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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:29pm On Oct 01, 2017
Kog45:
GBAM abi no be d same Efe again,very erratic as CB,back up for Ekong and Leon?

Rohr should just look for CB in d class of Balogun who can read d game very well.Felix Uduokhai should be considered coz is not easy to be a starter in German league especially as CB.

Am an apostle of experience but a lot forget that some players doesnt need any national team experience to break into d team.

Balogun came to national team through Keshi,his first match he got injured as RB when he came in d 2nd half but his first touch on d ball was a class,already ripe at that time.

I remember Onigbinde invited Danny Shittu prior to 2002 WC and played a friendly but later dropped,i told a friend that this guy was better than Efe Sodje even better than Joseph Enakhire as at then coz it was glaring.

Look at Ikeme case for instance,it was glaring that Ikeme should have in Eagles for long or do we say Ikeme need any experience to be in goal for national team.He doesn't need it,championship league already prepared d guy for any challenges.

My question is this why do we need to wait for this foreign born to reach d age of 28 plus before extending invitation to them,thanks for Rohr for changing this perspectives.


If Ekong can lay claim to shirt as CB in d Super Eagles then player like Felix Uduokhai,Ojokojo, Irofa are more ready,let give them d chance now not after 28 years of age.
the sentiments here...leave me surprised...
I do much thank God some of us here are not the national team coach or the nff boss...only God knows what state our football would have been...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:30pm On Oct 01, 2017
let forgiveness catch you as you no include Ajagun and Kayode.
That time e go accuse all of us for this thread of conspiracy. grin

Humility017:

you're right on Tammy...
I think pinnick wit his mouth worsen the whole matter....
I do believe all pinnick said transpired from the meeting they last had wit him...but he should have kept everything secret.

just that height of his...and the way he move his leg like zlatan...

well...I just pray we wrap things up this month...then we can try new faces against Algeria...
players like Dennis, olayinka, ebuehi, bazee and dessers

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:30pm On Oct 01, 2017
Joebie:
na d same kind argument we dey see here na..

That's what made me laugh. The coach dropped kalaba and some started crying tribalism. I say kai Africa na Africa. It was funny kinda coming from them-When you see your fvck up is also your opponents fvck up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 4:32pm On Oct 01, 2017
Mickael2:



I think Iwobi played very well today as part of a front three playing out wide. It is just a matter of what the coach wants and if he wants to retain possession(like I know he will) then Iwobi for me, we don't need two wingers who will be trying to play totally on the wings. In context this was how Barca won their last treble, Neymar was stationed out wide as the only true winger on the team(VicMo can do that) while Messi was always coming into the midfield as a midfielder and of course Messi does not exactly track back(almost identical to what Iwobi can do). I think this system will work wonders if Ndidi can be technical enough to cover Iwobi's wings when we are without possession just like Rakitic used to do(Onazi should not do it at all because that will leave an empty space in the middle)
Nice,but not for a match of this magnitude.
We need to qualify in Uyo .
No experiments.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:34pm On Oct 01, 2017
Joebie:
let forgiveness catch you as you no include Ajagun and Kayode.
That time e go accuse all of us for this thread of conspiracy. grin

Lol...he can include it if he likes....
I think kayode too...should be included
I really don't think that Aaron Samuel has any business wit the super eagles for now...likewise Isaac success...

the problem is...we have so much players as strikers now...so kayode chances gonna be limited...just imagine had it been we were able to get Tammy....
so those who wanna go to Russia should step up their game...

I think nwakali too stand a chance...if he step up his game too....

he may make the provisional squad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:37pm On Oct 01, 2017
EEGA:
Nice,but not for a match of this magnitude.
We need to qualify in Uyo .
No experiments.
Seconded. Even parking of train is allowed so long as it takes us to Russia. I've invested too much emotionally in this Russia 2018. Formerly World Cups begins the day of the first game but not anymore- So much razzmatazz, culture shows, snippets, team focus, history, tourism rolled up into one mouth watering sausage roll beginning from December this year when seedings will be done. Omo we need to be there!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:37pm On Oct 01, 2017
Humility017:

dude has played over 3 games this season...
two last games he has played...
you can go find out...
Even we can count d numbers of game Balogun played this season,Awaziem was in Porto team B last season but doing well in French league,meaning player like Felix Uduokha should be considered and let see what he can offer.As a starter sometimes in Wolfsburg shows that d guy is good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:38pm On Oct 01, 2017
Humility017:

experienced centre half that will sit on the bench...ryt?
do you think efe will like sit on the bench or rather act as back up to the current defenders.....?

