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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Austinpee4: 6:55pm On Nov 03, 2017
tommee:


Hello Bro,

I sent you a mail, really really sorry to bother you
Hey bro, sorry for the late response. Been tied up with alot. I will check my inbox and revert back to you in a jiffy.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by bluegirl080115: 7:35pm On Nov 03, 2017
Hey Fam

@dayusin sorry for a very late reply. . Been really busy

What's up house?

Greetings
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by 10shuare: 7:49pm On Nov 03, 2017
10shuare:
Somebody pls help me o I am so confused right now and don't know what to do. I was denied my Canada study permit. Reasons:
Insufficient funds without working in Canada to pay tuition fees, to maintain myself and to transport myself . I applied through maple education as my agent. But my agent now is saying even if am applying again I cannot use my Jan admission letter. I have to defer to get may admission letter to apply again because of d tym. And am 25 now and will be 26 next yr. A family friend is sponsoring me with 8million in his account. My school fees is 4million other expenses is about 3.5million. Tho I didn't pay any of my fees when I applied before. Pls wat should I do?

Again my agent gave anoda suggestion to apply to hungary to get a student visa nd i resume in jamuary to do nursing which is my choice of course because I was given biology in my previous admission to Canada.

Pls which step should I go with. Should I wait for Canada or go with Hungary?



Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by 10shuare: 7:51pm On Nov 03, 2017
olalives:
What exactly do ylou need?




10shuare:
Somebody pls help me o I am so confused right now and don't know what to do. I was denied my Canada study permit. Reasons:
Insufficient funds without working in Canada to pay tuition fees, to maintain myself and to transport myself . I applied through maple education as my agent. But my agent now is saying even if am applying again I cannot use my Jan admission letter. I have to defer to get may admission letter to apply again because of d tym. And am 25 now and will be 26 next yr. A family friend is sponsoring me with 8million in his account. My school fees is 4million other expenses is about 3.5million. Tho I didn't pay any of my fees when I applied before. Pls wat should I do?

Again my agent gave anoda suggestion to apply to hungary to get a student visa nd i resume in jamuary to do nursing which is my choice of course because I was given biology in my previous admission to Canada.

Pls which step should I go with. Should I wait for Canada or go with Hungary?



Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Jideola3(m): 8:29pm On Nov 03, 2017
Good evening guys!
Ive been following the posts on this thread for a while now. I am really impressed by the desire shown to help one another. I am still learning the ropes. I would come up with my questions as soon as I start my application smiley

In the interim, someone should please enlighten me. I do
not know if the requirements for trv have changed. A friend's agent said it is necessary for him to have a one-way ticket and accommodation booked for his visa processing. Please how true is this. Maybe the agent is not processing a student visa or he's fake.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 9:04pm On Nov 03, 2017
Demills:
Hello Everyone.

Am a prospective Undergraduate student of Memorial University of Newfoundland,Canada.

Have submitted all the necessary supporting Documents to the School but having a problem with the English Language Proficiency Test Score since my TOEFL IBT Test Score was not up their minimuim required score.

Please can someone tell me what will be my fate if i will be admitted or not?

Please i need advice from those who have gone through such suituations both those in MUN present and those in naija.

THANKS and awaits your advices and answers.



Hello my MUN colleague,
Good to see you here!
Firstly, what was your TOEFL IBT score?

It's quite unfortunate that you didn't meet up to the English language proficiency requirement for Memorial University. cry , I don't know why MUN always find it difficult to waive this English requirement for applicants from Nigeria, but not withstanding you still have a chance to be admitted by MUN conditionally into your 4 years academic program and successful completion of an ESL program will be a pre-requisite to your enrollment into your academic program.

To make it understandable in a lay man language, inorder to be admitted by MUN, you will have to register for an ESL program before you will be conditionally accepted into your academic program or better still, i'll advice you try IELTS TEST, I believe you will do better.

Additionally, I also suggest you write to the Assistant registrar that the English requirement should be waived for you on the ground that you were thought throughout your high school education in English, hold on and wait for their response.

