starstunna1313:


Bad signal like stop winning souls for Christ?.. I beg to differ oh!!... As far as am concern you are accountable for your actions and what you say here on earth. It's not on any pastor. Whether he gives bad signal or not.. I still see him as mere mortal. But aside that have we ever seen a pastor's job description which says he can't own a private jet. I can only understand not having a private jet by Catholic Priests bc during and before there ordination there is an oath they take. Can't really remember the name now but under it there are some certain properties you are not allowed to acquire

Perhaps you don't know how these pastors operate. It's very easy to see things from the outside that is nice but they're not. If you know what goes behind the scene then you would understand better. Aside from that, acquiring such wealth will result to lust for riches. Initially it might look nice but at the end it leads to destruction. Catholic priests have their doctrines and they try to caution their priest against acquiring unnecessary wealth. Don't forget name we came to this world name we will all leave so why should we be crazy over these things like unbelievers?

GavelSlam:


Exactly what Judas would say.

Certainly not Christ.

when the church was busy constructing roads in portharcourt city, building houses, dashing out cars, giving out scholarships helping the helpless...... and many more you don't see it as offering money o. but if they do something for pastor it then becomes offering money. but it's our offering money and yours is not inside so stop complaining and enjoy whatever damnation you will bring upon yourself by saying what you know nothing about

asuustrike2009:

It's not about me but about the pastor, the salvation of his soul. He true believer don't acquire all these because they are all vanities. Yes a preacher can be rich but he doesn't have to display it. the Bible say in 1 Timothy 6:7-10 that "For we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs"
1 John 2:16 also says "For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world". Gradually with time he the love for wealth will begin to sink into his head unknown to him

but Joseph of Arimatea was very rich and was still disciple of Jesus. Infact had it not been his influence, the body of Jesus wouldn't av been released... The kingdom of God is very big. Choose who u wanna be in him but don't lose ur focus of heaven.. By the way, the Bible says he became poor so we might be rich..

oyeludef:
really? Abraham was part of the law?

Go and read the Abraham story again and answer these questions:

1. Who was/is Melchizedek?

2. How many times did Abraham tithe?

EMEKA1MILLION:
For those pointing fingers that congregations can't attention the school... He has thousands of students home and abroad on scholarships

Op Indian juju working on you

BluntBoy:


Go and read the Abraham story again and answer these questions:

1. Who was/is Melchizedek?

2. How many times did Abraham tithe?

mr man e b like say u just like to dey argue.. Moses was a levite, the first person recorded in tge Bible to av tithed did dat long before the law.. Why u come dey beat about the bush... Don't forget that the book of Hebrew said Jesus is s a priest forever like melchizedek... Christ remains the head of the church, wen u tithe, u are honoring Jesus with ur substance... Wen u see tithing as giving unto a man of God den maybe dats why u don't get blessed. Real tithers don't even complain cos dey understand the principle of tithing and the reward dat follows... Go and read about real tithers in history, dey were great men.. Ppl like Colgate

EMEKA1MILLION:
Having gone through the thread where E warriors blasted pastor David Ibiyeomie's church members for buying him a private jet, I decided to shut them up with this thread.
In this generation, it's easy for anyone to just say what they want without knowing the truth first.
I was a church critic, even worst than daddy freeze, until God took me to this church one day and my life turned....
I am not here to prove anything to anyone but to let them understand the wonderful work this man does that bloggers will never carry neither nairaland mods pay attention to it since its not a post criticizing a certain man of God...



U can't avoid moving this to the front page.

you attribute Gods work to a man.
Did God collect a dime from us before doing amazing things for us?
Is it the pastor that helped the members or God?
God would have preferred that such money goes to the less priviledges.

oyeludef:
like i said earlier, levite is a whole tribe. For example God set aside the igbos to work in his temple cos dey stoodup and identified with him wen a test was done, does dat make anyone given a higher responsibility less an igbo? Are u also going to say Aaron is not a levite just because he was given an higher responsibility as an highpriest?

