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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:10pm On Sep 29, 2017
Sir you just spoke my mind 100%

terzurum5:

Great Suggestion and a step in the right direction too.

However,

**Modified**
Just like Sir eterisan said, TheSuperNerd and co will have to tender an unreserved apology to the house for insulting us with their e-fight. Both were matured enough to behave matured and not blame the whole house for not calling them to order.


In addition, TheSuperNerd named this great thread. The thread belongs to all of us. However, the manner in which he left the thread is not cool. I am not against opening a new thread by him. But the timing and the occasion that prompted it is questionable. Why would he leave the project he started as if all of us offended him. TheSuperNerd remains my great friend just like any other person in here, so I deem it fit to come heavily on him before any other person.


Once more, I am not against any reconciliatory measure but wouldn't encourage unhealthy precedents to be maintained on this thread.

**Peace**

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:16pm On Sep 29, 2017
you are making a good case.

But this is how I like to think. As a coach I would prioritize. I would as myself, where do we have a pressing need? Or what can we add to the team that will take us another level higher? Is there anything we can add that can make the difference especially if we met a very strong side in future? I will start to work it down from attack to defense until i'm satisfied with the bench as well, because I know for sure that there would be definitely one slot or two that can be reserved for a "rookie". Let's not put the cart before the horse. We don't expect Nwakali to sub Mikel at the world cup.


TheGoodJoe:


There are roles you can easily groom. Keeper role for instance. Two of the best keeper and a young talented one for the future.

At the moment, Ezenwa, Dele Ajiboye and young Alampasu. Which makes calling Akpeyi to camp funny.

Midfield maestros. These guys make or break teams. From Xavi, Scholes, Pirlo and Zidane. They make teams reign long at the top level. This is where Nwakali falls.

After that, prolific young talents that show extreme special talents. K. Nwakali has shown this since he was called up at a very young age to train with Iheanacho's U17 team. Two years later he was captain and best player of the winning side of the U17 World Cup. That was foresight from the Garba led coaching crew.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Sep 29, 2017
Joebie:
you are making a good case.

But this is how I like to think. As a coach I would prioritize. I would as myself, where do we have a pressing need? Or what can we add to the team that will take us another level higher? Is there anything we can add that can make the difference especially if we met a very strong side in future? I will start to work it down from attack to defense until i'm satisfied with the bench as well, because I know for sure that there would be definitely one slot or two that can be reserved for a "rookie". Let's not put the cart before the horse. We don't expect Nwakali to sub Mikel at the world cup.



We need him gaining orientation from a master player now. Not when he will sub Mikel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:21pm On Sep 29, 2017
Mikel wont disappear after the world cup.. I promise you he still has at least 5 years more in him. There will be enough time for grooming Russia or not.
If Nwakali makes the rookie slot, so be it. But my point is, first things first.

TheGoodJoe:


We need him gaining orientation from a master player now. Not when he will sub Mikel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:22pm On Sep 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


With Hope Akpan, we had a shield who could protect the defence and on the right back role, Onazi looked blazing, using his work rate to cover the length of the right side of the pitch. It also helped his runs not creating much gap in the defence.

Hope Akpan's injury was one of the areas I believed stopped us from qualifying. Although Musa's misses contributed the most.
yes Musa was d worst culprit.He mess d match up,two well laid passes by Mikel just a keeper to beat.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:29pm On Sep 29, 2017
Joebie:
Wonderful stats. The previous season, Ogu was voted the best player in Israel. But that didn't catch Rohr's attention for a reason.
John Ogu is not new to us. Let's just assume he has improved, but it's still the Israeli league. He is in the set up now. If he can't beat Agu to it, then I don't think he has any business going to Russia


Nwakaeme not Ogu was voted best player in Israel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:32pm On Sep 29, 2017
Sir, I was talking about the previous season.. Ogu was named the best in the 15/16 season. Nwakaeme the following season (16/17).. I can confirm that.