you simply not sold on Felix reason because he plies his football in Germany and not in England...
had it been you've been following up the German league...you will know how well he has played this season and minutes he has to his belt.
I remember you once signalled Wolfsburg to be in same lane wit championship club....

let's leave that aside....the German league is miles ahead of the Scottish league...
Felix will offer more in the long run...for Nigeria...the goal is not just now but to build a formidable team that will make a mark in Qatar 2022...and beyond
rather than go for efe I will prefer we even go for illorfa


You haven't answered the question, how many games has he played in the Bundesliga for his team


Being in the Bundesliga as a first team player playing regular football is a world away from playing a few games and warming the bench. That's not the pedigree required for the SE.

Wolfsburg was almost relegated last season and are far from being a top club. The bottom section of the Bundesliga I will rate on par with the mid section of the Championship.

Bundesliga is rated 4th in Europe and I have watched quite a few German teams. Which I find to be almost a one team league with Bayern winning everything going almost year in year out. The gap between Bayern and it's closest rivals is considerable.

Unlike in the premiership you really cannot tell each year who can win it. You have almost 5/6 teams in contention every year. Wining the league consecutively or three years in a row is near impossible.

Bundesliga is close to Scotland premier league with Celtic running away with everything for the past few years. It's the performance of Bayern that pushes them up the European rankings.

That's why I can't really see Wolfsburg, Mainz and Augsberg beating Fulham, Derby and Middlesbrough.

It's in thar regard I consider the premiership the most competitive, the fastest and physically demanding intense league in the World.

The Bundesliga may contend technically speaking but that's about it. That's my view on the Bundesliga.

With this in mind why do you regard 20 year old youth player essentially who is inexperienced, untested and unproven a better option than Efe Ambrose.

Dominic Iorfa is fast strong but technically superior with regard to the SE he is not that comfortable on the ball. However, he probably is better than Omeruo who wasn't able to cut it in the championship with Middlesbrough.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:43pm On Oct 01, 2017
Hahahaha exactly
Mujtahida:

That's what made me laugh. The coach dropped kalaba and some started crying tribalism. I say kai Africa na Africa. It was funny kinda coming from them-When you see your fvck up is also your opponents fvck up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 4:44pm On Oct 01, 2017
Humility017:

to be honest wit you...I think V Moses has no business taking the Free kicks...
Simon should be left to handle it...couple wit the fact that he takes that for his club too

I made mentioned of Victor Moses because i didn't know Simon Moses was already picked to take FKs but in the current settings, the players don't even allow him take most of the FKs, you will see random players trying to do this job. He should claim his responsibility na by asserting himself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 4:45pm On Oct 01, 2017
Mujtahida:

They wore green for our last two home matches and White in the away to Cameroun. I think they even wore white for the the away match to Zambia

I actually prefer white at home but then the green isn't bad either, just a preference for home matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:46pm On Oct 01, 2017
komekn:


You haven't answered the question, how many games has he played in the Bundesliga for his team


Being in the Bundesliga as a first team player playing regular football is a world away from playing a few games and warming the bench. That's not the pedigree required for the SE.

Wolfsburg was almost relegated last season and are far from being a top club. The bottom section of the Bundesliga I will rate on par with the mid section of the Championship.

Bundesliga is rated 4th in Europe and I have watched quite a few German teams. Which I find to be almost a one team league with Bayern winning everything going almost year in year out. The gap between Bayern and it's closest rivals is considerable.

Unlike in the premiership you really cannot tell each year who can win it. You have almost 5/6 teams in contention every year. Wining the league consecutively or three years in a row is near impossible.

