kelvinze:

Huh really?(touches chin)
Then ladies and gentlemen...Ander Herrera is the cause of all these park the bus draws

'I'm not criticising (Klopp). As a coach you are on the bench and you try to anticipate things and I had no midfielder to do what I could do many, many times which is to be with three strong midfield players and then give more freedom to my three attacking players.

'I couldn't do that, I had no Fellaini, no Pogba, no Carrick, nothing at all. The only chance I had to change the direction of the game was to bring on players with one against one, bring on players with speed. This is what I told the players at half-time: maybe Liverpool were going to change.

joeace2020:


Well i like Herrera, i really do but this statement from Mourinho is damning

joeace2020:


Oga Leyqute calm down. Yes because of Mourinho's history, everyone will be going hands in the air because of our defensive display yesterday, but the truth is he used to set up against big teams like this all through his career, teams even in the caliber of a not so good Liverpool. For Mourinho, the bigger picture is more than fantastic football with strings of losses or draws which is why we all laugh at Liverpool today. They play exciting attacking football but one of the poorest defense of the top 6. Now do you go toe to toe against a team everyone knows turns up against the big boys but are pussies against the average teams. Definitely No! At the end of the season, we will be here again with Mourinho lifting another trophy or two and Liverpool looking towards another year. Look at the big picture man. I swore for Mourinho yesterday but i am not fickle enough to realize SAF won many titles playing some of the saddest football just to get those points on board and get us challenging end of season. Except many of us have short term memories, i may have to pull out YouTube videos as reminders if i can find them. I am even suprised you are angry about our play. It was here all of us were complaining that we would have been top 4 or challenging for the title last season if we could get a few draws n wins against the top 6 but destroy the small teams and get the points which frankly is what we are doing this year.

'I'm not criticising (Klopp). As a coach you are on the bench and you try to anticipate things and I had no midfielder to do what I could do many, many times which is to be with three strong midfield players and then give more freedom to my three attacking players.

slimghost:



This has nothing to do with Herrera(even though he was way below par yesterday). We played with only 2 midfielders against Liverpool's 3 and Muo had no answer to that.
I don't why he doesn't trust Mctominay. He would have done better than Mhki yesterday as a third midfielder.

dubylhover:


exactly,most peeps here have forgotten that 6 1 mauling which unfortunately lost us the title,asides From d goal difference,it gave man city such a morale boost to go into other games...
the comment that scattered my brain was some saying Liverpool isn't in form...for real? there are some kind of derby games that doesn't matter who's in form or not,its an entirely different game...I think Liverpool vs united is the bloodiest match in England...form doesn't play a role in this kind of game..what I would criticize is that the pool players were more physical than us..

the fact is that mourinho still won't b accepted my some people in Manu...just imagine getting a point at anfield,see the attacks on him as if they know jack about management,I guess you're right,most of em just started following the game recently

Leyqute:


FYI, I was talking about the Inter-Chelsea match, not Fergie's against Barcelona.

Having said that, I don't think you understand what my point and position is/have been saying all these while.

Against top teams (Madrid, Barcelona etc), for me, it's okay to defend well and create several chances to attack as well, not just submit the game to them. If we defend well and create enough chances to have shots on target we'll win these top teams.

What Mourinho has done (this season), is overly defend against Southampton and to some extent Everton (non-elite teams). If these sides had any quality strikers they would have made us pay dearly for ceding everything to them.

When you give your opponent the ball and refuse to threaten them with shots on target etc, you fuel their confidence and they'll think they can beat you. If they have decent strikers they'll likely score.

We approached Arsenal the same way last season. We played woefully and were well beaten. That's unacceptable to me. It's the same way we approached the match against Real Madrid in the Supercup- and if we created enough chances but still lose I'd be okay with the thought that we put up a fight at least.

Funny enough, I rate the Liverpool game better than So'ton's. We defended better but we all know if Mané played we might not be having this conversation. In return, we just refused to trouble their defense.

Considering the fact that this same L'pool's side have shipped an average of two goals per match you can't but wonder what would've happened if the tactics or game plan was structured to allow Martial or Rashford run riot against L'Pool's full backs.

But let's kill this issue, bossman. I've said enough on this matter already. It's not compulsory we all agree with the manager's tactics. Even Moyes, as woeful as he was, had some backers here on this thread.

I don't know where Mou is taking this squad to but as long as we keep winning I'm happy, you're happy, everybody's happy.

