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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 11:35am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mujtahida:I will troll those guys on Saturday. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:37am On Oct 02, 2017 |
14 Super Eagles To Arrive In Uyo Today October 2, 2017 8:06 am By Johnny Edward: No fewer than 14 players are expected in the Super Eagles camp at Le Meridien Ibom Hotel and Golf Resort in Uyo later today (Monday), October 2 ahead of Saturday’s 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifier against Zambia, Completesportsnigeria.com reports. Captain John Mikel Obi will lead the likes of Odion Ighalo, Leon Balogun, Oghenekaro Etebo, John Ogu, Anthony Nwakaeme, Ogenyi Onazi, Shehu Abdulahi, Ahmed Musa, Wilfred Ndidi and Kelechi Iheanacho. Other players expected on Monday are Victor Moses, William Troost Ekong, and Elderson Echiejile. According to the schedule released by the Nigeria Football Federation, through their official Twitter handle, the Super Eagles will hold their first training session on Tuesday, and the fans and media will be allowed to watch the session. The Super Eagles training sessions on Thursday and Friday, will be a closed sessions. Nigeria will qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia if they beat Zambia by any goal margin on October 7. --CompleteSportsNigeria 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:38am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Kog45: wait oo you wan use the goal cast my guy? I told you goals alone don't matter |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:40am On Oct 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Perhaps you know more than Cantona who described this role as thus (Eric Cantona once famously described the role of Didier Deschamp in the French national team as that of a ‘water-carrier’, the impish implication being that he toiled to win the ball and pass it on to more skillful players, such as Cantona himself, so they could weave their magic). This is the stereotype about DMs. They simply win the ball and give to more talented teammates. That is why a DM will never win the Ballon d'Or. Playing that role for years at Chelsea killed Mikel's creative game. You said it yourself some pages ago when we played Cameroun, perhaps for argument sake you want to drag this. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:41am On Oct 02, 2017 |
safarigirl: Na Echiejile get athletism ba? Abi na Shehu Abdullahi and Mikel Obi get athletism, ba? ![]() Don't let those Zambians deceive you because those same set of kids brought them up to where they are now. In football anything can happen with bad choice of players and tactics. As Conte take do against the kwatankwa playing Manchester City. ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:42am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:Castigate ke! Busquets na my man o but i just want u to say something on it coz I remember then a lot castigate Mikel for not scoring for Chelsea. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47am On Oct 02, 2017 |
goldfish80: Stereotype is a widely held idea but not generally true. What you quoted up there is saying what I am saying. Due to the Stereotype, the great and key roles of the defensive midfielders get overlooked. Just like Cantona. Understand what you are quoting. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:48am On Oct 02, 2017 |
forgiveness:Moses Simon get athleticism, Leon Balogun and especially Victor Moses he athleticism. Mikel does not need athleticism, he will decimate those kids with ease, I have confidence in that. I hate reading anything you post and even more, I hate conversing with you because you aggravate me. You can think whatever you like, but it dies not change the fact that our team is better than Zambia's just like Manchester City had a better team than Chelsea. God! I hate talking to you 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:50am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Kog45: I think Busquets has scored quite a few goals. I can remember his winner against Valencia sometime ago. However, do you know why Iniesta keeps on making the FIFA XI? Why he won the UEFA man of the match in the 2015 Ucl final despite not scoring or even making an assist? Because he controls the game. Me I don't care if Busquets doesn't score or if he scores as often as Santa visits my place so long as he does his job perfectly well. Same goes for Mikel too |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:50am On Oct 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Prior to those two matches, what happened? ![]() Apart from those two games, did we even dominate in the finals? Keshi hand no dey the second failure to qualify for the nations cup? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 11:51am On Oct 02, 2017 |
The only score that would appease me is 4-0. these Zambians are just loud mouths. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:51am On Oct 02, 2017 |
you have sinned in your analogy. Use another team, not Chelsea ![]() You point is valid though safarigirl: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 11:52am On Oct 02, 2017 |
@TheGoodjoe and @goldfish, your views on the role aren't different from each other (from what I have been reading at least, or am I missing something?). Take a step back and see that you are both essentially saying the same thing about the DM role and in no way denigrating the players who play in it. @Mikael2 and others, Mikael's view that Hierro isn't a legend indicates that he has a different definition of the word than most people here (particularly with regard to longevity). Hence that is the fundamental point of disagreement . I was surprised anyone could ever suggest Hierro isnt a real madrid or spanish legend. It is not the case however that he hates Mikel or something like that. If we take time to read and understand what people with opposing views write sometimes, we might be able to skip some unnecessary arguments I must say I learn a lot from this thread and the healthy discussions devoid of personal insults are commendable! Thumbs up! 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:54am On Oct 02, 2017 |
safarigirl: slow down. You know these our players play week in week out, high intensity games but the Zambians(the home-based ones) have been camping for two weeks or more, resting and preparing for the game. They might be able to last longer than we would. Hwever I totally agree that we have a better team but slow down and don't attack 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 11:54am On Oct 02, 2017 |
The Zambians are so boastful it's unbelievable. They're delusional, almost bordering on psychosis. Below is a comment from their forum zamfoot which I found utterly ridiculous and amusing ![]() . . Mtembo says: September 28, 2017 at 7:31 pm Chipolopolo should win in Nigeria convincingly. The Nigerian players are old and immobile and can’t stand the heat for 90 minutes. Mikel, Onazi and Moses are past their prime and i doubt their real age. I expect Stopilla and Sinkala to crush the eagles. Zambia hardly loses when there is qualification as stake. Head to head also favours Zambia. I hope Nigerians will be here after we have embarrassed them in Uyo. Reply . Noticed where this dude said Moses is past his prime; and that Zambia hardly loses if qualification is at stake even though they've never qualified for the World Cup. They don't seem to know what they are talking about. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:57am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:Correct u made my day 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:57am On Oct 02, 2017 |
