shaybebaby:

No opposing,they are all leaders of the G8. They are allies but you can see that their capabilities aren't determined by their genders.

If you have a daughter and she is brilliant and very capable, I hope you will not instill her that a man has the final say in her life.

Firstly, I will instill in her the ability to choose a wise man who complements her and knows that leadership isn't about "knowing everything", but about empowering people to do what they are best at.

Next I will be sure my daughter knows the IMPORTANCE of showing the man in her life respect and how it affects literally everything she does with that man.

As for you, I hope you get to understand these 2 things before you get into anything sounding like marriage.

DeadRat:
So You Said Something This Reasonable and You Still Come De Argue. This Girl!

Na wetin Tosin talk I dey argue not the topic.

2buffagain:


Firstly, I will instill in her the ability to choose a wise man who complements her and knows that leadership isn't about "knowing everything", but about empowering people to do what they are best at.

Next I will be sure my daughter knows the IMPORTANCE of showing the man in her life respect and how it affects literally everything she does with that man.

As for you, I hope you get to understand these 2 things before you get into anything sounding like marriage.

Who be this guy nah...I'm standing and i'm clapping...


Shaye....sorry but i'm sticking with my bro on this one...

supersystemsnig:



Lmao @ "do as I say because I am the man", you will hear a resounding "fvck off!

This is a man that has lost his entitlement....

See, loving to me is like a gambling machine, what is invested is what is returned.... To get love from wifey, invest love...Can this be so unrealistic that people would resolve to do as i say because i'm a man...that's hilarious and petty


Decisions should be the individual with the strongest skill/ability on that department...For example, in my family, in some department idon't compete against my sisters...Hence, we let the individual with the highest skill level handle the specific task, and others rally behind to support...So it's a flexible leadership structure, hubby takes the lead " in reference " to the word, but with respect to performance, it is fluid, and the shape can be switched so output is achieved and productivity is targeted...And, i believe the focus should be output, and not who does what...



True @ Some men don't even want to lead, some women want to be led. I have had friends say they actively want to get married so they can give up work and take care of the home. That's what they want...But working at home will necessitate taking decisions, when hubby's at work..Regardless of individual preference, decision will be made at some point.



Na, don't make it seem like a entrapment to throw women in, many of we guys love to see our women happy, like the grannies love to see the grand kids happy.The problem is more about the communicative channel thesedays, everything is illustrated as men against women, this is the problem i see personally. The communicative language when it comes to marriage is on an offensive stance....

Bro, we are totally on the same page but you need to go and read up what your NL brothers were saying at the start of the thread.

Them be sounding like Mugabe's descendants.

2buffagain:

Cool. When/if you get married go and be doing things your hubby doesn't agree with. That's your life, not mine

Hahahahahah so u can't prove a point to shayshay,na wa ooo But wait oo what made u assume she's not married?

shaybebaby:

Bro, we are totally on the same page but you need to go and read up what your NL brothers were saying at the start of the thread.

Them be sounding like Mugabe's descendants.

Na leave them. Inferior people are intimidated because they measure themselves against people rather than enjpy the collective strength of the unit, if she's rich or brilliant, Oh my. It's my fkcen pleasure...I'm the one gaining in such scenario...By the way i don't mind dating Hilary Clinton's second daughter if she exists...I'm not intimidated by an intelligent lady... , i rather deal with a brilliant one, than a lame one... They make me puke...

2buffagain:


Firstly, I will instill in her the ability to choose a wise man who complements her and knows that leadership isn't about "knowing everything", but about empowering people to do what they are best at.

Next I will be sure my daughter knows the IMPORTANCE of showing the man in her life respect and how it affects literally everything she does with that man.

As for you, I hope you get to understand these 2 things before you get into anything sounding like marriage.

Changing mouth small small eh?
Now it is about empowerment. Tell me, how do you fellas empower your women when you claim you have authority?

So she will not be taught to respect those who respect her, to respect her self, only that it is important to respect the man her life? Looooool.
I feel sorry for the poor Bubba already.

shaybebaby:

Changing mouth small small eh?
Now it is about empowerment. Tell me, how do you fellas empower your women when you claim you have authority?

