Mickael2:



he believes in one touch football, the only game we played one touch football was against Zambia back then, that means the players are not playing to the coach's instruction, why? Because the coach has been unable to pass his philosophy across? Why? Because he is not tactically gifted.

I like the way he goes about his job, letting the players do what they know( mean till today Moses and Simon still run around like headless chicken)[/b] but I won't call him what he is not, and he isn't tactical

I think this is too rude for AFPOTY prospect to be addressed like this..

So u don't like the haavocs and earthquakes been caused by these two on opposite defenders

.

TheGoodJoe:


Maybe the bias is because some of you feel me explaining Iheanacho doing well like the Algeria case means me exaggerating Iheanacho's performance (thank God the Algerian coach pointed it out because most would accuse me of exaggeration), some of you have clearly chosen to take a bias stance against the Young man.

It is unfair. You are free not to like my stance or perspective. However, be fair and logical. Not bias.

I can't say I didn't see this coming but take heart my brother 2 wrongs don't make a right. Remember that I stood with u in saying that Nacho did not have a poor game against SA but bashing Ighalo won't make things right.

Mickael2:



he believes in one touch football, the only game we played one touch football was against Zambia back then, that means the players are not playing to the coach's instruction, why? Because the coach has been unable to pass his philosophy across? Why? Because he is not tactically gifted.

I like the way he goes about his job, letting the players do what they know(I mean till today Moses and Simon still run around like headless chicken) but I won't call him what he is not, and he isn't tactical

This your ultra critical style no be am oo. Life is not like that. On a lighter note how do you enjoy life Bro with this overly critical approach?
All our goals have come from one touch, two go(which for me is not satisfying if not mixed with some runs, dribbles and feints) and apart from the game against Zambia which other game did VicMo run like a headless chicken?(and still he made CAF best 11). Sometimes you make it seem as if it's robots that play this football not human beings.
And you don't see the players fighting for every ball like Peterside Idah observed on Channels TV on the fact that in this team there ain't no big boys who don't fight to recover balls and he specifically mentioned Mikel intercepting the run of a Zambian to underscore the point.

They say that the man is conservative. Now he said he doesn't believe in the winning team cliché. But still...
It's like even if you were the one to give Rohr a template for any given match, you'd still criticize him. Criticism is okay but it should be balanced. Truth is, I rarely see you praise anybody.

krattoss:
me thinks it's more of inferiority complex...

Most people finds it hard to value and respect their own especially Africans. .

But the man good thoor

You might want to reconsider your stance on the inferiority thing. This is what Moses Simon said: Having played under four different Super Eagles coaches (Stephen Keshi, Sunday Oliseh, Samson Siasia and Gernot Rohr ) since making his debut in 2015, the Gent star believes the team has thrived under Rohr because of his warmth with the players.
“Rohr brought togethernes to the team, the mentality to win and the fighting spirit to fight for one another on the pitch which was the difference with other coaches,” Simon explained.
Source: https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/simon-toughest-qualifier-russia-2018/

salaode:
He spoke about Mikel Agu coming in for the injured Onazi and not Etebo

No not Etebo cos he is too attack minded, so Agu

daveP:
None 4 now. By Giroud-esq, i mean striker that is known for scoring with head occasionally. But before we find our Lukaku, he must have been playing Mbappe level before senior national team scents him.

Actually to be honest most of our players are not playing in the top leagues. Those that are, stand out clearly and they are all from the EPL essentially.

Why then do people get offended, riled up and vexed. when I suggest EPL and or Championship players of Nigerian origin as better alternatives than some players in the backwater leagues.

Magink:

No not Etebo cos he is too attack minded, so Agu

I am not convinced about Mikel Agu, he played only two games for his parent club Porto that's not a sign of outstanding quality.

He is currently in Turkey that's not a step up but down.

But then he makes it into the SE on what basis? Is he better than Aluko certainly not in my opinion, is he better than Tega Onomah ( currently the anchor of England U21 midfield) and or Seyi Ojo and Fred Onyedinma.

Mickael2:



he believes in one touch football, the only game we played one touch football was against Zambia back then, that means the players are not playing to the coach's instruction, why? Because the coach has been unable to pass his philosophy across? Why? Because he is not tactically gifted.

