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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:04pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:

Here is an earlier post:
My man, each side will claim they are the ones telling the truth. They will put their own spin on things, manipulate facts and pull things out of thing air.
BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW FOR A FACT. THESE WILL LEAD US TO THE LIKELY TRUTH.
Here are some things we know for a fact (every other thing is lies, conjectures, twisted truth, innuendos):
1)Awo was thinking tribe right from UK (started Egbe Omo Oduduwa)
2) If Zik were thinking like Awo he would have started "Nzuko Umu Ndiigbo".
3) But the last thing on Zik's mind was Igbo. He started his revolutionary activities in US focused on Africa and black people, not Igbo.
4) Zik started a newspaper in Ghana with which he helped fight for Ghana's independence: WEST AFRICAN Pilot. He later brought it to Nigeria.
5) Awo started a paper a decade later focused on Ibadan called Tribune
6) Zik was born in Zungeru, was based in the West and spoke all major Nigerian Languages.
7) Awo was born in Yoruba land, based in Yoruba land and only spoke Yoruba (besides English)
HOW DARE PEOPLE COMPARE THESE TWO??
HOW DARE THEY!!!!!
The Simple Truth:
All everybody wanted was independence and they knew Zik was the person leading it. No one was thinking tribe until Awo introduced it. Everybody alive then knew that was the truth.
lol @ 2.
There was Igbo Federal Union,which was formed before Egbe Omo Oduduwa.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:09pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:

My friend the "obesesoon", as u put it, with Awo is justified. How many Nigerians do u know were caught planning two coups, went to jail for one of them and committed suicide for the other. That's just ONE small aspect of controversies surrounding Awo.
Mention ONE controversy about Zik. These are made up things u pull out of thin air that nobody knows nor cares about. And everybody knows it. You are not fooling anybody.
ACB scandal.
He was indicted by the Foster-Sutton Tribunal.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 2:13pm On Oct 21, 2017
Origamist:

lol @ 2.
There was Igbo Federal Union,which was formed before Egbe Omo Oduduwa.

It was not formed by Zik.
Zik was not, and never intended to be, an Igbo leader.
He didn't speak Igbo well and may have spoken Yoruba and Hausa better. Igbos claimed him but he never saw himself as belonging to just Igbos.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 2:24pm On Oct 21, 2017
Origamist:

ACB scandal.
He was indicted by the Foster-Sutton Tribunal.

See how contemporary people are talking about Awo's controversies including Yorubas. Who is talking about this? Nobody knows if u just pulled it out of thin air and most importantly NOBODY CARES!

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:

It was not formed by Zik.
Zik was not, and never intended to be, an Igbo leader.
He didn't speak Igbo well and may have spoken Yoruba and Hausa better. Igbos claimed him but he never saw himself as belonging to just Igbos.
hehe.Yet he was the pioneering President of the Union? grin,Abeeegi!
If there was no Igbo Fed. Union,there would not have been Egbe Omo Oduduwa.
*ChiefObafemi Awolowo along with Dr.Oni Akerele, ChiefAkintola Williams, Professor Saburi Biobaku, ChiefAbiodun Akinrele, Chief D.O. A Oguntoye, ChiefAyo Rosijiand others, met inLondon.[1]Their stated aim in setting up the organisation was to unite theYorùbá in a manner similar to the tenets of the Ibibio State Unionand theIbo Federal Union; which were political action committees of the Ibibioand the Igbo respectively.*
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egbe_Omo_Oduduwa?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3361683956

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Origamist: 2:57pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:

See how contemporary people are talking about Awo's controversies including Yorubas. Who is talking about this? Nobody knows if u just pulled it out of thin air and most importantly NOBODY CARES!
Hypocrites would not talk about it,bro.
Ikpako oni ikpako lan ri,e lo miran lon ri teni.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 3:42pm On Oct 21, 2017
Origamist:

hehe.Yet he was the pioneering President of the Union? grin,Abeeegi!
If there was no Igbo Fed. Union,there would not have been Egbe Omo Oduduwa.
*ChiefObafemi Awolowo along with Dr.Oni Akerele, ChiefAkintola Williams, Professor Saburi Biobaku, ChiefAbiodun Akinrele, Chief D.O. A Oguntoye, ChiefAyo Rosijiand others, met inLondon.[1]Their stated aim in setting up the organisation was to unite theYorùbá in a manner similar to the tenets of the Ibibio State Unionand theIbo Federal Union; which were political action committees of the Ibibioand the Igbo respectively.*
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egbe_Omo_Oduduwa?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3361683956

I was out. Now I'm back...

