petra1:
@GavelSlam

You may modify your post . I was still retyping when you posted . Read the post again I believe it answers you

GavelSlam:

I'll modify when you are done if necessary.

petra1:

I’m done

Deut 14 v 25. then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.

Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.
- Nehemiah 13:12 KJV

And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's : it is holy unto the Lord .
- Leviticus 27:30 KJV

And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the Lord .
- Leviticus 27:32 KJV

When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
- Deuteronomy 26:12 KJV

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
- Malachi 3:10 KJV

Xtianvic:
1. The bible recorded that tithe was not paid with money but farm produce. But your pastors tell you to pay in cash.

2. Only the tribe of Levi was entitled to collect tithe and they had no possession in Israel. But your pastors are not from the tribe of Levi and collect tithe with is punishable by death and have numerous possessions and even fly on private jets.

3. If you read Malachi 3 from verse 6, you will come to realise that he was referring to a NATION which is the country of israel

4. There is an additional 5% penalty for those that didnt pay exact 10%. how many times have you pay it knowing that you are certain of what you 10% is.

5. These pastors took from the law the law of tithing that would fetch money and dropped others like various sacrifices that would not fetch money. They also monetized dedication of children both male and female not regarding the law said the first male child that opened the womb.

6. If read hebrews 7, the chapter talks about tithing, you will see that the writer excluded himself from tithing because there is a change of order.

7. In the new order Christ is the Chief Priest while we all are priest, so no priest pays tithe to another priest.

spongeisback:
Why do you Christians like to make things so complicated for yourselves? Is your god a retard that you've to explain and re-explain what he said? Enough of this tithing bullshît. Your story book made it clear that tithe is meant for food not for church building or whatever you modern scammers use it for but for FOOD!

GavelSlam:
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On what basis should a pastor be receiving tithe when he's a Nigerian?

Is tithing practised in Israel?

If so, please tell us how they go about it.

petra1:


Is tithe given to pastors or God?



You tell us

GavelSlam:

It is given to pastor

plainbibletruth:
1.It is clear that Abraham's tithe was spoils of war which he gave AFTER he was blessed by Melchizedek. Nothing here suggests that it was MANDATORY for him to have done that.

plainbibletruth:

2. The statement by the Pharisee in Luke 18 in CONTEXT was made out of ARROGANCE and reference to tithing income shows how the Pharisees, like many pastors of today, go beyond God's prescriptions to do their own thing. Jesus fought them on many occasions on this point. Using the very same Pharisees that Jesus CONDEMNED to justify monetary tithing is, to say the least, deceitful

petra1
No one says tithes is mandatory . Everything is by your will . What matters is that Tithing is a principle in the kingdom of God just as offering ,prayer ,almsgiving ,fasting are spiritutual principles . You choose to do or not to do . Tithing is not done away with as well as , offering ,prayers ,almsgiving etc

If Abraham could be diligent enough to give tithe even from war how much more from his wealth and earning !!!

petra1:


Under the law money was used for tithes and offerings

Leviticus 27:27
And if it be of an unclean beast, then he shall redeem it according to thine estimation, and shall add a fifth part of it thereto: or if it be not redeemed, then it shall be sold according to thy estimation

Leviticus 27:31
31 And if a man wants to redeem any of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it.

plainbibletruth:

1. If a pastor says a Christian is cursed if he doesn't tithe and you think that does not amount to calling tithing mandatory then something is wrong somewhere.

Whao!!
You mean you see money used as tithes in these passages you quoted?
No wonder!

The CONCLUSION of the matter is this: The Christian is under a NEW COVENANT that is SUPERIOR to ANY COVENANT before it. The modus vivendi and modus operandi of the New Covenant is DIFFERENT from the former systems - pre-law or under the Law. The GAME PLAN for the Christian way of life under the New Covenant is CLEARLY spelt out in the EPISTLES.

GavelSlam:

I have nothing to modify.
I stick to my earlier contribution.

petra1:

The kingdom of God runs on principles . These principles cut across dispensations. Principles such and giving of tithes and offerings are unending . The structures may differ but the principles are constant . Just like other principles such as alms for the poor or Honoring your father and mother ,praying to God , fasting etc. It is wrong to say such are done away with the law.

It was not the origin. We are children of Abraham our father of faith who's faith we follow . The law only reminded people of God of existing kingdom principles.

Tithe and offerings are given to God and it is used for work of service in Gods house also welfare and support of the full time workers in Gods house. Some claim that the church is absolved from such . That's not true.

1Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.?

Some may argue that Paul did live on the church income . Well it's only in Corinth he did that . He had to work to earn a living not because he was not entitled to welfare or support but because of their carnality just like some nairaladers. It's his choice but it's not a bad idea . Besides it's not a big deal . 90% of pastors today work as bankers , oil workers ,busunesmen , lecturers etc and they don't collect a dime for support .you can find out from winners ,redeem,Christ embassy etc . The pastors are volunteers Only few pastors are into full time ministry because of their responsibilities . Some have to resign from lucrative jobs . Like a pastor in CEC . Lanre Alabi who was the highest paid black man in chevron . He let the job go because of ministerial responsibilities . Likewise pastors in other denominations. All these propaganda are sponsored by the enemy of the church ,

1stflight:


I like your post.

Let me tell you this is what happens when all Dick, Tom And Harry claim to be man of God and what to open a church at the slightest opportunity, collect tithe and offering.

petra1:

Is tithe given to pastors? Tithes and offerings are given to God.


You tell us

petra1:

Thank you



Men of God don't collect offerings nor tithes. Ushers do.

Peacefullove:


Mr , why didn't Jesus apostles collect tithes ?

ScepticalPyrrho:
petra1



Going by the above quote, tithes isn't money or cash.

The Bible-era used silver and gold as money. The above quoted verse instructed the jews to exchange tithes for silver(money). This means tithes isn't money!

Tithes was food!!

petra1:


We are not bound by mosaic law. Tithing has been in existence 400 years before the law.



The Jews had three kinds of tithes .only one is the sacred one given to God the other 2 were shared for the poor and shared in love feast .

We are not tithing based on the law We are not under the law

petra1:


We don't know if they did or not .

Peacefullove:


Your Bible said do not go beyond what is written , Is there any record of Apostles collecting tithes ?