I like the way he goes about his job, letting the players do what they know(I mean till today Moses and Simon still run around like headless chicken) but I won't call him what he is not, and he isn't tactical

laughing. They won't listen to you and if they do they won't agree.

Rohr is a good coach with some great managerial skills but lacking tactical wise. He therefore needs assistance which Salisu Yusuf may not be to render..

The earlier we admits this the better for us. Na siddon look mode I de now. I no go talk this matter again. Iwobi's goal did save us some blushes.

What would have happened if we were unable to get that goal after Iwobi's substitution or better still we went down by a goal immediately he was brought on?

Mujtahida:
RUSSIA 2018: IT’S TIME FOR NIGERIA TO PUNCH ABOVE HER WEIGHT
By Oluwashina Okeleji, Contributor
13 October 2017 | 3:37 am

The euphoria of Nigeria’s qualification for the 2018 FIFA World Cup continues to hang in the air, but for those high up in the Nigeria Football Federation ( NFF), it is time already for them to clear their heads. The buzz of celebratory champagne, after all, can only last so long: that the World Cup has begun is a fact that must not escape anyone if the Super Eagles are to make a proper fist of things in Russia.
Alex Iwobi’s goal in Uyo neatly wrapped up a qualifying campaign that has seen Gernot Rohr’s young charges exceed expectations. To qualify in a group considered the tightest, and to do so in such emphatic fashion, has raised the hopes of a nation. In terms of results, Nigeria has never had it this easy in World Cup qualifying; the question now is: how far can this team go at the main event next year?
On three of its previous five appearances at the finals, Nigeria has advanced past the Group stage. This includes its first and second tries, in 1994 and 1998. Those were hailed as respectable showings, even though the manners of elimination could hardly have been more different.
In 2014, the late great Stephen Keshi repeated the feat. You get the idea – the novelty of it has worn off. Only Cameroon have made more appearances at a World Cup from Africa , yet they are one of three African sides to progress to a World Cup Quarterfinal. You feel, if Nigeria is ever going to join this elite group, now is the time.
And why not? Against France in Brasilia three years ago, the game was very even; the Super Eagles caused them problems, and it took the departure of Ogenyi Onazi – his foot trod on by Blaise Matuidi – to turn the tide of the game . Roberto Baggio’s late, heart - rending double 20 years earlier, was a cruel blow having led for so long; and while Denmark crushed Nigeria in 1998, Bora Milutinovic’s side actually came into the game as heavy favourites .
The common denominator to all these eliminations, the thread that runs right through , is the thorny issue of match bonuses and allowances. As a result of Ghana's John Boye kissing a wad of cash and subsequently becoming the image of Africa’s financial problems at the last World Cup in Brazil (Cameroon similarly had issues ), it was a lot less publicized that the Nigerian team also had to deal with monetary agitation. The team refused to train on the eve of the game against France, demanding their bonuses be paid. As ideal preparation for a crunch World Cup knockout game goes, this was the equivalent of shooting oneself in the head.
Unpaid bonuses, similarly derailed the 1994 and 1998 vintages, and there was a noticeable lack of cohesive focus to the performance of the former in that loss to Italy. This is a pitfall that must be avoided this time around .
I spoke to the NFF first Vice- President Seyi Akinwunmi about this, and how the Federation would seek to curtail another fiasco at the Mundial. The approach of the Glass House with this crop so far has been one of candour: there are no untenable promises made, no half - truths told. This atmosphere of trust and openness, he said, relaxes the mood and reassures the players that they will get their due, and that nothing that is rightly theirs is being wilfully held back.
It is an admirable strategy, but one wonders how effective it will be in the long run . It is one thing to seek to put aside all distraction and just qualify, but how will that approach hold up in the high - pressured environment of the World Cup? It is worth remembering that, with this same board in charge, there was quite an embarrassing row over allowances and bonuses at last year’s Olympic Games in Rio. If indeed the NFF is serious about its target of a semi- final place, then these are the sort of things that should be seen to out of sight, without kicking up a fuss, or creating a scene.
The mistakes of the past have to be learnt from if the Super Eagles are to kick on. To those who say the target is unreasonable, what then is the point of being at the World Cup if you’re not going to compete? Participation is simply not enough anymore – it is time for Nigeria to finally punch above her weight in world football.
In this article:
Source:https://m.guardian.ng/sport/russia-2018-its-time-for-nigeria-to-punch-above-her-weight/

I pray and hope things have changed I remember very clearly that match bonuses were being paid in cash not into the specific bank accounts of players.

