krattoss:
who no wan go world cup

forgiveness:


'Others' na em be ya answer?

TEKEL: You have been weighted in the balance and found wanting.

Kog45:
My man am not here to make case for Lawal or against Nwakili invitation but to tell thegoodjoe that if Rohr really wants Lawal he doesn't need to drop any player cos when he called Nwakili no player was dropped,that's my point.

Joebie:
you can be blind to certain parts, and pick what you want to read. you got the message clearly.. you are just saying a bunch of nothings.

TheGoodJoe:


Osimhen is a young player in Wolfsburg, training with Mario Gomes. For his age, it is a dream come true. He should make the most of his opportunity, learn and work hard. His chance will come and he will take it.

No need moving. He might find himself in a worse situation.

Joebie:
Gbam!
World view is what many of us lack. We only speak with one localized mindset. People expect these people to think the Nigerian way, do things the Nigerian way etc although they are brought up in a whole different system. Very unrealistic.
let people who understand these things with a broad perspective be the ones to interface between Nigeria and the players in question.
Pinnick though knowing a player's father will do the magic. UK na Nigeria?

Joebie:
Komekn, from your list na only Hope fit shoe up for camp immediately should we give him a call up.
So let's start the real argument-- Hope Akpan vs C. Nwakali.

So you and forgiveness are suggesting Akpan and Lawal instead. Or are there other valid names?

Mujtahida:

Do you guys notice the alacrity with which this guys answer to national duty? Discipline and enthusiasm. This might just be what will make them great.

komekn:


Those are players I mentioned it's not a comprehensive list, there are others like Chuks Aneke, Fred Onyedinma,

It was not necessarily recommendation but comparison and a questioning of a system that by passed these players.

But for the midfield role I would be looking more at Chuks Aneke.

komekn:
Just noticed the Director of football at Chelsea a former Nigerian international has resigned, Michael Emenalo. He has explained after 10 years as director of football he wants to pursue new challenges.

Icon79:
C'mon, you don't think that KC can start ahead of anyone of them? Oh my, oh my ....how is the mighty fallen?

Listen, Kelechi can actually start for the current Barca team. He's better than Paco Alcacer, Deulofeu, and I may even start him ahead of the misfiring Luis Suarez.


O pari

Mujtahida:

Komekn's suggestion is a good one. All the foreign born players we have playing for us today were approached in one way or the other. What is bad in formalising the mode of engagement. Is it right to take Tammy's refusal and use that to filter others? Even when a lady likes you, she expects you to toast her. Some will toast you but a great number will not. The idea is a super idea. We've decried brain drain of our best minds to the developed World . Now is the time to brain gain from the developed world. Two way traffic.

joseph1013:

You know a well-read and possibly a well-traveled person when you read one.

The dismissive perspective of all who rail at anything foreign is just too parochial. No development will ever come from such.

I truly hope this opinion of yours is all encompassing. I wouldn't want to turn political but this is the same perspective needed for economic development. 'Foreign' goods and imports are not what has turned us into this backward abyss. But this is not the place to demystify laissez faire to the simple minded.

komekn:


This is not intended to be derogatory but it seems you are delusional.

I will not expand more than, please support your player but don't completely loose your rational head.

SerVik:

You should know that these strict laws and tags only hold when they are trying to keep certain players that don't have the prerequisite flashy resume from the National team, these laws are relaxed when their favorite players get caught in the Web.

As at the 2016-2017 season, millway were in league one but komekn who is known to have strict policies as regards national team invites as it relates to the league a player plays was gracious enough to reduce his standard for a certain fred onyedinma.

Joebie:
Good if it means more of our players will start going to France.

Mujtahida:

The title of Chimamanda Adichie's first TED talk is 'The Danger of A Single Story' which expresses the same sentiment - although in converse form- as the ancient Latin legal maxim 'Audi alterem partem'(which means you must hear the other side). Adichie's has become a favourite metaphor I use in ringing the bells whenever I encounter narrow-minded, stifling fundamentalism in any form.
The Red Indians have a very rich proverb that says 'it takes a thousand voices to tell a single story'
As far as many issues in life are concerned it takes a thousand voices to tell the story, a thousand mind to understand it and a thousand heart to respond to it. We must be wary of a single story. I had to drop that write up because his views regarding players born abroad and all that surrounds their change of nationality were choking me. It's not black and white abeg. It's many shades with grey
And we sure need an healthy injection of multifaceted perspective to move forward in Nigeria - even our economy is a mono product economy. At a time I was active in the political section on nairaland and I was shocked at the abysmal ignorance Nigerians, educated Nigerians display regarding very important issues like ethnic and tribal groupings. I was shocked to think this are their favourite topics but yet they have only very superficial knowledge about it. I digress. Back to football Sir.

joseph1013:

LOL. Did more of our players go to Chelsea because of him?

Joebie:
Brain gain has always been my argument for all sectors for that matter -- not just football.
But will some of us embrace the idea? The next thing they will say, "you think just because you come from America you will just come and chance me"
Some of us based here even feel we are more Nigerian, and feel more entitled.

Mujtahida:

The first wave of brain gain was from the early nineteenth century to the early twentieth century when returning and repatriated slaves from Brazil, Cuba, Sierra Leone came to Lagos and injected new streams of life into the town - in law, education, religion, politics, music, culture and even sports and galvanised the rapid development of Lagos into a vibrant, throbbing city. You remember Ajayi Crowther abi?

We need a second wave.

