chatinent:
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A large number Jehovah's witnesses (in person) have this secreted attributes of not letting or bringing to public, most of their beliefs (is it because of the impression majority have on them?). In my own view, I think the impression has nothing to do with the religion but particular persons in the religion (who overreact). Therefore, why blame religion over a person's action?
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A life experience between a Witness and a guy he met on field ministry.
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I actually one day noticed a Witness in the field service preaching to a guy. On the long run, he offered the guy a tract and Awake! then the guy also brought a brochure to offer to the witness and said 'if you take mine, I'll take yours.' The witness responded: 'sorry, I am not allowed to collect that from you but you may have mine.' The guy fired back 'why?' The witness responded 'because mine teaches about God's kingdom.' The guy was like 'mine teaches about Satan's kingdom, right?' (...)
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You may be thinking sth, well this attitude by this Witness was unprofessional and ego-centric. The Witnesses are taught in the Theocractic Ministry school, accompanied with the Reasoning From The Scriptures reference booklet to - not only try to let people see their points while preaching, but also -- hear others view. Therefore, what do we call that witness above? Well, unprofessional. Some other things alike too happen, like when they invite you over to the Kingdom Halls and you invite them to a Church Crusade; some will be all rejection. Well, here are things you never knew:
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1. They do not have their own bible. I get this all the time that their Bible is quite very distinct from others. How true is this? Well, let me surprise you, they only rewrote a modern-word version of still, the original bible manuscripts that every other bible translator wrote from. In the New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures, the name of God, Jehovah, is used more than in other bible translation who replaced it with 'Lord'.
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2. They believe people will go to heaven. Yes, they do, they believe a small number will make heaven and the righteous rest, inherit the earth, the promised paradise.
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3. They don't do birthdays and festive periods like Christmas, Halloween, Easter etc. Halloween apart which is somewhat demonic, they believe that the outcome of the people who celebrated birthdays in the Bible took bloodshed (Pharoah's birthday,John the Baptist head). And for Christmas, it's pagan; Jesus was not born on Christmas day, which is true.
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4. They are not a cult group. Believe me when I tell you this, all their teachings are focused on the Bible. If a Witness made a misuse of the bible, it's imperfection and not because 'he is a Witness, that's what they do'.
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5. A woman can not lead the flock. Yes, this is driven from the new testament where Paul etc., took on the congregation of God. A man is the head, so it is.
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Some other things are clapping to praise songs, using their Kingdom melodies, etc. Truth is, before you judge, do some research, some things you judge are actually how it should be.
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Origin: http://www.chatdom.com.ng/tourism/five-things-you-never-knew-about-jehovah%27s-witnesses/msg44/#msg44
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DavidEsq:

Pls I wld like u to show me wr scriptures that support the trinity. It's ur opinion and since u feel it's scripture based, kindly enlighten us.

chatinent:

You mean Jesus is God?

DavidEsq:

Just as ur pops took care of u, loves u, instructed u to walk right and u say u ar ur pops son. How comfy wld u be if u never knew his name? Cld u address dis, without being defensive, pls? Particularly considering 1 Peter 3:15

saintmark88:


Baptise them in the name of the Father , of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.....hahahaha.......let's c what he will say now....everybody watch how he will twist it saying rubbish

Some did not receive the holy spirit because they were baptised only I'm the name Jesus. They had to rebaptize them in the name of the Father , of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

DIVINEEVIDENCE:

Daddy, papa, dad, pop etc are all names. Do you call your father by His full name? That was the reasoning of the early Bible translators which you refuse to comprehend.

DavidEsq:

At the bold letters. Abeg no vex o, make I laf fes. I just dey imagine u dey say "Gbam! Iv taken him down".
Firstly, wat u mean by trinity is that Jesus, Jehovah and the holy spirit are one in terms of equality, ryt?

saintmark88:


Then let it be the persons decision....whether to accept of not...not force it on anyone

atoleybaba:
abeg who force anybody to take blood oga? U better go and do ur findings well. And stop spreading lies. Every witness who rejects blood av signed d paper to reject blood with dre hands and are not compelled by d organisation. Everyone has right to do what he pleases d work of Jehovah's organisation is just to help d person make d right decision by sharing scriptural tots with d person. Dasor. Av a nice day bro. And make sure u confirm something's properly before concluding better still when ever u see the witnesses in ur area simply sit wif them and let them explain to u better and please listen with a good non judgemental heart and u will grab what the witnesses teach

BIBLESPEAKS:


Do really care to know why jw don't accept blood transfusions?

I'll tell everyone the truth.

but you see, the truth is mosttimes hard to uphold in this evil world. but since its the truth its the truth.

I want to take my time and be detailed in explaining this issue of jw and blood to you guys. but I must tell you that it will take a love for God and a desire to obey him to see the point, something nearly all in this world lacks, hence their not seeing the point jw are pointing out from the bible.

the first mention of blood in the bible is in gen 4:10 when Cain killed his brother Abel and God told him: "your brothers blood is crying out to me from the ground." note that Abel's blood on the ground represented his life, which had been brutally cut short, and cried out to God for vengeance.

some time later after the flood God again showed that blood represents life when he told Noah: "every moving animal that is alive you may eat, just as I gave you green vegetation, I give them all to you, only flesh with its life - its blood - you must not eat - Gen 1:29; 9:3, 4

About 800 years after God told Noah not to eat blood(life), he again commanded his people: " if anyone in you midst is hunting and catches a wild animal or a bird that may be eaten, he must pour its blood out and cover it with dust...you must not eat blood." - Lev 17:13, 14