Bundesliga is close to Scotland premier league with Celtic running away with everything for the past few years. It's the performance of Bayern that pushes them up the European rankings.

That's why I can't really see Wolfsburg, Mainz and Augsberg beating Fulham, Derby and Middlesbrough.

It's in thar regard I consider the premiership the most competitive, the fastest and physically demanding intense league in the World.

The Bundesliga may contend technically speaking but that's about it. That's my view on the Bundesliga.

With this in mind why do you regard 20 year old youth player essentially who is inexperienced, untested and unproven a better option than Efe Ambrose.

Dominic Iorfa is fast strong but technically superior with regard to the SE he is not that comfortable on the ball. However, he probably is better than Omeruo who wasn't able to cut it in the championship with Middlesbrough.

Sir,pls what can u say about Tosin Adarabioyo coz i don't see people talk about him here.Abi is not considering Nigeria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 4:48pm On Oct 01, 2017
“He [Iwobi] reminds me of his uncle, Jay-Jay Okocha,”

"He [Okocha] was a player I loved watching. Alex reminds me of a mixture of him and Edgar Davids. He’s really strong on the ball, also defensively, but he’s good in front of goal too.”

Mesut Ozil told Arsenal Player .
Goal.com

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:54pm On Oct 01, 2017
komekn:


You haven't answered the question, how many games has he played in the Bundesliga for his team


Being in the Bundesliga as a first team player playing regular football is a world away from playing a few games and warming the bench. That's not the pedigree required for the SE.

Wolfsburg was almost relegated last season and are far from being a top club. The bottom section of the Bundesliga I will rate on par with the mid section of the Championship.

Bundesliga is rated 4th in Europe and I have watched quite a few German teams. Which I find to be almost a one team league with Bayern winning everything going almost year in year out. The gap between Bayern and it's closest rivals is considerable.

Unlike in the premiership you really cannot tell each year who can win it. You have almost 5/6 teams in contention every year. Wining the league consecutively or three years in a row is near impossible.

Bundesliga is close to Scotland premier league with Celtic running away with everything for the past few years. It's the performance of Bayern that pushes them up the European rankings.

That's why I can't really see Wolfsburg, Mainz and Augsberg beating Fulham, Derby and Middlesbrough.

It's in thar regard I consider the premiership the most competitive, the fastest and physically demanding intense league in the World.

The Bundesliga may contend technically speaking but that's about it. That's my view on the Bundesliga.

With this in mind why do you regard 20 year old youth player essentially who is inexperienced, untested and unproven a better option than Efe Ambrose.

Dominic Iorfa is fast strong but technically superior with regard to the SE he is not that comfortable on the ball. However, he probably is better than Omeruo who wasn't able to cut it in the championship with Middlesbrough.

you comparing German league wit the Scottish league....is a gross injustice and loopsided...
even Dortmund and bayern levekersun will beat hell out of Celtic.

every ucl season...bayern do prove their worth and that their triumph in German league is no fluke
calling a young defender like Felix a bench warmer is surprising...a player who had played over 50% of his club football this season...
same way you downplayed ebuehi because he plays in the Dutch league...

mind you the acclaimed one of the best CB in Africa right now...Leon plies his trade in the German league...and doesn't get to play that much...but whenever he plays for Nigeria he shines like a milion stars...
going by your assertion Leon should be a Benjamin.

with all due respect sir...it seems you ignorant of the German football culture, something evident in all their groomed players


same league wit only only dominant champion...bayern and other average clubs..
Germany will build a formidable senior national team, under 23, under 20 and under 17 from and they will be unbeatable and have other nations for dinner even England...

go back to history both male and female football...
besides Brazil....Germany have one of the most robust history in football having won more trophies and appearing in more finals than any other european nation.