I wonder why These practices are clearly indicative of the rampant culture of corruption and other sharp practices.

Even settling flight costs to players was rife with problems.

These intended problems are wilful and not just coincidental negligence.

IT HAS TO STOP players should be motivated, appreciated and an environment devoid of sharp practices and with open accountability is a first step.

got this on Twitter

Mujtahida:
In this clip-on the 1:46 mark- Ola Aina can actually be heard calling Iwobi the game changer to buttress the fact that Iwobi's entry was all planned.
https://m.youtube.com/wastch?v=3Kuf-mgyUlg

You got it Sir! It was All planned, a well executed plan.

Mickael2:



i didnt know the national team is reserved exclusively for some. David Villa was recently recalled to the Spanish national team, are they lacking potent strikers? If Ike Uche or Martins or even Osaze has what we need then we should call them back

Seconded the proposition 100%

How old is the best RB in the world Danny Alves How old is England's most current successful striker Defoe How old is Arjen Robben They are all older than Obagoal, is he cutting it yes he is.

Nigerdeltaboi:
got this on Twitter

BascoVanVeli:


AFCON is just one piece of the puzzle, remember Auba won it even after Yaya had won an AFCON. ViMo is a premier league winner who beat the last African player of the year to a world cup ticket. I will be ashamed of Africa if he doesn't win because this young man has changed football as people know it. For god sakes even Arsenal play 3 @ the back now and ViMo is a major reason why they do that.

No doubt Moses had a good season with Chelsea but when you consider his achievements compared to Mohamed Salah, it becomes very difficult to see how Moses will take the gong.

For starters Aubameyang was at the Nations cup with Gabon to start with. Moses wasn't with Nigeria in the year under review.

Yes he won the Premiership with Chelsea but for the super Eagles he basically played 3 good games in the year under review. Hang on, Moses as good a season he had was not nominated in the Premiership team of the season.

Now, when we compare notes with Salah. It becomes very clear he is 2 paces above Moses.

First of all, Salah has been nominated in the Seria A team of the seaon back to back. He single handledly bundled us out of the nations cup party and was one of the stand out players of the tournament.
At the world cup qualification series, he has stood out for Egypt enroute their qualification for the World Cup after almost 30years absence.
Egypt also played up to the finals of the AFCON.


According to FHIS Salah was the bargain buy of the season. As a matter of fact Liverpool got him almost 3 times less than his actual value. So far in the Premiership, he has won several man of the match awards and on multiple occasions, he have been in the Premiership team of the week.

I understand out pan Nigerianism on this thread. But I cannot leave the truth and buy the lie.

Mo Salah will take home the gong. You can take it to the bank and cash it out through the atm come January 2018 at the glo gala night in Abuja.

forgiveness:
How many AM do we have in the National team?

Answer is Mikel Obi and Alex Iwobi.

Someone should not come here to tell me say Iheanacho and Etebor are AM.

So, it is natural to look the way of Abdul Ajagun who is the only Nigerian player in a top league in Europe playing in that AMF role for over 6 years now. Iwobi off course also plays sometimes in that role and he's doing that this season.


Who is that Nigerian player playing that role in any top European League?

I need facts and not lies.

Sone Aluko has been playing as an AM sometimes SS and even on the wing occasionally. If he wanted to play in the EPL he would be in Brighton and Hove or Newcastle. Furthermore Fulham narrowly missed the premiership play off battle with a dubious penalty.

His quality is not in doubt I believe that the under handed powers on the NFF have decided to exclude him.

Belgium is not in the top 5 but placed 8 and my opinion is that most of thier teams are on the same competitive level of the championship in England.

Put Ajagun into the Championship and he will be lost but put Onazi and he will stand out. The Championship Haa different demands on player ability.

goldfish80:

No doubt Moses had a good season with Chelsea but when you consider his achievements compared to Mohamed Salah, it becomes very difficult to see how Moses will take the gong.

