The kind of news you dont really hear but you know its happening:
http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-presidency-only-10-months-old-and-new-data-his-airstrikes-alarm-684084

Not about Trump but more about how the US military has been killing and wiping out entire families in their ISIS bombing campaign

"When President Donald Trump took office in January, it was unclear whether the bombast from his campaign would translate into an aggressive new strategy against terrorism. At campaign rallies he pledged to “bomb the hell” out of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS). He openly mused about killing the families of terrorists, a blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions, which prohibits violence against noncombatants.
Ten months into his presidency, a clearer picture is emerging. The data indicate several alarming trends.

According to research from the nonprofit monitoring group Airwars, the first seven months of the Trump administration have already resulted in more civilian deaths than under the entirety of the Obama administration. Airwars reports that under Obama’s leadership, the fight against ISIS led to approximately 2,300 to 3,400 civilian deaths. Through the first seven months of the Trump administration, they estimate that coalition air strikes have killed between 2,800 and 4,500 civilians.
Researchers also point to another stunning trend—the “frequent killing of entire families in likely coalition airstrikes.” In May, for example, such actions led to the deaths of at least 57 women and 52 children in Iraq and Syria.
The vast increase in civilian deaths is not limited to the anti-ISIS campaign. In Afghanistan, the U.N. reports a 67 percent increase in civilian deaths from U.S. airstrikes in the first six months of 2017 compared to the first half of 2016....."

So now, who's gonna tell on the US military viz a viz their human rights record? 5100 - 8900 civilian deaths, gosh!

newafricaken254:
ok,then who will be willing to abide by this rules.when your foe could be developing such tech covertly

Trust me, robots are not going to war not anytime soon.

See, it's much easier to create a digital robot and place it in a digital simulator. It can navigate the whole digital world with easy because it wouldn't need sensors.... As for military vehicles, that's decades away, billions of dollars would be spent to make it a reality.

A vehicle would need some advanced GPS (not the standard that's off the mark by 3m), laser sensors, infrared, sound weaves (you name it) just to navigate. If it gets frequency blocked then it can't access the GPS then it's lost and it can't get commands from home.... So what would happen? It would have to rely on it's onboard algorithm to fight its way out provided the UN allows people to be autonomously killed by machines.

Nok234:


To be frank, I don't see an MRAP in service right know that can compete. It is a very good MRAP I heard it is STANAG 4 ... It is home made so very cheap for us that's means large number can be ordered .. The only thing I am consern about is mobility we have only pictures but maybe I am wrong ...

All MRAPs today has two variant one is 4x4 and a 6x6 because MRAPs usually doesnt have good mobility.
On soft ground 6x6 will be better assuming the vehicles are of similar ilk, as the weight is spread out over a larger area.
Also given the extra drive wheels there is more traction in slippery condition, and the rick of becoming cross axled is reduced, as you have to cross 3 axles instead of 2.

The 4x4 and 6x6 are both adequate for the military not just one.

The fact it is locally manufactured means that even if it is more expensive than foreign ones, the benefits it provides for the Nigerian economy cannot be quantified. In terms of protection, it is the best MRAP in the inventory of the Nigerian army.

As for mobility, that's hard to say until those specifications become available.

Off-course you don't expect an MRAP to do tight turns like a Ferrari, i'm sure it will perform brilliantly during tests.

Can’t wait to see these PF.2 replace soft skinned vehicles in NA.. that paint job too, looks expensive

jakeporeshenko:

Yeah you’re correct, in fact they didn’t just move the exhaust, everything below the passenger side door is different, the entire storage compartment for pic 2 is different, there’s less protrusion from the vehicle.

The whole thing was reworked and re painted.

It might mean errors encountered in the earlier vehicle has been corrected in the follow-up. Yeah, also noticed the storage compartments, it looks less bulky and fitter , i mean the vehicle itself.

jakeporeshenko:
Can’t wait to see these PF.2 replace soft skinned vehicles in NA.. that paint job too, looks expensive

The material used inside, what sort of material is that?


If the army could just do like 550 PF ARA vehicles and 700 PF2's over the next 7 - 10 years, that would be very fantastic!!!

ActivateKruger:


Trust me, robots are not going to war not anytime soon.

See, it's much easier to create a digital robot and place it in a digital simulator. It can navigate the whole digital world with easy because it wouldn't need sensors.... As for military vehicles, that's decades away, billions of dollars would be spent to make it a reality.

A vehicle would need some advanced GPS (not the standard that's off the mark by 3m), laser sensors, infrared, sound weaves (you name it) just to navigate. If it gets frequency blocked then it can't access the GPS then it's lost and it can't get commands from home.... So what would happen? It would have to rely on it's onboard algorithm to fight its way out provided the UN allows people to be autonomously killed by machines.

I trust the boffins at CSIR.

ActivateKruger:


Trust me, robots are not going to war not anytime soon.

See, it's much easier to create a digital robot and place it in a digital simulator. It can navigate the whole digital world with easy because it wouldn't need sensors.... As for military vehicles, that's decades away, billions of dollars would be spent to make it a reality.

