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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:04pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:07pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Patriotism is an illusion. Today he is giving more than 100% to Austria. If he felt so Nigerian as you want to believe, why didn't he wait? He was just 17. Modified It was said it was told to him then that we were focussing on homegrown players for our cadet teams. That should have giving hope for Super Eagles in the future. If he was so patriotic about Nigeria as you guys want to believe, why didn't he act like Shola Ameobi? And did Ameobi later play for Nigeria? Why did he not die waiting to be called up by England because of patriotism? In all, Nigeria will ALMOST always be a second choice if they are afforded the opportunity both ways. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:13pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: Alaba is also Austrian. I think he was born and grew up there. So it is not easy turning down a call for them. I wish he waited. We would have certainly called him. By 2010 he was already a respected player. He likes Nigeria. He feels Nigerian. It is just unfortunate he also feels Austrian. So we wish him well and hunt for those who wants us ahead of others. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:15pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Lol so who among Balogun, Ekong etc feel ONLY Nigerian? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:17pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
[img]https://1.bp..com/-xjj1V3epb-Q/VsmVU1l8HVI/AAAAAAAIY_w/p2KPNV4mUIA/s400/0.jpg[/img] “All my old boots, balls and kits being shipped off to the motherland (Lagos Nigeria) this morning to the less fortunate #giveback #2nddrop #nigeria” I so liked Ola Aina as soon as I saw this picture. This was his 2nd Batch of kits to Lagos. I hope he makes it big in his club and International career. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:20pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: I am not and will never be against any one having feelings to represent another country. However, I only want those devoted and ready to play for us in the team. Not undecided. There was a time Ola Aina was not decided. Now he is. Same with Shola Ameobi. When they are ready and show devotion, no doubt, they can come. Including Ibe. I am against convincing and luring. When the player is ready, he will know. You can hint, inform him but not go the extra length. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kalapizim(m): 1:20pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie:gbam ! why didn't he wait ? he was just 17 .... I love this question die ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:22pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
They were decided. The opportunity did not come, so they changed their decision. Let's call a spade a spade. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 1:26pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You can see the passion We only want those who want us Those who love gwg 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:29pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie: I have no beef with that. I am against pleading and carrying flowers with tuxedo and a limousine for them to play for us. If the opportunity does not come and like the prodigal son, they remember they are Kings in their home. They are welcome to come home and fight to build Nigeria with their skills. My problem is with the Undecided/Do not feel Nigerian crew. They can ring when they feel Nigerian. Not going to beg them to play for us. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 1:30pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
I've been saying it here Ejaria has passion for gwg Ejaria will one day don the gwg You heard it here first 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:30pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
jotey: This picture make sense. Saved to my gallery and my new wallpaper. . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 1:48pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
goldfish80:They are four brothers not three: Francis(Andreas) Giannis, Thanasis and Alexis. Do you perchance know why none of them is interested in playing for Nigeria? Because nothing happens in vacuum. Well, when the poster I referred to was asked by another poster how Giannis and his family felt towards Nigeria, suspecting that they must feel bitter towards Nigeria, the poster said No, the parents werent bitter but on the contrary they encouraged their children to play for Nigeria and that if he (the poster) was still involved with Nigerian basketball at the time he met them he would have convinced them to play for Nigeria but that by then Gianis was already in the Greek selection radar and that fastreacked him turning out for Greece. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 1:54pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Magink:Post it here please. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:55pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Well, let's not be sentimental so we can think clearly. This is my suggestion on the matter. Sometimes we look like beggars, just because we don't have a system of approaching. What we need is a standard for invitation of those in diaspora. Firstly we need a database. These players should be put in the database while still in their early teens. Relationship with the players and their parents should be maintained. Secondly, these players, on a rotation basis should be invited to train with the big boys whenever we are camped in Europe. This would make the players have a relationship not only with the senior players but also the coaches handling the team. Thirdly, we should send correspondence to these players at important dates, and provide option for them to indicate their availability for National assignments with Nigeria. They should be informed, the option is just for them to show interest, not a guarantee that they will be called up. This way we know from the onset those who are nursing an ambition to play for Nigeria, and those who remain interested. With this process put in place, we will not need any middle man or any team to meet with these players for talks when we need them. We will make the job easier for our coaches. All they need do is look at the numbers and make the right approaches according to need. TheGoodJoe: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 1:56pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Wow! #MuchRespect to Ola Aina. May your wells never lack water, my brother!!! O pari TheGoodJoe: 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:58pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
