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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Petrobros: 8:55am On Oct 10, 2017
Icon4s:
Tammy's career is on the rise. He looks very promising.

The sooner we get him into the mix the better.

I don't too easily recommend young players but I do so when I see one that is very promising.

Oga wait, which young players you don ever recommend here?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:55am On Oct 10, 2017
Where you there? And it's nowhere online. I remember Rohr saying Agu came in at a time the match was high in intensity... never said Agu had a disappointing match.

Kog45:
Post match interview
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CLT123(m): 8:55am On Oct 10, 2017
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John Ogu, Etebo & Iheanacho Will Play Against Algeria – Eagles Coach Rohr Suggest
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A much changed but strong senior national team of Nigeria will be lined up by coach Gernot Rohr when the Eagles take on Algeria in their final World Cup 2018 Qualifiers in Algiers.

Nigeria are already through to the World Cup in Russia courtesy of their 1-0 win over Zambia on Saturday in Uyo, but Rohr insist they will approach the game with the seriousness it deserves.

A whole lot of players will be given the chance to showcase themselves in the game according to Rohr as he wants to provide every player with a chance to stake a claim for a start.

It means players like John Ogu, Oghenekaro Etebo, Kelechi Iheanacho, Anthony Nwakaeme and co who have been frozen out of the starting line up are going to be strong contenders to start in Algiers.

” We never go to a match with second team, we want to win our last match as well. At least not to lose so we can qualify without losing any game, it will be wonderful this is another challenge but I think we will play a second friendly game perhaps in Morocco to see all the players who couldn’t play in our previous games”, the coach said.


Maxwell Pius

Owngoal
Iheanacho won't do well with Etebo playing the #10 role.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:57am On Oct 10, 2017
Icon4s:


My point is bring Tammy into the mix as quickly as possible. And get him involved in the build ups to the world cup for quick integration.


I have seen him play a couple of time in the EPL and and can see the great potential in him for his age.

It would be difficult to get Tammy considering his involvement with England's u21. Guy is neck deep in. There are so many factors involved and even for the young man I know this is going to be distressing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:58am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
Where you there? And it's nowhere online. I remember Rohr saying Agu came in at a time the match was high in intensity... never said Agu had a disappointing match.

Exactly. Never read where Rohr said that. In fact it is precisely because of my readings on what Rohr said about Agu that I'm beginning to feel he sees something in that guy most of us ain't seeing. Even after the second leg against Cameroon Rohr defended his decision to field Agu ahead of Ogu in his Channels TV interview.

Me thinks he wants to groom that guy. Remember Rohr handled a young Zidane, Lizarazu etc

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:02am On Oct 10, 2017
Petrobros:


Oga wait, which young players you don ever recommend here?

Ah.

OK o.

Those that have been long on this thread knew how I spotted the young Alex Iwobi and clamored for his capture.

I first saw Oghenekaro Etebo as a Warri Wolves player. I recommended him to the national team.

I personally stood for Shehu Abdullahi when many wanted him out just because he plays in Cyprus.


As I said I don't recommend too many but I do so when I see the potentials.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:03am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
Rohr NEVER said that. What's your source?
www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid24943
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:03am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
which chances did he miss? oya list the occasions


43' - Ighalo with a half-chance under pressure from Tembo, but he volleys off target.

71' - A great counter attack for Nigeria, but Ighalo opts to try and cut back rather than shoot first time and the move breaks down!

http://www.nigerianeye.com/2017/10/live-commentary-nigeria-vs-zambia.html?m=0

Unfortunately, I do not rewatch matches to start highlighting times of incidents. However, this will give you a clue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:04am On Oct 10, 2017
I actually read this yesterday in another source but didn't want to put it here because some of us dont know how to analyze. But I must say it now since it's here already..
This guy is just being professional about responding to the rumors. Good PR! He never turned down Nigeria. He only said the report wasn't true. And the fact is Tammy never said he had switched to Nigeria. Even Pinnick never said Tammy did. You don't choose a country with mouth, but action. The process is on.

@ first bolded. Keeping it under wraps. I said this yesterday
@ second bolded. The block brackets is suggestive. "Nothing has happened" actually means nothing is official yet.
The following remark after the bolded is feigning ignorance.

soetanoreoluwa:
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England U21's Tammy Abraham flattered by Nigeria interest

11:52 PM WAT
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Tammy Abraham admits he is flattered by Nigeria's interest but vowed to stay focused on the England Under-21s.