A vehicle would need some advanced GPS (not the standard that's off the mark by 3m), laser sensors, infrared, sound weaves (you name it) just to navigate. If it gets frequency blocked then it can't access the GPS then it's lost and it can't get commands from home.... So what would happen? It would have to rely on it's onboard algorithm to fight its way out provided the UN allows people to be autonomously killed by machines.

sure navigation of autonomous land based vehicle,considering their navigation will be off road.the development of AI is growing rapidly as well as Quantum super computers.the incorporation of sensors to our vehicle,phones,houses e.t.c is allow technology to develop at a faster rate and reducing its cost .considering institutions are discussing about autonomous being allow to kill,shows that we nearing their eventual existence

A veteran of the Nigerian Army shows of his medals he acquired during World War II (1939—1945).

Patented SuperShield ballistic protection by local vessel manufacturer Nautic Africa ensures safety of crew in recent pirate attack off coast of Nigeria

A 35m Sentinel patrol vessel, designed and built by Cape Town shipyard Nautic Africa (a Paramount Group company), withstood a pirate attack off the coast of Nigeria at the end of September this year, thanks to its high levels of ballistic protection that secured the safety of the crew and ensured the uninterrupted operation of the vessel.

The vessel and crew succeeded in thwarting an ambush attempt by pirates who attacked the vessel from the front armed with AK-47s. Proving that the 35m Sentinel patrol vessel is properly armoured for its task, the crew managed to escape the attack unscathed.

"The demand for fast, rugged and highly ballistic protected vessels is particularly strong among African countries on the east and west coasts that are affected by incidents of piracy, drug trafficking, oil theft and/or illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing as well as other illicit offshore activities," says James Fisher, executive chairman of Nautic Africa, explaining their design teams work closely with clients to ensure the vessels meet their specific needs.

"Ballistic protection has become a must in many African markets in order to guarantee the safety of the crew and passengers," says Fisher, who adds that Nautic pioneered the use of ballistic protection in the oilfield support market. "We have invested substantially in providing market-leading capabilities in this area.

"We are particularly grateful that one of our vessels met and delivered the required protection for crew who are susceptible to the dangers of these areas," he says. "Nautic Africa is very confident in the knowledge these security vessels, which are manufactured using the lifesaving ‘SuperShield' composite structure, will provide significant ballistic support from AK-47 gunfire. Nautic Africa's STANAG Level 1 Ballistic Protection is standard on all platform security vessels."

The vessels are primarily used for security and transfer of crew and cargo off the coast of Nigeria, and can also be used for various other roles such as dive support, environmental protection and, because of their versatility and adaptability, are able to conduct diverse operations and deal with a number of threats within a country's exclusive economic zone.

At the time of design, the Nautic Africa team undertook extensive research and development to ensure they delivered the best possible product. The vessel is constructed with 5083 aluminium plates, while the bridge is fitted with Nautic's patented SuperShield Ballistic Structure. This provides protection against small arms, such as AK-47 rifles favoured by seaborne criminals.

Nautic's in-house design capability allows for greater levels of customisation on new builds to suit specific clients, and the shipyard is committed to developing a support network on the continent.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49558&Itemid=106&catid=

jteku:
A veteran of the Nigerian Army shows of his medals he acquired during World War II (1939—1945).

Thank you for showing this because Nigerians fought in some of the worst places mankind ever saw, African-American also fought in some of the most decisive battles of WW2, let us never ever forget their contributions to humanity, lest people start to re-write our history for us.

LTGEN:

Thank you for showing this because Nigerians fought in some of the worst places mankind ever saw, African-American also fought in some of the most decisive battles of WW2, let us never ever forget their contributions to humanity, lest people start to re-write our history for us.

Bro, you are being overly dramatic man. It is not needed.

I like the Ara and hope to see more modifications on it, the headlights right now are too low and should be higher.

EDIT: Never mind, can see the new fog lights affixed on top.
I think Proforce must be visiting this thread and taking suggestions.

Henry240:

The material used inside, what sort of material is that?

Material is like some sort of 'quilt' I think. Would be good if it were to also be fire retardant.

Nok234:


It is indeed stanag 4 I wasnt sure but it is, there is 0 chance any MRAP can compete for the Category III MRAP in Nigerian inventory. The only think Im waiting for is the military to bring all changes required and we are good

Yes Stanag 4 for mine protection.....as are all SAn MRAPs but we are talking ballistic protection!!

horlams:


Let me help you out

Yes I saw that bro......I'm talking ballistic protection not mine protection!!

ActivateKruger:


The problem here is the manufacturer claims. There's no way we could verify those claims. The vehicle had not been field tested, not blown or been fired upon but they're already claiming STANAG levels.

For it to be STANAG 4569, it has to withstand 10kg of TNT and that is something no one has seen.