My man, how dare u try to compare Zik of Africa with Awo of Ibadan when it comes to parochialism and tribalism. Did Zik form or was he involved in forming anything Igbo?

Nobody has ever tried to equate Zik with Awo when it comes nationalism. They were not in the same league at all. Not even close. Zik was clearly thinking Africa while Awo was thinking Ibadan. As Unongo rightly said Zik started in US, thinking Africa. While Awo started in UK, thinking Oduduwa. Zik's paper was called "West African Pilot". Awo's paper, Tribune, could easily have been called "Ibadan Pilot".

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 3:59pm On Oct 21, 2017
Origamist:

Dude, I don't understand what your obsession with Awolowo is all about.
All these allegations have been interred on this board several times.You claim to be the moderator of the thread,yet you don't find it hypocritical to also play the role of a judge without taking time to conduct a comprehensive research on how tribalism crept into national politics.
I guess Zik & Samuel Akinsanya who claimed the latter was not allowed to assume the NYM vacant seat because he was an Ijebu Yoruba were not tribalists,but Awolowo who supported Ernest Ikoli (an Ijaw candidate)against a fellow Ijebu man deserves to be called the father of political tribalism,init?
And the nationalist who displaced Eyo Ita after returning to his region was no tribalist,right?
What objective person will accept d opinion of Unongo -the present Chairman of the Northern Elders Forum who is yet to condemn the activities of the herdsmen killing his people in Benue- about Awolowo,when we all know NCNC was in an alliance with the North then?
Stop being a closeted tribalist,man.

Say what u will about Awolowo, love him or hate him, one thing u can never say is that the topic of Awo is borring.
So my brother, it's just that there is so much there. He is a treasure trove for controversy buffs. Tell me what other Nigerian, including those who fought wars, even comes close. Even his death is controversial.
Take Zik for instance. All that's in the PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS is that he led Nigeria to independence. Beyond that the average man will be looking at u like u crazy.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:04pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Say what u will about Awolowo, love him or hate him, one thing u can never say is that the topic of Awo is borrring.
So my brother, it's just that there is so much there. He is a treasure trove for controversy buffs. Tell me what other Nigerian, including those who fought wars, even comes close. Even his death is controversial.
Take Zik for instance. All that's in the PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS is that he led Nigeria to independence. Beyond that the average man will be looking at u like u crazy.

No mind them. Whenever u say Awo they say Zik. As if there is any basis for comparison between the two.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 4:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:


Nigga was corrupt, was CAUGHT plotting two coups, and ended life as a suicide, and u still think he qualifies as hero. Na wa o.

Good sir, as the moderator, I am obliged to inform u that Chief Awolowo was a great man. He was not "nigga".
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:16pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Good sir, as the moderator, I am obliged to inform u that Chief Awolowo was a great man. He was not "nigga".

Great men don't commit suicide. Great men are not corrupt.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 4:21pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:


Great men don't commit suicide. Great men are not corrupt.

Not true. Great does not necessarily mean good. And I'm not saying Awo was bad. Hitler was a great man. Yet he was corrupt and he commuted suicide.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:22pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


Not true. Great does not necessarily mean good. And I'm not saying Awo was bad. Hitler was a great man. Yet he was corrupt and he commuted suicide.

Well, Awo was not Hitler.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 4:23pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:


Well, Awo was not Hitler.

