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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 9:53am On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Let this clip cure your ignorance for ever.

This is the answer to the question, Do they move the ball with pace?

Raheem Lawal. Wetin em dey do?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNe1XAwcQ8o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTOaOlFMgI
Sentiments apart Lawal deserves another chance if he is still inform.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:10am On Nov 06, 2017
tbaba1234:
Omeruo and Kayode have been recalled...

grin


More than a good News for my stubborn Dude on this Thread - Sir Forgiveness.

I hope he justifies his call up this time around, and also hope he's played for 90mins in one of the Matches by Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:34am On Nov 06, 2017
terzurum5:

Sentiments apart Lawal deserves another chance if he is still inform.

Who should drop from the team for Raheem Lawal? Keep in context how Rohr sets up the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:01am On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Who should drop from the team for Raheem Lawal? Keep in context how Rohr sets up the team.
Did Rohr dropped any player for Nwakili?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:14am On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


We need those who dream to play for us. Not undecided people who wants us begging them with conviction. They can go and play for the Queen who they worship with all conviction.
Read his last paragraph and read this your post :there's no connection between suggesting that an official be designated to build rapport and engagement with players of Nigerian descent born in EUROPE and you talking about undecided people and playing for the QUEEN. Your post is - I'm sorry to say - too superficial, reeks of ignorance and insensitivity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:17am On Nov 06, 2017
tbaba1234:


Obasi has lost some pace but he is still a decent player. He has 6 goals from 10 games this season in the Swedish league. I do not think he has any chance of going to the world cup. He plays more as a center forward these days and that position is booked.
Do you think CF is booked coz initially we thought DM is booked until Nwakili invitation, so you cannot say though not easy for Obasi to break into the team but giving him chance he w displace Simeon and Ahmed Musa with ease but i don't think Obasi w be useful at WC cos injury can set in anytime,base on this i still prefer Simeon in the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:24am On Nov 06, 2017
How was Iwobi's performance yesterday? He needs to shoot more.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 11:29am On Nov 06, 2017
Kog45:
Did Rohr dropped any player for Nwakili?

Gbam!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:35am On Nov 06, 2017
Mujtahida:
How was Iwobi's performance yesterday? He needs to shoot more.
very ok,yea you are right on shoot,with Wenger he w get it right soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:44am On Nov 06, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


Gbam!
Thanks,no player was dropped for Nwakili but for Lawal to get invitation,which player does he want to replace in the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 11:46am On Nov 06, 2017
Mujtahida:
How was Iwobi's performance yesterday? He needs to shoot more.

I second that whole heartedly. He gets into shooting positions a lot but rather than shoot, he passes. I dont know whether its Wenger's instruction or what. Playing both Iwobi and Oezil yesterday clearly shows that if given a chance to express , Iwobi will permanently retire Oezil( that's sentiments apart). I still maintain that Oezil is the weak link. But we know wenger na. E no get Balls!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:56am On Nov 06, 2017
kennysville:


I second that whole heartedly. He gets into shooting positions a lot but rather than shoot, he passes. I dont know whether its Wenger's instruction or what. Playing both Iwobi and Oezil yesterday clearly shows that if given a chance to express , Iwobi will permanently retire Oezil( that's sentiments apart). I still maintain that Oezil is the weak link. But we know wenger na. E no get Balls!!
Nobody is restraining Iwobi from expressing himself, Wenger already told him that he needs to scores goals to be in XI.

He just need to improve on that aspect,not that he is panicking, that's Iwobi game right from time,so he just need to learn fast on shooting and other things.

On Ozil,well good for him to bench Ozil but he need to work on a lot of things like you already stated,until he improve on some of his weaknesses,Ozil w still be ahead of him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:58am On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
CHIDIEBERE NWAKALI
Pictorial Position data


From transfermarkt

Make una fear God nau. shocked

From LM to RB!? shocked grin

I thought tbaba1234 said he plays LB? Now it is RB.


The person wey help no sabi work.