For starters Aubameyang was at the Nations cup with Gabon to start with. Moses wasn't with Nigeria in the year under review.

Yes he won the Premiership with Chelsea but for the super Eagles he basically played 3 good games in the year under review. Hang on, Moses as good a season he had was not nominated in the Premiership team of the season.

Now, when we compare notes with Salah. It becomes very clear he is 2 paces above Moses.

First of all, Salah has been nominated in the Seria A team of the seaon back to back. He single handledly bundled us out of the nations cup party and was one of the stand out players of the tournament.
At the world cup qualification series, he has stood out for Egypt enroute their qualification for the World Cup after almost 30years absence.
Egypt also played up to the finals of the AFCON.


According to FHIS Salah was the bargain buy of the season. As a matter of fact Liverpool got him almost 3 times less than his actual value. So far in the Premiership, he has won several man of the match awards and on multiple occasions, he have been in the Premiership team of the week.

I understand out pan Nigerianism on this thread. But I cannot leave the truth and buy the lie.

Mo Salah will take home the gong. You can take it to the bank and cash it out through the atm come January 2018 at the glo gala night in Abuja.

The truth must be said, even when it is sometimes bitter

terzurum5:

Which battles please? Be very specific.
I am very sure if Rohr and the new goalkeeper trainer see this highlights they will call him asap.
Aiyenugba is good.

Any highlights can make a keeper awesome because you show all the saves only.

He will have to work to prove that he is better now than Ezenwa.

The NFF want this foreign born as much as we want them too.
I remember when asked on one of the sport shows Barr Seyi the first vice president said they want to have a large pool of players like that of England, Germany
Also one of the back room staff said on (Mr Tunde adelakun) twitter that Felix udokhai is on their radar.
This guys want the best players to play for us, their aim is the Semi and I pray it comes to pass.
Rohr even said no player is guaranteed cos anything can happen within 9months. Methinks all the first team players will go the others will have to fight for it.
I also think that Ogu sincerely is not in his plans NB pls my opinion o.

komekn:


I am not convinced about Mikel Agu, he played only two games for his parent club Porto that's not a sign of outstanding quality.

He is currently in Turkey that's not a step up but down.

But then he makes it into the SE on what basis? Is he better than Aluko certainly not in my opinion, is he better than Tega Onomah ( currently the anchor of England U21 midfield) and or Seyi Ojo and Fred Onyedinma.

Agu's case to me is the more you look the less you see can't understand it as well.
We need Onomah guy can ball, he scores screamers as well.

If it is Felix Uduokhai, then Omeruo's world cup place is shaky.

Magink:
The NFF want this foreign born as much as we want them too.
I remember when asked on one of the sport shows Barr Seyi the first vice president said they want to have a large pool of players like that of England, Germany
Also one of the back room staff said on (Mr Tunde adelakun) twitter that Felix udokhai is on their radar.
This guys want the best players to play for us, their aim is the Semi and I pray it comes to pass.
Rohr even said no player is guaranteed cos anything can happen within 9months. Methinks all the first team players will go the others will have to fight for it.
I also think that Ogu sincerely is not in his plans NB pls my opinion o.

If Tunde Adelakun talked about Felix Uduokhai, then it is most likely him... If true, that will be exciting news.

MilitaryControl:


Not necessarily so.

1. Poor pitch on African terrains
2. Poor referring hence rough games

African qualifiers are difficult to exhibit one touch football in due to the above mentioned. This means even if that is your game style it may not reflect.
We have played flashes of one-touch in most of the games (Algeria, Cameroun Zambia-1st leg)....not just the Zambian one. Watch again. And clearly Rohr's game plan is very visible in all these games.

But as I said above it cannot appear perfect in Africa games because of the nature. You will get to appreciate the gameplan more when we play friendlies outside the continent or go to the world cup........Just the same way Keshi's game plan became lucid and smooth to execute at the confeds. (vs Spain, Uruguay), at friendlies (vs Italy, Mexico), at the world cup (vs Argentina)

As regards Moses and Simon running endlessly;

You should note Rohr adopts a defensive and counter attacking approach when we are under pressure. Hence what Moses and Simon do are clear instructions. To use their pace on the counter while midfielders like Mikel supply passes from the deep.