Never said he was. God forbid

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 4:34pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


1) That he introduced tribal politics into Nigeria in 1951 by, overnight, convincing a staunch NCNC allied Ibadan party to switch allegiance to AG in other to prevent Zik from becoming first premier of the West.
As Unongo put it:
"Zik’s party produced a Zik premiership in Western Nigeria and in the night, Awolowo went round to convince the Yoruba that, ‘you are a tribe. Your tribe is called Yoruba. Zik’s tribe is called Igbo. Do not allow this to happen. Whether you like me or not, it is better to have a Yoruba man to rule over Yorubaland’. Unfortunately, I feel, this was the starting point of our problems."

2) That he tried to orchestrate the first coup in Nigeria in 1963. For this he was sentenced to 10 years hard labour by a Yoruba judge after a long trial. A co-conspirator, Enahoro, later escaped to Ghana and confessed they were indeed planning a coup.

3) That the January 1966 coup plotters intended to release him from jail and install him as prime minister.

4) That only Ojukwu could have released Awo from Calabar prison as Gowon never had authority in the East and was never in any position to order the release of Awo or any other prisoner in the East.

5) That Awo promised Ojukwu personally, and later said publicly, that the West would secede if Biafra seceded.

6) That Gowon promised him rulership of a re-united Nigeria once the war was won. That he resigned from Gowon's administration in 1971 because Gowon reneged on that promise.

7) That he encouraged the starvation of Biafrans durring the war. That he made the statement: "Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war."

88) That he was the architect of the 20 pound policy after the war, which most Igbos considered cruel.

9) That he commited suicide by poison in 1987 after a co-conspirator gave Babangida a tape of them plotting a coup.
As Adebayo Adeyinka, a staunch Awoist, put it:
“Papa Awolowo was invited for a meeting with President Ibrahim Babangida who was then staying at Dodan Barracks which was the seat of power as at then...
He gave Papa some options and that was for him to be ready to face a court martial, be ready to go to a prison, or better still go on exile
At this stage Papa felt instead of allowing some ambitious khaki boy to mess him up he should just pack it in and call it a day, so Chief Awolowo decided to commit suicide so as to save himself from the ignominy of going to prison for the second time in his lifetime ."

10) That he was corrupt.
As Adeyinka put it (in trying to praise Awo):
“He was stupendously wealthy during his lifetime, infact there is no company at Oba Akran in Ikeja, Lagos, where he does not have at least a five percent equity. Dideolu Court in Ogba alone cannot be valued at less than N10 Billion, that was the place that he had

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So...

@ bolded. We are now up to #3

Remember I said:

I think most of these things are explainable and I don't think any of them necessarily disqualifies Awo from being a hero, especially to the Yorubas. I'll expatiate in my following posts.

I will now continue addressing the points.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 4:34pm On Oct 21, 2017
grin
9jaDoc:


Here is an earlier post:

My man, each side will claim they are the ones telling the truth. They will put their own spin on things, manipulate facts and pull things out of thing air.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW FOR A FACT. THESE WILL LEAD US TO THE LIKELY TRUTH.

Here are some things we know for a fact (every other thing is lies, conjectures, twisted truth, innuendos):
1)Awo was thinking tribe right from UK (started Egbe Omo Oduduwa)
2) If Zik were thinking like Awo he would have started "Nzuko Umu Ndiigbo".
3) But the last thing on Zik's mind was Igbo. He started his revolutionary activities in US focused on Africa and black people, not Igbo.
4) Zik started a newspaper in Ghana with which he helped fight for Ghana's independence: WEST AFRICAN Pilot. He later brought it to Nigeria.
5) Awo started a paper a decade later focused on Ibadan called Tribune
6) Zik was born in Zungeru, was based in the West and spoke all major Nigerian Languages.
7) Awo was born in Yoruba land, based in Yoruba land and only spoke Yoruba (besides English)

HOW DARE PEOPLE COMPARE THESE TWO??
HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

The Simple Truth:
All everybody wanted was independence and they knew Zik was the person leading it. No one was thinking tribe until Awo introduced it. Everybody alive then knew that was the truth.

