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Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:09pm On Nov 23, 2017
Maximus82:


Let's use your quote against you. The tithe fed a twelfth of all Israel. The tenth of God fed a twelfth of God. It fed a whole tribe. Your tithe in what ever church does not feed a twelfth of the church. Also note that the salary of those at the top outweighs staff by over 700%.
the tithe fed the only tribe that was callled into full time service of God. All others worked... The tithe in the church today is only used for catering for those who worked full-time and the rest for church expansion... Wen i tithe i honor the High priest of my salvation with my substance and care not how the money is utilized. Wen Eli children were taking the offerings brot to the lord for their personal use the children of Isreal didn't stop tithing or offering. D God who called Eli also judged him
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:09pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
The Torah are the books the jews regarded as inspired words of God. Starting from the books of moses to dat of the last prophet in the old testament (Zachariah).. It is known today as the old testament only that it was rearranged into law, historics, poetic and prophet

You have no idea what the torah was all about.Book of zechariah indeed!!! funny you grin grin grin grin
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:11pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


bros abeg what chapter of the bible did you pick this from?
1cor 9:14
In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:15pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
the tithe fed the only tribe that was callled into full time service of God. All others worked... The tithe in the church today is only used for catering for those who worked full-time and the rest for church expansion... Wen i tithe i honor the High priest of my salvation with my substance and care not how the money is utilized. Wen Eli children were taking the offerings brot to the lord for their personal use the children of Isreal didn't stop tithing or offering. D God who called Eli also judged him

bros abeg park well.Not all levites were priests.There is no Nigerian pastor I know of that is descended from the tribe of levi thus no Nigerian pastor is a levite.Full time ministers are not levites.There is no provision for the levithical priesthood under Christianity.That was why the apostles never practised it.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:15pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


You have no idea what the torah was all about.Book of zechariah indeed!!! funny you grin grin grin grin
well what you don't know is above you
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:17pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
1cor 9:14
In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

How exactly does that make them levites? Did anyone say they should not earn their living from the gospel? Where did it say there are levites and that they should receive tithes?
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:17pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
well what you don't know is above you

Bros the book of zechriah is not among the torah.Please get yourself educated
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:19pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


bros abeg park well.Not all levites were priests.There is no Nigerian pastor I know of that is descended from the tribe of levi thus no Nigerian pastor is a levite.Full time ministers are not levites.There is no provision for the levithical priesthood under Christianity.That was why the apostles never practised it.
Ur intellect mr is the most shallow on this page... I stated clearly that levi is a tribe not a position. The work of this tribe was to minister full-time in the temple of God. Who are those dat minister full time now in the church established by Jesus Christ? Its beyond pastors, there are several employees the church pay monthly
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:21pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


How exactly does that make them levites? Did anyone say they should not earn their living from the gospel? Where did it say there are levites and that they should receive tithes?
am done with you here. Am here to engage intellectually sound believers.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:21pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
the tithe fed the only tribe that was callled into full time service of God. All others worked... The tithe in the church today is only used for catering for those who worked full-time and the rest for church expansion... Wen i tithe i honor the High priest of my salvation with my substance and care not how the money is utilized. Wen Eli children were taking the offerings brot to the lord for their personal use the children of Isreal didn't stop tithing or offering. D God who called Eli also judged him

You aren't tithing to any God as he hasn't asked neither does he demand it of you. You are tithing cos of emotions and also a guilt that has been shoved down your throat over years. I'm telling you that your major teleevangelist who are mentors to your local church pastor class you as fools. How clear can I be?
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:23pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


Bros the book of zechriah is not among the torah.Please get yourself educated
Educate ursef http://www.jewfaq.org/m/torah.htm
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:25pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
am done with you here. Am here to engage intellectually sound believers.

lol intellectually sound indeed.You have failed to make your case because Tithing has no basis under Christianity.Go and tell that your pastor that he is no levite.Chai!!! Some people can be quite funny
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:28pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:

Ur intellect mr is the most shallow on this page... I stated clearly that levi is a tribe not a position. The work of this tribe was to minister full-time in the temple of God. Who are those dat minister full time now in the church established by Jesus Christ? Its beyond pastors, there are several employees the church pay monthly

do those who minister to God today come from the tribe of levi? Do you some of the great prophets even in the OT did not come from the tribe of levi and thus did not receive tithes? Where is it written in the scriptures that pastors are to replace levites and are to receive tithes? Why didn't the apostles practise this strange teaching?
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:28pm On Nov 23, 2017
Maximus82:


You aren't tithing to any God as he hasn't asked neither does he demand it of you. You are tithing cos of emotions and also a guilt that has been shoved down your throat over years. I'm telling you that your major teleevangelist who are mentors to your local church pastor class you as fools. How clear can I be?
U r entitled to ur opinion.. Alot of you are hypocrites nevertheless. The attacks has been on Pentecostal churches cos dey are black skinned like you where as no Pentecostal church collect more money from their congregants like orthodox who even collect tithes and several offerings in a single service. I see u all praising d pope and other of them cos dey are white men and not Nigerians like u... Many av come nd gone but we will still pay our tithes
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:31pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
now that is where most ppl make the mistake. Levites where a people not a position or post. The highest rank in the tribe of levi is the position Aaron occupied. High priest.. There weee also priest and several other levites who worked in the temple. The entire tribe were not to do any other work but works in and around the temple. The tithe was a provision for the entire tribe since they didn't and mustn't engage in any work except the work God asked them to. In the church today Jesus is the High priests, the full-time pastors are the levites. My church in particular encourages pastors to work but there are some positions which cant be combined with any other work and these pastors have families to cater for.. Some of these pastors had very successful careers before they were appointed full-time positions wch dey had to resign. Many pastor still av successful careers and dey avnt been called to full-time service in the House of God.

