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Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
PastorAIO: People have continued to use Gods name before Moses came on board. The conversation Moses had with God isn't contradicting that. It is just that people keep misunderstanding the verse. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 2:59pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
JMAN05: Yes, and also of note is the use of the phrase 'to this day'. This suggested that at least that part was written many many years after moses passed. This is evidence that the books were added to and redacted over the centuries |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 3:00pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
JMAN05: Could you please share how you understand the verse? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 9:01pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Early Use of the Name and Its Meaning. Exodus 3:13-16 and 6:3 are often misapplied to mean that Jehovah’s name was first revealed to Moses sometime prior to the Exodus from Egypt. True, Moses raised the question: “Suppose I am now come to the sons of Israel and I do say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they do say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What shall I say to them?” But this does not mean that he or the Israelites did not know Jehovah’s name. The very name of Moses’ mother Jochebed means, possibly, “Jehovah Is Glory.” (Ex 6:20) Moses’ question likely was related to the circumstances in which the sons of Israel found themselves. They had been in hard slavery for many decades with no sign of any relief. Doubt, discouragement, and weakness of faith in God’s power and purpose to deliver them had very likely infiltrated their ranks. (Note also Eze 20:7, 8.) For Moses simply to say he came in the name of “God” (ʼElo·himʹ) or the “Sovereign Lord” (ʼAdho·naiʹ) therefore might not have meant much to the suffering Israelites. They knew the Egyptians had their own gods and lords and doubtless heard taunts from the Egyptians that their gods were superior to the God of the Israelites. Then, too, we must keep in mind that names then had real meaning and were not just “labels” to identify an individual as today. Moses knew that Abram’s name (meaning “Father Is High (Exalted)”) was changed to Abraham (meaning “Father of a Crowd (Multitude)”), the change being made because of God’s purpose concerning Abraham. So, too, the name of Sarai was changed to Sarah and that of Jacob to Israel; in each case the change revealed something fundamental and prophetic about God’s purpose concerning them. Moses may well have wondered if Jehovah would now reveal himself under some new name to throw light on his purpose toward Israel. Moses’ going to the Israelites in the “name” of the One who sent him meant being the representative of that One, and the greatness of the authority with which Moses would speak would be determined by or be commensurate with that name and what it represented. (Compare Ex 23:20, 21; 1Sa 17:45.) So, Moses’ question was a meaningful one.... (Pls follow this link to get details - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200002391?q=divine+name&p=par) 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 9:18pm On Sep 28, 2017 |
PastorAIO: I wouldn't state that with certainty. "To this day" could be after a month, not necessarily years. That would be adding what you don't know if you ask me. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 12:10pm On Sep 29, 2017 |
JMAN05: He will hold onto anything to find contradiction. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 3:55pm On Sep 29, 2017 |
JMAN05: So what acts did yhwh do after meeting Moses that he didn't do before then that was a full expression of the name YHWH , I Am. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 12:00am On Oct 04, 2017 |
JMAN05: "Professor of Hebrew D. H. Weir therefore rightly says that those who claim (Exodus6:2,3) marks the first time the name Jehovah was revealed, “have not studied [these verses] in the light of other scriptures; otherwise they would have perceived that by name must be meant here not the two syllables which make up the word Jehovah, but the idea which it expresses." |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:14am On Oct 04, 2017 |
truthislight: So what idea did yhwh express after meeting Moses that he didn't express before then that was a full expression of the name YHWH , I Am. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 11:55am On Oct 04, 2017 |
PastorAIO: JMAN05: Whether it was months or years doesn't really change the point that the writings were added to and redacted. You wouldn't say that with certainty. Neither have I said that with certainty. I said that It 'suggests that ... '. In fact you have said nothing with certainty and I've noticed that for quite a while now. It is a technique commonly used by conspiracy theorists. Your posts are littered with phrases like ... JMAN05: Rather than building an argument with certain facts the argument above is built with 'maybes', 'likely', 'may well', 'possibly' etc etc etc. And then from that it jumps to a definite conclusion. Go and buy any wacky conspiracy theory book and notice the same style of argument. 'Maybe the aliens came', and 'Maybe the Aztecs were there', and then 'Possibly there was global communication' and then 'we can't fully rule out the existence of fairies' and then they take all the maybes and possibilities ( no matter how far stretched) and jumped the the firm conclusion that ALIENS CREATED HUMANS. qed. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