Aaron and Moses were never regarded as part of the Levites whose inheritance was God Himself. The descendants of Aaron were not regarded as Levites, even till today. Rather, they are called the Kohanim.

BluntBoy:


Aaron and Moses were never regarded as part of the Levites whose inheritance was God Himself. The descendants of Aaron were not regarded as Levites, even till today. Rather, they are called the Kohanim.

and u didn't know kohath was one of the sons of Levi? If God wasn't their inheritance, show me where their inheritance is among the other 11 tribes in Israel

oyeludef:
mr man e b like say u just like to dey argue.. Moses was a levite, the first person recorded in tge Bible to av tithed did dat long before the law.. Why u come dey beat about the bush... Don't forget that the book of Hebrew said Jesus is s a priest forever like melchizedek... Christ remains the head of the church, wen u tithe, u are honoring Jesus with ur substance... Wen u see tithing as giving unto a man of God den maybe dats why u don't get blessed. Real tithers don't even complain cos dey understand the principle of tithing and the reward dat follows... Go and read about real tithers in history, dey were great men.. Ppl like Colgate

Who was/is Melchizedek?

DozieInc:


Envy is the roots of all your ramblings, and hate is it's fruits.

signing out.

Can u'll just use ur brains for once? And, stop seeing antagonists on every corner!

Do u know how many percent of ur brain cells are lying in waste? Yet, u'll be using nonsensical dogma to defend ur position on matters of vanity!?

If I'm going to envy, I'll prefer d likes of zuckerberg, gates, all those saudi princes u hear abt


Those ones dont av to pretend to be what they're not!? They dont make excuses when spending their wealth, afterall na their money!?

oyeludef:
and u didn't know kohath was one of the sons of Levi? If God wasn't their inheritance, show me where their inheritance is among the other 11 tribes in Israel

Stop being ignorant. Levites are different from the Kohanim.

Are you drunk? I never disagreed about their origin. During the census, did Moses and Aaron count themselves among the sons of Kohath?

BluntBoy:


Who was/is Melchizedek?

High priest and king of salem. Or Jerusalem as u know it now. I know u will keep beating about the bush to justify ur Greed anyway. U give oo, u don't give ooo, the work of God will be done..The church will keep matching on..

DozieInc:


Following.
Emeka1million am with you on this.

1.) David Ibiyeomie has given over 200million in scholarships.

2.) Trained more than 3,000 people in various skill acquisitions through the DIF ( David Ibiyeomie Foundation )

3.)The WF ( Widows Forum) carters for the needs of widows through cash gifts, distribution of foodstuffs, sponsoring their children in various fields of training etc
4.)Donation of medical equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to the UPTH.

5.)Building of schools and renovation of existing ones e.g In Plateau state and renovation of schools in Rivers state and neighbouring states

6.)Donation of relief materials to victims of natural disaster e.g The Benue flood victims, Bayelsa flood victims etc.

7.) Construction of community roads in Rivers state

8.) Donation of materials to inmates of the Port Harcourt prisons and ensuring the release of some.

These are pure lies.. Bros easy nah

What does he do for a living?

oyeludef:
High priest and king of salem. Or Jerusalem as u know it now. I know u will keep beating about the bush to justify ur Greed anyway. U give oo, u don't give ooo, the work of God will be done..The church will keep matching on..

Was Melchizedek's priesthood eternal or temporary?

BluntBoy:


Stop being ignorant. Levites are different from the Kohanim.

Are you drunk? I never disagreed about their origin. During the census, did Moses and Aaron count themselves among the sons of Kohath?

a whole book in the Bible was dedicated to levites called leviticus... Wch book talked more about the office of Aaron and his protege more than that book... U r the ignorant one here... If a family is chosen from a tribe to occupy a particular office, dey are no more of dat tribe abi. U keep showing ur ignorance wit every comment u make

akinreals:
His members bought him a private jet or he used all their tithes, offerings, special donations etc to buy private for himself? Uncle Op, you can lie o, are you related to Laid Mohammed?

