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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:24am On Nov 10, 2017
ersonleads:
yes o! Ebuehi & Nwankaeme really needs to start cos dey av been patient enough
Patient enough?are they victimized or what do you want to say of Ogu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:27am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:

Hmmm...this game.

Algeria was also already out then. The ticket was between Nigeria and CIV. We lose, we are out. We needed at least a draw in that last game.

The Algerians played their best game of the campaign. We were not at our best and managed to escape with a draw. Our first World Cup ticket!
This match nearly gave person heart attack,20 mins to the end i just went outside praying to God.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:29am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:
19 year old, Tayo Edun (Adetayo Oluwatosin Olusegun Edun) was invited to train with England. England is trying to make these young men of dual nationalities feel wanted.
Do you mean England senior team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ersonleads(m): 6:30am On Nov 10, 2017
Kog45:
Patient enough?are they victimized or what do you want to say of Ogu.
ogu too has waited 4 an opportunity. Am happy to @ least see some guys coming into place so we can get a good team 4 selection
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:38am On Nov 10, 2017
Kog45:
Do you mean England senior team

Yes, he was invited to train with the senior team..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:50am On Nov 10, 2017
According to owngoalnigeria, this is the starting line-up released by Rohr after the last training session:

Line Up.

Ikechukwu Ezenwa

Shehu Abdullahi

Ola Aina

Leon Balogun

William Troost-Ekong

Ogehenekaro Etebo

John Ogu

Wilfred Ndidi

Anthony Nwakaeme

Alex Iwobi

Kelechi Iheanacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:08am On Nov 10, 2017
Clementoke:


Though a fan of Mikel, I feel playing well in the qualifiers might not be enough to displace any of those who made that WCQ qualifiers best eleven unless if you can prove that he was actually better than the midfielders selected.


wait, are you missing the point here? I am to believe that we are the highest scorers, we have the meanest defence and we beat the best teams around, then you are telling me that the guy that is EASILY our own best player does not deserve to be in the team? It does not make any sense, you have players there who barely had 2-3 good games, Mikel was very good(atleast) in every game and once he leaves the pitch the entire team suffered, and he added goals and preassists too

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:09am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:


If this is coming from you then no one else needs to be convinced about Mikel's abilities and input in the team.

That is why I call him "the orchestrator".


I don't see why I won't say something is good when it's quite clear. Maybe because Mikel won't score 20goals and people then think he offers nothing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:11am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:
According to owngoalnigeria, this is the starting line-up released by Rohr after the last training session:

Line Up.

Ikechukwu Ezenwa

Shehu Abdullahi

Ola Aina

Leon Balogun

William Troost-Ekong

Ogehenekaro Etebo

John Ogu

Wilfred Ndidi

Anthony Nwakaeme

Alex Iwobi

Kelechi Iheanacho


and what are their positions? If Etebo is the Amf and Iheanacho is the ST then we won't have a single shot on target
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 7:18am On Nov 10, 2017
Mickael2:



wait, are you missing the point here? I am to believe that we are the highest scorers, we have the meanest defence and we beat the best teams around, then you are telling me that the guy that is EASILY our own best player does not deserve to be in the team? It does not make any sense, you have players there who barely had 2-3 good games, Mikel was very good(atleast) in every game and once he leaves the pitch the entire team suffered, and he added goals and preassists too

U kept drifting away from the main issue. The question is, did u watch the other players who made that ceremonial best eleven during the qualifiers. Prove by comparing them that they don't merit their spot in that team. For me, I only watched Mikel during the series but I can't say he was the best midfielder in the qualifiers since I didn't watch the others play for their national teams in other games whose efforts might have been overshadowed by the poor display of their teammates.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:31am On Nov 10, 2017

Rohr Releases Starting XI – Balogun Wears Captain Band, Ogu, Nwakaeme In, Uzoho Picked


Coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria Gernot Rohr has revealed his starting line up for today’s game against Algeria shortly after the last training session of the team.
Goalkeeper Francis Odinaka Uzoho made the matchday squad, with Daniel Akpeyi missing out on selection while John Ogu was also selected for the first time under coach Gernot Rohr.
Anthony Nwakaeme will also make his debut as he is in the starting line up which also has Leon Balogun as captain, with William Troost-Ekong , Shehu Abdullahi and Ola Aina completing the back four.
Line Up.
Ikechukwu Ezenwa
Shehu Abdullahi
Ola Aina
Leon Balogun
William Troost-Ekong
Ogehenekaro Etebo
John Ogu
Wilfred Ndidi
Anthony Nwakaeme
Alex Iwobi
Kelechi Iheanacho

Maxwell Pius

source: OGN
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 7:36am On Nov 10, 2017
We may likely find it hard to score due to lack of experience up front
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kakamorufu(m): 7:48am On Nov 10, 2017
I still don't feel good with iheanacho play top 9. I feel we need a backup striker in ighalo mould to be around in the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:02am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


Nwakaeme usually plays from the left at club level so he might be on the left with Iwobi on the right.