I hope this information helps.
All the best colleague!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by abestine(m): 9:21pm On Nov 03, 2017
Jideola3:
Good evening guys!
Ive been following the posts on this thread for a while now. I am really impressed by the desire shown to help one another. I am still learning the ropes. I would come up with my questions as soon as I start my application smiley

In the interim, someone should please enlighten me. I do
not know if the requirements for trv have changed. A friend's agent said it is necessary for him to have a one-way ticket and accommodation booked for his visa processing. Please how true is this. Maybe the agent is not processing a student visa or he's fake.

That isn't true... I haven't read or come across any post where it is a requirement for book flight and accommodation... Maybe someone else that have seen such came back your agent up... Ire o!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by osento(m): 9:56pm On Nov 03, 2017
Crownny86:
I don't plan taking my wife to serve as part of home ties, but if it will increase the chances of approval I will.
Also, I am not really bent on academics with my years of experiences in HR, also I graduated with 2.2 hence going for a professional path of study with PGD.

PGD,PGC,MSC,PHD. Just put up a good applications and your TRV will be approved,beside people still put in for MSC and are refused... Tnx

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by osento(m): 10:02pm On Nov 03, 2017
4.6 mll inflow from a building in a month, bro this VOs are not kids, the VO simply knew you tried building you account because of the visa application, that's why I think he said lump sum.in a month such an inflow. To me its questionable ...just my succession ...tnx
tommee:
Hello Gurus,

Good Evening,My 1 year tuition is 15,445CAD for a 2year PGD intended study i was delayed 30th of last month for with all financial boxes ticked so i applied immediately for my GCMS note. After seeing the notes i think my case is a clear example of V.Os not checking all documents submitted please i really need your input and advise because i want reapply immediately. Apart from paying the tuition fee balance for 1year what other things do you think i can add to tackle this denial. Please see attached GCMS note stating Lump sum from an unknown source and below the history of the financial statement submitted.

Sponsor Mum
GT Bank - 7.8 million (Mum received rent of 4.6 million in July for a whole building she letted out to a school she also paid 7,500 CAD half of 1 year tuition in August
UBA- 2.3 million (her salary account with monthly income of 285,000)

My Bank Statement
GT Bank- 2.5 million (Mum transferred 1.5 million to me and she stated it in the letter addressed to V.O)

Please note that i included rent receipt of the 4.6 million and all documents of the building but obviously the V.O did not check the document and still denied me on lump sum from an unknown source. The v.O also stated i included a third party sponsor which is false. There two statement from my mum and my GTBank LOA

Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by skylar2020(f): 10:49pm On Nov 03, 2017
Hello everyone, please can someone help me apply for my gcms notes in Canada. A PR. Pls how do I go about it. I saw standard price 23$ but I read here if one has someone who's a PR he/she can apply for 5$. Pls house how do I go about the 5$ procedure.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by tommee: 11:56pm On Nov 03, 2017
osento:
4.6 mll inflow from a building in a month, bro this VOs are not kids, the VO simply knew you tried building you account because of the visa application, that's why I think he said lump sum.in a month such an inflow. To me its questionable ...just my succession ...tnx

Ofcourse i waited for the inflow before i applied that is why i provided evidence such as the pictures of the building reciept of payment C of O and evaluation of the building all am saying is that all this was not considered before concluding it was a lump sum from an unknown source. do u expect me to tell tenants to split the cheques because i want to apply canadian visa
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by olalives(m): 11:59pm On Nov 03, 2017
It depends on how long you're willing to wait[quote author=10shuare post=62047059][/quote]
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 1:38am On Nov 04, 2017
10shuare:
Somebody pls help me o I am so confused right now and don't know what to do. I was denied my Canada study permit. Reasons:
Insufficient funds without working in Canada to pay tuition fees, to maintain myself and to transport myself . I applied through maple education as my agent. But my agent now is saying even if am applying again I cannot use my Jan admission letter. I have to defer to get may admission letter to apply again because of d tym. And am 25 now and will be 26 next yr. A family friend is sponsoring me with 8million in his account. My school fees is 4million other expenses is about 3.5million. Tho I didn't pay any of my fees when I applied before. Pls wat should I do?

Again my agent gave anoda suggestion to apply to hungary to get a student visa nd i resume in jamuary to do nursing which is my choice of course because I was given biology in my previous admission to Canada.

Pls which step should I go with. Should I wait for Canada or go with Hungary?
I'm sorry for your visa denial.