Modified
Best foreign player rather -- John Ogu (15/16)
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4110/african-all-stars/2016/05/20/23742402/john-ogu-named-best-foreign-player-in-israeli-premier-league

tbaba1234:


Nwakaeme not Ogu was voted best player in Israel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:35pm On Sep 29, 2017
But how come we always read that Ogu does well in training but never used by Rohr? The Ogu that I have watched in the SE should be the one playing if not in the first 11 but as the next sub for anyone in the midfield.
Joebie:
Wonderful stats. The previous season, Ogu was voted the best player in Israel. But that didn't catch Rohr's attention for a reason.
John Ogu is not new to us. Let's just assume he has improved, but it's still the Israeli league. He is in the set up now. If he can't beat Agu to it, then I don't think he has any business going to Russia

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:38pm On Sep 29, 2017
That's not a mystery. What the coach sees is not necessarily what reporters see. Also, tactical decisions are made based on the situation of the match at that point in time, and what the coach is trying to achieve. Let's see if Rohr will consider Ogu ahead of Agu next time


somehow:
But how come we always read that Ogu does well in training but never used by Rohr? The Ogu that I have watched in the SE should be the one playing if not in the first 11 but as the next sub for anyone in the midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 6:45pm On Sep 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


No need making the reason hidden. PARK BUS.


Who cares if we park trailer... All we need is result and qualify for Russia 2018... Atleast we won't the first to park trailer to win ...you can ask MOU
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:49pm On Sep 29, 2017
Ex-Nigeria U20 Invitee May Debut For Eagles Against Manchester United



Published: September 29, 2017
Ex-Nigeria U20 Invitee May Debut For Eagles Against Manchester UnitedCrystal Palace manager Roy Hodgson has hinted that former Flying Eagles invitee Freddie Ladapo may make his first-team debut when they face Manchester United in the Premier League on Saturday.

Ahead of the trip to Old Trafford, injuries have hit the Eagles squad, with former Liverpool man Christian Benteke, Wilfried Zaha, Ruben Loftus-Cheek and James Tomkins not available for selection.

Netherlands international Timothy Fosu-Mensah is also out of the reckoning as he can't play against his parent club.

''He’s been training with the first team for quite a while. He’s a good athlete and hard worker,'' said Hodgson.

''He is an unknown quality having not played many games and in the current situation where we don’t have the cover or the back up, he is a centre forward and training well so that puts him in the frame.''

Freddie Ladapo joined Crystal Palace from Margate in 2016, and spent last season on loan at Oldham Athletic and Shrewsbury Town.

The 24-year-old was on the bench against Huddersfield Town on match day one.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

Photo Credit : cpfc.co.uk

--AllNigeriaSoccer
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 6:51pm On Sep 29, 2017
Mickael2:



so we should sacrifice one spot in our team just because we want to 'groom' a future player?
yes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:53pm On Sep 29, 2017
There are Hawks and there are Vultures:

Southampton Strikers Obafemi & Afolabi Named In Ireland U19 Squad
Published: September 29, 2017


Photo Credit : southamptonfc.com

Southampton Strikers Obafemi & Afolabi Named In Ireland U19 Squad Republic of Ireland U19 Head Coach Tom Mohan has named two players of Nigerian descent in the roster for the forthcoming UEFA U19 Championships Qualifying Round mini-tournament.

Southampton strikers Michael Obafemi and Jonathan Afolabi have been called up for international duty ahead of games against Azerbaijan, Greece and Serbia.

Republic of Ireland U19s face Azerbaijan on October 4, then meet Greece on October 7, before they wrap up their schedule against Serbia at the RSC on October 10.

The Irish will be hoping to qualify for the 2018 UEFA European Under-19 Championship, which will be hosted by Finland from July 16-29 next summer.

Obafemi has scored 3 goals from 7 appearances for Southampton's youth teams in the current season, while Afolabi has found the net twice in 9 appearances.

The two 17-year-olds signed scholarship deals with Southampton in July 2016.

Igho Kingsley

--AllNigeriaSoccer
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:57pm On Sep 29, 2017
Well just like Obi is being snubbed for Agu.. Well he's in charge (the coach) so he takes the fall/praise.

The best is what we need and he owes us that.
Joebie:
That's not a mystery. What the coach sees is not necessarily what reporters see. Also, tactical decisions are made based on the situation of the match at that point in time, and what the coach is trying to achieve. Let's see if Rohr will consider Ogu ahead of Agu next time


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:58pm On Sep 29, 2017
Rohr awaits Arsene Wenger's decision on Iwobi when Arsenal takes on Brighton this weekend, before taking a decision on whether to replace him with a player in the standby list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:01pm On Sep 29, 2017
I won't consider that a snub. And yes are right. He is the coach. He decides. We can only make suggestions.

somehow:
Well just like Obi is being snubbed for Agu.. Well he's in charge (the coach) so he takes the fall/praise.

