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Mynd44:

Can we say it is wrong to call all men potential rapists when we men question what women wear based on assault? We say a woman wears a skimpy top hence she asks for it or tempts the man.

We say why are women outside after a certain hour cos we know it is not safe.......isn't that implying that no woman is safe?

Women wear skimpy dresses to appear sexy but cringe when they are addressed as such, as for me, any woman can wear whatever she pleases, the only reason why I frown against skimpy dresses, is because it makes it easier for sexual harrasment or rape to occur, its easier to uncloth a skimpily dressed person...

Secondly, no one is safe after "certain hours", its a pity, that is the way the world is, as a guy, you may be lynched, robbed, maimed or raped, for the girls, you may be robbed or raped... Saying one shouldn't be out at certain hours is simple preventive measure... Same reason we advice people to lock their homes... Its not a perfect world.

Mynd44:

This is wrong on all levels. Is she responsible for his sexual frustration?

If a man takes off his trousers in public or wears a boxers with solid erection and walk around in public, is it harassment?

Mynd44:

What stops you from starting one about women?

Perfect answer.
I don't know why they do that,
You'll see a topic on how a woman was raped or a woman speaking about rape and instead of everyone to focused on the topic they start whining about how rape is only discussed when it's about a woman but you'll never see them start a topic or discussion of how men are raped.

Nice thread

Mynd44:

True. But the Lagos state domestic violence law of 2017 touches some parts of it.

Look it up

you Said 90% of Rape Cases Have Men As The aggressors. Thats What You Think... Females Harrass men Alot as Well As Rape... Maybe You Have Not Seen Where A Group Of Girls get Hold Of A Guy And Grab His Private And rough Handle His Balls and They Find It Entertainin. The Most Most Common Is when These Female Rapists inject A Guy's dick And Gets It So Hard, that They Would Side Him Turn By Turn For Hours and Make Him Ejaculate over And Over with The Penis still Solid Hard... May Be You Didnt Know That ejaculatin continiously in A Roll Suddenly Becomes Painful and Starts Drainin Blood... You Cant 90% are Male rapists... Women Rapist are Rampant these Days... There Were Cases Of Rape i Had Of Where The Girls Raped the Guys To Death... Out Of 100% rape Cases i Will Give Women 40%

Mynd44:

Desire to keep female friends? How about the desire to protect women? Thought of that?

Applause, again.
Now you see why

tunjilana:
If a man takes off his trousers in public or wears a boxers with solid erection and walk around in public, is it harassment?

Who cares what you wear Oga?

Tozara, how do you see the topic?

DeadRat:
you Said 90% of Rape Cases Have Men As The aggressors. Thats What You Think... Females Harrass men Alot as Well As Rape... Maybe You Have Not Seen Where A Group Of Girls get Hold Of A Guy And Grab His Private And rough Handle His Balls and They Find It Entertainin. The Most Most Common Is when These Female Rapists inject A Guy's dick And Gets It So Hard, that They Would Side Him Turn By Turn For Hours and Make Him Ejaculate over And Over with The Penis still Solid Hard... May Be You Didnt Know That ejaculatin continiously in A Roll Suddenly Becomes Painful and Starts Drainin Blood... You Cant 90% are Male rapists... Women Rapist are Rampant these Days... There Were Cases Of Rape i Had Of Where The Girls Raped the Guys To Death... Out Of 100% rape Cases i Will Give Women 40%

Why is it that it is when you see a topic talking about women you choose to talk about this?

ouigy99:
@OP, based on what you have stated.... Girls are the ones most guilty of the act. You woo a girl, after some weeks of dating and it's time to have sex, that's when she remembers she hasn't paid her school fees, he needs to make her hair, her mother is sick, the following week is her birthday, her phone got spoilt the previous night; as guy man her Don stand and all him brain Don focus on "drilling the well" in front of him, he has no other option than to promise to take care of those things for her, else she will say "I am not in the mood again", leaving the guy blue balled

Ummm, how do you determine that it's time for sex? Not that I'm in support of buying stuff for girls because of sex. But same way she says no to sex, you also can say no to buying her stuff if you feel its becoming a trade. And if the urge is that much you can always tell her and get it somewhere else.

Khayge:
The thread is a good one.
If you want to verify consent, ask your girlfriend when she's in her right senses of she'd like to have sex with you. She'd probably say NO. When she's Hot, ask her the same question.
We as guys of this generation should try as much as possible to put our urges under leash.
For those that have partners, try to understand your partners... Someone said sex is a 2 way thing.. True, most importantly, the lady's satisfaction should be your utmost desire. You can satisfy her even without sex.