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/

grin
9jaDoc:


Here is an earlier post:

My man, each side will claim they are the ones telling the truth. They will put their own spin on things, manipulate facts and pull things out of thing air.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE KNOW FOR A FACT. THESE WILL LEAD US TO THE LIKELY TRUTH.

Here are some things we know for a fact (every other thing is lies, conjectures, twisted truth, innuendos):
1)Awo was thinking tribe right from UK (started Egbe Omo Oduduwa)
2) If Zik were thinking like Awo he would have started "Nzuko Umu Ndiigbo".
3) But the last thing on Zik's mind was Igbo. He started his revolutionary activities in US focused on Africa and black people, not Igbo.
4) Zik started a newspaper in Ghana with which he helped fight for Ghana's independence: WEST AFRICAN Pilot. He later brought it to Nigeria.
5) Awo started a paper a decade later focused on Ibadan called Tribune
6) Zik was born in Zungeru, was based in the West and spoke all major Nigerian Languages.
7) Awo was born in Yoruba land, based in Yoruba land and only spoke Yoruba (besides English)

HOW DARE PEOPLE COMPARE THESE TWO??
HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

The Simple Truth:
All everybody wanted was independence and they knew Zik was the person leading it. No one was thinking tribe until Awo introduced it. Everybody alive then knew that was the truth.

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ovamboland(m): 4:45pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:


No mind them. Whenever u say Awo they say Zik. As if there is any basis for comparison between the two.

Awo beat Zik in a contest and drove him out of LAGOS with tears streaming down his face and did you stop u b till he arrived Enugu. Chew that for a start

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by IkpuMmadu: 4:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
9jaDoc:


I was out. Now I'm back...

My man, how dare u try to compare Zik of Africa with Awo of Ibadan when it comes to parochialism and tribalism. Did Zik form or was he involved in forming anything Igbo?

Nobody has ever tried to equate Zik with Awo when it comes nationalism. They were not in the same league at all. Not even close. Zik was clearly thinking Africa while Awo was thinking Ibadan. As Unongo rightly said Zik started in US, thinking Africa. While Awo started in UK, thinking Oduduwa. Zik's paper was called "West African Pilot". Awo's paper, Tribune, could easily have been called "Ibadan Pilot".

Funny analysis....but fact
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 4:51pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ofemannnu:
grin

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/

grin

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/


Thanks for the history lesson, but u r not telling us anything we don't already know: Igbos are industrious, they dominate the economy where ever they go, and the natives become very jealous. See below.

Ahmadu Bello was 49 at this interview in 1960 yet he was already "father of the North". Can someone explain that to me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by IkpuMmadu: 4:52pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ofemannnu:
grin

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/

grin

So you want people like this to rule over Yoruba with their chameleon tribalist...


NEARLY 50 years ago, it is
said, that people in Enugu,
Nsukka, Ngwo, and
Abakalike had little clothes to cover
themselves. In 1947, the District Officer
prohibited nude people coming to the
Ogbete Market in Enugu. Yet, in 20 short
years, the Igbos were the number one
traders in textile.


The Bonny (Igbani Ijaws) sold slaves and
even had a most lucrative empire. One
Bonny Chief went to England and bought a
steamship fully outfitted with an English
captain, officers, and sailors to bring him
back to Nigeria. Such business needed trust
worthy lieutenants. These the Bonny Chiefs
found among the Igbo slaves who became
their trusted employees. The “Civil Servant
Employees” became trustees.
The Igbani Chiefs, however, were not over
trusting. They did not want the Igbos to
learn their language for fear of being
overthrown or appealing directly to their
gods. The Igbanis, therefore, decided to
learn Igbo to better communicate with their
trustees; while keeping Igbani as the royal
language to be used only by the Chiefs
among themselves.
Guardian..source.
http://jimidisu.com/the-igbos-and-their-unifying-factors-1-by-patrick-dele-cole/



And you are quoting that retarded radio presenter Jimi Disi in a serious intellectual discourse....was he even born by then seff


Just see your life

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ovamboland:


Awo beat Zik in a contest and drove him out of LAGOS with tears streaming down his face and did you stop u b till he arrived Enugu. Chew that for a start

incoherent..

