tbaba1234:


Even in difficult games like against USA and Italy, Ronaldo was not brought on. He was 17, the impact, he could have made is debatable.

komekn:


It's not devotion but knowledge add to that I am in England and involved with English football. I go to
mainland Europe possibly 6/7 times a year maybe more. Watch a few games when I can or if I have too so my knowledge of European football is not in depth.

Would you want me to make unsubstantiated comments or makes deductions without a deep underpinning understanding of the subject.

That's why I leave comments on the Nigerian league to those who know more.

TheGoodJoe:


Joel Obi is a fantastic player no doubt but with respect to someone being groomed to take over Mikel, we are talking of a player having the precise balance in play and can cover a wide range of positions in the midfield, including the deep midfield role, playing as a deep lying playmaker.

I see K. Nwakali as a better fit.

Mickael2:


Trabzonspor. Currently he is a bench warming DMF there(he did make a substitute appearance as a CMF not too long ago that was why I didn't take his bait)

Joebie:
Trabz na .. he still dey there.
He is a dmf/cmf I think

Joebie:
Rohr awaits Arsene Wenger's decision on Iwobi when Arsenal takes on Brighton this weekend, before taking a decision on whether to replace him with a player in the standby list.

Mickael2:



welcome to the 'Onazi haters fanclub' according to my good friends Kog45 and Sir forgiveness

forgiveness:


So, you know he can play comfortably in both positions but you pretended or played ignorant not to know.

Chopping bench changes nothing about his ability to play in those positions.

komekn:


You don't groom players.

Players prove themselves worthy after putting up consistent quality performances at thier club. Only then can they be worthy of a call to the SE on merit not assumed potential and or past youth football glories.

If Nwakali is good enough then let him prove it in the Eredivisie a league ranked 11th in Europe and a team that is far from the top in the Eredivisie. A perfect setting to showcase his quality and prove his pedigree.

When Mikel was at Lyn Oslo for the very limited time he was there he was clearly outstanding quality.

In comparison Nwakali has done nothing so far, it is a disservice to more deserving players just like Joel Obi. It would mean murdering fair play and merit in cold blood in broad daylight.

Mickael2:



90% of DMFs can play as CMFs. Kante, Busquets, Kroos, Ndidi and the list goes on so there is nothing special there. The question is how effective is Onazi in the CMF role compared to other potential CMFs that we have? And the answer is....not very effective

Kog45:
Pls who is Ambrose?don't tell me is Efe,then Taiye Taiwo should be recalled.

forgiveness:


Why is Kayode not on the list? I am suspecting foul play..

BascoVanVeli:


Efe is only 28.

BascoVanVeli:


A normal comment from Onazi's sworn enemy. I wouldn't expect u to say anything else.

chrisooblog:
Joel obi has unique abilities that stand him out. He can play with or without Mikel in our midfield so he's not necessarily his replacement.

K. Nwakali is a good potential no doubt but taking him to world cup based on that when we have better players than him would be a great injustice. He is still finding his feet in the lowly rated Dutch league. I don't mind him being invited to train with Mikel and co to get a feel of the national team

Mickael2:



the national team camp lasts barely a week, highest 6-10 times a year, how will you groom a player using that limited number of time? Oya the 'grooming' Oshimen received how has it helped his life? Origi is keeping the guy cozy on the bench and I don't even rate Origi that much

joseph1013:
Guys, good morning.

I didn't want to comment until I get to the last page but it keeps getting longer and longer. I'm still on page 1600. LOL

The recent event was unfortunate and I hope thesupernerd would come back. Thanks Icon4s for playing the role of an elder, as usual.

Nairaland is nobody's house. And while I have gotten angry and said some not-too nice words in the past and I can't promise I won't get angry in the future, I believe we can resolve our differences in a humane manner. Even identical twins fight. I look forward to seeing people on this thread offline someday soon. tbaba1234, a get-together for the group okay?

safarigirl, I see you. But go easy on our guy. The deed is done, time to mend fences.

Joebie, you make this thread rock.

I expect these setbacks from time to time, but the thread is self-correcting.