Felix don't need experience to get into the super eagles......with his potentials he is raring to go...we should go for him instead...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:05pm On Oct 01, 2017
Humility017:

you comparing German league wit the Scottish league....is a gross injustice and loopsided...
even Dortmund and bayern levekersun will beat hell out of Celtic.

every ucl season...bayern do prove their worth and that their triumph in German league is no fluke
calling a young defender like Felix a bench warmer is surprising...a player who had played over 50% of his club football this season...
same way you downplayed ebuehi because he plays in the Dutch league...

mind you the acclaimed one of the best CB in Africa right now...Leon plies his trade in the German league...and doesn't get to play that much...but whenever he plays for Nigeria he shines like a milion stars...
going by your assertion Leon should be a Benjamin.

with all due respect sir...it seems you ignorant of the German football culture, something evident in all their groomed players


same league wit only only dominant champion...bayern and other average clubs..
Germany will build a formidable senior national team, under 23, under 20 and under 17 from and they will be unbeatable and have other nations for dinner even England...

go back to history both male and female football...
besides Brazil....Germany have one of the most robust history in football having won more trophies and appearing in more finals than any other european nation.


Felix don't need experience to get into the super eagles......with his potentials he is raring to go...we should go for him instead...
Agreed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 5:19pm On Oct 01, 2017
Alhassan scored today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 5:37pm On Oct 01, 2017
Ogenyi Onazi starts for Trabzonspor against Besiktas away from home.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by HeavySigh: 5:39pm On Oct 01, 2017
Safari woman, I apologize. I will stop haunting you now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:41pm On Oct 01, 2017
Goal for Chidi Nwakali

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:51pm On Oct 01, 2017
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:52pm On Oct 01, 2017
Kog45:
Sir,pls what can u say about Tosin Adarabioyo coz i don't see people talk about him here.Abi is not considering Nigeria

I have watched Tosin since he was about 14 at Manchester City. He reads the game well but seems lightweight doesn't have the physicality to impose himself on the game. He has not been able to break into the first team and is indeed a long way off.

Add to that he has not been able to break into the England youth set up in recent times. I do not rate him highly. He desperately needs to go on loan as a matter of URGENCY. Otherwise he can easily stagnate.

Possibly one for the Future. However, if City release him I can see him dropping a few leagues down.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:56pm On Oct 01, 2017
Make I catch Tammy for Warri fes? lol
tbaba1234:
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:01pm On Oct 01, 2017
Are they ready? What's stopping them now? All the names you mentioned need to switch their allegiance first. After that we have to see what they can bring.. Not a short term solution to me. My point is you need your best alternatives in bench at all times. When those players you mentioned finally make the switch then we can talk about them fighting for the CB spot. For now, I'm stil waiting for you to mention names that can be IMMEDIATE alternatives.


Kog45:
GBAM abi no be d same Efe again,very erratic as CB,back up for Ekong and Leon?

Rohr should just look for CB in d class of Balogun who can read d game very well.Felix Uduokhai should be considered coz is not easy to be a starter in German league especially as CB.

Am an apostle of experience but a lot forget that some players doesnt need any national team experience to break into d team.

Balogun came to national team through Keshi,his first match he got injured as RB when he came in d 2nd half but his first touch on d ball was a class,already ripe at that time.

I remember Onigbinde invited Danny Shittu prior to 2002 WC and played a friendly but later dropped,i told a friend that this guy was better than Efe Sodje even better than Joseph Enakhire as at then coz it was glaring.

Look at Ikeme case for instance,it was glaring that Ikeme should have in Eagles for long or do we say Ikeme need any experience to be in goal for national team.He doesn't need it,championship league already prepared d guy for any challenges.

My question is this why do we need to wait for this foreign born to reach d age of 28 plus before extending invitation to them,thanks for Rohr for changing this perspectives.


If Ekong can lay claim to shirt as CB in d Super Eagles then player like Felix Uduokhai,Jordan Tournarigba,Irofa are more ready,let give them d chance now not after 28 years of age.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:02pm On Oct 01, 2017
tbaba1234:
....
this guys still think themselves Nigerians... good to know...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:04pm On Oct 01, 2017
Humility017:

you comparing German league wit the Scottish league....is a gross injustice and loopsided...
even Dortmund and bayern levekersun will beat hell out of Celtic.

every ucl season...bayern do prove their worth and that their triumph in German league is no fluke
calling a young defender like Felix a bench warmer is surprising...a player who had played over 50% of his club football this season...
same way you downplayed ebuehi because he plays in the Dutch league...