The striker is expected to spearhead the Young Lions' attack when they travel to Andorra on Tuesday to continue their Euro 2019 qualifying campaign.

Abraham scored and grabbed an assist in Friday's 3-1 win over Scotland Under-21s having already denied he was planning to switch allegiances to Nigeria.

Under-21 boss Aidy Boothroyd is wary of losing his players, with Sheyi Ojo and Dominic Solanke also eligible for Nigeria, but Abraham remains happy with England.

"There are a lot of things going on and for me that is a sign you are doing something right, if Nigeria are fighting for you and England want you as well," said Swansea's on-loan Chelsea forward.

"I'm happy right now and I just want to keep playing my football. Nothing has happened [in terms of the Nigeria FA contacting]. I'm not too sure what is going on."

And Abraham is ready to take on Andorra, who lost 6-0 to Ukraine last month, at the Estadi Comunal in Andorra la Vella.

"We're in control of the group but we can't take our foot off the gas. We need to take confidence into every game and make sure we get the results we need," he said.

Boothroyd reiterated the point, warning his side they are not basketball team the Harlem Globetrotters and that they must respect Andorra.

The Young Lions boss wants his team to ensure they have the substance before they turn on the style as they aim to maintain their position at the top of Group 4.

He said: "My players are so skillful and comfortable on the ball that one of my biggest concerns is that sometimes they can be too elaborate on the ball.

"I keep telling them that we are not the Harlem Globetrotters and we are not here to do tricks.

"We can express ourselves by all means, but we are here to play as a team and we know when we come up against the big-hitters there will be no time for all that.

"We have some deadly players up front. My biggest challenge is to turn them into a team and a squad that is bigger than the sum of its parts." [/img]


http://kwese.espn.com/football/england-u21/story/3225023/england-u21s-tammy-abraham-flattered-by-nigeria-interest
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05am On Oct 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

Exactly. Never read where Rohr said that. In fact it is precisely because of my readings on what Rohr said about Agu that I'm beginning to feel he sees something in that guy most of us ain't seeing. Even after the second leg against Cameroon Rohr defended his decision to field Agu ahead of Ogu in his Channels TV interview.

Me thinks he wants to groom that guy. Remember Rohr handled a young Zidane, Trezeguet etc

Not Trezeguet. That was Jean Tigana. Rohr handled Zidane, Bixente Lizarazu and Cristoph Dugarry (Brilliant talents.)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:07am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
I actually read this yesterday in another source but didn't want to put it here because some of us dont know how to analyze. But I must say it now since it's here already..
This guy is just being professional about responding to the rumors. Good PR! He never turned down Nigeria. He only said the report wasn't true. And the fact is Tammy never said he had switched to Nigeria. Even Pinnick never said Tammy did. You don't choose a country with mouth, but action. The process is on.

@ first bolded. Keeping it under wraps. I said this yesterday
@ second bolded. The block brackets is suggestive. "Nothing has happened" actually means nothing is official yet.


What is he under wrapping? Are we under wrappers? Either he wants to play for us or he wants to play for England.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:07am On Oct 10, 2017
Kog45:
Post match interview(www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid 24943)
There's nothing on that link connected to Rohr or Agu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 9:08am On Oct 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha @great Islamic law scholar (I don forget much on Islamic law oo, that was then).
My issue is be positive about the team. Even if we going to face Brazil, should we just resign ourselves and conclude that we'd be beaten? No! What if Zambia had concluded ooo they have stars, ohhh Mikel, ohh Moses, would they have put up such a gallant, vigorous show? You see how though we beat them we are all giving them their due for being worthy opponents That's just it. You gotta fight, push, give it your best. Your views make it impossible to do so.

Now on the tears thing - you win some, you lose some. Brazil, Spain, France, Italy, Germany can tell you that.
maybe....but i prefee tobbe frank atimes .....let the truth be said at all times
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:08am On Oct 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Not Trezeguet. That was Jean Tigana. Rohr handled Zidane, Bixente Lizarazu and Cristoph Dugarry (Brilliant talents.)
Thanks. I sensed I was wrong on Trezeguet.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:09am On Oct 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

It would be difficult to get Tammy considering his involvement with England's u21. Guy is neck deep in. There are so many factors involved and even for the young man I know this is going to be distressing.

