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Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 9:36pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DavidEsq:Sorry about that. The reference is John not Luke. John 14:8-18. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by ifko: 9:37pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
oruma19:Yes when I said God I mean Holy Spirit, He speaks and u can hear him clearly depending on ur relationship with God. who scam u, pray very well and God will direct ur path to know the right way to toe in life and eventually make it to ur creator. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by DavidEsq(m): 9:37pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DIVINEEVIDENCE:U said Luke. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by DavidEsq(m): 9:40pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
nkembaby008:No Jehovah will not. See Proverbs 4:18. The enlightenment grows. In Acts 10:14-16, Paul's conception as to those who were entitled to th gospel was changed by that vision and prepared him for a greater ministry. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by ifko: 9:43pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
To all d JW in d house be wise. D's ur heresy doctrine from American cultist is taking u no where. my prayer is that u will see d true light before it s too late. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 9:43pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
JW dnt believe n Jesus, they equate him with angel Michael, even call him an Angel, they dnt believe n hell, they dnt believe n spirit, dnt do blood transfusion.m, consider true believers in Jesus Christ, unbelievers, will never pray with u because they see u as condenmed , lost. That s a secret cult...... |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by softG(m): 9:46pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
emsheddy:This is a religious issue rather than a medical one. Both the Old and New Testaments clearly command us to abstain from blood. (Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:10; Deuteronomy 12:23; Acts 15:28, 29 ) Also, God views blood as representing life. (Leviticus 17:14 ) So we avoid taking blood not only in obedience to God but also out of respect for him as the Giver of life. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jehovahs-witnesses-why-no-blood-transfusions/ |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 9:47pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DavidEsq: Yeah, just as we r all human beings equal in nature, not equal in terms of authority and responsibility.....u |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 9:49pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
softG: But then y do u take the blood of his son shed for u and I......y not obey ur crooked interpretation and reject that |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 9:54pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Have a friend who will argue and defend this occultic doctrine, could even spill her blood for it.....her eyes were later opened to the truth....she left, her elder bro is still a JW, do u know that today she n her bro are not close at all nymore ....because she left the church......unfortunate man |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by ifko: 10:04pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
saintmark88:That s it,very similar to my mum's friend case. She doesn't roll with her bros again because she left. The woman is a devoted Baptist now. point of correction not Church I see them as an occultic group. Anti Christ people. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by softG(m): 10:06pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
rottennaija:Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Feel That They Are the Only People Who Will Be Saved? No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation. The Bible explains that in God’s promised new world, “there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15 ) Additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve God, and they too will gain salvation. In any case, it’s not our job to judge who will or won’t be saved. That assignment rests squarely in Jesus’ hands.— John 5:22, 27 https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/ Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe in Jesus? Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6 ) We have faith that Jesus came to earth from heaven and gave his perfect human life as a ransom sacrifice. (Matthew 20:28 ) His death and resurrection make it possible for those exercising faith in him to gain everlasting life. (John 3:16 ) We also believe that Jesus is now ruling as King of God’s heavenly Kingdom, which will soon bring peace to the entire earth. (Revelation 11:15 ) However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28 ) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/believe-in-jesus/ 1 Like |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 10:08pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DavidEsq: I knew that was the scripture you would quote because that somehow, absolves them of the guilt, of pretty much murdering people. "Oh well, the light got brighter". Since the light can still get brighter at any time they deem fit, don't you think it's logical to let certain things that are not written in black and white to be left to people's consciences? In Leviticus 17:15, if you ate a dead animal that had not been bled, you only had to bathe till evening and be clean. Also in Matthew 12:3-7 and Matthew 12:11, preserving life took precedence over strict law keeping. Blood is a symbol of life, why should the symbol be more important than the life itself? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 10:13pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DavidEsq: I am sorry to say. Comma doesn't speak anything from God, HIS word does!!!! Comma was created by man. God didn't use comma when he spoke to Moses! He spoke what needed to be done and not done as children of God. I don't really get involve in such arguments tho but it's better to share your thoughts as laid down by the help of His Spirit just as the Eunuch was helped. I rest my case. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by emsheddy(m): 10:16pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
softG:There is nothing religious there. Except of course what you have been programmed to believe. God gifted us with science. Science saves life. Stop using the Bible in the wrong context! In loving memory of all those who should be alive today but opted to kill themselves by refusing a medical procedure that would have saved their life |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by emsheddy(m): 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
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Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nielsek(m): 10:30pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
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Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nicejay30(m): 10:32pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
DavidEsq:what scripture pls... Did he also talk about the prostitute if so pls show me... |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 10:38pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
saintmark88: That's very correct, blood taken orally is digested like food and the nutrients are absorbed but blood taken intravenously behaves just like blood. It's like getting an organ transplant 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nicejay30(m): 10:42pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Itz funny what u people are saying about dis blood ish... God's instruction was dat we should abstain from anything dat has been touched with blood especially when dead... Except being killed by us 4 food.... Dats so far from transfusing blood na as d person is still alive and not dead... Itz basically as food cos God sees whatever thing touched by blood as unclean Datz y a lady cnt lead the church cos she has periods of uncleanliness which is her menstruation... My church allows women to preach but not as d head of d church as it is biblical... In essence abstain from blood there means abstain from everything touched by blood mostly as food... Mind u is there no blood in our system, why dnt we abstain from ourselves then since u say God hates blood.. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 10:45pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
