one here will come for head.. He picked Man Utd now. Because he want take his time and make sure man city is no doubt going to win the title and that will confirm his early stance that Age is the thing affecting the club's performances. If Man Utd win the title too.. It's a Win-win for him too because he had already predicted it now.. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:06pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
hehehe |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:07pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: Why will the difference between Pep and Mourinho be 5? On the contrary I think you should be the one who rates Pep 5 places below Mourinho he has repeatedly been called a fraud Of all active coaches aside Ancelotti who has 3 CL, Pep Zidane and Mourinho have 2 CL each. So if you say Mourinho is 5 levels below Pep, then who are the coaches in between? Seems you people just assign meanings to anything you read irrationally Before either Pep or Mourinho resumed their jobs I stated clearly that Man Utd has the better squad |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 1:08pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter: so that Man City team isn't settled? or what are you saying, didn't they just trash a team 6nil and put 5 past Liverpool, they have the same number of points, scored the same number of goals with Man Utd but it's just Man Utd that is settled? how so? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:09pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Bville02: Go and check my posts on Man Utd thread before last season started I stated clearly that Man utd has the better squad and they are younger too. I still maintain the same position now |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:10pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:lol. So what realistically is the difference between Pep and Mourinho? Whatever it is, it is surely greater than the difference between both squads. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:10pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Young players in both man city and man united. Man City: Gabriel Jesus 21, Sane21, Sterling22, Bernando Silva23, John Stones22, Benj. Mendy23, De Bruyne26, Gundagon27, Walker27, Danilo26, Delph27, Eduardo23 Man United: Rashford19, Lingard24, Lukaku24, Pogba24, Shaw23, Baily24, Victor22, De Gea26, Smalling27, Phil Jones27, Herrera27 Yep younger players in both teams to fight for a shirt in starting line up, man city features more of them that are ave. younger to man united. QED 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:11pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
dopeJemi: City has made too many changes and buys recently and it will take them time to settle. Man Utd in the last 2 seasons bought like 6 players, thats like half the number City bought in the last 2 seasons so its obvious Man utd has the more settled squad |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:12pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: If thats your position then fine, Dont be coming back in the future to say I was the one who rated Mou 5 levels below Pep when it was you |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:13pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Bville02:In simple terms he doesn't trust Pep |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:14pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:You never answer the real question. The difference between both managers and the difference between both sides which is greater? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:16pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
BlueAngel444: Can you include the time those players got to each of the team to know which team is more settled and which is in transition Of those you listed for Cty, 10 of them joined in the last 2 seasons while for Man utd only 4 joined in the last 2 seasons |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:16pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:isn't success supposed to have a direct correlation with money spent, ideally. Since when did spending more money become more of a disadvantage? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:16pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: The difference between the squad, man utd has a better squad, I said this before the kickoff last season |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:17pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: Money spent needs time. Thats why City or PSG havent won the CL thats why it took almost 10yrs of consistent spending for Chelsea to win the CL If PSG and City also continue spending at current level for the next 5 years they will also win the CL Its like saying because I have been overfeeding a skinny man last week, he should be fat already today. As a medical student if your patient comes to you with that question what will you tell him 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:18pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter: This will take us back to the original argument. And it is not true. The difference between both sides is negligible. It can be argued. Pep on the other hand is better than Mourinho, no argument there. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:21pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Let me wait and see where this Tango Argentino will end? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:22pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico: To me the difference between both sides isnt negligible, in isolation they might be, but considering the time theyve spent in each team and blended together they are not. A group of players need time to blend. get 2 equally talented team one that has blended over time and one that is new, then you will know the difference is huge Pep on the other hand is better than Mourinho, no argument there. Just remember this is your position not mine. probably 5 levels below Pep |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:26pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Pep has more titles and match victories than Mou since the year 2008 i do believe. Scratch that, Pep Vs Mou Epl 2016/2017 Pep wins. Squad Aguero > Lukaku G. Jesus > Rashford Sane > Martial Sterling >> Lingard (maybe it should be Sane here Sterling there, whatever) Debruyne > Pobga David Silva > Mhki Bernando Silva < Mata Matic > Fernandinho Stones > Jones Kompany > Smalling Benjamy Mendy > Shaw + Darmain Walker = Valencia De Gea > Eduardo Baily > Otamendi You know the rest, argue with your self! 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:30pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:sky bet for example had city as favorites. If you browse through various bookies, you will see it alternating between city and United with city probably having the edge. This lends credence to the fact that the difference between both squads is negligible. Is the difference between Mourinho and pep negligible too or even less? I had a wrong impression, time for you to correct it 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:35pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
PietroRico:More people placed a bet on Man Utd to win the league than any club MANCHESTER UNITED will win the Premier League this season if the amount of bets placed with Ladbrokes is anything to go by. Why should I correct your impression |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:36pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Man city got 5 players just before the start of the season also Man United got 4 players. Let's play logic! Lukaku and Matic (not in that my list anyway) are settled in Epl while man city have only walker. Your agree your shifting the argument from age to settlement, (note: therefore you agree Man City have the younger squad whether they are bought or stolen) THE MORE SETTLED TEAM Should go to Man United, Mou and his players have more EPL experience while Man City is a young squad. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:36pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:37pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 1:38pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter: how can an unsettled team go 7 games without losing, same point and goals with a team that's settled? how does that add up Dayokanu? it is not a fact that it takes time to settle when you buy lots of players, neither is it a fact that that it takes lesser time to settle when you buy fewer players, Van gaal bought Di Maria, Shaw, Herrera but still wasn't settled both teams have won the same number of games, have the same number of points, scored the same number of goals and you say one is unsettled because of the number of players they added, the stat doesn't show they are unsettled, they can't have the same numbers with a settled team and still be unsettled, is it when they start losing they will become settled? because I don't quite get your logic, if they are unsettled it should be showing in their games not the number of players they bought and right now it isn't 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:38pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter:I would rather go with bookmakers that use objective tools to come up with odds than plenty naive gamblers out there. Then again what is the difference between united and city? You didn't answer a question. Is the difference between pep and Mourinho negligible? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:39pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
diggz:How was Man City more stable than Man United? They both lost their managers and players. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 1:40pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
Afrodoc |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:41pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter: 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:42pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
raumdeuter: 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:44pm On Sep 22, 2017 |
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