His members bought him Private Jet sir. He even told them d only gift he wants is for each member to covert a soul for God, apparently they did that and added a Jet to it. I love the man die. He is loaded wit d word of God

EMEKA1MILLION:
if you've gone through the pictures and still post this, you are a shame to your generation sir! God bless you.

The way you Christian react to any opinion different from urs make one wonder the kind of Christianity you practice. And the funniest thing is after ur ridiculous reply, u add God bless.

I see nothing wrong with was he asked. The church is only doing what it was meant to do, nothing special. Pastor David is not the owner of the money been spent, the people owns it. These credits should go to the church, not the pastor as u sound. The pastor is not the church, the people are.

So pls we shld stop celebrating mediocrity in this country. Try leaving the shores of Nigeria and see how religion is been practice outside.

oyeludef:
but Joseph of Arimatea was very rich and was still disciple of Jesus. Infact had it not been his influence, the body of Jesus wouldn't av been released... The kingdom of God is very big. Choose who u wanna be in him but don't lose ur focus of heaven.. By the way, the Bible says he became poor so we might be rich..

Joseph Arimatea was rich but did his riches over shadow him or got to his head? Was he living a flamboyant life like what most pastors are doing? Didn't he labored for his wealth? Did he asked people to give him money or sweet talk them to sell their possession? Am not saying you can't be rich, what am emphasizing is the fact that you may be carried away by such riches. It's easier to say I wouldn't be carried away but the end leads to destruction. There is a preacher that's one of the richess pastor on earth but you rarely see him displaying such attribute. Intact you wouldn't ever think he has such wealth,that's what am saying.

BluntBoy:


Was Melchizedek's priesthood eternal or temporary?

eternal High priesthood.. Dat was why Jesus christ priesthood was liken to it in d book of Hebrew.. Jesus is the High priest of the church today(dats if u r truly born again sha)

Who is publicizing this? What happened to the bible verse that says when you give to the needy , sound no trumpet about it? Mattew 6:2. How many times have you heard or seen charities done by the northerners being publicized? You just want to justify why he should have a private jet okwaya? Instead of a private jet, he should continue with the good works he is focused on. PERIOD.

BluntBoy:


That is the problem with Churches who have human beings as the central figure. Everything the Church does is credited to the figure instead of to God.

Any Church where a man is the central figure and the identity of the Church is not of God. Jesus has been uprooted from that Church.

Any pastor who preaches tithing under the Law of Moses is a thief, a parasite, a wolf, a viper.

Now, before you credit your pastor for that generosity, can you tell me what he does for a living?

Guy, ur foolishness is alarming, Gosh! This is huge. If u know that Man, u won't say Jesus Christ is not d centre figure of Salvation Ministries. U speak wit gross ignorance and it's sicknenning

oyeludef:
eternal High priesthood.. Dat was why Jesus christ priesthood was liken to it in d book of Hebrew.. Jesus is the High priest of the church today(dats if u r truly born again sha)

LOL I asked you a simple question and you quickly tried to play a smart one.

Yes, only Jesus Christ has the sort of priesthood Melchizedek has. It means Abraham tithing to Melchizedek was in order as Melchizedek's priesthood was not ordinary. Now, tell me, how many times did Abraham tithe to Melchizedek. Obviously, Abraham was a wealthy man. How many times did he tithe before and after the Melchizedek incident?

asuustrike2009:

Joseph Arimatea was rich but did his riches over shadow him or got to his head? Was he living a flamboyant life like what most pastors are doing? Didn't he labored for his wealth? Did he asked people to give him money or sweet talk them to sell their possession? Am not saying you can't be rich, what am emphasizing is the fact that you may be carried away by such riches. It's easier to say I wouldn't be carried away but the end leads to destruction. There is a preacher that's one of the richess pastor on earth but you rarely see him displaying such attribute. Intact you wouldn't ever think he has such wealth,that's what am saying.