English sir.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 5:16pm On Oct 21, 2017
IkpuMmadu:



And you are quoting that retarded radio presenter Jimi Disi in a serious intellectual discourse....was he even born by then seff


Just see your life

lol..It was written by Dr Patrick Dele Cole...OFR..a Rivers State man..

IGBOS WERE/ARE IJAW SLAVES AND ALL NIGERIANS' SLAVES.
YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR TRIBE'S SLAVE PEDESTAL AND TRY TO PRODUCE AN IGBO EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT..Some people might change their minds and vote for slaves..

Patrick goes again....

The Ijaws of Bonny adopted the language of
their slaves, Igbo and speak Igbo now...

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/nigerians-and-their-origin/

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2017
IkpuMmadu:


Funny analysis....but fact

Funny but real facts.. grin
IkpuMmadu:


Funny analysis....but fact

BiafraAngitator :
Other tribes insult us because they're jealous of
our success.
We control 90% of the industries in Nigeria
We are very intelligent and resourceful
Fun fact: We're pigs but our leader is a Cow
named Kownu
I find great pride in being a P&I, so I made my
own profile. Read and enjoy:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phyllum: Chordata
Clade: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: 90% Artiodactyla 10% Primates [90% Pigs
and 10% Gorillas]
Family: Suidae (90%) & Hominidae (10%)
Tribe: Gorillini
Genus: Sus and Gorilla
Habitat: Mud huts and dirty ditches
Diet: Soups that look like human shiit. We're also
cannibals and we enjoy eating human flesh
Relationship with humans: Very anti-social
Culture: We have none. We have no idea where
our ancestors came from. In fact, we only
started wearing clothes in 1921.
Lifespan: Our lifespan is usually cut short by
executions in Malaysia, China, Indonesia, India,
South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam and other
countries we have developed.
Intelligence: We are low animals with very poor
IQ
Description:
1. As a pig and idiot myself, I have a large flat
head and big nose.
2. We are known to be savages and low-IQ
animals. We're also domestic animals who are
slaves to Southwesterners and Northerners.
3. Cannibalism is very common among us. Young
piglets sometimes go savage and kill their
parents.
4. Sometimes it's the other way round - Mothers
pigs attack their piglets and devour them raw
when frustrated.
5. We are very low on the food chain which
leaves us vulnerable to predators.
6. We are known to be cowards and weaklings. I
grew up watching my hairy mother beat my
father up many times.
7. We're very irresponsible and love blaming
others for their shortcomings.
8. Our women are special breeds for prostitution.
Its why we occupy 99% of the brothels in other
regions.
9. The only god we worship is Money. It's why
we engage in Baby factories, rituals, drugs,
kidnapping and many other things.
10. Our female Pigs can be identified with hairy
chests, yam legs and very horrible mouth odour.
11. We are the dirtiest species walking the
surface of this planet. Even God knows this and
it's why he blessed us with red mud lands. We
love swimming in our mud.
12. Our population is dwindling by the day. Adult
male pigs are being killed in different parts of
the world everyday. We're on the brink of
extinction, please text "Save The Pigs" to 247419
to help us out.
13. We don't know who our ancestors were and
we still don't have our own country. In other
words, we're pigs of no nation.
14. We're the rejects of everyone. Even Israel
disgraced and repudiated us when we claimed to
be jews.
15. We're very anti-social towards our hosts and
it's why we're the most despicable people on
earth.
16. We're parasites who contribute nothing to
our host states. We're tax cheats and lowlife
criminals. Our survival depends on other regions.
17. We can't survive without our western and
northern neighbors. We can't provide for our
families without their money. They're very
important in our miserable lives.
18. We're known to shiit where we eat. We're
ungrateful bastards who can never appreciate
favors.
19. We're ingrates and uncultured bastards.
20. We like forceful attaches. We like claiming to
be what we're not. Yesterday, we were jews.
Today, we're gorillas and pigs. Tomorrow, we'll
be worms who evolved from the faeces of
Daenerys Targaryen's dragon. Our story
changes constantly.
21. Some of us are light-skinned because our
yam-legged mothers were riding the dicks of
white people when they first visited our lands as
missionaries.
22. We discriminate against our fellow pigs even
though we're all slaves.
23. We're cowards and weaklings. The only
weapons we can wield are our mouth and
keyboard. We can never put our words into
actions. For example, we threatened Fulani
herdsmen but hid in our mud huts like rats when
they brought the fight to our doorstep.
Thousands of our hairy yam-legged women were
killed and raped brutally in Enugu, yet we did
nothing. Oh wait, we did something - We ranted
on nairaland as usual.