The bottom line is, when she's warmed up, Hot and all in the mood, don't trust her judgement. That's where she needs you as the guy to make the right decision to protect her in spite of how high your adrenaline or testosterone is leading.

Are you for real? Are we talking about a full grown woman here or a baby?

Mynd44:
Is there a need to call this "men's corner" or other forms of couch group counselling sessions? Lets just gist and talk.

I mentioned "men's corner" because men are the most likely to rape and more than 90% of rape cases have involved men being the aggressor.

From http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rape,



So basically consent right? But is it all about consent?

Imagine a lady comes to visit you and at 1am, you ask her for sex. She turns you down and you threaten to throw her out knowing well that she has nowhere to go at that time and she is also in danger if she does and because of that, she agrees, is that consent?

No

Imagine the Manager asking one of the receptionists for sex with the receptionist knowing well that she is at risk of losing her job so she agrees. Is that consent?

Your girl visits you, you make those romantic moves but she was not all for it and says no so you "lockup" two hours later, you take her out, buy her drinks and when you are both home, you have sex with her, she probably even took your shirt off for you but is that consent?

He got the girl drunk, not consent.

You are a civil servant and someone wants a file submitted but you tell her to come see you in the photocopy room first, she agrees but is that consent?

We as men need to do better. We need to drop the bullshit and rise about it.

A girl is walking down the road and you and your friends turn it into a chance to make unsavory noises cos you think they are compliments…but isnt that harassment?

Harassment 1001%

You have convinced yourself that women say no but mean yes. Bruh, dont play that game……no does not and will not mean yes. Even silence does not mean yes. Because she is wet is not even mean consent. What's the worst that can happen if you dont have sex when turned on?


Can we discuss this more? Lets be better for our women and maybe the world will be a lil bit better

Cc tozara

As long as the individual agrees, it is consent! The individual traded values for an option. You don't compromise your values because of a threat. Tho, the guys shouting is pure harassment.

Mynd44:

Why is it that it is when you see a topic talking about women you choose to talk about this?

Because the world is full of "topic talking about women", while those about men are ignored.

Mynd44:

Desire to keep female friends? How about the desire to protect women? Thought of that?

Quit whining I see through you. There's no iota of objectivity in your facts' presentation.

majekdom2:
As long as the individual agrees, it is consent! The individual traded values for an option. You don't compromise your values because of a threat. Tho, the guys shouting is pure harassment.

So you are saying consent by coercion is consent?

closerange:


Because the world is full of "topic talking about women", while those about men are ignored.

How many have you created?

Mynd44:

How many have you created?

You would be surprised if I told you...

Mynd44:

Can we say it is wrong to call all men potential rapists when we men question what women wear based on assault? We say a woman wears a skimpy top hence she asks for it or tempts the man.

We say why are women outside after a certain hour cos we know it is not safe.......isn't that implying that no woman is safe?

So you call a man potential rapist because of his opinion?


See lets face reality and not deceive ourselves.


Women in nigeria have to come to terms with the culture is never going to change because how a woman should dress is forever etched into the fabric of our society. Now they shouldn't use the culture as an excuse for the reason why women get raped. That is complete trash...

This rape issue is a delicate issue, and if we are to be honest with ourselves it cuts both ways. That a woman thinks if she dresses provocatively ALL men will not see anything wrong in it is great deceit. Not all men are normal, some peeps have really fuckd up background so to think that everyone will respond to certain things in a uniform acceptable manner is plainly stupid. This is where discretion should come from females and they should conduct themselves in the manner that won't make them prey under certain circumstances and climes. It is the truth of the matter, whether you accept it or not.

Now I do not support rapist irrespective of whatever led to it, they should face the full wrath of the law. The law is in this case our government, you and I know the sort of government we have. The punishment has to be more severe that it will put dread into anyone who contemplates it. Hopefully, we get there.


At the end of the day, it is better safe than sorry.

Daeylar:

Perfect answer.
I don't know why they do that,
You'll see a topic on how a woman was raped or a woman speaking about rape and instead of everyone to focused on the topic they start whining about how rape is only discussed when it's about a woman but you'll never see them start a topic or discussion of how men are raped.

Nice thread

there was a topic brought to nairaland about a man being raped by 3 women,and u women were busy finding it funny and claiming that he enjoyed it

Mynd44:

Why is it that it is when you see a topic talking about women you choose to talk about this?

Oga you Sef don De Monitor Me... I Don Blow Be That o...