So Rohr clearly has Tactics.

He outcouched tough Cameroun on both legs------Tactics
He outcoached free flowing Zambia (Watch Zambia vs Algeria)------Tactics
Our defensive approach to games has really improved------- Isn't this Tactics?

I'm surprised you do not see the obvious. Its good to criticize, but always state the obvious.

See me here clapping.

We need more of you here bro.

The team is not an established one like the USA 94 team. I expect several changes especially with players on the bench before the world cup. There are places for grabs.

Germany has like 3 or 4 solid squads. All those young talented german boys are better off with Nigeria. I rate Uduokhai and i believe he will get into the german mix soon. Sweet left foot, has a eye for the pass and tackles well.

komekn:


Actually to be honest most of our players are not playing in the top leagues. Those that are, stand out clearly and they are all from the EPL essentially.

Why then do people get offended, riled up and vexed. when I suggest EPL and or Championship players of Nigerian origin as better alternatives than some players in the backwater leagues.

no one gets angry sir...it's just your opinion...
It only draw my attention whenever epl or championship league is being used as a yardstick to judge SE players...because England that have been using same league players since ages have not won any world cup for years....the only one they've won was in 1966 during the time men still wear pants to play football..a tournament of just 8 teams...

so let England thrive wit those players first in the world cup, Euro nations cup...
beat Brazil,Spain,France and Germany...
then I we all can join in canvassing how good the championship is....

moreover....take a look at all the winning teams in the world cup and Euro nations cup....their players are scattered all around Europe they have those playing abroad...and lots more...e.g France...I think a player from the MLS was invited last time during their Euro quest...and they beat hell out of the lowly Iceland that whipped England.

lastly if shehu playing in backwater league...could develop so much guts some he displayed in the last olympics and presently in the colours of the SE...then the epl and it's kind Should never be used to judge our players....
moreover this boys potentials are never in doubt...but just that not everyone got the opportunities those borough players enjoyed...
well trained, groomed and cultured and happen to play in an organised league unlike here in Nigeria...I can tell you talents abound in Nigeria...should Nigeria have a league as organised as the south Africa or Algerian league.....we will likely win the world cup..

despite the organised league England has...at their disposal all they could get from it....in senior men's football is world cup qualification and nothing more.

junnyjake:
I'd like to see Onuachu, Esiti, Hope Akpan, Olayinka, Awoniyi play next year when we face Seychelles in the Afcon qualifiers nxt year.

Onauchu is probably a Striker the team needs to call up

Icon4s:


See me here clapping.

We need more of you here bro.

this is what you like....you've meet your twin brother....
I think oga michael took the criticism too far though...
I am not just too comfortable wit rohr conservative approach...
...had it been he gets to start aina against Zambian...just imagine how many passes of that kind he flipped to Moses....our frontline would have enjoyed...

elderson with all due respect, nothing personal....could not make one of such pass....

tbaba1234:
If it is Felix Uduokhai, then Omeruo's world cup place is shaky.

who cares...
I don't wanna have heartache watching them play in Russia next year

Lamiri:
Onauchu is probably a Striker the team needs to call up

We also need to give a call-up to Club-Brugge's Bonaventure and Utretcht's Cyriel.

Rohr is an experienced tactically sound coach. He does not change things around too quickly, he prefers gradual but focused changes. Look at the way, the team has transformed since he arrived. We are more defensively sound than we have been in a long time. We defend set-pieces a lot better.

Hugo Bross is one of the most tactically astute coaches in Africa. Rohr was better than him over two legs. Infact, Cameroon were lucky to score.

Icon4s said it best.. The man is conservative in his approach, he moves gradually.

tbaba1234:


If Tunde Adelakun talked about Felix Uduokhai, then it is most likely him... If true, that will be exciting news.

It would be nice to have him as a back-up for Leon but we also need J.Torunarigha and Dominic Iorfa Jnr before the WC.

tbaba1234:
If it is Felix Uduokhai, then Omeruo's world cup place is shaky.

Is the guy that good?