Based on your question in bold, I would encourage you to not make a desperate decision.
A student visa denial solely based on insufficient funds is probably the most solvable denial possible.
To be blunt, Canada would be a better decision than Hungary.
But if you don't have the funds to go to Canada, then go to Hungary or wherever you can afford.

The main issue with your Canada app is that you applied using a family friend sponsor and VOs (visa officers) are usually skeptical because third-party sponsors aren't necessarily credible. A more credible sponsor is your dad or mom or even sibling. When your sponsor isn't a parent then you need to be extra convincing that the sponsorship is credible. One way to show credibility of sponsorship is for the third-party sponsor to pay your one-year tuition (attach the receipt to your visa application) and also deposit the CIC minimum living expenses amount to an account in your name (USD equivalent of 10,000CAD transferred to a dom account in your name); you would also attach this evidence.

This thread has discussed the "insufficient funds" topic over and over. I'd recommend you don't make a desperate decision. My advice is that you should ditch your agent and apply by yourself next time. For more info, read this thread from page 0 of Part 13; I know it sounds daunting but you will be making this minimal investment for your future. The returns on that investment are very high. (Also, read my several posts on this page about addressing insufficient funds denials.)

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 1:46am On Nov 04, 2017
jnyuwa02:


These statements made suffices as an explanation as to the origin of the lump sum and you may ask for a reopening of your case. Make sure to quote in verbatim the same statement you made before explaining the lump sum that you think the VO missed. Send an email to Accra with subject, "motion to reopen case based on error of fact." Then proceed to explain in body of email the factual error missed by the CAC, appealing graciously and respectfully that your case be reopened and reconsidered. Don't introduce any new evidence. Just a statement of explanation will do. Good luck!

Chai, this guy grin. Your suggestion (in bold) is sweet, concise, and is music to the ears.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 1:49am On Nov 04, 2017
tommee:


Hi @jnyuwa02,

There was no part where the sponsor letter or my SOP specifically mentioned 4.6mill because there were various lodgment in the account we printed 6 months from march to august and in march there was a lodgment of 2mill in may there 1.8mill and then july the 4.6mill the lodgment comes in annually and theres a line in the sponsor letter that states this. i never taught the V.O will see it as lump sum. I also attached every rent receipt that was paid into the amount from march to august from as low as 250k to 750k till it got to the 4.6mill please see below lines from the sponsor letter that is pointing to the rent do you think the below is enough to re-open my application and what are the procedure to re-open app....
Forgive me for being blunt, but you can't blame the VO for not understanding the source of the lumped sums given that you didn't explain it to them. It is not reasonable to expect the VO to make the connection between your rent receipts and the lumped sums in your account(s), especially given that you probably had a ton of other financial documents that they had to look through and make sense of. You need to tell the VO exactly what you want him/her to know. VOs aren't mind readers.

I personally think that the job of a VO is boring, and s/he won't rack her brain to make sense of your application if you don't help him/her help you. Apologies if I sound rude, because I don't mean to. Hope this helps.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by tommee: 1:52am On Nov 04, 2017
thesoj:

If you aren't 100% sure that your sources of lumps sums were explained in your SOP or your sponsor letter, then go back and check again so that you can fix it in your next app or however you plan to get CIC to reopen your app.

As a rule of thumb, always keep in mind that VOs are not mind readers. If an important part of your application is ambiguous and up to arbitrary interpretation, then best believe that the VO's decision may not favor you.

Once again, sorry about the visa refusal.

Hi, Please can you share the email address of accra and probably assist with a format of how the mail should go

Regards
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 1:55am On Nov 04, 2017
tommee:
Hi, Please can you share the email address of accra and probably assist with a format of how the mail should go
Regards
Read my posts on this page.

For their email, just do a simple Google search for "CIC Accra email address" and the first link gives you the answer.
Google is your friend!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 2:03am On Nov 04, 2017
thesoj:

Forgive me for being blunt, but you can't blame the VO for not understanding the source of the lumped sums given that you didn't explain it to them. It is not reasonable to expect the VO to make the connection between your rent receipts and the lumped sums in your account(s), especially given that you probably had a ton of other financial documents that they had to look through and make sense of. You need to tell the VO exactly what you want him/her to know. VOs aren't mind readers.