So she will not be taught to respect those who respect her, to respect her self, only that it is important to respect the man her life? Looooool.
I feel sorry for the poor Bubba already.

Nah, i disagree a third time...He's right...

supersystemsnig:



Na leave them. Inferior people are intimidated because they measure themselves against people rather than enjpy the collective strength of the unit, if she's rich or brilliant, Oh my. It's my fkcen pleasure...I'm the one gaining in such scenario...By the way i don't mind dating Hilary Clinton's second daughter if she exists...I'm not intimidated by an intelligent lady... , i rather deal with a brilliant one, than a lame one... They make me puke...

And they will get what they wish for, someone who will follow.
It's all well and good talking about authority and leadership, but how many can truthfully answer if they worthy of being followed?

supersystemsnig:


Nah, i disagree a third time...He's right...

Respect is earned. Of you haven't earned it, you have no right to it.

It may be extended at the onset because that is what you do however, the polite thing to do besides you have no reason not to. It doesn't matter who, partner, neighbour, colleague. You treat people with respect.
But if they show they do not deserve it afterwards, you withdraw your respect.
It's no one's birthright.

shaybebaby:

And they will get what they wish for, someone who will follow.
It's all well and good talking about authority and leadership, but how many can truthfully answer if they worthy of being followed?

WORD @ but how many can truthfully answer if they worthy of being followed? I think you're posturing Shaye, it's not up for decision. The moment partners choose one another, it's fixed that submissiveness, authority and leadership comes with the terrain. So the leadership ability isn;t questioned because it's a function of choice, and no longer of prowess. incidentally, the I.Q. of the female doesn't come to question, or rather if she's better, her idea should work in tandem with the man to attain the desired objective..

This is how i feel it is

shaybebaby:

Changing mouth small small eh?
Now it is about empowerment. Tell me, how do you fellas empower your women when you claim you have authority?

So she will not be taught to respect those who respect her, to respect her self, only that it is important to respect the man her life? Looooool.
I feel sorry for the poor Bubba already.

If you somehow saw something in my response to still fight me on, then I'm sorry, your brain is on emotional "fight mode" and there is nothing logical anyone can tell you at this point to see reason. Go cool your azz down

What is your definition of a wise man?
How can a female identify and appreciate one if she does not respect herself?
A female without self-respect are the ones who go after bad guys and abusers. They wouldn't know what to do if they saw a wise man.

This should have been inferred if you are thinking properly right now

shaybebaby:

Respect is earned. Of you haven't earned it, you have no right to it.

It may be extended at the onset because that is what you do however, the polite thing to do besides you have no reason not to. It doesn't matter who, partner, neighbour, colleague. You treat people with respect.
But if they show they do not deserve it afterwards, you withdraw your respect.
It's no one's birthright.

Respect is earned in dating yes. In marriage respect is key, and not optional, if the overall well being of the relationship is of anything important to either parties..Competition when it's unhealthy, induces strife and such atmosphere is not healthy for good relationships. Suffice to say, you don;t respect an invididual because of their benefits but who they are..You're steering offcourse with due respect ma

supersystemsnig:



WORD @ but how many can truthfully answer if they worthy of being followed? I think you're posturing Shaye, it's not up for decision. The moment partners choose one another, it's fixed that submissiveness, authority and leadership comes with the terrain. So the leadership ability isn;t questioned because it's a function of choice, and no longer of prowess. incidentally, the I.Q. of the female doesn't come to question, or rather if she's better, her idea should work in tandem with the man to attain the desired objective..

This is how i feel it is

Not in mine. Who says it should and why should we listen to anyone?
I tell my partner, WE will write our story the way we want it to be. We will make our own rules and don't think we haven't been tested by peeps with similar ideas to this bunch.(a female at that)

Well, let's just say that in the longer term, she helped prove that my way is much better.

supersystemsnig:



Respect is earned in dating yes. In marriage respect is key, and not optional, if the overall well being of the relationship is of anything important to either parties..Competition when it's unhealthy, induces strife and such atmosphere is not healthy for good relationships. Suffice to say, you don;t respect an invididual because of their benefits but who they are..You're steering offcourse with due respect ma

Mutual Si, Mutual. Respect is Mutual. Anyone that brings a one-sided slant to it is being devious. Give respect but also expect the same.

shaybebaby:

Not in mine. Who says it should and why should we listen to anyone?
I tell my partner, WE will write our story the way we want it to be. We will make our own rules and don't think we haven't been tested by peeps with similar ideas to this bunch.(a female at that)

Well, let's just say that in the longer term, she helped prove that my way is much better.