softG: So how would you interpret Matthew 15:11? And why is the representation/symbol of life more important than the life itself? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by adajoe555: 10:46pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
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Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by softG(m): 11:05pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
nkembaby008: Have Jehovah’s Witnesses Changed the Bible to Fit Their Beliefs? No, we haven’t. On the contrary, when we have discovered that our beliefs were not completely in line with the Bible, we have changed our beliefs. Long before we started producing the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures in 1950, we examined the Bible. We used whatever translation was available and formed our beliefs accordingly. Consider a few examples of long-standing beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and decide for yourself whether they match what the Bible really teaches. 1. What we believe: God is not a Trinity. The July 1882 issue of Zion’s Watch Tower said: “Our readers are aware that while we believe in Jehovah and Jesus, and the holy Spirit, we reject as totally unscriptural, the teaching that these are three Gods in one person or, as some put it, one God in three persons .” What the Bible says: “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 6:4 , The Holy Bible, by Robert Young) “There is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” (1 Corinthians 8:6 , American Bible Union Version) Jesus himself stated: “The Father is greater than I.”— John 14:28 , Douay-Rheims Version. 2. What we believe: There is no eternal torment in a fiery hell. Quoting from Romans 6:23 in the King James Version, Zion’s Watch Tower entitled its issue of June 1882 “The Wages of Sin Is Death,” stating: “How clear and simple is this statement. How strange it is that so many who profess to receive the Bible as the Word of God persist in contradicting this positive statement, and affirm that they believe, and that the Bible teaches, that the wages of sin is everlasting life in torment.” What the Bible says: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” (Ezekiel 18:4, 20 , King James Version ) The final punishment for those who oppose God is, not eternal torment, but “everlasting destruction.”— 2 Thessalonians 1:9 , King James Version. 3. What we believe: God’s Kingdom is a real government, not just a condition of the heart. Regarding God’s Kingdom, the December 1881 issue of Zion’s Watch Tower said: “The setting up of this kingdom will, of course, involve the overthrow of all the kingdoms of earth.” What the Bible says: “In the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.”— Daniel 2:44 , King James Version. Do Jehovah’s Witnesses depend on the New World Translation to support their beliefs? No, for we continue to use many translations of the Bible in our witnessing work. In fact, while we provide a copy of the New World Translation at no charge as part of our free Bible study program, we are also happy to study with those who prefer to use other translations. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 11:11pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
softG: But I didn't ask you all of this now, all I asked was why are more than 20 scriptures missing from your bible and yet those scriptures are present in other bible versions? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by softG(m): 11:14pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
saintmark88:we are talking about the use of blood here literally, not the symbolic blood of Jesus |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 11:15pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
saintmark88: Jesus can never in anyway be equal to God whether in nature or physically or in authority. They are two different entity. The Bible represent Jesus as mighty and God as Almiggty also see Philippians 2:5-8. Jesus is not God n can never be equal to God. Even God have to exault him. U can only tell me they have a common goal n that’s to the sanctification and glorification of he’s fathers name God. The word trinity in itself can’t be found in the Bible which means the triad God, it’s a doctrines that originates with pagan as far back as wen King Namaan..... Even Jesus and the apostles didn’t preach trinity. Christians are to follow Jesus steps closely. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by dollarnaira: 11:24pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Leave these guys alone they are the only group of ppu that preach from house to house.Your Go's are living fat with ur stressed money.This is the only religion yet to b commercialized still some ppu still hate them.haba!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by atoleybaba(m): 11:31pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
nkembaby008:stop saying shit. D card is given so that it can rep what u say during that time of crisis as it won't be easy to start arguing with d doc or d person might be in a state of coma DT card would speak for d person. Besides u are not forced to own d card but it is mandatory to own it. Jw views blood transfusion as wrong and if u are a jw u def goia own DT card cos u are convince that blood transfusion is wrong |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by atoleybaba(m): 11:33pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
saintmark88:what is brainwashing? What do u even understand by d word brainwashing? U better sit down let jw explain d Bible for u so u can be safe. Werrin I go tell u no go pass this one. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by natsuflame: 11:42pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Yyeske:if no one joins the army then there would be no wars. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by dollarnaira: 11:46pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Any doctor who still treat with blood transfussion is a learner and no longer seen as professional in a medical world. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by softG(m): 11:47pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
nkembaby008:Please Note In the late 19th century, scholars B. F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort compared existing Bible manuscripts and fragments as they prepared the Greek master text that they felt most closely reflected the original writings. In the mid-20th century, the New World Bible Translation Committee used that master text as the basis for its translation. Other early papyri, thought to date back to the second and third centuries C.E., were also used. Since then, more papyri have become available. In addition, master texts such as those by Nestle and Aland and by the United Bible Societies reflect recent scholarly studies. Some of the findings of this research were incorporated into this present revision. Based on those master texts, it is evident that some verses of the Christian Greek Scriptures found in older translations, such as the King James Version, were actually additions made by later copyists and were never part of the inspired Scriptures. However, because the verse division generally accepted in Bible translations was already established in the 16th century, the omission of these verses now creates gaps in the verse numbering in most Bibles. The verses are Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29; and Romans 16:24. In this revised edition, those omitted verses are indicated by a footnote at the location of the omission. Regarding the long conclusion for Mark 16 (verses 9-20), the short conclusion for Mark 16, and the wording found at John 7:53–8:11, it is evident that none of these verses were included in the original manuscripts. Therefore, those spurious texts have not been included in this revision. |
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