I personally think that the job of a VO is boring, and s/he won't rack her brain to make sense of your application if you don't help him/her help you. Apologies if I sound rude, because I don't mean to. Hope this helps.

You give VOs too much credit and goodwill. When the fact of the matter is that many of them do such a shoddy work reviewing people's application. From so many application of people I have seen, it is abundantly clear to me that VOs don't take the time to carefully review the totality of the evidence before them and read carefully people's letter of explanations. In so doing, they miss vital information and deny an application that otherwise should have been granted. Sometimes I wanna shout foul and charge them with dereliction of duty were it possible. In the present case for example, they stated that he seemed to be sponsored by "himself, a parent or third party." This tires me. Which one is it? A straight look at the column on the form that asks the question of who will be responsible for his educational expenses, should have given the VO a clue or the answer to who exactly is sponsoring the candidate. See what I am talking about?

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by thesoj: 2:13am On Nov 04, 2017
You are right, and I generally hold your exact opinion.
And this is the reason why I think that every applicant should prepare his TRV app with the assumption that the VO will be drunk and grouchy when reviewing his/her TRV application. As a result, my view is that the applicant should make everything abundantly clear to a fault. And this may mean repeating the most critical information more than once, in strategic documents & explanations within the application.


jnyuwa02:

You give VOs too much credit and goodwill. When the fact of the matter is that many of them do such a shoddy work reviewing people's application. From so many application of people I have seen, it is abundantly clear to me that VOs don't take the time to carefully review the totality of the evidence before them and read carefully people's letter of explanations. In so doing, they miss vital information and deny an application that otherwise should have been granted. Sometimes I wanna shout foul and charge them with dereliction of duty were it possible. In the present case for example, they stated that he seemed to be sponsored by "himself, a parent or third party." This tires me. Which one is it? A straight look at the column on the form that asks the question of who will be responsible for his educational expenses, should have given the VO a clue or the answer to who exactly is sponsoring the candidate. See what I am talking about?

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 2:36am On Nov 04, 2017
osento:
4.6 mll inflow from a building in a month, bro this VOs are not kids, the VO simply knew you tried building you account because of the visa application, that's why I think he said lump sum.in a month such an inflow. To me its questionable ...just my succession ...tnx

Personally I don't see anything wrong in a yearly rental of 4.6 million to come in within a span of a month before applying.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by osento(m): 6:16am On Nov 04, 2017
Bro such an in flow has not been noticedbin the history of that account, suddenly a huge inflow of 4.6m just paid in a month, that was the VO point of attraction...he never noticed such huge in flow in that account for previous month, that was what raised a red flag.. That is what I think...thanks.
jnyuwa02:


Personally I don't see anything wrong in a yearly rental of 4.6 million to come in within a span of a month before applying.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Jideola3(m): 6:34am On Nov 04, 2017
abestine:


That isn't true... I haven't read or come across any post where it is a requirement for book flight and accommodation... Maybe someone else that have seen such came back your agent up... Ire o!

@abestine
Thanks. It didn't sound right to me as well. Make my guy keep him money. Maybe the agent dey hustle Christmas money... grin

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by osento(m): 6:43am On Nov 04, 2017
Instead of having a lump sum and looking for way to justify it or clarify it to the VO mentioning it on SOP and LOE ,why don't you avoid such lump sum, when you know very well how this people review document,
the are over millions of people applying for a little space,so bro come up with an unquestionable application and don't give the VO and loop hole to check..thanks ...I hardly comment here, I js dey observe but this was also my case,that is what got my attention to talk here.have a nice weekend.
osento:
Bro such an in flow has not been noticedbin the history of that account, suddenly a huge inflow of 4.6m just paid in a month, that was the VO point of attraction...he never noticed such huge in flow in that account for previous month, that was what raised a red flag.. That is what I think...thanks.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Eilenora: 8:25am On Nov 04, 2017
Hello Guys,

Besides Smartlawyer, Mazuide and Judebebo32 has anyone else applied for PHD in here? those seem to be the only 3 I am seeing on the list of hopefuls.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by val4o: 9:42am On Nov 04, 2017
thesoj:

I'm sorry for your visa denial.