This is me...We create our own rules and not let anyone whosoever tell us what we can do or not do


I tell my partner, WE will write our story the way we want it to be. We will make our own rules and don't think we haven't been tested by peeps with similar ideas to this bunch

shaybebaby:

Mutual Si, Mutual. Respect is Mutual. Anyone that brings a one-sided slant to it is being devious. Give respect but also expect the same.

Hehe

shaybebaby:

....Who says it should and why should we listen to anyone?...

Well, let's just say that in the longer term, she helped prove that my way is much better.

At last she reveals, in plain verse, what she's really thinking.
The spirit of Donald Trump is strong with this one....

supersystemsnig:



Bro, take one Heineken beer on me plz

Baba u dey drink beer?

spartoo:


Baba u dey drink beer?

Hahahaha cool down na...No dull my game...I dey flex ni

2buffagain:


If you somehow saw something in my response to still fight me on, then I'm sorry, your brain is on emotional "fight mode" and there is nothing logical anyone can tell you at this point to see reason. Go cool your azz down

What is your definition of a wise man?
How can a female identify and appreciate one if she does not respect herself?
A female without self-respect are the ones who go after "love-vendor-Juice" and bad guys. They wouldn't know what to do if they saw a wise man.

This should have been inferred if you are thinking properly right now

Now you are beginning to shift position to something more palatable.
And this what we mean by female emancipation.
But you are not quite there yet because your reference point is still a woman getting with a good guy as a goal.

When you remove getting a good man as a prize and focus on empowerment, then I can say my work is done.

shaybebaby:

Now you are beginning to shift position to something more palatable.
And this what we mean by female emancipation.
But you are not quite there yet because your reference point is still a woman getting with a good guy as a goal.

When you remove getting a good man as a prize and focus on empowerment, then I can say my work is done.

Getting a good man is a f.cken " pweious " price...considering the quality that's out there...Trust me, it is...


A good wife is a trophy, a good man is an amazing find...It goes hand in hand

2buffagain:


At last she reveals, in plain verse, what she's really thinking.
The spirit of Donald Trump is strong with this one....and her ilk.

Nah mate, his spirit is strong with you guys. He grabs them by the pvssy because he thinks he is man and the leader. Right in the same school of thought as you.

See, if he was like me, he'd do it in a strip club instead because there, for the right amount of money, you can. You know, do what you want, your way without infringing on anyone else's right. (you have their permission)

Lol @ grab them by the pvssy...So so annoying...Chai, I'm sure Trump wishes that thrash could just go away

shaybebaby:

Now you are beginning to shift position to something more palatable.
And this what we mean by female emancipation.
But you are not quite there yet because your reference point is still a woman getting with a good guy as a goal.

When you remove getting a good man as a prize and focus on empowerment, then I can say my work is done.

I'm not sure what you mean by "shift position".
You essentially came in here seeing RED, ideologically labelling all men as either dogs or demons....not in words, but ideologically.
If there is any "shift" in position, it is simply you cooling the heck down and actually reading to comprehend instead of reading to fight.

I also have no desire to "get there" with you on anything besides stating the bleeding obvious, which is "DO NOT get into a relationship with a man you cannot show respect to". Also that a wise man considers counsel and uplifts the woman in his life, and also that a wise woman knows to detach her ego from having things done her way all the time.

#LearnHowToCede

Getting a good man IS a prize. Your inability to admit this further proves your net-negative emotionalism on the topic.
I have no issues admitting that getting a good woman is an even greater prize given what I've seen in this thread!

2buffagain:


I'm not sure what you mean by "shift position".
You essentially came in here seeing RED, ideologically labelling all men as either dogs or demons....not in words, but ideologically.
If there is any "shift" in position, it is simply you cooling the heck down and actually reading to comprehend instead of reading to fight.