Now, this is the chat of the roles played and the numbers of times he played in those roles. You know what, no record he ever played as a RB. Meaning he never played the RB role neither did he ever played the LB role. Hahahaha! Go for refund man. grin

Chidiebere Nwakali

Matches as
Defensive Midfield 33 7 1
Central Midfield 6 1 3
Centre-Forward 5 - 1
Left Midfield 4 - -
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:00pm On Nov 06, 2017
kennysville:


I second that whole heartedly. He gets into shooting positions a lot but rather than shoot, he passes. I dont know whether its Wenger's instruction or what. Playing both Iwobi and Oezil yesterday clearly shows that if given a chance to express , Iwobi will permanently retire Oezil( that's sentiments apart). I still maintain that Oezil is the weak link. But we know wenger na. E no get Balls!!
Iwobi knows about it. I watched an interview his Dad mentioned it and that Iwobi is working on it. The thing is that these players are also aware of their shortcomings and aspects of their game that needs improvement. Here's a link to the video. Very interesting interview covering a range of issues but if you want to listen to the part in context go to the 16/17 minute mark of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoLUmuKRd5I

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 12:01pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Who should drop from the team for Raheem Lawal? Keep in context how Rohr sets up the team.
Etebo grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:02pm On Nov 06, 2017
Joebie:
Nwakaeme plays as a LW most times.. but hey, we have about 5 players injured, most of which are starters.
Also considering Rohr seems to be operating based on the pecking order. so yes maybe Iheanacho ahead of Kayode. See now that he has called up Omeruo.
Ogu will get his chance now that Agu and Onazi are out


Is Agu out? I read on Completesportsnigeria.com that he and Ekong are going to Rabat today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:14pm On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Make una fear God nau. shocked

From LM to RB!? shocked grin

I thought tbaba1234 said he plays LB? Now it is RB.


The person wey help no sabi work.

Now, this is the chat of the roles played and the numbers of times he played in those roles. You know what, no record he ever played as a RB. Meaning he never played the RB role neither did he ever played the LB role. Hahahaha! Go for refund man. grin

Chidiebere Nwakali

Matches as
Defensive Midfield 33 7 1
Central Midfield 6 1 3
Centre-Forward 5 - 1
Left Midfield 4 - -


I have never said Nwakali plays LB or RB
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:23pm On Nov 06, 2017
komekn:


When you can't face substantiated facts and figures create a diversion.

When you can't answer a question create another one.

And those who use sentiment, emotive reasoning and subjective presumption will jump on the train with you.

you're the expert on diversionary tactics.

I'm learning from you grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:24pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
OGENYI ONAZI
Pictorial Position data


From transfermarkt

This is the full history of all the positions Ogenyi Onazi played. From the same transfermarkt . grin

As you can see, he is more of a CM than DM. Going by this, we can conclude that Hope Akpan and Raheem lawal are in the same mold of Onazi and not Chidiebere.

Matches as
Central Midfield 104 12 7
Defensive Midfield 39 2 2
Attacking Midfield 1 1 -
Right-Back 1 - -
Right Midfield 1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:31pm On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


This is the full history of all the positions Ogenyi Onazi played. From the same transfermarkt . grin

As you can see, he is more of a CM than DM. Going by this, we can conclude that Hope Akpan and Raheem lawal are in the same mold of Onazi and not Chidiebere.

Matches as
Central Midfield 104 12 7
Defensive Midfield 39 2 2
Attacking Midfield 1 1 -
Right-Back 1 - -
Right Midfield 1
What position does Onazi play in predominantly for the Super Eagles? DM or CM?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:31pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
HOPE AKPAN
Pictorial Position data


From transfermarkt

This is Hope Akpan full position history. grin

Just the replica of Onazi. grin

Matches as
Central Midfield 136 8 11
Defensive Midfield 18 1 1
Attacking Midfield 2 - 1
Left Midfield 1 1

Source; transfermarkt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:37pm On Nov 06, 2017
Kog45:
Do you think CF is booked coz initially we thought DM is booked until Nwakili invitation, so you cannot say though not easy for Obasi to break into the team but giving him chance he w displace Simeon and Ahmed Musa with ease but i don't think Obasi w be useful at WC cos injury can set in anytime,base on this i still prefer Simeon in the team.

I never thought CM or DM was full.. If you remember my WC list, i suggested that the biggest openings was in the midfield with 3 spots uncertain.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:38pm On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


If you really followed the debate you should have known that tbaba1234 claimed Rohr was looking for a better DM because we don't have a DM who can play multiple roles and he challenge me to list any DM eligible for call. That was why I listed 4 players better than Chidiebere Nwakali in that role.


Oga, that was never my argument...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:40pm On Nov 06, 2017
Mujtahida:

What position does Onazi play in predominantly for the Super Eagles? DM or CM?

CM. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 12:42pm On Nov 06, 2017
My preferred world cup 23-man team.