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


4) That only Ojukwu could have released Awo from Calabar prison as Gowon never had authority in the East and was never in any position to order the release of Awo or any other prisoner in the East.


This one is a no brainer. OF COURSE. Gowon had NOTHING to do with release of Awo from Clabar.

Look at body language. Awo contradicted some things Ojukwu said, not once did he contradict him when he said he released him from prison.

EDITORIAL
Ojukwu Released Awolowo From Calabar Jail. QED

Mr. Okonkwo troubled by multiple argument fort and back, pointedly asked Ojukwu. Ojukwu's response was that, he indeed released Awolowo from Calabar Prison house.

Hear Ojukwu speak for himself:

“We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar?"
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 6:20pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ovamboland:


Awo beat Zik in a contest and drove him out of LAGOS with tears streaming down his face and did you stop u b till he arrived Enugu. Chew that for a start

Has tribalism driven u completely out of your mind?
What is this
What the hell r u talking about?
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by WetinConsignMe: 6:40pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ofemannnu:


Funny but real facts.. grin

BiafraAngitator :
Other tribes insult us because they're jealous of
our success.
We control 90% of the industries in Nigeria
We are very intelligent and resourceful
Fun fact: We're pigs but our leader is a Cow
named Kownu
I find great pride in being a P&I, so I made my
own profile. Read and enjoy:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phyllum: Chordata
Clade: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: 90% Artiodactyla 10% Primates [90% Pigs
and 10% Gorillas]
Family: Suidae (90%) & Hominidae (10%)
Tribe: Gorillini
Genus: Sus and Gorilla
Habitat: Mud huts and dirty ditches
Diet: Soups that look like human shiit. We're also
cannibals and we enjoy eating human flesh
Relationship with humans: Very anti-social
Culture: We have none. We have no idea where
our ancestors came from. In fact, we only
started wearing clothes in 1921.
Lifespan: Our lifespan is usually cut short by
executions in Malaysia, China, Indonesia, India,
South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam and other
countries we have developed.
Intelligence: We are low animals with very poor
IQ
Description:
1. As a pig and idiot myself, I have a large flat
head and big nose.
2. We are known to be savages and low-IQ
animals. We're also domestic animals who are
slaves to Southwesterners and Northerners.
3. Cannibalism is very common among us. Young
piglets sometimes go savage and kill their
parents.
4. Sometimes it's the other way round - Mothers
pigs attack their piglets and devour them raw
when frustrated.
5. We are very low on the food chain which
leaves us vulnerable to predators.
6. We are known to be cowards and weaklings. I
grew up watching my hairy mother beat my
father up many times.
7. We're very irresponsible and love blaming
others for their shortcomings.
8. Our women are special breeds for prostitution.
Its why we occupy 99% of the brothels in other
regions.
9. The only god we worship is Money. It's why
we engage in Baby factories, rituals, drugs,
kidnapping and many other things.
10. Our female Pigs can be identified with hairy
chests, yam legs and very horrible mouth odour.
11. We are the dirtiest species walking the
surface of this planet. Even God knows this and
it's why he blessed us with red mud lands. We
love swimming in our mud.
12. Our population is dwindling by the day. Adult
male pigs are being killed in different parts of
the world everyday. We're on the brink of
extinction, please text "Save The Pigs" to 247419
to help us out.
13. We don't know who our ancestors were and
we still don't have our own country. In other
words, we're pigs of no nation.
14. We're the rejects of everyone. Even Israel
disgraced and repudiated us when we claimed to
be jews.
15. We're very anti-social towards our hosts and
it's why we're the most despicable people on
earth.
16. We're parasites who contribute nothing to
our host states. We're tax cheats and lowlife
criminals. Our survival depends on other regions.
17. We can't survive without our western and
northern neighbors. We can't provide for our
families without their money. They're very
important in our miserable lives.
18. We're known to shiit where we eat. We're
ungrateful bastards who can never appreciate
favors.
19. We're ingrates and uncultured bastards.
20. We like forceful attaches. We like claiming to
be what we're not. Yesterday, we were jews.
Today, we're gorillas and pigs. Tomorrow, we'll
be worms who evolved from the faeces of
Daenerys Targaryen's dragon. Our story
changes constantly.
21. Some of us are light-skinned because our
yam-legged mothers were riding the dicks of
white people when they first visited our lands as
missionaries.
22. We discriminate against our fellow pigs even
though we're all slaves.
23. We're cowards and weaklings. The only
weapons we can wield are our mouth and
keyboard. We can never put our words into
actions. For example, we threatened Fulani
herdsmen but hid in our mud huts like rats when
they brought the fight to our doorstep.
Thousands of our hairy yam-legged women were
killed and raped brutally in Enugu, yet we did
nothing. Oh wait, we did something - We ranted
on nairaland as usual.