A good one then. Maybe Iwobi will play AM and Etebo from the right.

But I still fill Mikel should start.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:04am On Nov 10, 2017
Kakamorufu:
I still don't feel good with iheanacho play top 9. I feel we need a backup striker in ighalo mould to be around in the team.

So who is that player that is in "Ighalo mould"?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:04am On Nov 10, 2017
Just rewatched the Zambian game. Second half mainly.

The gulf in class between Iwobi and Simon is big. If Iwobi can be more consistent for Nigeria, I don't see Simon benching him. Key word, consistency because Iwobi has had some stinkers for Nigeria.

In the midfield, Mikel played the attacking role, Ndidi played the CM midfield role while Agu/Onazi sat in front of the defence. Earlier in the campaign, Rohr experimented with a double pivot system. (Against Algeria, Etebo and Onazi played in front of the defence.) Rohr appears to be willing to change systems depending on the game, that is a good thing.

Mikel Obi is the Choirmaster, Everything good goes through him. The short passes between Mikel, Moses and Iwobi was beautiful to watch.

Mikel Agu has good positional discipline. He might not have been too impressive so far but he keeps his position well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:05am On Nov 10, 2017
zuchyblink:
We may likely find it hard to score due to lack of experience up front

That is why we need Mikel in that AM position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:08am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:


A good one then. Maybe Iwobi will play AM and Etebo from the right.

But I still fill Mikel should start.

Well, it is an unimportant game. Mikel might not even be needed. I am sure, we will see Mikel against Argentina.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:29am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:


A good one then. Maybe Iwobi will play AM and Etebo from the right.

But I still fill Mikel should start.
Let him be fresh for Argentina match but i want to see Awaziem instead of Ekong just to see what he can do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:30am On Nov 10, 2017
Clementoke:


U kept drifting away from the main issue. The question is, did u watch the other players who made that ceremonial best eleven during the qualifiers. Prove by comparing them that they don't merit their spot in that team. For me, I only watched Mikel during the series but I can't say he was the best midfielder in the qualifiers since I didn't watch the others play for their national teams in other games whose efforts might have been overshadowed by the poor display of their teammates.


do you know how these things work? You cannot tell me that Ramos who is error-prone performed better than.....Koulibaly for example at Napoli, but Madrid won the champions league and Ramos made the FIFA pro XI. De Gea was saving one-on-ones like it was nobody's business but guess who won the best GK? Buffon. Your performance IS NOT independent of your team's performance, football is a team game and that is why these awards also depend on how your team, of which you are a part, performs.


We are looking at the best team, it can be agreed factually that the best team has the best midfield, Nigeria was the best team with the best midfield and we are asking if the best midfielder of that team(Mikel) should make the team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:30am On Nov 10, 2017
Godwin Okpara in court again in Lagos for wife battery.

Remember, he was convicted for raping a 13 year old girl under his care. Jailed for 10 years, got out in 3 yearsfor good behavior. He was deported to Nigeria. His wife also went to jail for torturing the same girl.

What a terrible shame!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kakamorufu(m): 8:36am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:


So who is that player that is in "Ighalo mould"?
sir, u are za expert. U know who that shld be. Am just saying what needs to be done.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:05am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:
According to owngoalnigeria, this is the starting line-up released by Rohr after the last training session:

Line Up.

Ikechukwu Ezenwa

Shehu Abdullahi

Ola Aina

Leon Balogun

William Troost-Ekong

Ogehenekaro Etebo

John Ogu

Wilfred Ndidi

Anthony Nwakaeme

Alex Iwobi

Kelechi Iheanacho
No Mike??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:08am On Nov 10, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
No Mike??

If that is accurate, Mikel will start on the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:09am On Nov 10, 2017
Kog45:
Let him be fresh for Argentina match but i want to see Awaziem instead of Ekong just to see what he can do.
Too many changes is not good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:13am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


If that is accurate, Mikel will start on the bench.
Then lets expect a scanty midfield.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:18am On Nov 10, 2017
Icon4s:


That is why we need Mikel in that AM position.
Exactl. That's why Rohr must start Mikel

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:20am On Nov 10, 2017
Kog45:
Patient enough?are they victimized or what do you want to say of Ogu.
Shehu should start while ha can come in later in the match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:26am On Nov 10, 2017
junnyjake:



For Hope, he played under Keshi, after then we've had 3 other managers, and seems they all in common had tactics not really favorable to Hope. One can make that argument.