PastorAIO: That isn't a thoughtful question. Any person conversant with the scriptures will know what great miracle God perform when Moses started taken the lead. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 2:46pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
PastorAIO: You mean chapter 34? You wouldn't say that with certainty. Neither have I said that with certainty. I said that It 'suggests that ... '. Am not sure you read that article well. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 4:08pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
JMAN05: So what were the great miracles that were performed that weren't performed before Moses? And how did those miracles express the idea of 'Eheieh' , ie 'I Am'. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 4:12pm On Oct 05, 2017 |
JMAN05: Unless I mistakenly read all the parts of the article where arguments were built on 'possibly', 'likely' and 'might'. Were those words not used to present the points on which the argument is based. you mean chapter 34 No, I mean the claim that the bible was never redacted or revised. In chapter 34 we see a clear example which you have admitted where an addition was made to an orginal text. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 9:37am On Oct 06, 2017 |
JMAN05: Early Use of the Name and Its Meaning are often misapplied to mean that Jehovah’s name was first revealed to Moses sometime prior to the Exodus from Egypt. True, Moses raised the question: “Suppose I am now come to the sons of Israel and I do say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they do say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What shall I say to them?” But this does not mean that he or the Israelites did not know Jehovah’s name. The very name of Moses’ mother Jochebed means, possibly, “Jehovah Is Glory.” ( ) Moses’ question likely was related to the circumstances in which the sons of Israel found themselves. They had been in hard slavery for many decades with no sign of any relief. Doubt, discouragement, and weakness of faith in God’s power and purpose to deliver them had very likely infiltrated their ranks. (Note also .) For Moses simply to say he came in the name of “God” (ʼElo·himʹ ) or the “Sovereign Lord” (ʼAdho·naiʹ ) therefore might not have meant much to the suffering Israelites. They knew the Egyptians had their own gods and lords and doubtless heard taunts from the Egyptians that their gods were superior to the God of the Israelites. Then, too, we must keep in mind that names then had real meaning and were not just “labels” to identify an individual as today. Moses knew that Abram’s name (meaning “Father Is High (Exalted)”) was changed to Abraham (meaning “Father of a Crowd (Multitude)”), the change being made because of God’s purpose concerning Abraham. So, too, the name of Sarai was changed to Sarah and that of Jacob to Israel; in each case the change revealed something fundamental and prophetic about God’s purpose concerning them. Moses may well have wondered if Jehovah would now reveal himself under some new name to throw light on his purpose toward Israel. Moses’ going to the Israelites in the “name” of the One who sent him meant being the representative of that One, and the greatness of the authority with which Moses would speak would be determined by or be commensurate with that name and what it represented. (Compare .) So, Moses’ question was a meaningful one. God’s reply in Hebrew was: ʼEh·yehʹ ʼAsherʹ ʼEh·yehʹ. Some translations render this as “I AM THAT I AM.” However, it is to be noted that the Hebrew verb ha·yahʹ, from which the word ʼEh·yehʹ is drawn, does not mean simply “be.” Rather, it means “become,” or “prove to be.” The reference here is not to God’s self-existence but to what he has in mind to become toward others. Therefore, the New World Translation properly renders the above Hebrew expression as “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.” Jehovah thereafter added: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘I SHALL PROVE TO BE has sent me to you.’”— , ftn. That this meant no change in God’s name, but only an additional insight into God’s personality, is seen from his further words: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation.” ( ; compare .) The name Jehovah comes from a Hebrew verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars suggest that the name means “He Causes to Become.” This definition well fits Jehovah’s role as the Creator of all things and the Fulfiller of his purpose. Only the true God could rightly and authentically bear such a name. This aids one in understanding the sense of Jehovah’s later statement to Moses: “I am Jehovah. And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.” ( ) Since the name Jehovah was used many times by those patriarchal ancestors of Moses, it is evident that God meant that he manifested himself to them in the capacity of Jehovah only in a limited way. To illustrate this, those who had known the man Abram could hardly be said to have really known him as Abraham (meaning “Father of a Crowd (Multitude)”) while he had but one son, Ishmael. When Isaac and other sons were born and began producing offspring, the name Abraham took on greater meaning or import. So, too, the name Jehovah would now take on expanded meaning for the Israelites. To “know,” therefore, does not necessarily mean merely to be acquainted with or cognizant