Dude I never once talked about mine protection.....even our V shaped SAMIL trucks are rated at least Stanag 4a for mine protection....I was talking about ballistic protection, no way it can with stand a 14.5mm at 30m

BlackBaron:


Material is like some sort of 'quilt' I think. Would be good if it were to also be fire retardant.

looks like light spall liner to me

could be thermoplastic or thermoset or rubberized based

Henry240:

The material used inside, what sort of material is that?


If the army could just do like 550 PF ARA vehicles and 700 PF2's over the next 7 - 10 years, that would be very fantastic!!!

Don't know what it is but seems to be some kind of spall liner.

x

jln115:

Yes Stanag 4 for mine protection.....as are all SAn MRAPs but we are talking ballistic protection!!

You are the only one talking ballistic protection. It was not specified anywhere, you jumped on Henry's claim, quote Nok and none of them soecified whether it is ballistic or mine. And I see you went all the way back to modify your post to suite your 'new' narrative

SAPS StF

frumentius:


I trust the boffins at CSIR.

Exactly what I said. You can't trust GPS and external communication.

The solution is easy, you pre-feed the vehicle with an offline 3D map. Then use algorithm and live sensors to compensate for the latest changes that may have occurred on the map. Now the biggest challenge would be the live sensors, they may need to be able to 3D render the landscape (including vegetation and buildings) in high definition at a long distance in order for the vehicle to make an informed navigation decision.

I personally know no sensor that can render such high level data at that range and be mobile. Then you'll have to setup data storage inside the vehicle which would equate to a Hollywood server alongside it's cooling system..... God forbid it doesn't run on AMD graphics cards and processors because I tell that thing will be a hot infrared target at 15km.

ssaengine:


You don't know that its a "very good MRAP". Don't make things up. How good it is, is yet to be seen.

After first trial the military show interest ... It is a good MRAP otherwise they will ask for another one. Im not making things up..

ssaengine:
Got to love South African engineering. Why buy top tech when you can build it yourself?

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-49580/

Marlin missile making swift progess

Denel Dynamics also sees Marlin configured into an all-weather surface-to-air missile. Common subsystems will be used for the different variants of the weapon, with some components tailored specifically for the relevant application of the missile.

All I'm reading is the S-400 9M96E2 missile. Denel is making the S-400 9M96E2 missile, my night is already beautiful.

Fvck me, Islamic extremism is trying to spread to southern Africa.

An Islamic group trying to impose Sharia Law attacked and killed police in Mozambique

http://allafrica.com/stories/201710120066.html

Henry240:

Bro, you are being overly dramatic man. It is not needed.

It is needed Henry .I used to agree with that line of thinking till. I saw an African post a photshopped Blackman in a waffen SS uniform and a thinly veiled attempt to salute the Nazis.
We got complacent about Ecomog and look what happened some @$% hole wrote a book and started laying claim to how he single handedly ended the war.
Nigerians when we leave the shores of Nigeria don't beat our chest because we don't want to be the overbearing big brother from Africa.
Sierra Leone , Liberia, and even Somalia.The danger sometimes is complacency and people rewriting History to their benefit.

LTGEN:

It is needed Henry .I used to agree with that line of thinking till. I saw an African post a photshopped Blackman in a waffen SS uniform and a thinly veiled attempt to salute the Nazis.
We got complacent about Ecomog and look what happened some @$% hole wrote a book and started laying claim to how he single handedly end the war.
Nigerians when we leave the shores of Nigeria don't beat our chest because we don't want to be the overbearing big brother from Africa.
Sierra Leone , Liberia, and even Somalia.The danger sometimes is complacency and people rewriting History to their benefit.

I get your point.

LTGEN:

It is needed Henry .I used to agree with that line of thinking till. I saw an African post a photshopped Blackman in a waffen SS uniform and a thinly veiled attempt to salute the Nazis.
We got complacent about Ecomog and look what happened some @$% hole wrote a book and started laying claim to how he single handedly end the war.
Nigerians when we leave the shores of Nigeria don't beat our chest because we don't want to be the overbearing big brother from Africa.
Sierra Leone , Liberia, and even Somalia.The danger sometimes is complacency and people rewriting History to their benefit.

Do we have any of our men that wrote any book on the ecomog wars

501 el-kasseh Class , mine countermeasure vessel , Algerian Navy

That will be it. And a gradual withdraw of some overused vehicles and a total withdrawal of hilux (to be used for civil activities only). Something should also be done about those annoying Isuzu 2.5 ton trucks.

Henry240:

The material used inside, what sort of material is that?


If the army could just do like 550 PF ARA vehicles and 700 PF2's over the next 7 - 10 years, that would be very fantastic!!!

Odunayaw:
Do we have any of our men that wrote any book on the ecomog wars

Not yet.

Nip it in the bud before it grows. You won't want to have them at your borders no matter how sophisticated your military may be.

ActivateKruger:
Fvck me, Islamic extremism is trying to spread to southern Africa.

An Islamic group trying to impose Sharia Law attacked and killed police in Mozambique

http://allafrica.com/stories/201710120066.html