People are attracted to good systems and good organization. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:01pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie:its not an issue. i get the perspective of saying players should declare for us. but I oppose it when its said that we should go for ONLY those who declare for us. Nooooooo. We don't wait for anybody to declare any sh!t for us. We go out for them. We engage them, we persuade them, we give them reasons why playing for us will do them good. with this approach we will gain some and we will lose some. at the end those we gain will don the GWg with pride. Their pictures would be displayed but only few would know that they were fist engaged and approached by us. Ebuehi would don the Gwg with pride hopefully by Friday. He ejected us before but he will don the Jersey with pride. One needs some depth to grasp these things. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:02pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Bia, Big Joe, did somebody hack into your account? Did you really expect him to turn down Austria even when Nigeria wasn't making any moves? Yes, he was just 17 but opportunity and time wait for no one. Who's knows if that might be the only opportunity he might have? Listen, the people we have issues with are those of them we turned down Nigeria because they want to wait for another country. As far as I know, Alaba never turned down Nigeria .... Austria came calling first and he grabbed the opportunity with both hands, as he should. O pari Joebie: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:10pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
icon79 I know you are in the U.S. So you can speak out of experience. Do you think we should wait for sportsmen of Nigerian origin or descent to indicate their interest to represent us or we should also approach and engage them(as in those who do not come out to declare for us voluntarily). Mind you I am not saying we should not wait for voluntary declarations. I am only saying that cannot be the only approach |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 2:17pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oluwashina ekelji has been dragging Tammy Abraham on Twitter Is it by force to play for Nigeria ?? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 2:20pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:23pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Conversely, Ameobi. Why didn't he turn down England for Nigeria when England weren't making any moves? Their heart is with both countries, not necessarily 50-50, with each player and their own unique situation. I wasn't lashing out at Alaba. I was only saying almost all of them are in the same boat. Let's not speak of patriotism like if we were presented with two passports. That of the UK/Australia/US etc, and our Nigerian passport, and we were asked to burn one, we will save our Nigerian passport. Most Nigerians will burn their Nigerian passports. It's a personal decision based on what the decision will bring us. Austria no near Nigeria when we talking football. So let's go back to the bigger nations in football. Most of them if asked to pick between Nigeria and the other country, Nigeria will be their second choice. let's not try to group some and castigate them. Of course some will get lashed at based on their utterances. Just today Tammy fell on England's trap again. Tomorrow IF he is forced to reconsider Nigeria, he will have to answer many questions from the Nigerian public. Even his "uncle" Pinnick may not be able to save him. Icon79: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:23pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I'd say not all but many. Answer: Ebuehi initially declined to play for us but Rohr pressed and today he is in the team. how's that for voluntary declaration and begging? On Friday I will display his pics in the Gwg as emblematic of what convincing payers can do for us. We will get the Baloguns who declare voluntarily. We will also get the Ebuehis who need convincing and all of them will don the Gwg with pride and play with so much passion and dedication that you'd be hard put to distinguish the Baloguns from the Ebuehis. Gerrit? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:25pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
I was just being sarcastic. Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
dont mind him! PROVERBZ: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Bro, when I was in college, I was the General Secretary of the African Students Association in my school. And anytime I see an African student, I do not wait for them to join us or to "declare an interest"; rather I will pursue them like a biatch until I get their commitment. Oh my, I was even able to get some Afro Americans and Afro Caribbean to join us. That's how you do stuff like that .... you engage them. And it starts by building a relationship as well. But once they make their decisions a la Tammy Abraham, you leave them alone and move on. O pari Mujtahida: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:28pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
haha same player that liked Abraham's England invite.. oga they all like us.. But they also like the other country. jotey: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:29pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Joebie:I knew you were being sarcastic.I just used it as an opportunity to address the 'declaration' mantra |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:33pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
I agree with you that the patriotism card isn't gonna fly, especially with players who were not even born in Nigeria. We need to engage these players and try to convince them that it's in their best interest to chose Nigeria. That's why I am 100% in agreement with Mujtahida that the NFF needs a dedicated team to engage these players and convince them to play for Nigeria. O pari Joebie: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:33pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
MetalJigsaw:Balogun said in an interview I watched that the plan in the Zambia match was to cede possession to the Zambians. And thats not strange. Teams do that regularly. So yes there are times when a team does not retain possession either by reason of its tactical plan or by reason of the other team dominating play. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:36pm On Nov 07, 2017 |
Oh my, I really like the sense of friendship and unity amongst our players. This team would go far if they can keep it up! Mark my words!! O pari [quote author=PROVERBZ post=62157994][/quote] 2 Likes |
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