Bro. Seriously! Its A Discussion You Raised na... Naturally I Like To Stand For Women When They Are right and Still Abuse Them When They Are Wrong... Its Called "Being Fair Enough" ... I Dont talk Stupid... I Drop My Words As E De Hot...

closerange:
Its funny how every topic about rape or sexual harassment is usually tilted to one side.......
Men are getting sexually assaulted everyday, when I talk about it, they say "woman dey give you free groove, you dey dull"..
Its different standards for both genders...

Please where do that happen? I want to visit.

Mynd44:

So you are saying consent by coercion is consent?

There is no such thing as consent by coersion not if a gun isn't held to your head......

If your boss wants to sleep with you a with your job at stake, you should sue him for sexual harassment, if you choose to sleep with him however, in order to keep your job, you have lost the right to complain... You gave your consent, you simply preferred your job to your dignity... That part isn't a fault on your boss, its a fault in your character....

Mynd44:

Both ways really. Lets just talk

I think we all know wat rape is bt lets define sexual harassment. Its taking a new dimension in the western world and probably for good bt even the so called best men or people out there and celebrities have fallen short in this area and are even seen as predatory. Following past events on this most suspects are already guilty until proven innocent. Its that bad. Some suspects have almost immediately lost public respect due to this outcry from their victims. Do u think the victims are not being fair as sm few people have spoken out in defense of the suspect....What exactly is Sexual harassment.

Mynd44:
Is there a need to call this "men's corner" or other forms of couch group counselling sessions? Lets just gist and talk.

I mentioned "men's corner" because men are the most likely to rape and more than 90% of rape cases have involved men being the aggressor.

From http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rape,



So basically consent right? But is it all about consent?

Imagine a lady comes to visit you and at 1am, you ask her for sex. She turns you down and you threaten to throw her out knowing well that she has nowhere to go at that time and she is also in danger if she does and because of that, she agrees, is that consent?

Imagine the Manager asking one of the receptionists for sex with the receptionist knowing well that she is at risk of losing her job so she agrees. Is that consent?

Your girl visits you, you make those romantic moves but she was not all for it and says no so you "lockup" two hours later, you take her out, buy her drinks and when you are both home, you have sex with her, she probably even took your shirt off for you but is that consent?

You are a civil servant and someone wants a file submitted but you tell her to come see you in the photocopy room first, she agrees but is that consent?

We as men need to do better. We need to drop the bullshit and rise about it.

A girl is walking down the road and you and your friends turn it into a chance to make unsavory noises cos you think they are compliments…but isnt that harassment?

You have convinced yourself that women say no but mean yes. Bruh, dont play that game……no does not and will not mean yes. Even silence does not mean yes. Because she is wet is not even mean consent. What's the worst that can happen if you dont have sex when turned on?


Can we discuss this more? Lets be better for our women and maybe the world will be a lil bit better

Imma just drop this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPMsjphCUU

Mynd44:

Both ways really. Lets just talk

I think we all know wat rape is bt let define sexual harassment. Its taking a new dimension in the western world and probably for good bt even the so called best men or people out there and celebrities have fallen short in this area and are even seen as predatory. Following past events on this most suspect are already guilty until proven innocent. Its that bad. Some suspects have almost immediately lost public respect due to this outcry from their victims. Do u think the victims are not being fair as sm few people have spoken out in defense of the suspect.... if i say i like ur butt to a lady is dat sexual harassment?? ...What exactly is Sexual harassment.

jaxxy:


I think we all know wat rape is

Really?

jaxxy:


I think we all know wat rape is bt let define sexual harassment. Its taking a new dimension in the western world and probably for good bt even the so called best men or people out there and celebrities have fallen short in this area and are even seen as predatory. Following past events on this most suspect are already guilty until proven innocent. Its that bad. Some suspects have almost immediately lost public respect due to this outcry from their victims. Do u think the victims are not being fair as sm few people have spoken out in defense of the suspect.... if i say i like ur butt to a lady is dat sexual harassment?? ...What exactly is Sexual harassment.

Isn't that why we are here? To talk about and define what harrassment is so we can u learn and learn.

I have given some instances in the original post

Oyindidi:
Oga at the top don show
Some men don't care if the lady say no, all they want is to satisfy their sexual urge.

The worst case of rape I've heard of is from a housewife. The husband will command her to go lie down and with tears in her eyes he'll do his thing. She told me last week that she felt like killing him that moment.

She's saying rubbish, is she not his wife? Is it not her duty to consummate her marriage? What's d essence of marriage if couples r not ready to consummate their marriage?

AlfaSeltzer:


Really?

Rape is pretty clear cut. If the person says No its No irrespective of wether its ur wife or gf or uve done the deed b4 and u force ur way it Rape. If u also drug a person to get laid its rape, if u get the person drunk to get laid its pure rape lol. Did i leave anything out?