Sure I know.

The think is I am not comfortable with Ighalo being our top striker in the WC.

He is not clinical enough.

And also Iheanacho is not getting the desired game time at Leicester.

We need a striker that is very active in a competitive league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:11am On Oct 10, 2017
hahaha I remember those situations very well. If you followed my ratings and post match analysis you will notice I mentioned those. That so called half chance, the angle was also limited when the defender challenged. I won't call that a half chance really, and his choices were limited.
Many strikers would have either ballooned the ball like he did ,or the defender would have blocked. Special players though would have converted. Even if you want to call it a half chance, how could you really fault him. The one he scored against Cameroon, was that a clear chance?

The second, he would have had a decent chance to strike with his left foot, than delay.. Most of our players were under pressure to win. Even Rohr said this. Ighalo had a decent match all round.


TheGoodJoe:


43' - Ighalo with a half-chance under pressure from Tembo, but he volleys off target.

71' - A great counter attack for Nigeria, but Ighalo opts to try and cut back rather than shoot first time and the move breaks down!

http://www.nigerianeye.com/2017/10/live-commentary-nigeria-vs-zambia.html?m=0

Unfortunately, I do not rewatch matches to start highlighting times of incidents. However, this will give you a clue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:12am On Oct 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


43' - Ighalo with a half-chance under pressure from Tembo, but he volleys off target.

71' - A great counter attack for Nigeria, but Ighalo opts to try and cut back rather than shoot first time and the move breaks down!

http://www.nigerianeye.com/2017/10/live-commentary-nigeria-vs-zambia.html?m=0

Unfortunately, I do not rewatch matches to start highlighting times of incidents. However, this will give you a clue.

That second wasted move in particular almost made me break my TV screen.

Had that chance that fell to Iwobi fell to Ighalo that game would have ended goalless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:13am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
hahaha I remember those situations very well. If you followed my ratings and post match analysis you will notice I mentioned those. That so called half chance, the angle was also limited when the defender challenged. I won't call that a half chance really, and his choices were limited.
Many strikers would have either ballooned the ball like he did ,or the defender would have blocked. Special players though would have converted. Even if you want to call it a half chance, how could you really fault him. The one he scored against Cameroon, was that a clear chance?

The second, he would have had a decent chance to strike with his left foot, than delay.. Most of our players were under pressure to win. Even Rohr said this. Ighalo had a decent match all round.


Jobie i always gbadun u
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:14am On Oct 10, 2017
Afobear:
maybe....but i prefee tobbe frank atimes .....let the truth be said at all times
I understand that most fans deal with the fear of failure by lowering their expectations. I watched our match in a viewing centre and one man was talking down on this team comparing them to the Eagles of the golden beat. I got into hot talk with him. I was surprised when we scored and he came to shake and hug me. That moment I realised that all his criticisms then was just his own way to deal with the pressure. Some guys go dey insult babe wey deep inside them like.

Just be positive in your frankness.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:14am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
hahaha I remember those situations very well. If you followed my ratings and post match analysis you will notice I mentioned those. That so called half chance, the angle was also limited when the defender challenged. I won't call that a half chance really, and his choices were limited.
Many strikers would have either ballooned the ball like he did ,or the defender would have blocked. Special players though would have converted. Even if you want to call it a half chance, how could you really fault him. The one he scored against Cameroon, was that a clear chance?

The second, he would have had a decent chance to strike with his left foot, than delay.. Most of our players were under pressure to win. Even Rohr said this. Ighalo had a decent match all round.



I am not trying to crucify Ighalo. Just pointing out the bias criticism Iheanacho gets. Ighalo worked hard but as I pointed earlier, I am not into that big number nine thing. It suits conservative football but far from the best modern approaches that rain goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:15am On Oct 10, 2017
Icon4s:

Sure I know.
The think is I am not comfortable with Ighalo being our top striker in the WC.
He is not clinical enough.
And also Iheanacho is not getting the desired game time at Leicester.
We need a striker that is very active in a competitive league.
And I don't trust that Nwakaeme. I don't know why.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:16am On Oct 10, 2017
I know we are not used to that level of professionalism in this part of the world. We just talk anyhow.

Can you give me names of a few players that have announced their switch on interviews or papers?