I have no desire to "get there" with you on anything besides stating the bleeding obvious, which is "DO NOT get into a relationship with a man you cannot show respect to". Also that a wise man considers counsel and uplifts the woman in his life, and also that a wise woman knows to detach her ego from having things done her way all the time.

Mehn, this brother's droppin it like it's hawt...damn @ Also that a wise man considers counsel and uplifts the woman in his life, and also that a wise woman knows to detach her ego from having things done her way all the time

2buffagain:


This is bullshit.
You know why?

Because there is NO FUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATION in this world and the one beyond where there wasn't a shot caller.

There is a Captain, and a co-captain. They both have respect for each other, but in a staunch disagreement (which should be rare if both share same values), the captain's decision (i.e executive order) is prime.

Same goes for CEO and other CXOs.
Same goes for Pilot and co-pilot.
Same goes for President and Vice-president. etc.
These are not "Dark-Ages" roles are they?

The 21st century woman will ALWAYS fail at marriage until she understands this...
For an organization to NOT have a shot-caller is a recipe for DYSFUNCTION and perpetual paralysis. (this should really be basic common sense. )
She must detach her ego from ALWAYS getting her way in the marriage.

Woman, if your pride is too much to not be able to cope with something not being done your way all the time and everytime.....then marriage is simply not for you. SIMPLE!

At the end of the day, WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS PERTAINING TO THE MARRIAGE, the man is the shot caller.

2buffagain post=61540574:


I'm not sure what you mean by "shift position".
You essentially came in here seeing RED, ideologically labelling all men as either dogs or demons....not in words, but ideologically.
If there is any "shift" in position, it is simply you cooling the heck down and actually reading to comprehend instead of reading to fight.

Getting a good man is a prize. Your inability to admit this further proves your net-negative emotionality on the topic.
I have no issues admitting that getting a good woman is an even greater prize given what I've seen in this thread!

I also have no desire to "get there" with you on anything besides stating the bleeding obvious, which is "DO NOT get into a relationship with a man you cannot show respect to". Also that a wise man considers counsel and uplifts the woman in his life, and also that a wise woman knows to detach her ego from having things done her way all the time.

#LearnHowToCede

#Gba'be or go buy 10 cats!

In light of the first bolded statement of yours, shouldn't the last one read "man" instead of woman?

All this tedious shape-shifting speculates and that's the problem, too many times we scheme, and scheme and the scheming is the problemand not stuffs that happens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc4SzauJ5E4

supersystemsnig:



Getting a good man is a f.cken " pweious " price...considering the quality that's out there...Trust me, it is...


A good wife is a trophy, a good man is an amazing find...It goes hand in hand

But there are other worthy goals as well, ending wars, famine, cure for cancer. But nah, if a woman manages to achieve something else but doesn't have a man, it's worthless.

I'm really learning alot from this thread

shaybebaby:

But there are other worthy goals as well, ending wars, famine, cure for cancer. But nah, if a woman manages to achieve something else but doesn't have a man, it's worthless.

No we disagree, we men are not that way...That's speculation and it's unfair to we males if you say this...All though my secondary school, i almost trailed behind some damn crazzy intelligent ladies, there wasn't strife...but i couldn't fall the brother's hands na..I had to catch them later on and whoop them real good...Took serious juice for me doing this...

Candidly, a lot of us appreciate intelligent women, much more than some of y'all think and fell...The I.Q. of a woman doesn't mean she won't make a good wife, the thing is, is she willing to be a submissive partner? If she is, then i don't see problems with it...Intact if you know any ladies with the potential you mentioned, kindly do the hook up, i'm more than pleased to meet her...She just needs to be loving, caring, compassion, respectful, polite, neat, homely...and i'm good to go, personally


Who fkcem cares if she earns a billionquid per month...that's not the problem. The key thing is can she wield authority to the man, can she humble herself inspite of her achievements, can she submit willfully the power and strength of character she commands...Like many men can't control power, wealth, affluence, too many women can't handle power, when they rise, it controls them...Trust me, i've been around for a while