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Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 10:26am On Oct 30, 2017 |
DavidEsq: How does that even come close to answering the 2 questions I asked? What brought sexual immorality inside? Or does sexual immorality preserve life? It's fine if you don't know the answers I asked, just admit it. No one has monopoly on knowing the bible or interpreting it |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by sirBLUNT: 10:32am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ginaz:i totally agree wit ur perception on religion as karl max said "religion is the opioum of the masses,the help of the helpless and the soul of the souless and we are so drunk in it...to me religion is created by man to answear question abt GOD that he has no answear to, there is no true religion,there is an iota of truth in every religion but u can only know that if u have an open mind... |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 10:49am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Malolu: You're welcome oh. Exactly, Jesus wanted people to be saved and not be weighed down by laws, that had no real purpose with people's relationships with God. That's the main problem I have with the JW's, the arrogance and haughtiness of them thinking they are the only ones interpreting and teaching the bible accurately when a lot of their doctrines are ridiculous and downright non-christian. They also make up only 0.37% of christians in the world and 0.1% of population in the world and somehow think their religion is the only correct one. I try to learn new things everyday and I even learn from children but they wouldn't even listen to another christian preaching them because they know it all already 1 Like |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Schoolala: 11:09am On Oct 30, 2017 |
please do not believe whatever this jw group teaches have been a member of this group for ten good years and i was even an elder so I know what am talking about. alot of what they teach and practice have been change over time and they always use mind control techniques to make members get scared of living the organisation. they don't have respect for family union this cult group will totally destroy your brain and how you think to the extend you will be seen non members of the jw group as devil. I left this cult and evil group after I find out about thee false teaching and mind control techniques. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Schoolala: 11:18am On Oct 30, 2017 |
and please never you mind the poster of this jw fact because he have been recruited to defend this cult group on naira land. don't waist your time posting because this guy is so blind folded that he can't diny been a jw member because he is scared of been excommunicated. oloshi people |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Ginaz(f): 11:41am On Oct 30, 2017 |
sirBLUNT: You see now? You can't questioned or seek answers or you are viewed like you are going astray and thinking like people of the world. This is what I so much hate about my religion. They tag you weak, apostate, worldly and having worldly thoughts when you see answers. I mean, this is my salvation, my future, my faith. Why should I not questioned it to ascertain that it is the right path I am taking? Why should I get shunned when I ask questions? Look at the way @BIBLESPEAKS said to me. I should not let my decisions be influenced by the thinking of the world. If I questioned my faith, does that mean I am being influenced by the world? I do not have the right to know about the religion I worship with? I'm open minded, I'm learnt to flow with it since I can't do anything. I hate the hard stares they give me, I hate the faces, the questions they ask me. Like I will corrupt their kids and stuff Anyway, I do not intent to raise my kids as JW and would not marry one. I don't know what I believe anymore but I am for certain God would not want a pregnant mother or a young child to die by refusing them blood. God is not wicked. 3 Likes |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by sirBLUNT: 12:13pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
that is wat am facing as well infact i was told if i dont stop asking question i wil end up been aitheist but i wont stop...right now i try to avoid religious discussions wit shallow minded people Ginaz i must confence u seems to be the kind of person i wil lyk to have as a friend,am glad hav med ur likes here.... |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 12:21pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
atoleybaba: I see Jws knows it more than any other denomination..you have the best translators abi??.....so the real translation of the bible didn't come until one American con man formed JWs in what century again??...so all those who lived bfre that century had a wrong translation of the bible....think man??....u have been brainwashed.....open ur eyes bfre its too late.... Heresy is a terrible sin |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 12:33pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: U just said the Jesus is referred to as mighty God.....so lemme ask u is Jesus God?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 12:36pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: Oh I believed they did...they often spoke about The Father , the Son Jesus and even of the Holy Spirit.............I asked again is Jesus God?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 12:40pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
natsuflame: Rubbish is the army or the force only for fighting wars....even great men like David had armies and were part of armies......what of armed robbers, kidnappers...if ders no one in d force den who will combat these kinds....... We can see the kind of evil world these pple want for us |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 1:11pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88: Jesus is not God o. Jesus is the son of God.. there’s is a father, God and Jesus is he’s son. They are two different entities and they are not equal as stated at Philippians 2:5-6. There the Bible said we should the same mental attitude that was in Jesus that even tho he was in Gods form (he’s fathers form) he gave no consideration to a siezure that he was equal to he’s father. Do you know that the word trinity which means a triad god head didn’t start as a doctrine with Christianity. In Babylon den they worship trinitarian triad god heads....the fundamental thing is that the doctrine have its roots from pagan (pls make ur research well) Jesus didn’t teach trinity he never said he was equal to God he even said he’s father God is greater than he is... so why will people now say God is the father, the same God is the son and the same God is the Holy Spirit. If it’s like that then Jesus was contradicting himself. Places where the Bible made mention of the three entities doesn’t mean they are the same. If u are to go thru Christ during prayer to reach God doesn’t mean they are equal it just mean Jesus is the mediator btw man and God. Mathew 28:19 says go therefore n make disciples of all the nation baptizing them in the name of the father of the son and of the Holy Spirit doesn’t outrightly make them equal in position, physical or in form etc. if the are equal n the same Jesus who have lived with God for so long would have known he is equal n the same to God and won’t come on earth to say God is greater than him. He would outrightly say he and his father are the same or equal. Now check Colossians 1:15-16 Jesus was said to be the firstborn of all creation n thru him every other thing was made n for him. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 1:18pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: One simple question.....why did Thomas refer to Jesus as My Lord and My God??.... Y did elizabeth refer to Mary as the mother of my Lord?? After answering those two, answer this one.....how can one b in d form of the Father if he himself isn't God?? Mind trinitarian teaching doesn't say the same God is the Father, Son and Spirit....that's the interpretation you and ur sect decided to give it, in order to make urselves feel.right. Nobody is saying the Father isn't than Jesus...after all Jesus himselve said so. He said I and the Father are one and went further to say but the Father is greater than I......but that is not the ish here U said Jesus is not God....but Thomas said My Lord and My God referring to Jesus....Jesus didn't rebuke him....can u explain that?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 1:29pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
1stflight: I guess u know God knows things before hand and he’s the wisest. If u can come to terms with that u will believe he would have surely known that in the future there will be blood transfusion. If there’s was a law that says abstain from water....so becos the law earlier says do not drink water so u now think the other law that says abstain from water will allow u to inject that same water into ur body. So as the bible said abstain from fornication do u think it’s only restricted to having sex only? Don’t u think all other forms are included. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 1:47pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88: Jesus is not God he is the Son of God.... there’s is a difference between mighty and Almighty? Pls read well. They are not equal ooooo. How can u be saying mighty and Almighty are the same. Haba. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 1:55pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: Isaiah 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Who made this statement......Jehova or Jesus?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 1:56pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88: Do u believe the word Lord is a title, if u are married ur wife can call u lord does She mean u are God.... Jesus being in Gods form means they are both in spirit form. So u mean the angels too are God since they are also in Gods form as spirits. U read clearly where the Bible says even tho Jesus was in Gods form he didn’t take it to himself to be equal to him n u are here still saying they are equal. If u have a son and both of u have lived together for long n understood each other n he understand u and having the same goals can’t I say u n ur son are one does that mean u and ur son are equal and the same? Just believe the Bible or word of God have no contradictions |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Olifiz(m): 2:07pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88: Jehovah made the statement about himself being the one redeeming Israel n he being the God of armies.... he is their first and their last. And there is no Other God except him. I’m sure u are aware that Jehovah or God or Lord (being a title) was being ascribed for God during the days of the Israelites. God of Israel or Jehovah of Israel, or Lord of Israel. Just know that Lord is a title not a name. God have been the redeemer of the Israelites since Egypt |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Wondababy7(f): 2:28pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
ONE OF THE WORST RELIGIONS YOU CAN THINK OFF THEY ARE A CULT!!!!!! EVIL CULT!!!!! STAY AWAY FROM THAT RELIGION !!!!!! BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES BELIEVING IN SOO MANY LIES ILLUMINATI MEMBER IS THEIR FOREFOUNDING FATHER. CRIMINALS AND LIARS AND BIGOTS ALL OF THEM ARE UNDER SERIOUS DELUSION WICKED RELIGION FALSE DOCTRINES AND TEACHINGS SHUNNING BY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY USED AS A THREAT TO KEEP YOU IN LINE YOU CAN NEVER ESCAPE THEM I FEEL SO BAD FOR ANY ONE WHO HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THIS EVIL RELIGION YOUR OWN DON FINISH DENIERS OF CHRIST YOU WITNESSES ARE EVEN WORST THAN DEVIL WORSHIPPER BEACUSE DEVIL WORSHIPPER AT LEAST NO SAY JESUS IS LORD AND THEY FEAR HIS MIGHTY NAME. ALL JEHOVAHS WITNESS ARE UNDER DEMONIC SPELL ISNT THAT HOW ONE SO CALLED ELDER TRIED TO RAPE MY FRIEND? AND THEN ANOTHER ONE CHEATED ON HIS FIANCE 2 DAYS BEFORE WEDDING? HYPOCRITES ALL OF THEM NONSENSE RIDICULOUS MTCHEEWWWW JESUS IS THE LIGHT THE TRUTH AND THE WAY. THERES A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL WAITING FOR ALL WHO DENY HIS MIGHTY NAME.... |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 2:43pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: Good!!!!.....you have said that the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the End is JEHOVA. Now Rev 22:13. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.".....who made this statement?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 2:57pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: Thomas didn't just say My Lord, he said My Lord and my God. In the bible the Title Lord in all instances was used to refer to God. So how come its only wen Thomas refers to Jesus as his Lord and God that it is now just a title that doesn't mean God?? Now bfre I drop this ur rotten analysis... Lemme ask u for one thing... Show me were the Title Lord "with the capital letter" didn't refer to God......and pls dnt tell me that in ur Bible, lord not Lord....through out the whole bible, old to new testament?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Nobody: 2:59pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