*Back to reading from 1600. But mehn, you guys can talk, maka why? terzurum5, what is wrong with these people?

Humility017:

please....don't talk as if you don't know the truth...

take a good look at that league....I mean the NPFL and tell me if there is a true 20-22 years old playin there...

I once had a chat wit a NNL player...who happened to have 3 different years of birth.

please forget their ages...please

BascoVanVeli:


People only cry overage when they don't like the player. If Mikel was not in our good book people would be crying the same thing. All I can say is that he has shown no signs of slowing down.

TheGoodJoe:


The few times the player trains in camp is better than lots of time training with players who are even of less quality than him. You can not tell how Osimhen training with Rohr has helped Osimhen by watching on TV. He is developing and is a young player. The training always helps.

By the way Benching does not mean no development. The young man is even lucky to have players like Origi and Mario Gomez in camp to study and train with. With time the effect will show.

Humility017:

don't mind him...
I just don't wanna have an argument this morning...
I doubt if he had ever watch onazi play for Nigeria...in 2013 afcon, last world cup an also all through this qualifiers especially against Cameroon.

i feel he has something personal wit onazi...

Mickael2:



if he truly is one of our most promising talents then he should be at a top club right now. It is not our fault that he is in the dutch league, his quality may still shine now but telling me that we should use the national team to market him to clubs isn't right, besides he has nothing to offer the national team at all right now.


Ok let me ask, is there any top teams that 'groom' players in this way?

BascoVanVeli:


A normal comment from Onazi's sworn enemy. I wouldn't expect u to say anything else.

Mickael2:



you see you are contradicting yourself. So he has top players like Gomez and Origi to train with why then do we have to 'groom' him in the national team? I thought your excuse is that he is playing with players below his level? Which current SE striker is better than these guys? So why is he coming to our team exactly since he can learn from better players in his club?

Back to Nwakali, he is still sitting on the bench, that means the starters are better than him. We all know that you can always learn from anybody, so telling me that he must come to a 6-day camp to learn instead of inviting bonafide starter-materials is not fair at all

TheGoodJoe:


No one says using the National team to market him. I said use the National team to build one of our most promising talents. Do not use that he must be in a top club by now as an excuse. European football does not work like that for African players. The road is harder. That is why we must make conscious efforts to make it easier for our players to develop. Especially, the special ones. Kelechi Nwakali was spotted in his early things and rose to prove the coaches and analysts who spotted him right by bagging the U17 World Cup golden ball.

Now we must not fold our arms and let the fate of his success lie in the arms of the Europeans. We should be more proactive with our special talents.

We need someone in the future who can bring to the team the kind of quality Mikel has. Kelechi Nwakali is a player who ticks the right boxes. Both in talent potential, role and style of play.

So waiting for the Europeans is comical.

Marketing entails playing him for clubs to see his quality. That is not what I said. I said bring him to camp to train along side Mikel, who is a high quality player. This will aid his growth.

Joebie:
Expected return date very soon.

TheGoodJoe:


The discussion is about Kelechi Nwakali who does not have Origi and Mario Gomez kind of quality in the club and role he plays for. I Wonder why you are talking Osimhen. Please, Osimhen and Kelechi Nwakali are different players.

Mickael2:



you see you are contradicting yourself. So he has top players like Gomez and Origi to train with why then do we have to 'groom' him in the national team? I thought your excuse is that he is playing with players below his level? Which current SE striker is better than these guys? So why is he coming to our team exactly since he can learn from better players in his club?

Back to Nwakali, he is still sitting on the bench, that means the starters are better than him. We all know that you can always learn from anybody, so telling me that he must come to a 6-day camp to learn instead of inviting bonafide starter-materials is not fair at all

Mickael2:



90% of DMFs can play as CMFs. Kante, Busquets, Kroos, Ndidi and the list goes on so there is nothing special there. The question is how effective is Onazi in the CMF role compared to other potential CMFs that we have? And the answer is....not very effective

Mickael2:


but you have given this same excuse for Oshimen before, do I need to dig it up?