why do u guys attribute piety wit poverty? And who is to judge flamboyance? Dat men of God ride in latest cars or dress well indicates flamboyance? Or wat is ur definition of it? Some of these men of God even had successful careers before God called dem into ministry. I know an accountant general of a whole state dat resigned because of ministerial work in d church. Am sure if he was riding his big car as an accountant general ppl wouldn't av termed him flamboyant but cos he is a pastor now ppl will remember dat poverty is supposed to accompany piety.
Do u really think its easy to start a ministry nd nurse it till it becomes a mega church? I don't even attend d church of this pastor being criticize but i was born into another Pentecostal church, i know all the thiilcks nd thins d church has gone tru to become solidly standing now, most of the clothes my pastor even put on are gifts from church members who traveled out for vacation even ppl donate the cars these people drive in.those whose life were blessed by this ministers hold dem in high esteem .. Ppl will see expensive suit nd say he is living in flamboyance..

DozieInc:


Following.
Emeka1million am with you on this.

1.) David Ibiyeomie has given over 200million in scholarships.

2.) Trained more than 3,000 people in various skill acquisitions through the DIF ( David Ibiyeomie Foundation )

3.)The WF ( Widows Forum) carters for the needs of widows through cash gifts, distribution of foodstuffs, sponsoring their children in various fields of training etc
4.)Donation of medical equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to the UPTH.

5.)Building of schools and renovation of existing ones e.g In Plateau state and renovation of schools in Rivers state and neighbouring states

6.)Donation of relief materials to victims of natural disaster e.g The Benue flood victims, Bayelsa flood victims etc.

7.) Construction of community roads in Rivers state

8.) Donation of materials to inmates of the Port Harcourt prisons and ensuring the release of some.

bt bros no vex,make i ask u,if actually he does all these,am nt doubting d fact,y una members com full OPM lik sand?and are alwaz available in all d free schemes n opm?even if u no c any oda church member u must c dem is a must.Y?and na una critize opm pass oo,yet una members dey benefit both spiritually n physically Y?

DozieInc:


Following.
Emeka1million am with you on this.

1.) David Ibiyeomie has given over 200million in scholarships.

2.) Trained more than 3,000 people in various skill acquisitions through the DIF ( David Ibiyeomie Foundation )

3.)The WF ( Widows Forum) carters for the needs of widows through cash gifts, distribution of foodstuffs, sponsoring their children in various fields of training etc
4.)Donation of medical equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to the UPTH.

5.)Building of schools and renovation of existing ones e.g In Plateau state and renovation of schools in Rivers state and neighbouring states

6.)Donation of relief materials to victims of natural disaster e.g The Benue flood victims, Bayelsa flood victims etc.

7.) Construction of community roads in Rivers state

8.) Donation of materials to inmates of the Port Harcourt prisons and ensuring the release of some.

Was it his private money he used in all these? You've seen his bank statements?

Because of the above you enumerated, he deserves a private jet? Just say he has one because he can afford one and stop all the lists.

Mailthaddeus:


Guy, ur foolishness is alarming, Gosh! This is huge. If u know that Man, u won't say Jesus Christ is not d centre figure of Salvation Ministries. U speak wit gross ignorance and it's sicknenning

You fool, when you hear today's denominations, is it not the senior pastor's name and identity that comes to mind?