TheGoodJoe:


What is he under wrapping? Are we under wrappers? Either he wants to play for us or he wants to play for England.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:16am On Oct 10, 2017
Icon4s:


That second wasted move in particular almost made me break my TV screen.

Had that chance that fell to Iwobi fell to Ighalo that game would have ended goalless.

I agree with that too. Ighalo needs to work on getting sharper while attacking. His decision-making looks slow to me and shaves fraction of time when he is to react and produce goals.

At least he worked hard but not convincing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 9:17am On Oct 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

I understand that most fans deal with the fear of failure by lowering their expectations. I watched our match in a viewing centre and one man was talking down on this team comparing them to the Eagles of the golden beat. I got into hot talk with him. I was surprised when we scored and he came to shake and hug me. That moment I realised that all his criticisms then was just his own way to deal with the pressure. Some guys go dey insult babe wey deep inside them like.

Just be positive in your frankness.
i do that always ......the latter
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:19am On Oct 10, 2017
Good. I don't buy into those comparisons of Ighalo and Iheanacho. But I must say all-round play Ighalo has more strengths than Iheanacho. Iheanacho, however, has a better sense of positioning and quick reaction..

TheGoodJoe:


I am not trying to crucify Ighalo. Just pointing out the bias criticism Iheanacho gets. Ighalo worked hard but as I pointed earlier, I am not into that big number nine thing. It suits conservative football but far from the best modern approaches that rain goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:19am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
I know we are not used to that level of professionalism in this part of the world. We just talk anyhow.

Can you give me names of a few players that have announced their switch on interviews or papers?



What is announcing switch? The NFF chairman took the liberty of contacting him, meeting with him. Is the form text book? He has not made up his mind. Finito. That means, he is still waiting for Tunde's proposal.

He is even saying he is still focused on the U21. That means, he is not even filling the form. He even said in that post he does not even know what is going on.

That boy should fear God.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:20am On Oct 10, 2017
thanks my boss

Kog45:
Jobie i always gbadun u
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:21am On Oct 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

And I don't trust that Nwakaeme. I don't know why.

That one.

I call him "jam body striker".

The problem is we have so many strikers but none is a stand out.

Iheanacho, well he is still up and coming but his rise has not progressed as much as most expected. He is the only striker among the lots we I have that is most likely to make the WC squad. Ighalo too may squeeze through.

We need some one like Abraham. Having Abraham and Iheanacho together in your team would be mind burbling.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:21am On Oct 10, 2017
Joebie:
Good. I don't buy into those comparisons of Ighalo and Iheanacho. But I must say all-round play Ighalo has more strengths than Iheanacho. Iheanacho, however, has a better sense of positioning and quick reaction..


I disagree in all round play. Ighalo has power and hold up play. Finish.

Nacho is faster, presses better, a better passer, a better crosser, a better finisher and has more movement in and out of the box than Ighalo.

Ighalo suits a conservative system. Iheanacho suits and offensive one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:23am On Oct 10, 2017
Icon4s:


That one.

I call him "jam body striker".

The problem is we have so many strikers but none is a stand out.

Iheanacho, well he is still up and coming but his rise has not progressed as much as most expected. He is the only striker among the lots we I have that is most likely to make the WC squad. Ighalo too may squeeze through.

We need some one like Abraham. Having Abraham and Iheanacho together in your team would be mind burbling.

I still believe Onyekuru is better hitman than Tammy. The challenge Onyekuru faces is variance. He suits a similar system like Iheanacho but Tammy can function in a conservative/defensive system.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:26am On Oct 10, 2017
Na because I no list wetin I mean by all-round.. Abi didn't Iheanacho come in against Cameroon in Yaounde?
I don't agree with the bolded though.. I think you are a little extreme with your comparison. As Mujtahida rightly said, there are some gray areas.


TheGoodJoe:


I disagree in all round play. Ighalo has power and hold up play. Finish.

Nacho is faster, presses better, a better passer, a better crosser, a better finisher and has more movement in and out of the box than Ighalo.

Ighalo suits a conservative system. Iheanacho suits and offensive one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:27am On Oct 10, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


What is he under wrapping? Are we under wrappers? Either he wants to play for us or he wants to play for England.
Black and white again. Yes those are the options but it's not so straight forward. Even Iwobi had it tough. It's never easy when a man is caught between two good options.

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