TheGoodJoe:


If you have problem understanding basic things, forget arguing. You are really pulling down the quality of the thread.

Look at the images and say you do not see similarities. Without tagging it, you will not tell which one belongs to who.

Mujtahida:

The first wave of brain gain was from the early nineteenth century to the early twentieth century when returning and repatriated slaves from Brazil, Cuba, Sierra Leone came to Lagos and injected new streams of life into the town - in law, education, religion, politics, music, culture and even sports and galvanised the rapid development of Lagos into a vibrant, throbbing city. You remember Ajayi Crowther abi?

We need a second wave.

komekn:


Those are players I mentioned it's not a comprehensive list, there are others like Chuks Aneke, Fred Onyedinma,

It was not necessarily recommendation but comparison and a questioning of a system that by passed these players.

But for the midfield role I would be looking more at Chuks Aneke.

forgiveness:


I don't know what happened to Chuks in Belgium. When he was playing in Belgium pro league I suggested they call him for the U23 Olympic but somebody here preferred a bench warmer Ndidi in Belgium then to him.

tbaba1234:


One of the major things that boosts civilizations is the coming together of different traditions, experiences and knowledge. This has proven true historically and holds true today.

America is a super power today because of its ability to harness the best brains from across the world.

Nigeria has always had attacking flair (for the most part) but lacked defensive discipline and organization. Flair come from the way, we learn football. Organization and discipline are usually taught. Many of our players do not get that education early. Players like Leon Balogun, Aina, Ekong, Ebuehi etc have better foundations. The combination of local flair and organization could help us raise a formidable team, now and in the future.

Joebie:
OPINION

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Can Tammy Abraham buck the trend for Nigerians representing England?

12:05 PM WAT
Colin Udoh, KweséESPN

After weeks of speculation, Tammy Abraham's future appears to have been decided following a maiden England call-up on Thursday.

Abraham is one of three uncapped players named in Gareth Southgate's Three Lions squad to face Germany and Brazil in upcoming friendlies.

News that the 20-year-old was a target for Nigeria has been the source of some discomfort within the hallways of English football, to the extent that the player found it necessary to make a clarification that his allegiance remains with England, the country he has represented at youth level, despite claims to the contrary by NFF chief Amaju Pinnick.

This call-up by Gareth Southgate would appear to be a poorly disguised attempt to tie Abraham to a future with the Three Lions before Nigeria do the same.

However, it's worth noting that, with England's upcoming games friendly fixtures, the door wouldn't be closed for Nigeria should Abraham feature for Southgate's side.

However, the big question for the striker is whether or not he can break the hoodoo that players of Nigerian heritage before him have suffered in the past when representing the Three Lions.

And there is quite the list.

John Fashanu was one of the earliest England-born players who had a chance to represent Nigeria, but thumbed his nose at the then Green Eagles, choosing to represent the Three Lions instead.

By contrast, London-born Tunji Banjo did opt for the West African giants.

The late Ugo Ehiogu became the first black player to captain an England team in a competitive match when he led the U-21s out against the Netherlands. He opted to play for England, and ended up with four caps, all won in friendlies.

Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor also picked England, although he insisted that despite reports to the contrary, he was never contacted by Nigeria.

He ended up with three caps.

Striker Carlton Cole also rejected Nigeria advances, and finished with just seven caps for England.

For Nedum Onuoha, it was an even worse experience.

After making 20 appearances for the England U-21s, Onuoha rejected a chance to play for the Super Eagles, deciding instead to wait for a Three Lions call-up.

That call never came.

More recently, Jordon Ibe has been the latest player to snub Nigeria, despite an approach from former Eagles coach Sunday Oliseh. His international career has also stagnated at U-21 level, with the Bournemouth man yet to make the step up to the senior side.

His international struggles ought to be contrasted, however, with Dele Alli and Ross Barkley, both of whom represented England despite having Nigeria origins, and have over 20 appearances for the Three Lions.

Beyond England, the likes of Denis Aogo, Patrick Owomoyela (both Germany), and Stefano Okaka (Italy) are a few examples of players who have seen their international careers stagnate elsewhere.

On the flip side, players born or raised abroad who have chosen to represent Nigeria have largely enjoyed international success.

Manchester-born Efan Ekoku made 20 appearances and played at the 1994 World Cup, while George Abbey, who had a Welsh mother, won 18 caps and a Nations Cup bronze medal playing for the Super Eagles.

Victor Anichebe made 11 appearances and won an Olympic silver medal with Nigeria, and could have been part of the 2013 Nations Cup-winning team if he had not prematurely called time on his international career.

Former England youth international Victor Moses was part of that team, and not only won the Nations Cup title, but is on the verge of playing at his second World Cup finals.

World Cup-bound youngster Alex Iwobi, just 21 and a former youth international, has already made 13 appearances, more than any Nigerian-born player who has represented England, and is looking like a certainty for the trip to Russia.

Admittedly, England offers players a more professional structure and superior organisation compared to the chaotic Tower of Babel that is the Nigeria set-up. However, in the midst of that chaos, champions have emerged, while no West African-born talents have ever truly thrived with the Three Lions.

In the end, the heart will do what the heart wants, and we will all have to respect Abraham's decision and wish him well.

However, the antecedents are hard to shake off, and they don't bode well for Tammy.

Kog45:
My man am not here to make case for Lawal or against Nwakili invitation but to tell thegoodjoe that if Rohr really wants Lawal he doesn't need to drop any player cos when he called Nwakili no player was dropped,that's my point.