of something or someone. The foolish Nabal knew David’s name but still asked, “Who is David?” in the sense of asking, “What does he amount to?” ( ; compare .) So, too, Pharaoh had said to Moses: “Who is Jehovah, so that I should obey his voice to send Israel away? I do not know Jehovah at all and, what is more, I am not going to send Israel away.” ( ) By that, Pharaoh evidently meant that he did not know Jehovah as the true God or as having any authority over Egypt’s king and his affairs, nor as having any might to enforce His will as announced by Moses and Aaron. But now Pharaoh and all Egypt, along with the Israelites, would come to know the real meaning of that name, the person it represented. As Jehovah showed Moses, this would result from God’s carrying out His purpose toward Israel, liberating them, giving them the Promised Land, and thereby fulfilling His covenant with their forefathers. In this way, as God said, “You will certainly know that I am Jehovah your God.”— ; see ALMIGHTY . Professor of Hebrew D. H. Weir therefore rightly says that those who claim marks the first time the name Jehovah was revealed, “have not studied [these verses] in the light of other scriptures; otherwise they would have perceived that by name must be meant here not the two syllables which make up the word Jehovah, but the idea which it expresses. When we read in , ‘Therefore my people shall know my name;’ or in , ‘They shall know that my name is Jehovah;’ or in the Psalms, ], ‘They that know thy name shall put their trust in thee;’ we see at once that to know Jehovah’s name is something very different from knowing the four letters of which it is composed. It is to know by experience that Jehovah rea 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 2:12pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
truthislight: Please address the parts that I bolded and highlighted in red. They are the basis of this interpretation and they are all obviously speculations. Moses’ question likely was related to the Really? What about when Jacob asked the very same question? 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. Genesis 32 What were the circumstances of Israel when Jacob asked that same question? What about the fact that in those ancient times to know the name of a god was considered as having the power to summon the god? Now the Majesty of Ra was the creator of heaven and earth, of gods, men, and cattle, of fire, and the breath of life; and he ruled over gods and men. And Isis saw his might, the might that reached over heaven and earth, before which all gods and men bowed; and she longed in her heart for that power, that thereby she should be greater than the gods and have dominion over men. There was but one way to obtain that power. By the knowledge of his own name did Ra rule, and none but himself knew that secret name. Whosoever could learn the secret, to that one—god or man—would belong the dominion over all the world, and even Ra himself must be in subjection. Jealously did Ra guard his secret, and kept it ever in his breast, lest it should be taken from him, and his power diminished. http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ael/ael13.htm A true name is a name of a thing or being that expresses, or is somehow identical to, its true nature. The notion that language, or some specific sacred language, refers to things by their true names has been central to philosophical study as well as various traditions of magic, religious invocation and mysticism (mantras) since antiquity. The ancient Jews considered God's true name so potent that its invocation conferred upon the speaker tremendous power over His creations. To prevent abuse of this power, as well as to avoid blasphemy, the name of God was always taboo, and increasingly disused so that by the time of Jesus their High Priest was supposedly the only individual who spoke it aloud — and then only in the Holy of Holies upon the Day of Atonement.[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_name These are facts about the attitude of ancient people to names. Even in yoruba till this day they believe that if you can know the true Oriki of an object you will access all the powers inherent in the objects. These names form the incantations which are used to prepare herbs and various objects for various uses. Now if the people of Israel already knew the name 'Jehovah' and Moses was told to tell them that 'jehovah' sent him then what a nonsense to say that Elohim or Adonai 'would not have meant much to them'. It wouldn't have meant anymore or anyless than Jehovah which they knew a long time already. Yet in all this you haven't demonstrated how Jehovah changed after he revealed his name to Moses. What did he do thereafter that he hadn't done before. Did he kill more people than he killed in the flood? Did he confuse the languages of the Whole world tenfold? Did he make a barren woman have children, like Sarah? What exactly did he do that reflects the name Jehovah that he hadn't done before? Now, on the name Jehovah, your write up now demonstrates a willingness to go against the entirety of Theology just to wriggle out of this tight spot. You have now resorted to making God a temporal Creature. Subject to time like everything else. you changed 'I Am' to 'I am becoming'. Either the writer is theologically and philosophically daft or he is just trying to be disingenuous. Talkng about the relation of the verb Ehyer to Hayah. These are just tenses. They are related the same way Running is related to Ran, or Will Run. Past tense, present tense, future tense, Present continuous.... etc. That is not the idea that the name represents to Jews, certainly not to Jesus. To become means that you are evolving. You become what you were not yesterday. I become great means that I wasn't great before. Becoming occurs in time/temporally so in order for Jehovah to become he has to be subject to Time. This idea transcends the Hebrew language and can be translated into other languages ( so there is no hiding behind any fake hebrew ha'yah, which is actually the past tense ). In fact it is translated to Greek in the New Testament. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58 'I am' in Greek is Ego Eimi. Jesus did not say before Abraham I am becoming. The idea is that he transcends time, this is Jesus' understanding of the name of God but then if you feel you know more than Jesus in this matter I cannot hold you. The joke inside is that some people like Muttleylaff who isn't even a JW will jump on the bandwagon because he thinks that it is a way out of the cesspit that he has dug himself into. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by MuttleyLaff: 10:59pm On Oct 07, 2017 |
PastorAIO: ![]() My reaction when I read my mention and all you wrote about it You can't see the wood for the trees and thats why you dont understand the joke (i.e. YHWH, aka Yahweh, or aka Jehovah, the personal name of God) The joke is a very serious thing and if there's truth behind the joke inside then my way of joking, to tell the truth, it shall be Who ever laughs, before hearing the punchline to a joke anyway? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 4:35am On Oct 09, 2017 |
PastorAIO: From the time Moses appeared before pharaoh till he led them to the wilderness before his death, tell me that all such miracles had been performed before Gods servants prior to Moses. So you need references? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 4:53am On Oct 09, 2017 |
PastorAIO: I just wonder where all these are coming from. You stated that the books attributed to Moses were not written by him. You stated that they were written after his demise. I came to point out the mistake in which your view was based. You now state: Whether it was months or years doesn't really change the point that the writings were added to and redacted. In response to "this day", you stated this. Now, your position that Moses had died before the writing of the Torah is without logical proof, you can only make a case on chapter 34. Now stating that the writing[b]s[/b] were redacted or added to as in the Torah is hilarious. If your point is not on chapter 34 alone, then you are set on a default. What are the proofs? 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 9:01am On Oct 09, 2017 |
JMAN05: I don't need references. I asked a question which was two fold. 1. What great acts did Yahweh do that he didn't do the like of before moses. What did he do in Egypt that was greater than flooding the whole world with water? What did he do that was greater than confounding the language of the whole world. What did he do that was more than making a geriatric woman bear a child? What did he do that was greater than destroying two great cities with a fire from heaven? 2. How did the acts subsequent to meeting Moses reflect the meaning of his name 'I Am who I am'? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 9:05am On Oct 09, 2017 |
JMAN05: There is no mistake on which my view is based. The fact that Moses' death was reported in chapter 34 is clear evidence that the book was not written by Moses. Perhaps it was based on writing by Moses in part but the book as we have it was BOT written by Moses. Unless you want to argue that chapter 34 is not a part of the Torah. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 9:08am On Oct 09, 2017 |
JMAN05: Is chapter 34 not a part of the Torah again? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Flooding the whole earth was Abraham Isaac and Jacob there when it happened? Were they there when languages were scattered? An old woman bear a child was not a miracle Isaac and Jacob saw. Again all those performances were little compared to what God did in the view of many Israelites. I don't know what u are up against honestly. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 10:13pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO: But you stated "writings". Don't make it sound as if all moses writings are questionable. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 10:16pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO: No, it is not a clear evidence that the book was not written by Moses. I hate it when people try to force there opinion on where there isn't any evidence. Let chap 34 be the issue here while I research on that. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by MuttleyLaff: 11:30pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PastorAIO:God said it already that He did all those as El-Shaddai aka God Almighty Two words, in a way that arouses curiosity or interest, were used in Exodus 6:3. They are "appeared" and "revealed" PastorAIO:Wouldnt you like to know, ha-ha-haaah JMAN05:The condition, the background, the setting for all those performances are different to those of the Isrealites Interestingly, "reveal my name, Yahweh, to them" is about making the important information known, especially one of a personal nature, where God is going to do whatever it is and/or that's necessary, to free the Israelites or where God, embarking on freeing the Israelites and bringing them to Canaan is showing the willingness to be whatever it will take God to be, in having the Israelites free and brought to Canaan. That is the essense of the meaning of YHWH, I will exist because I will exist, I exist because I exist, I Am who I Am, I will be who I will be, I Am who I Am, I am that which exist etcetera Note that I used etcetera and mind you PastorAIO, I used it for obvious and very good reasons This essence was not revealed to Abraham, to Isaac nor to Jacob JMAN05:All you need to know is that, he is barking up against the wrong tree, gnawing on a wrong bone The 2:12pm On Oct 07 post has too many faux pas and more holes than a Swiss cheese If not, how can he be juxtaposing English tenses with biblical Hebrew tenses (i.e. a language based on time with a language based on action) 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 12:52pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
JMAN05: Oh, you want to stick to just Abraham Isaac and Jacob even though the bible says that people started calling the name Jehovah from the time that Seth gave birth to Enosh. Genesis 4: 26 So what happened, they knew the name of Jehovah from the time of Seth but then they had forgotten by the time of Abraham (or what). Please tell me the Miracle that yhwh performed in egypt that was greater than what he did in Genesis 19 when he rained down fire and sulphur from heaven to come and destroy 2 whole cities and all the surrounding valleys. This was even in the lifetime of Abraham sef. Further more how did the miracles in egypt reveal the meaning of the name Jahweh (I am who I am)? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 12:54pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
JMAN05: The point is simple. We know that Chapter34 was not written by Moses. Chapter 34 is part of the Torah. So therefore the Torah, at least in it's entirety, was not all written by moses. Some redaction has taken place and Chapter 34 is a glaring example of that. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 12:57pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
JMAN05: You can research all you like, but once you can admit that Chapter 34 was not written by moses, and chapter 34 is a part of the torah, then it follows that the Torah, in it's entirety, was not written by Moses. Very simple, really. And it's not a matter of opinion, it is a glaring fact. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:06pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: The question was simple. What did he do as Yahweh that was Greater than what he did as El Shaddai? Wouldnt you like to know, ha-ha-haaah Ah! You don't know!! no wahala. Interestingly, "reveal my name, Yahweh, to them" is about making the important information known, especially one of a personal nature, Lolololol!! Alawada Oshi!! From simple I am that I am you are now extrapolating to I will have to be whatever is necessary for me to have to be. You have now reduced your god to something that is subject to necessity. http://metaphysicist.com/problems/necessity/ Of course, I recognised that to be true for a long time now and that is why I know that that egregore that you worship is not the true Divinity. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by MuttleyLaff: 8:18am On Oct 13, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Your question is not valid because the reasoning behind it, is not valid PastorAIO:What you dont know, is that it has nothing to do with "what did He do as Yahweh that was Greater than what he did as El Shaddai" You're barking up against the wrong tree, and gnawing on a wrong bone with that your ridiculous "what did He do that was greater than what He did as El Shaddai" sound bite PastorAIO:That's you. You are, the entertaining Alawada kerikeri free comedy here PastorAIO:God replied to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you." - Exodus 3:14 No one is extrapolating anywhere or needs to extrapolate. Context my dear friend, context, context is king, Hebrew verbs are understood in relation to the context Look at Exodus 3:14 properly again, then return back with what the word "eh-yeh" which is transliterated as "hayah" means and what's the meaning of the "I AM WHO I AM" phrase as used in that context and language. Whilst at it, please dont mix together english tenses with biblical Hebrew tenses PastorAIO:Shàkì, to nsé bí òráà. Lolololol!! the real Alawada Oshi!! What an unnecessary and pitiable misuse of the word "egregore" OK, please convincingly define God and god(s) then. Exhaustively and to the best of your understanding do this for me please Do it without holding back, give all your definitions, examples and/or explanations, like as if your life depended on it Give your perspective, your posturing (i.e. behave in a way that is intended to impress) |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Nobody: 2:15am On Oct 14, 2017 |
PastorAIO: If your position is that Moses didnt right A-Z all contained in the Torah, you may be right. But saying he is not the writer of the Torah is a mistake because he didn't have to write every letter in it to be the writer of that book. So the Israelites didn't make any mistake by viewing moses as the writer of that book. Whether the laat piece was providentially added doesn't change anything. That the Torah was viewed as the book of moses shows that that last piece wasn't added independently. My words is that you don't make it sound as if all Moses writings have issues as to the writer. |
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