UCL next. Let's win our next two matches and get ready for 2nd round.

Leyqute:


" Mr. man if you don't like it go and support Man City. "

Lana1:
I doubt anyone is lamenting about the draw but rather the tactics.

U can go on and on about how SAF parked in some big games. At least SAF used to setup his team to counter whenever he deployed such tactics.

But with Mourinho at United, park the bus means total surrender. No plan B. Nothing. Just sit deep, allow the opposition play their game and hope for the best.

2nd half vs City at OT, vs Liverpool at Anfield, vs Real Madrid, vs Southampton are few of the games that comes to mind

patrickmuf:
I think we have to let objectivity thrive on these board, Young has being very good at LB, why not play him there and introduce Rashford to replace Darmian at least for the last 15 mins, taking off Martial was a wrong move. The little time we had a go at Poll, they cracked up and to be honest, we should have been more adventurous going forward, we didn't play against the best Liverpool side ffs!!!

Elxandre:
Smh!

[s]Shocked some people can support this eyesore of a performance.
I remember Fergie defending, but only to counter.

He did this against Arsenal severally.

Any honest person would admit this performance today was shitt! I mean we had just a shot on target vs 'liverpool'. Not the Gerrard era Liverpool, but this very average side.

Be sincere, when was the last time you enjoyed a big united match?
Last season, our match vs Liverpool and several others was just as drab!

There's no way you can become an era defining team when you can't even come out to play vs mid strength teams.

I was really furious after the match because it was an embarrassing performance.


Some keep saying Fergie parked the bus vs Barcelona, as if Liverpool is Barca.
Barca might have been in crisis during that period, but that has never affected their ability to dominate a match from start to finish, especially United of around 2008 that couldn't survive against any team that could hold possession.
Was it not almost the same set of players which became destructive the following year with Guardiola?

Comparing this present Liverpool to that team is just hilarious!

I also see People talking of United parking the bus against Liverpool in 07 or so.
If you compare Benitez' Liverpool which was feared in Europe to the pussy cats masquerading as reds under Klopp, you have a problem.[/s]

hoopLA:

Let me get this straight.
By inference, Jose's side of2017 is better than Fergie's side of 2007 and as such shouldn't defend against a rival that will always up their game even as rubbish as they've been.

Please clarify that part for me. Then maybe I'll understand your argument better.
Because if your answer is honestly yes, then I'll understand your point.
But if your answer is no, then let's forget about this argument and move forward.

Bros don't be fooled by Benitez's European exploits. That team of his was useless. Cup team extraordinaire. Wastemen like Babbel and some non-description Spainards full there. Only Gerard and a few were actually decent enough players. But as soon as United come visiting, they become something else. That has been Liverpool over the years.

KingTom:

They've even forgotten the Fulham match where we were at the mercy of Danny Murphy and Mousa Dembele, match wey make me carry stethoscope scatter for ground. You get time to argue o some of these my 'YouTube' highlights specialist go watch end of season highlights and cup lifting, forgetting how we got there a point against Liverpool and we complain, three points against Southampton and we complain, 4-0 wins and we complain we want 5-0, second on the summit with Christmas around the corner and we complain, some are challenging others to go to other clubs, some are trading their squad for Gabriel Jesús. Mehn if I didn't have a customary bottle of brandy with me yesterday Wetin I for type here for earn me ban

Leyqute:


Those are not my words, Mr. Patrick. Be careful not to annoy the landlords up there.

KingTom:

They've even forgotten the Fulham match where we were at the mercy of Danny Murphy and Mousa Dembele, match wey make me carry stethoscope scatter for ground. You get time to argue o some of these my 'YouTube' highlights specialist go watch end of season highlights and cup lifting, forgetting how we got there a point against Liverpool and we complain, three points against Southampton and we complain, 4-0 wins and we complain we want 5-0, second on the summit with Christmas around the corner and we complain, some are challenging others to go to other clubs, some are trading their squad for Gabriel Jesús. Mehn if I didn't have a customary bottle of brandy with me yesterday Wetin I for type here for earn me ban

That a 'United fan' could comfortably type that...