Based on your question in bold, I would encourage you to not make a desperate decision.
A student visa denial solely based on insufficient funds is probably the most solvable denial possible.
To be blunt, Canada would be a better decision than Hungary.
But if you don't have the funds to go to Canada, then go to Hungary or wherever you can afford.

The main issue with your Canada app is that you applied using a family friend sponsor and VOs (visa officers) are usually skeptical because third-party sponsors aren't necessarily credible. A more credible sponsor is your dad or mom or even sibling. When your sponsor isn't a parent then you need to be extra convincing that the sponsorship is credible. One way to show credibility of sponsorship is for the third-party sponsor to pay your one-year tuition (attach the receipt to your visa application) and also deposit the CIC minimum living expenses amount to an account in your name (USD equivalent of 10,000CAD transferred to a dom account in your name); you would also attach this evidence.

This thread has discussed the "insufficient funds" topic over and over. I'd recommend you don't make a desperate decision. My advice is that you should ditch your agent and apply by yourself next time. For more info, read this thread from page 0 of Part 13; I know it sounds daunting but you will be making this minimal investment for your future. The returns on that investment are very high. (Also, read my several posts on this page about addressing insufficient funds denials.)




Please can the sponsors bank details sufiice only for visa application? I have been working in an organisation since I finished my NYSC last year October and salary is cash based and its just 70k.nothing much to show on my personal bank statement but my sponsor has over #10mil in her account. Please gurus do u think I will be refused given that I just have one year post NYSC experience and before my Nysc I was an inten in the organisation without pay.please gurus help me I just dey get head ache for this Canada matter
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by 10shuare: 9:50am On Nov 04, 2017
@thesoj brotherly I am waiting for ur mail o....pls
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Lovemeplease: 9:51am On Nov 04, 2017
I need your help. I want my wife to do her Masters or PGD in Toronto, Canada and I want to accompany her with my kids but I will come back to Nigeria and leave her with the kids there, so my question is can we apply for visa at same time, I mean can she apply with us at same time or will she apply first then after me and the kids apply. We are thinking of first applying for A visitors Visa then after she apply for study permit. I have 2 kids, 1 a USA passport holder and 2yrs while another a 5 year old Nigerian Passport Holder. Again she is 30 yrs and a recent B.Business Admin Graduate from a Malaysian University with 3.01CGPA. Our Travel History, USA, Paris, Malaysia. We have valid US and Paris Visa. I will be her sponsor as a Husband and I have ties like 2 rental properties , a twin duplex and 4 blocks of flats with 600k per year for the flats and 1.3m for the duplex, have a balance of 14m and a domiciliary of 2k usd. Again if any body knows any college or university in toronto that will help, we only apply to university of toronto for healthcare administration. God bless
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Sharles: 10:28am On Nov 04, 2017
osento:
Bro such an in flow has not been noticedbin the history of that account, suddenly a huge inflow of 4.6m just paid in a month, that was the VO point of attraction...he never noticed such huge in flow in that account for previous month, that was what raised a red flag.. That is what I think...thanks.

How can one see the 4.6m inflow when the payment comes yearly and you any use 6month statement of account.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by osento(m): 10:49am On Nov 04, 2017
What I mean by that was, for the 6minths SOA such a high inflow was not recorded,and just 1month to submission of application ,you had an inflow of 4.6m and he submitted 7.8m. To me I won't pull such stunt,
you simply gave the VO more attention to your SOA.. To me its really questionable... And u going ahead to clarify it, it shows a sign of something is fishy ... Start building your account prior to the 6months showing steady inflow and outflow.. To me that lump sum messed up the whole process.
Sharles:


How can one see the 4.6m inflow when the payment comes yearly and you any use 6month statement of account.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by jnyuwa02: 11:04am On Nov 04, 2017
osento:
What I mean by that was, for the 6minths SOA such a high inflow was not recorded,and just 1month to submission of application ,you had an inflow of 4.6m and he submitted 7.8m. To me I won't pull such stunt,
you simply gave the VO more attention to your SOA.. To me its really questionable... And u going ahead to clarify it, it shows a sign of something is fishy ... Start building your account prior to the 6months showing steady inflow and outflow.. To me that lump sum messed up the whole process.

This is not a problem as long as you explain the sources, which he did! The VO was simply suffering from an attention deficit and common decency to read his explanations.

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