tglobal: this conversation dragged me to a site managingmadrid.com which is a broad blog for Madridstas from all over the world and I asked that same question and most of them agreed that he was a great player for them but when you talk about legends....well not so much. I mean people here think a particular team can have like 50legends, for me it doesn't work that work. If 20 persons have done what you managed to do then you are displaced as a legend for me(and well for most of the members at managingmadrid.com) but I didn't want to drag the argument and I don't want to do that now either. Just made the point because you approached in a very very awesome manner 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:59am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:how many of our players? Apart from Ndidi, Troost, Mikel and Ighalo, I don't think any of our players has really been tasked in that manner and those who have are not starters for us. Sometimes, the more you play games the more ready you are for a challenge. I don tire to dey talk too much on this matter, na so we finish our team before the Cameron game saying the Cameroonians have blended more than our team, now, it is that Zambians have rested. Make Saturday reach biko 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:59am On Oct 02, 2017 |
Kog45: you wan corner me abi, I don dey age small small since I was able to figure out what my Oga wanted to do to me ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
forgiveness: This one is just rant. You can score a fluke goal or win a game with a fluke chance. Not win three tough games, including the favorites of the competition by fluke. Thrashing one of them by fluke. Please, fear God. Oliseh messed our chance to qualify for the last AFCON not Keshi. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:01pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
KevinDein: I am thinking that he is talking about Moses Simon |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2: Go and check past FIFA and PES games where you have World and European Legends. You will see Hierro listed there as European Legend. It is not even a debate. Any Madrid fan that says Hierro is not a Legend should stick to watching Nadal play Tennis. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:04pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
KevinDein:delusional does not begin to describe what is wrong with this guy, uncle is stark raving mad. 26-year old Moses past his prime? Mikel that is Messi's age mate is also past his prime? Does that make them less effective? The mumu did not even mention players like Troost, Ndidi, Iwobi and Kelechi that are not past their prime and I'm sure he did it on purpose. If he mentioned those boys, it would defeat his idiotic opinion. Imagine the stupidity from these Zambians and someone is here telling us to not underrate them. By the time our guys finish with those boys, there will be nothing left of Zambian pride. PS: he has the guts to say he doubts the age of our players? These frauds fielded a married man with kids for U20 and have the guts to question the age of others? 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:05pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:Moses Simon that is younger than Victor Moses? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:05pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
“As a defensive midfielder you must be tactically aware. You’re at the heart of the team so you have to hold everything together and allow other players to express themselves. To do this you need to talk a lot and use your brain, because quite often you have to be in the right place at the right time. You have to cover the gap between the midfield and the back four, cover the left and right full-backs when they go forward and the central defenders when they push further up the pitch.”.. . Patrick Vieira. The defensive midfield role is key. It is where most of the work is done. It is just underrated because people look for flamboyance and expression. Those who understand the business of winning know the heroic work goes on here. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:06pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: It's not about stereotypes. The fact is that the game is all about creativity and goals. That is why players who score hattricks go home with the match balls. I am yet to see a player with the most defensive clearance or tackles go home with the match ball. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:11pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Ok do you know that many Argentines consider some players that played with Maradona as legends(me I don't even know the name of those players anymore) but in recent times all you hear is that Maradona won the World Cup single-handedly which means his teammates were average at best. Do you know why? Because those players, despite how good they are, did not do something we haven't seen before. Legendary status changes with generation, maybe for you, you watched Hierro well enough(I watchd him too although not so much because then I was in boarding school) but from some of the matches we have watched that he played, he didn't really do something that I haven't seen past Real players doing and that reduces that legendary status for me TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:11pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:Chei u get me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:12pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
goldfish80: Lol. If you think Creativity and goals is all that matters. No matter how flashy the sports car is, it still needs an engine. Those creative players leave gaps that opponents exploits. Without defensive midfielders, those teams will take loads. Steve McManaman called Makelele "the most important and yet least appreciated midfielder at Real" while Fernando Hierro echoed him, saying: "he's been the best player in the team for years but people just don't notice him". The creative ones might get the praise and glory but they know where the game was won. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:14pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
safarigirl: but you will agree that SM was a better player three years ago(I think that is why he is doubting his age) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2: Tell that to Kanu and Okocha when they faced Spain. Hierro was the one who caused the havoc we fought back. Do you think that pass he gave Raul or the freekick against us was ordinary? Rufai saw that ball going out but the curl on it was superb. You do not get to that status by being ordinary. You can also not judge based on because you did not watch them. Hierro is a legend. Even if you do not know, at least check reviews on him. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:17pm On Oct 02, 2017 |
Mickael2:the SM that played Cameroon is better than anything in the Zambian team, that is all I'm interested in. 2 Likes |
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