1. Enyeama       
2. Akpeyi  
3. Ezenwa
4. Abdullahi
5. Echiejile
6. Ekong
7. Balogun
8. Aina
9. Omeruo
10. Awaziem
11. Joel Obi
12. Mikel
13. Ndidi
14. Onazi
15. Etebo
16. Iwobi
17. Moses
18. Simon
19. Musa
20. Ighalo
21. Iheanacho
22. Aluko
23. Success

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:45pm On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


CM. grin
So between him and Ndidi who is supposed to sit back MORE and shield the back four? I want to understand the analysis hitherto given by some here.
If Joel Obi continues posting quality performances without succumbing to injury, I see him getting a recall.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:53pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
RAHEEM LAWAL
Pictorial Position data


From transfermarkt

The full history of Raheem Lawal's positions. The sametransfermarkt is my source.

No too difference from Onazi, right? Kkkkkkk grin


Matches as
Central Midfield 75 6 8
Defensive Midfield 40 5 4
Attacking Midfield 18 2 1
Right Wing 1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 12:58pm On Nov 06, 2017
Kog45:
Pls can you explain cos i don't understand this abeg abeg,the young man is doing well now in the same league that we have Simeon Moses,Henry Oyekwuru,Anderson Esiti even better than Osimhen this season though bundesliga is highly rated.

I would love to argue my point in depth but I wont due to time constraint.

Awoniyi for me has not improved or grown at all since his Under 17 days. He was good at that level but when it comes to the men's game I am afraid a serious footballing country cannot have him in the set up as things stand today.

I will give you a very easy challenge; name 10 (TEN) Nigerian Forwards who would trump Awoniyi in the below broad aspects of the game;

1. Do their primary job as a striker on the pitch
2. Inspire the team mates they play alongside likewise fans in the stands.
3. Strike fear into opposing defenders.

Trust me you can do it, with ease. I can count even more than 10.

I saw a couple games when he was on loan in FSV Frankfurt and I cant say how disappointed I was with his game. Granted he has scored 3 goals in 12 games this season (his best goals return ratio in his career!) but this young man has PLENTY of growing to do before he can be considered as serious possibility for a call up.

Gbolohan Salami had a goal in every other game for KuPS last season - no call up

In 12/13 Season Imoh Ezkiel had 14 goals in 22 games for Standard Liege - no call up

For 3 seasons running from 12/13 Anthoy Ujah was netted over 10 goals per season - no call up

We all know what Onyekuru and Kayode's goal scoring feats were last season (both highest goal scorers in their respective league campaign's) before they eventually managed a call up. Still yet to feature in a proper game.

The CF position is the most competitive position in the super eagles. Awoniyi is a boy, likewise Osimhen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:59pm On Nov 06, 2017
Mujtahida:

So between him and Ndidi who is supposed to sit back MORE and shield the back four? I want to understand the analysis hitherto given by some here.
If Joel Obi continues posting quality performances without succumbing to injury, I see him getting a recall.

Of course Ndidi. grin

Onazi plays the CM while Mikel takes the AM role.

If Joel comes, Ndidi go Sidon for bench while Onazi takes his position. Joel will slot in easily into Onazi's CM role.

Except the coach wan deceive himself Joel Obi must go world cup if fit and this is the time to start blending him with the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:00pm On Nov 06, 2017
tbaba1234:


Oga, that was never my argument...

Oya remind me .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:06pm On Nov 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Why are you dribbling yourself like Ronaldinho on his best day? What concerns Ngolo Kante in the talk? Answer the question.

Tell us the defensive midfield player you feel we should have invited that shares similar characteristics with Onazi. I am waiting.


What are those similar characteristics?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:11pm On Nov 06, 2017
forgiveness:


Of course Ndidi. grin

Onazi plays the CM while Mikel takes the AM role.

If Joel comes, Ndidi go Sidon for bench while Onazi takes his position. Joel will slot ineasily into Onazi's CM role.l

Except the coach wan deceive himself Joel Obi must go world cup if fit and thusthe time to start blending him with the team.
Unless your analysis on Onazi is wrong- why do some here criticise him that he lacks positional discipline and ought to shield the back four when - according to your analysis - that should be Ndidi's role. Are they mistaken in their understanding of Onazi's role?
Meanwhile Ndidi has never - I dare say - given an outstanding performance in the Gwg as he does for Leicester City. I wish he'd do more in the Gwg.

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