Sir, as moderator, I have to inform u that this thread is about Awo Controversies and we trying to get to the bottom of them.
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 7:36pm On Oct 21, 2017
Origamist:

the Fulani man,Umaru Altine, was a Caliphate mole who was welcomed by Zik in his bid to cement the North-East alliance.
He was instrumental in helping Zik wrestle power from Eyo Ita.
Check --https://thebiafran./2015/04/13/how-sarduana-infiltrated-the-eastern-region-with-umaru-altine-the-first-mayor-of-enugu-part-1/?
_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C9807240923

Michael004 see how im just shut ya mouth
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Ofemannnu: 7:47pm On Oct 21, 2017
SHAKABOOM:
An afonja die like Adolf hitler?Hahahahaha!joke of the century cheesy
Ojuku..you are a slave..
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by GhanaMustGoo: 7:50pm On Oct 21, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


I think most of these things are explainable and I don't think any of them necessarily disqualifies Awo from being a hero, especially to the Yorubas. I'll expatiate in my following posts.

masseratti, 9jaDoc, T9ksy, giftq, Ovamboland, oladeebo, Dedetwo raumdeuter, VillageWinch, Leez, fergie001, PenSniper, GhanaMustGoo, PrecisionFx, Ofemannnu
IJOBA2, CaptainJeffry, DanseMacabre, tawa89,
GoldNiagara, AlPeter, Blue3k, Justiceleague1, Nalikedis
diadem10, logica, vivere, CeterisXVII, Uglyojuku, orisa37
lawani, omonnakoda, zenmaster, koladebrainiac, Michael004, SHAKABOOM

What I.don't understand about Awo is, here he was an extremely wealthy old man. Why not just relax and enjoy your money and grandkids.
But noooo, he had to go planning a coup.
I guess there are people like that.
They never consider the possibility of.getting.caught

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by Leez(m): 8:06pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ofemannnu:


Funny but real facts.. grin

BiafraAngitator :
Other tribes insult us because they're jealous of
our success.
We control 90% of the industries in Nigeria
We are very intelligent and resourceful
Fun fact: We're pigs but our leader is a Cow
named Kownu
I find great pride in being a P&I, so I made my
own profile. Read and enjoy:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phyllum: Chordata
Clade: Synapsida
Class: Mammalia
Order: 90% Artiodactyla 10% Primates [90% Pigs
and 10% Gorillas]
Family: Suidae (90%) & Hominidae (10%)
Tribe: Gorillini
Genus: Sus and Gorilla
Habitat: Mud huts and dirty ditches
Diet: Soups that look like human shiit. We're also
cannibals and we enjoy eating human flesh
Relationship with humans: Very anti-social
Culture: We have none. We have no idea where
our ancestors came from. In fact, we only
started wearing clothes in 1921.
Lifespan: Our lifespan is usually cut short by
executions in Malaysia, China, Indonesia, India,
South Africa, Thailand, Vietnam and other
countries we have developed.
Intelligence: We are low animals with very poor
IQ
Description:
1. As a pig and idiot myself, I have a large flat
head and big nose.
2. We are known to be savages and low-IQ
animals. We're also domestic animals who are
slaves to Southwesterners and Northerners.
3. Cannibalism is very common among us. Young
piglets sometimes go savage and kill their
parents.
4. Sometimes it's the other way round - Mothers
pigs attack their piglets and devour them raw
when frustrated.
5. We are very low on the food chain which
leaves us vulnerable to predators.
6. We are known to be cowards and weaklings. I
grew up watching my hairy mother beat my
father up many times.
7. We're very irresponsible and love blaming
others for their shortcomings.
8. Our women are special breeds for prostitution.
Its why we occupy 99% of the brothels in other
regions.
9. The only god we worship is Money. It's why
we engage in Baby factories, rituals, drugs,
kidnapping and many other things.
10. Our female Pigs can be identified with hairy
chests, yam legs and very horrible mouth odour.
11. We are the dirtiest species walking the
surface of this planet. Even God knows this and
it's why he blessed us with red mud lands. We
love swimming in our mud.
12. Our population is dwindling by the day. Adult
male pigs are being killed in different parts of
the world everyday. We're on the brink of
extinction, please text "Save The Pigs" to 247419
to help us out.
13. We don't know who our ancestors were and
we still don't have our own country. In other
words, we're pigs of no nation.
14. We're the rejects of everyone. Even Israel
disgraced and repudiated us when we claimed to
be jews.
15. We're very anti-social towards our hosts and
it's why we're the most despicable people on
earth.
16. We're parasites who contribute nothing to
our host states. We're tax cheats and lowlife
criminals. Our survival depends on other regions.
17. We can't survive without our western and
northern neighbors. We can't provide for our
families without their money. They're very
important in our miserable lives.
18. We're known to shiit where we eat. We're
ungrateful bastards who can never appreciate
favors.
19. We're ingrates and uncultured bastards.
20. We like forceful attaches. We like claiming to
be what we're not. Yesterday, we were jews.
Today, we're gorillas and pigs. Tomorrow, we'll
be worms who evolved from the faeces of
Daenerys Targaryen's dragon. Our story
changes constantly.
21. Some of us are light-skinned because our
yam-legged mothers were riding the dicks of
white people when they first visited our lands as
missionaries.
22. We discriminate against our fellow pigs even
though we're all slaves.
23. We're cowards and weaklings. The only
weapons we can wield are our mouth and
keyboard. We can never put our words into
actions. For example, we threatened Fulani
herdsmen but hid in our mud huts like rats when
they brought the fight to our doorstep.
Thousands of our hairy yam-legged women were
killed and raped brutally in Enugu, yet we did
nothing. Oh wait, we did something - We ranted
on nairaland as usual.
grin grin
we all know d dirty cowardly spineless tribe
cant survive without d gambaris n afonjas yet dy are asking for a referendum
if i were u d silence of igbo leaders on secession will jolt ur brain but then once a slave always a slave

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Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 8:10pm On Oct 21, 2017
GhanaMustGoo:


Michael004 see how him just shut ya mouth
Re: 10 Awolowo Controversies: Are They Justifiable? by 9jaDoc(f): 8:13pm On Oct 21, 2017
Leez:

grin grin
we all know d dirty cowardly spineless tribe
cant survive without d gambaris n afonjas yet dy are asking for a referendum
if i were u d silence of igbo leaders on secession will jolt ur brain but then once a slave always a slave

I am against secession for personal financial reasons, but do u think it fair that people can't vote on wether they want to stay a part of an organization?

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