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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:27am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Even at Watford he was best at scoring the lone ranger (one on one) kind of goals, the type he scored against Cameroon. We also need a striker that scores from crosses: header, tap-ins, jab ins and so on. No be only jam body goal. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:28am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Hahaha.. I'm sure you see no problem with how Pinnick informed us and everyone.. You do really like to be updated on the pages of papers.. There is another world out there besides the world of a consumer. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:30am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:Oga icon4s u be boss here,pls i want u to tell us d striker now,agreed Nacho is warming bench,Ighalo not too clinical. Pls let's go down to memory lane,Westerhoff era,we have Yekini,Amokachie, Siasia as d strikers but i can tell u they are not our best in Europe as at that time but d best in national team. Hope u remember Richard Owubokiri in Boavista,d second best striker in d whole Europe but couldn't break into Eagles, Did u remember Mike Obiku in Feyenord,Chris Ohenhen in Compostela in LA liga. These are in form player and superb strikers who are supposed to be in d team but Westerhoff believe National team was a different ball games and he stick to his team especially Samson Siasia who was finding it difficult in Europe. Despite Efan Ekoku high profile with Norwich he find it difficult to break into XI,if I can remember Ekoku only had a game against Zaire. My question is this where are d strikers that are better,if we can get them no issue,national team belongs to all players. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:31am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Tammy is a typical CF while Onyekuru is a WF. You are right about his similarities with Iheanacho. Tammy would just fit in perfectly well given the short time the national team has to prepare for matches. But for Onyekuru you need to groom him into that position just like we are doing for Iheanacho. And this may take some time. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:34am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:He wasted that second chance. He should have been on point like Iwobi. Iwobi saved Ighalo. Should we have drawn or lost that match he'd be a goner. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:35am On Oct 10, 2017 |
jam body goal? haha we go manage am.. Moses cross when Ighalo classily jumped over for Mikel to convert nko. Ighalo is a team player.. I like his all-round play.. if he doesn't score he is very likely to assist. He is our best striker at the moment.. Those calling for his head now forget that Iheanacho also fired blanks for SE sometimes, and they blamed Iheanacho then for this and that. hahaha na wa.. why we like to flip-flop na. Icon4s: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:36am On Oct 10, 2017 |
jam body goal? haha we go manage am.. Moses cross when Ighalo classily jumped over for Mikel to convert nko. Ighalo is a team player.. I like his all-round play.. if he doesn't score he is very likely to assist. He is our best striker at the moment..The goal Simon scored nko.. he worked so hard for it.. even the one Simon missed with bicycle kick.. Iheanacho can't contribute like that.. That's the kind of strengths Iheanacho don't posses. But Iheanacho also has his that is missing in Ighalo's game. Those calling for his head now forget that Iheanacho also fired blanks for SE sometimes, and they blamed Iheanacho then for this and that. hahaha na wa.. why we like to flip-flop na. Icon4s: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:37am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Please I don't understand this big number nine you talking about. Is it in reference to the physical build of the striker or the importance of the position cos I keep looking for the bigness of Ighalo but ain't seeing it. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:40am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Ehen, he should work harder. If we can get a better nine good for us. He would be back up. I don't see Nwakaeme cutting it(and I concede I might be wrong). 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:41am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie:You have chewed the Kolanut at the right spot. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:46am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:What about Dessers, Bonaventure? What do you think? Hype or the real deal? I wan play, I wan play no mean say when you come play you go play well cos from watching football I have realised that club and national football ain't the same. Club is an indicator though. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:51am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Kog45: Good question. But let me respond to the other parts of your comments first. Those names you mentioned: Richard Owobokiri, Mike Obiku and Chris Ohenhen were no where near the qualities of Yekini, Amokachi and Siasia as at that 1993-94 period. Efan Ekoku. That flop. With all the rantings then about how he was better than Yekini. Only for him to miss a simple tap in against Zaire at the Q/Final of the 1994 AFCON. Can you compare the present qualities of Ighalo, Nwakaeme and Iheanacho even add Kayode to those of Yekini, Amokachi and Siasia of 94? The era of Martins, Yakubu, Osaze, Utaka, Ike Uche was even better than this current strike force. This is a challenge and we have to recognize and address it. That is my point. We are Nigeria. We are known for producing quality strikers. We have standards. Now, to which striker is better than Ighalo and Iheanacho (even though i know the view from where you are coming from but let me answer straight) I am not saying outrightly that Tammy is better but he has a potential of doing better than Ighalo come June next year. This is a boy that has distinguished himself as a youth player for both club and country( England). Sent on loan to Swansea by his parent club didn't waste time in ceasing a starting place, something even Iheanacho could not do. Tammy's career is on the rise and if he continues playing for Swansea week in week out would have grown into a more matured goals poacher by next summer. I hope Iheanacho's fortune improves at Leicester, but Ighalo I am not sure we'll see any improvements in his game from now to June next year. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:52am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Club football vs World Cup. Which country plays 3-4-3? Just curious. Italy under Conte , Holland under Van Gaal? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:53am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie:He presses better like he did against Algeria and South Africa. Dude just scores. Finito |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:55am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: You get the point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:58am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: These are also bright youngsters. But what is the status of their nationality issues? Also add Peter Olayinka to that pool. And you are right about club football being different from national team football. Some players even deliver more at national team level than at club level. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:59am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Moses, Abdullahi Named In World Cup Qualfiers Best XI 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:59am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:Truly we are limited upfront ooo. When we meet a team with a more compact defence we will be exposed cos we don't shoot from outside the box, we don't score from free kicks, corners, headers. Of our eleven goals so far ten have come from within the box. Only Ighalo's goal was from outside. Look at Germany, France and Spain shooting goals from outside. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:04am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie: Lol at 'Ighalo classily jumped over' is he not even the one that others should be jumping over for him to score? Both Iheanacho and Ighalo have received a fair share of my criticism. I am not in the habit of practicing selective criticism. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:05am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:I think only Dessers has dual nationality. I consider National football to be more difficult than club football cos here beyond money national pride is at stake. Iwobi said scoring that goal gave him the most awesome feeling ever. See Messi struggling to put national glory on his glittering career. Nothing like playing for your country. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:11am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: You get the point. That our attack is so blunt. Our WC attacking department has never been this bad. Thank God they have Classy players like V.Moses, Mikel Obi and Alex Iwobi playing behind them. At the WC a very tactical coach can just take out Moses and Iwobi and the team is dead. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:14am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:Chai and yes that duo they can be contained. Moses wasn't outstanding in any of our matches last WC, though the Moses of now is different from then. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:16am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Team play is your overall contribution. If you want a dedicated 9 who will ONLY score all the time, mention a REALISTIC suggestion and not make projections that may not come to pass. Who is that dream 9? As a coach, you will fail because you want to work with fantasy players. A good coach should be able to get the best of what is available at all times. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:20am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie:most of you are not understanding the issue here. I could care less about the interview My own issue is that he went ahead to line up for England's U21, and you people still insist that he is good to go for the World Cup. Nigerians are like that girl who is targeting the rich, flashy, handsome guy who sees her as a friend, while ignoring the modest, not so flashy one who is begging for her attention. That is what you guys look like now The only forward I am interested in discussing as regards World Cup is Dessers, at least he is not tied to any team and he actually has repeatedly said he wants to play for us. I don't know if you guys remember the last foreign player to do this, but his name is Leon Balogun and he has been arguably our best player this year. Why we have decided to shove Cyril under the desk and discuss this boy that has equally shoved us under the desk is beyond me. Cyril has far better stats this season and will be far more dedicated to the team than Tammy....bear in mind he was talking before our WC dreams were right in front of us Tammy can become whatever he wants to be, but he will not use our World Cup slot to shine. #TeamCyrilDessers 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:24am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie: No fantasy here. I don't know about you but I have seen better Super Eagles forwards line from yesteryears. If you are satisfied with the attacking line we have, your opinion. But I am not, my opinion also. Joebie BTW where are the two left backs you promised us. Or are they not "Realistic"? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:29am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:oya, goan drag Tammy from England's U21 team. You are one of the people who constantly talks about how playing for the National team should be a thing of pride and how we shouldn't be begging players to represent us...but you just dey here dey shout Tammy upandan as if the boy is unattached Make we go dey beg Tammy because he has scored 21 goals in 10 matches in La Liga and is the next Messi. Tammy is occupied, focus on players that are not. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:33am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Madam you are missing the point. Tammy had been a member of the U21 team. And he remains a member until a switch is done. Normally, that's how things are done. I'm still waiting for someone to name a player or two that announced that they had switched on the pages of a paper. The guy is just maintaing good public realation. Maybe some of us don't understand that he remains answerable to the UK public Pinnick handled the situation badly. And I've said it from the start that the process is on. The latest news buttresses my analysis that he never turned down Nigeria. The problem is we are like that guy who once got humiliated by a very very rude girl. And that really affected his self-esteem, and made him feel not good enough. From then on he easily reads other girls body language or takes thier every remark as an outright rejection. I will not speak on this issue again until I'm fully vindicated. Bookmark this safarigirl: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:39am On Oct 10, 2017 |
safarigirl: Begging ke. He has not rejected Nigeria. He just has not accepted Nigeria yet. So he us still open for talks. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:41am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Haha Oya make we beg yekini to ressurect Na.. Just limit your arguments to Pep-led clubs. We talking national teams now and the realities on ground Modified That Pep reference was for TheGoodJoe lol Icon4s: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:42am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie:ehn. You'll be vindicated after the World Cup. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:46am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:while una stikk dey follow am talk, let us talk about the people that don't need talks to play for us. That is being realistic, not dreaming about players that are attached 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:47am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:My man am not comparing this team with any old super eagles teams. My point is this do we have players to give Iheanacho, Ighalo a serious fight for a shirt at d moment. |
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