nkembaby008: I understand how you feel. The fact is that the witnesses reveal what other curves teach and why they teach such. So, the witnesses already knows what you believe, and why you believe so. When they disagree with church doctrine, they don't do so to be different, they have reviewed thoroughly why you believe so and see that it has no strong biblical basis. That is why they often know what to say when you raise objection, because they already know the scriptures you use in supporting your views. They also see its weaknesses. However, theyont believe they know it all. They do change their beliefs if they see reasons. But those witnessed that call on ur door isn't the ones that change the belief. They have a body that does so. Individual witnesses can only write to this body, asking questions and making recommendations. The witnesses number into millions, but they are few comparatively. This however, isn't a reason to think their teachings isn't right. Christianity was quite in the minority in the first century CE. That didn't change the fine truth dispensed by Jesus disciples back then. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by Adexy4us(m): 3:39pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
For all Jehovah's witnesses here pls stop this arguments with this people or trying to explain anything to them... It will hardly yield any good results.... They have been blind folded.... Titus 3:9, Col 2:4 |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 4:35pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
JMAN05: okay, you said they know why I raise an objection and they know what other religions teach. There are 4,200 religions in the world, how has your church managed to learn about all of them to know their doctrines are wrong? I asked a few questions earlier to 2 of your members in the threads above but none has replied me, so I'll ask you. 1) Why have more than 20 scriptures been removed from the newest edition of your bible? They've been there in your other editions and in other bibles. 2) You agree that blood is a symbol/representation of life, so why would you give up your life to honour a symbol? Why is the symbol of life more important than the life itself? 3) If taking blood pollutes the body, how would you interpret Matthew 15:11 or Mark 7:15-16? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 4:36pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Olifiz: Did u run away??....come and get choked up on ur lies.....pls answer who made the statement in Rev 22:13 and Rev 1:8?? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 4:38pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
nkembaby008: Dnt mind these guys oh....I have choked one up on his lies and he ran away...I pray he comes back so we will c how he will twist himself into anoda corner |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by atoleybaba(m): 5:41pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88:how many translations av u read 1st of all. Again y don't u sit with d witnesses let dem show u diff bible translation so u can see ur ignorance. |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by atoleybaba(m): 5:55pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
nkembaby008:u are still scattering everything in ur head. Cos of ur hatred for d witnesses. Did u observe were I used mandatory and compulsory? Anyways since u av refused to av sense lemme say it in another form. Getting d card is for d witness safety so that his right won't be tampered upon if by any circumstances he is not in a good/healthy state to list clearly his medical option. That is d purpose of d card. Anybody who believes that taking blood is wrong gets d card. Keyword "believes". So has to stand as ur word to the medical personal if by any chance u can't talk with ur mouth or u are totally down. Lemme quickly give u an example of a witness whose belief was tampered with before the emergence of this no blood card. A young 16year old witness she needed blood she was in a coma her parents tried to reason with d doc that dy are witnesses and don't accept blood buh d docs refused to listen and tot it was their responsibility to keep d patient alive at all cost. She was transfused with blood and got better. Tho there was some complication later. Buh when she regained conciousness she wasn't happy with this. She felt bad and tried fighting d hospital legally. Anyways d end of it was that it made d country adjust their law for d right for a minor parent decide d medical option. And now that d card is now available, the doc don't need to argue with anybody so far d patient signature dy are say he no want blood. Are u now cleared? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by saintmark88(m): 7:26pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
atoleybaba: I have sat with ur likes and disgraced dem, ur oda fellow here ran away wen I pinned him down on his own lies |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by chatinent: 7:26pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ginaz:I too lived my young life a JW, I feel your outcry. However, what sorted out my inquisitiveness was the character my uncles portrayed. Their good character was like a suit they wore outside to impress onlookers and took off when they got home. However 'the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit' seem more of Trinity which is unbiblical as how it is viewed today. Moreover, the bringing in of another religion's brochure into a JW family and they prohibiting it is not supposed to be so. I was born inquisitive and a researcher. I love to know new things, so they hindering that gift for 'personal dogma' isa absurd thinking it would change the mind pattern, not knowing some just want to compare and contrast. 1 Like |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 7:47pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
atoleybaba: Lmao I hate the witnesses? How? By asking you questions, I hate you? You're the one murdering English language to prove your non-existent point. My initial point was that it was compulsory for Jehovahs witnesses to carry the card to prove that they don't take blood. You said it's mandatory to carry the card, which proves my point, so I don't know what your argument is for. "A 16 year old girl sued hospital and the country changed their rules " What is the link between that and what we were arguing about? |
Re: Five Things You Never Knew About Jehovah's Witnesses. by nkembaby008: 7:53pm On Oct 30, 2017 |
saintmark88: . It's mind-boggling how they pick and choose what to answer and run away when it suits them or in the case of atoleybaba, argue blindly and add cheap insults. |
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