Would he bench Ndidi, the best tackler in the EPL? Onazi - the workhorse?? or Mikel the general? The fact that you're foreign born shouldn't be enough to keep you in the team, you must offer something special, and I've seen hope in action this season at the carabo cup.

If anichebe withdrew in discontent, it's not our fault that we had to move on. He was very much in the frame of the team then.


Na Aluko own de pain me pass, but seems there is something happening underneath that we're not aware of. Coz, I do that see how anyone would prefer Simon to Aluko.


I know that there might be bribery and corruption going on, but I can't say Rorh is influenced by such with his selection.

Enyeama is better, no doubt about that. That wasn't even my argument. But we were ready to move on after realizing ikeme wasn't that much of a bad choice

Ndidi, Mikel and Onazi are the current backbone of the midfield. Hope simply in comparison is not on thier level. But anybody else I would say he is not necessarily better but able to compete. How good he is we will now never know the opportunity to compete was never given. The way he was dropped unceremoniously from SE after getting injured for them leaves a lot to be desired.

It's not everything I can say but once again influence peddling and politics got in the way leaving bother player completely disgruntled. Not they way he should have been treated.

Sone Aluko was shameless blatant unguarded corruption. No need to go into detail what is dissapointing there are those who were guilty by consent and are still in the NFF.

I am sure you must know that Rohr is not a one man band. Rohr has been in Africa for over a decade he knows how to play our politics. Consider what prior agreements and arrangements were made on the table and underneath it. You are experienced so I don't need to say more.

So it impossible in the context of Nigerian football and the NFF for Rohr not be influenced and or coerced. Furthermore, he can't do everything by himself players will be recommended from above and below. Football is in my experience is about that big word OPPORTUNITY.

Who will get the opportunity.

Finally a sore point for some what do you think of Tega Onomah. Not about the possibility of him coming to the SE but as a player first.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:31am On Nov 10, 2017
Mujtahida:

To show the crassness of the idea that having institionalized modes of engaging these foreign born players cannot in the truest sense affect the development of our league let us take a review of the architecture, the developmental effort and structure that both enterprises would require

Formal engagement of players can require let's say at least two persons in France, England, Germany and Italy (as we are speaking it's possible say somebody fit dey our embassy wey him own na to just sit down, no work per se). Those are the hubs. They must personable, friendly, able to speak the local language need good social media presence, passion and consistency to make their efforts count. Imagine if you identify guys like forgiveness and give them that brief. Omo, let your imagination provide the answer.

Now let's look at what it takes in this era to have a decent league: we need good stadiums in all the states of the federation, we need good roads for travelling, we need good academies fairly spread out throughout the country, we need physiotherapy and medical sports facilities throughout the country, we might even need special courts to handle contractual disputes sharply without delays as is the case with regular courts, we need coaches, we need trainers, we need marketing and business executives to handle the business side of things, we need media executives and PR specialists, we need good network of scouts throughout Nigeria and possibly West Africa, we even need Web managers and social media consultants to maintain the social media presence of our local clubs, we need sponsorship deals and investments worth billions of dollars etc. We are looking at a whole industry with need for a large army of personel in specific areas, structures and systems.

So how does the 2% effort (comparatively speaking. Joebie help ooo, I no sabi maths) required to institutionalise our engagement with players of Nigerian descent born abroad affect the 70% effort required to develop our league? Please I want to be convinced how this is possible.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 9:36am On Nov 10, 2017
There is this story of Brian Idowu joining the Eagles at Russia. Please is this true? Has he finally agreed to play for us?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 9:37am On Nov 10, 2017
tbaba1234:
Just rewatched the Zambian game. Second half mainly.

The gulf in class between Iwobi and Simon is big. If Iwobi can be more consistent for Nigeria, I don't see Simon benching him. Key word, consistency because Iwobi has had some stinkers for Nigeria.

In the midfield, Mikel played the attacking role, Ndidi played the CM midfield role while Agu/Onazi sat in front of the defence. Earlier in the campaign, Rohr experimented with a double pivot system. (Against Algeria, Etebo and Onazi played in front of the defence.) Rohr appears to be willing to change systems depending on the game, that is a good thing.

Mikel Obi is the Choirmaster, Everything good goes through him. The short passes between Mikel, Moses and Iwobi was beautiful to watch.

Mikel Agu has good positional discipline. He might not have been too impressive so far but he keeps his position well.


Bros,where did you find the video of Nigeria vs Zambia ? I think somebody took it down from youtube.

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