CapitalCee:


Let's end the discussion jare, it's obvious you and some other guys don't like mourinho finish, I was trying defend it. But it's obvious you don't want to admit. Mind you I am not the fan of mourinho by the way. a lot of Fallacies have be thrown around of mourinho and it's very unfair.
Oga, Sir Alex Chapman Ferguson use to Park BUS against teams worse than Southampton and Everton, even Sunderland, if you want evidence I have them.
That Barcelona team that Fergie parked the bus for is the worst Barca team in recent history. He parked the bus home and away. If it's now you guys will be calling for mourinhos head.
One guy even said here that he prefers an entertaining draw to a park the bus victory. I nearly wanted to throw up.

Leyqute:


Cc: CapitalCee

adisaaowala:
E no good to dey use falsehood to support arguments....

CapitalCee, please show us the evidence that Fergie parked the bus vs teams like (and worse than) Everton, Southampton, Sunderland etc

CapitalCee:


Omo eeeh,if not that you are a man u fan, as you claim, I will just begin to pick the yawning holes that is too glaring in this your post, in such a way that you will stop posting here again, but I will not do that. The only person that puts up this kind of your comment is a Chelsea fan that all of know.

afrodoc2:


hehehe. Everybody wan prove say na dem loyal pass.

afrodoc2:

No way would McTominay have been worse than Mikki yesterday though. Sometimes you have to place your trust in youngsters, if they are good enough they are old enough.
I am a Mikki fan but he needs to sit on the bench for a little bit before he derails our season with his shortoneism.

diggz:



In the words of lord know it all......I ask you;

Why must miki be the fall guy for a non-entity like McTominay? Why should miki that is technically proficient and useful in creating assist,a player who has been named Armenian Footballer of the Year seven times (every year since 2009, except 2010),a player that was named Ukrainian Premier League Footballer of the Year in 2012, and was the top scorer in the 2012–13 Ukrainian Premier League with 25 goals, more than any player had scored in a single season since the league's inception in 1992,a player who was voted the CIS Footballer of the Year for 2012, making him the first Armenian footballer to be named the best player from post-Soviet countries, a player who received the award again for 2013,a player that made the most number of assists in the 2015–16 Bundesliga, while playing for Borussia Dortmund, a player who has a decent eye for goals to sit down for someone that does not even have an identity for what kind of player he wants to be? Is mou blind?

afrodoc2:


Same reason Willian should sit for Charly boi.

diggz:



In the words of lord know it all......I ask you;

Why must miki be the fall guy for a non-entity like McTominay? Why should miki that is technically proficient and useful in creating assist,a player who has been named Armenian Footballer of the Year seven times (every year since 2009, except 2010),a player that was named Ukrainian Premier League Footballer of the Year in 2012, and was the top scorer in the 2012–13 Ukrainian Premier League with 25 goals, more than any player had scored in a single season since the league's inception in 1992,a player who was voted the CIS Footballer of the Year for 2012, making him the first Armenian footballer to be named the best player from post-Soviet countries, a player who received the award again for 2013,a player that made the most number of assists in the 2015–16 Bundesliga, while playing for Borussia Dortmund, a player who has a decent eye for goals to sit down for someone that does not even have an identity for what kind of player he wants to be? Is mou blind?

diggz:



In the words of lord know it all......I ask you;

Why must miki be the fall guy for a non-entity like McTominay? Why should miki that is technically proficient and useful in creating assist,a player who has been named Armenian Footballer of the Year seven times (every year since 2009, except 2010),a player that was named Ukrainian Premier League Footballer of the Year in 2012, and was the top scorer in the 2012–13 Ukrainian Premier League with 25 goals, more than any player had scored in a single season since the league's inception in 1992,a player who was voted the CIS Footballer of the Year for 2012, making him the first Armenian footballer to be named the best player from post-Soviet countries, a player who received the award again for 2013,a player that made the most number of assists in the 2015–16 Bundesliga, while playing for Borussia Dortmund, a player who has a decent eye for goals to sit down for someone that does not even have an identity for what kind of player he wants to be? Is mou blind?

Leyqute:


Haba. Everything na levels na bros. I know Afro.doc's post was directed at me but since he didn't quote me, I didn't reply him.

Everyone knows Mkhi has been shitty but thrusting McTomminay into the starting XI against Liverpool will be a gamble. If it was a game against West Brom or Watford it won't be such a gamble. If Perreira was available yesterday, I'd personally lead the crusade to crucify Mourinho if he refused to put him on.

adisaaowala:
E no good to dey use falsehood to support arguments....

CapitalCee, please show us the evidence that Fergie parked the bus vs teams like (and worse than) Everton, Southampton, Sunderland etc