David, a man agreeable to Gods heart grasped the principles behind Gods law on blood. in 2Samuel 22:15-17 on one occasion when he was very thirsty, three of his men forced their way into the enemy camp, drew water from a cistern, and brought it to him. how did David react he said: "should I drink the blood of the men going at the risk of their lives?" he asked. in Davids eyes, the water was, in effect, the lifeblood of his men because they went at the risk of their lives. so despite his thirst, he poured it out to God.

some years after Christ death, the apostles met and decided what parts of the Law given to the Israelites still applied to Christians. God helped them to understand that blood was still precious to him and meant life, so he inspired Paul to write : "keep abstaining from blood."
- Acts 15:19, 20; 28,29


the point is that blood has always been precious to God. reason? he sees it as equivalent to life. this is not only true for the Israelites or first century Christians but is also true for anyone today who is to worship God in the true way.

The reason jw do not accept blood transfusion is because of the sacredness of blood. its the item blood, it is not ours but Gods. he owns life so give it to him. people get to argue that transfusing is not the same as eating so its not bad to transfuse. its not how you take it in, its the item, blood. its just not yours and its sacred so you give it to God the creator.

when you think of what blood really is made up, you will not be surprised that it is viewed equivalent to life.
so people have been misusing life - taking many life inside themselves like they own it. God says no, don't do it. it was a death penalty way back in the mosaic law days.

jw want the best medical treatment, but they don't want to offend God.

DavidEsq:

Just as ur pops took care of u, loves u, instructed u to walk right and u say u ar ur pops son. How comfy wld u be if u never knew his name? Cld u address dis, without being defensive, pls? Particularly considering 1 Peter 3:15

DavidEsq:

Pls I wld like u to show me wr scriptures that support the trinity. It's ur opinion and since u feel it's scripture based, kindly enlighten us.

DavidEsq:

Pls I wld like u to show me wr scriptures that support the trinity. It's ur opinion and since u feel it's scripture based, kindly enlighten us.

saintmark88:


I'm not talking bout equality here....that's a topic for another day....baptising in the name of the Father, Son and Holy spirit.....clearly shows three distinct beings as one God....u asked for scriptural reference to back d Trinity, I have given u.....now u r diverting to another matter

Malolu:


Thanks bro. I know who my pops is o..lol..Thanks for that verse. According to the same verse you cited, My one and only hope, the one I have in God is in John 3:16; John 14:6 and Revelations 22:12-16. The fact that He is the way to the father is enough a great joy to Humanity. Remember the name Jesus (iēsous in Greek) i.e. Jehoshua/Yeshua in Hebrew means YHWH/YaHWeH/JeHoVaH has become our salvation (Psalm 118:14). The LORD (KJV) in capital there , is from the original manuscript יהּ meaning yaw or Jah, while the salvation there is from ישׁוּעה meaning Yeshua/ deliverance/ saviour. These are a little of prophetic but hidden statements by men who feared God (of whom was David). Again My hope is Jesus saves!. He loves us all, that's the good news. God bless you.

DavidEsq:

Now, we are talking on the same wave length . May God be with u and with ur family. May I ask a question, pls?

BIBLESPEAKS:


you clearly didn't read my writing or you read and didn't get the point. not surprisingly I said it will take a love for God and a desire to obey him to see the point. people make arguments about how blood transfusion is different from eating blood, my point is that those arguments are not valid when you consider how God views blood. he considers blood to be life, no difference Gen 1:29, 9:3, 4. so you got to give life to its owner. you cannot create life and so cannot use it for whatever you want. when you decide to use it, it amounts to sin, hence Gods law to abstain from blood.

DIVINEEVIDENCE:

(Luke 14:8-14) Jesus' equality with the Father.
(Luke 14:16, 18) Jesus being equivalent to the Holy Spirit.

DavidEsq:

Does the highlighted not mean equality? "As one God"; does it not mean "God is the father, the son and the holy spirit"? Isn't that wat u mean? I must first get wat u mean, so as not to misapply my scripture based response.

Malolu:


Sure

saintmark88:


I did Not say God is d Father, Son and Holy spirit
I said God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit

saintmark88:


U and ur congregation is so shallow......so because d bible says do not eat blood, pls were does it say do not give blood

saintmark88:


U and ur congregation is so shallow......so because d bible says do not eat blood, pls were does it say do not give blood

DavidEsq:

I say neck, u say throat. Wetin be the real difference na?
Pls wat does God the fada, God the Son and God the holy spirit mean to u?

saintmark88:


Three distinct beigns, one God....simple and easy.

Lem!me show u ur lie..u want to box me to say or agree that what I mean is God is the Father, Son and Spirit...wrong bro.

The distinct beigns not one.

DavidEsq:

Pls cld u tell me the implications of taking liquid by infusion? Or drugs(dope) by infusion? because it doesn't pass tru ur mouth, does it mean u haven't taken it into ur body. Between panadol that is taken by swallowing and other forms of drugs taken by infusion, cld u tell me the difference, pls?

DavidEsq:

That is to say, the three distinct beings are God's different or distinct forms?

saintmark88:


Bro don't twist by words, not Gods different forms.....three beings one God........

saintmark88:


Baptise them in the name of the Father , of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.....hahahaha.......let's c what he will say now....everybody watch how he will twist it saying rubbish


Some did not receive the holy spirit because they were baptised only I'm the name Jesus. They had to rebaptize them in the name of the Father , of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Peacefullove:


Guy, It means d apostles are disobedient since they didn't baptize anyone in the name of Father, Son and holy spirit .

Reference for the bold ?