mind you the acclaimed one of the best CB in Africa right now...Leon plies his trade in the German league...and doesn't get to play that much...but whenever he plays for Nigeria he shines like a milion stars...
going by your assertion Leon should be a Benjamin.

with all due respect sir...it seems you ignorant of the German football culture, something evident in all their groomed players


same league wit only only dominant champion...bayern and other average clubs..
Germany will build a formidable senior national team, under 23, under 20 and under 17 from and they will be unbeatable and have other nations for dinner even England...

go back to history both male and female football...
besides Brazil....Germany have one of the most robust history in football having won more trophies and appearing in more finals than any other european nation.


Felix don't need experience to get into the super eagles......with his potentials he is raring to go...we should go for him instead...

It seems I didn't make myself clear
.

There is no comparison between the Bundesliga and the Scottish premier League. They are MILES APART
in quality, not on the same level AT ALL.

However, just like the Scottish League they are a one club wins all just like the Celtic in the Scottish premier League. You have very similar characteristics with Bayern winning everything going for the past 17 years plus, bar 2/3 titles. Bayern success in Europe pushes the Bundesliga up on the national league ratings table by UEFA.

The gap between Bayern and everyone else is considerably large. Then the gap between the top 4/5 teams and the bottom section is also considerable.

Unlike in the EPL where it's impossible to predict who as among the top five will win it. In thus regard the EPL is the most competitive league in Europe.

Back to Felix I asked you how many games he has played in the Bundesliga. You still haven't answered the question.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:08pm On Oct 01, 2017
Flashback:

MY list for Algeria. Scrap Okoro, Olalekan and Eze.

Oya come fight

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:17pm On Oct 01, 2017
komekn:


I have watched Tosin since he was about 14 at Manchester City. He reads the game well but seems lightweight doesn't have the physicality to impose himself on the game. He has not been able to break into the first team and is indeed a long way off.

Add to that he has not been able to break into the England youth set up in recent times. I do not rate him highly. He desperately needs to go on loan as a matter of URGENCY. Otherwise he can easily stagnate.

Possibly one for the Future. However, if City release him I can see him dropping a few leagues down.
Thanks for d info
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:21pm On Oct 01, 2017
Joebie:
Are they ready? What's stopping them now? All the names you mentioned need to switch their allegiance first. After that we have to see what they can bring.. Not a short term solution to me. My point is you need your best alternatives in bench at all times. When those players you mentioned finally make the switch then we can talk about them fighting for the CB spot. For now, I'm stil waiting for you to mention names that can be IMMEDIATE alternatives.


Yea u are right about their switch but i don't think NFF are considering this guys like d way they are pursue Tammy.

Already told u my alternatives,Omeruo with Awaziem am OK.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gritzky1996: 6:29pm On Oct 01, 2017
trouble in catalunya visit 2018 worldcup Fb page for more news

https://mobile.facebook.com/Fifa-world-cup-Russia-2018-1944900199061789/?ref=opera_speed_dial

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:31pm On Oct 01, 2017
Omeruo is not even good enough for the standby list right now.

Don't suspect foul play when there is none. Who made move for Sarenren Bazee? Same person also made a move for another German-Nigerian --
I can't remember. We are only hearing of Tammy this Tammy not only because of his exploit in the Championship but he's moved to the Premier League. Added to that Pinnick has a personal relationship with the dad. I'm sure Rohr has he's eyes on those Germans. That's his circle. He knows what to do. Just because he is not loud mouthed like Pinnick don't mean he is not looking to win them over.
Besides, don't forget we made a move on Torunarigha earlier.


Kog45:
Yea u are right about their switch but i don't think NFF are considering this guys like d way they are pursue Tammy.

Already told u my alternatives,Omeruo with Awaziem am OK.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:31pm On Oct 01, 2017
Golazo by Nwakali.. Great shot from outside the box
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:32pm On Oct 01, 2017
football only here

gritzky1996:
trouble in catalunya visit 2018 worldcup Fb page for more news

https://mobile.facebook.com/Fifa-world-cup-Russia-2018-1944900199061789/?ref=opera_speed_dial

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