The best is what we need and he owes us that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:14pm On Sep 29, 2017
FINLAND: Veikkausliiga - Round 29:

Inter Turku 1-2 KuPS(FT)

Reuben Gabriel scored a brace (38', 88') to help KuPS beat Turku away. He was on for the entire duration
Compatriot and teammate Gbolohon Salami hopped off the bench in the 68th.

Turku featured Philip Njoku from the start till the 79th minute.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:22pm On Sep 29, 2017
FINLAND: Veikkausliiga - Round 29:

VPS 1-2 HIFK(FT)
Another Nigerian also won away.
However, Finnish-Nigerian Left-back Nnaemeka Anyamele remained in HIFK's dugout for the entire encounter.
The 23 year old has represented Finland at the junior levels.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:26pm On Sep 29, 2017
Mickael2:



Onazi? Cmf? You have started again oo

Where does Onazi plays? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:27pm On Sep 29, 2017
Joebie:
Sir, I was talking about the previous season.. Ogu was named the best in the 15/16 season. Nwakaeme the following season (16/17).. I can confirm that.

Modified
Best foreign player rather -- John Ogu (15/16)
http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4110/african-all-stars/2016/05/20/23742402/john-ogu-named-best-foreign-player-in-israeli-premier-league


Best foreign player is not the same as best player in the league. Only Nwakeame has won that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:29pm On Sep 29, 2017
PORTUGAL: Primeira Liga - Round 8:

Chaves VS Tondela (8.30PM Nigerian Time)
Our eyes is on 20 year old center-back Junior Pius (Tondela)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:31pm On Sep 29, 2017
oga na, abi wetin "rather" mean?.. lol
tbaba1234:


Best foreign player is not the same as best player in the league. Only Nwakeame has won that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:31pm On Sep 29, 2017
If its not a snub, what do we call it?
Joebie:
I won't consider that a snub. And yes are right. He is the coach. He decides. We can only make suggestions.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:37pm On Sep 29, 2017
I don't consider it a snub. if you consider it a snub -- fine. I don't argue about EVERYTHING. It's not a necessary argument.

somehow:
If its not a snub, what do we call it?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:39pm On Sep 29, 2017
Trabz na .. he still dey there.
He is a dmf/cmf I think

forgiveness:


Where does Onazi plays? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 7:46pm On Sep 29, 2017
TB, I was just about to make the same point. You gotta consider the competition before we decide how much stock we'd put on the award. As the saying goes, in the land of the blind, a one eyed man becomes king. If you don't have too many quality foreign players playing in the Israeli league then anybody can win it easily (even a mediocre player) but that doesn't make you a super star.


O pari

tbaba1234:


Best foreign player is not the same as best player in the league. Only Nwakeame has won that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:48pm On Sep 29, 2017
CHINA: FA Cup - Semi-finals:

Shanghai Shenxin 0-1 Shanghai Shenhua
Obafemi Martins score to take Shenhua to the Final -- 2-0 on aggregate.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:49pm On Sep 29, 2017
Very true..
Ogu still won it ahead of Nwakame that season though.

Icon79:
TB, I was just about to make the same point. You gotta consider the competition before we decide how much stock we'd put on the award. As the saying goes, in the land of the blind, a one eyed man becomes king. If you don't have too many quality foreign players playing in the Israeli league then anybody can win it easily (even a mediocre player) but that doesn't make you a super star.


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:51pm On Sep 29, 2017
TheGoodJoe:



What use is the extra spot if it will not help our future? Not all players that come to camp will play. Why not sacrifice that spot for a player who has the potential of ruling our midfield for years. We need him studying Mikel now.

if you look closely you will see that in our midfield, the ages of the players there overlap eachother. How old is Azubuike? How old is Joel Obi? These guys are between 26-23 years and they still have 10 years to give atleast, Kelechi's time is still far, far, far away and inviting him now is pure injustice. That's why we have U20 and U23, it's just like England inviting Solanke or Tammy for them to come and be 'groomed', e fit happen?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:52pm On Sep 29, 2017
Joebie:
Trabz na .. he still dey there.
He is a dmf/cmf I think


Trabzonspor. Currently he is a bench warming DMF there(he did make a substitute appearance as a CMF not too long ago that was why I didn't take his bait)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:55pm On Sep 29, 2017
Onazi will be very difficult to displace in SE. He is still young and has world cup experience.

Mickael2:


Trabzonspor. Currently he is a bench warming DMF there(he did make a substitute appearance as a CMF not too long ago that was why I didn't take his bait)

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