Winners (Oyedepo comes to mind)

Redeem (Adeboye comes to mind)

Deeper Life (Kumuyi)

This is what happens when a church is shepherded by a single man rather than by elders/overseers as we had in the Early Church. How many elders in each of the Early Church do you know?

oyeludef:
why do u guys attribute piety wit poverty? And who is to judge flamboyance? Dat men of God ride in latest cars or dress well indicates flamboyance? Or wat is ur definition of it? Some of these men of God even had successful careers before God called dem into ministry. I know an accountant general of a whole state dat resigned because of ministerial work in d church. Am sure if he was riding his big car as an accountant general ppl wouldn't av termed him flamboyant but cos he is a pastor now ppl will remember dat poverty is supposed to accompany piety.
Do u really think its easy to start a ministry nd nurse it till it becomes a mega church? I don't even attend d church of this pastor being criticize but i was born into another Pentecostal church, i know all the thiilcks nd thins d church has gone tru to become solidly standing now, most of the clothes my pastor even put on are gifts from church members who traveled out for vacation even ppl donate the cars these people drive in.those whose life were blessed by this ministers hold dem in high esteem .. Ppl will see expensive suit nd say he is living in flamboyance..

Nobody is saying they should live descent but many preachers are going out of track. Many of them are now talking more of money in their sermons. Many have lost it and have deviated from what they ought to preach. Acquiring wealth here isn't just restricted to pastors alone it's for all Christians. We shouldn't be carried away like what's going on now. It's very easy to say but difficult to practice

BluntBoy:


LOL I asked you a simple question and you quickly tried to play a smart one.

Yes, only Jesus Christ has the sort of priesthood Melchizedek has. It means Abraham tithing to Melchizedek was in order as Melchizedek's priesthood was not ordinary. Now, tell me, how many times did Abraham tithe to Melchizedek. Obviously, Abraham was a wealthy man. How many times did he tithe before and after the Melchizedek incident?

u can say all u like to justify ur selfish nature. Keep ur money and the church will still grow and move on. U can build a theology to justify why u shouldn't pay ur tithe but i av made things clear to u.
1. U said there was no where in the new testament where tithing was commanded, i took u to matt 23:23... U said it was because Jesus had not died den... Na u sabi
2.. U said tithing was part of the law... I took u to where Abraham tithed before d law nd u keep beating about the bush
3. U said moses was not a Levite mistaking Levite to be a title but i prive to u dat Levite is merely a tribe in Israel who av the sole responsibility to assist with d works in the temple.. U refused to tell me the tribe moses is from among d 12 tribes of Israel.
I think av tried enough in educating u on what u pastor didn't. If now left for u to pay or not to pay but just note dat God's kingdom will match on

Davebrian133:



U are a very big fool, hope God will forgive u for diz nunsence u said.

Imagine the reply coming from a Christian..... Smh

EMEKA1MILLION:
don't criticize what you don't understand. Can your offering of one year buy a bag of rice? If No! Den I have nothing to tell you.

He has never been the central figure of the church! God uses him to do his work so he deserves the plaudits coming his way.

Don't the tithes come from hundreds if not thousands of followers? Who said it's from one person?The grants received? Why do you make it seem like it's all the man's personal money.

What are his business investments and holdings which he began with his own earned money (not the flocks tithes and donations)?


You don't want people to judge the man, but you're judging this guy that his salary isn't enough to buy a bag of rice. How do you know this?

Hypocrisy and human worship.

oyeludef:
u can say all u like to justify ur selfish nature. Keep ur money and the church will still grow and move on. U can build a theology to justify why u shouldn't pay ur tithe but i av made things clear to u.
1. U said there was no where in the new testament where tithing was commanded, i took u to matt 23:23... U said it was because Jesus had not died den... Na u sabi
2.. U said tithing was part of the law... I took u to where Abraham tithed before d law nd u keep beating about the bush
3. U said moses was not a Levite mistaking Levite to be a title but i prive to u dat Levite is merely a tribe in Israel who av the sole responsibility to assist with d works in the temple.. U refused to tell me the tribe moses is from among d 12 tribes of Israel.
I think av tried enough in educating u on what u pastor didn't. If now left for u to pay or not to pay but just note dat God's kingdom will match on

Abeg go. You were a waste of time. You are the most uneducated Christian is have met here, honestly.