if u say full time pastors are Levites then, u got it wrong ma. go and read the qualification of a levite very well u will knw that they didn't hav any tin as their own. u just said some full time pastors retired from work, etc. some pastors even hav businesses.
levite dont hav anytin aside working in the house of God. that is why tithe is their inheritance. the dont hav anytin of their own. so tell me hw modern full time pastors are related to Levites
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:31pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


do those who minister to God today come from the tribe of levi? Do you some of the great prophets even in the OT did not come from the tribe of levi and thus did not receive tithes? Where is it written in the scriptures that pastors are to replace levites and are to receive tithes? Why didn't the apostles practise this strange teaching?
i told u already. I tithe to the High priest of my salvation like Abraham did and not to any mortal man.. The tithe the jews paid to the levites, dey did it wit the heart of 'honoring the lord with their substance' not the levite
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:34pm On Nov 23, 2017
lonikit:


if u say full time pastors are Levites then, u got it wrong ma. go and read the qualification of a levite very well u will knw that they didn't hav any tin as their own. u just said some full time pastors retired from work, etc. some pastors even hav businesses.
levite dont hav anytin aside working in the house of God. that is why tithe is their inheritance. the dont hav anytin of their own. so tell me hw modern full time pastors are related to Levites
i told u full time pastors were asked to resign. The church only caters for full time ministers. If you av a business you aren't full time.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:37pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:

U r entitled to ur opinion.. Alot of you are hypocrites nevertheless. The attacks has been on Pentecostal churches cos dey are black skinned like you where as no Pentecostal church collect more money from their congregants like orthodox who even collect tithes and several offerings in a single service. I see u all praising d pope and other of them cos dey are white men and not Nigerians like u... Many av come nd gone but we will still pay our tithes

Maybe because the white people are practising Christianity better than you.They came here and gave us free education,free hospitals etc.Their ministers left the comfort of their home in Europe to spread the faith here while observing austere living .Our brothers today are doing the very reverse of what this people did.Exploiting the people and teaching man-made doctrines claiming there are from God.

Brood of vipers claiming to be men of God
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:39pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
The Torah are the books the jews regarded as inspired words of God. Starting from the books of moses to dat of the last prophet in the old testament (Zachariah).. It is known today as the old testament only that it was rearranged into law, historics, poetic and prophet

if u say Torah contained the law, how come the disciple were using Torah to teach the gospel of grace in Christ Jesus.
besides, Torah were kept in the synagogue. not mobile. so hw were pple on missionary Joni able to carry it along
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:39pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
i told u already. I tithe to the High priest of my salvation like Abraham did and not to any mortal man.. The tithe the jews paid to the levites, dey did it wit the heart of 'honoring the lord with their substance' not the levite

You have not exactly told me where you were asked to pay this tithe.Did you just wake up one morning and decide to be doing this and spreading the practise? The apostles did not practice this. Why should we be doing it now.Do you know more than the apostles?
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:42pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


Maybe because the white people are practising Christianity better than you.They came here and gave us free education,free hospitals etc.Their ministers left the comfort of their home in Europe to spread the faith here while observing austere living .Our brothers today are doing the very reverse of what this people did.Exploiting the people and teaching man-made doctrines claiming there are from God.

Brood of vipers claiming to be men of God
oh ur Christianity is now relative.. Its right for white men to collect tithe but wrong for the black ministers.. U are practicing selective Christianity nd i hope it ends well foe u
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:44pm On Nov 23, 2017
lonikit:


if u say Torah contained the law, how come the disciple were using Torah to teach the gospel of grace in Christ Jesus.
besides, Torah were kept in the synagogue. not mobile. so hw were pple on missionary Joni able to carry it along
why shouldn't dey when their master always quoted from there. During the temptation of Jesus two of the scripture he quoted were from deuteronomy and one from psalm
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:44pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
i told u full time pastors were asked to resign. The church only caters for full time ministers. If you av a business you aren't full time.
was that same with levite qualification?? did they resigned from farming or other tin.

at least some body that resigned from work must hav some entitlement. they have bn recievin salaries bfr resignation. their wives or children may be working. did all these allowed for Levites

be objective in ans my question. no pastor is equivalent to Levite.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:50pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
why shouldn't dey when their master always quoted from there. During the temptation of Jesus two of the scripture he quoted were from deuteronomy and one from psalm

u are even contradicting ursev. using bible to teach in church is diff from quoting from bible for some reasons. Paul was a teacher of law bfr conversion so he knw the law so much. most tym the quoted it to condemn some laws. that is Christ will say " u hav bn told by the prophet that thou shalt... but I say..." same with other apostles. go and read heb u will see where the distinction was made btw the old priest and Christ.

try and learn my sis
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:51pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
oh ur Christianity is now relative.. Its right for white men to collect tithe but wrong for the black ministers.. U are practicing selective Christianity nd i hope it ends well foe u

where did I say it was okay for a white man to collect tithes and wrong for a blackman?
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:52pm On Nov 23, 2017
lonikit:

was that same with levite qualification?? did they resigned from farming or other tin.

at least some body that resigned from work must hav some entitlement. they have bn recievin salaries bfr resignation. their wives or children may be working. did all these allowed for Levites

be objective in ans my question. no pastor is equivalent to Levite.
yeah. D levites were like all the other tribes of Israel till the day God asked moses to separate them Infact moses Aaron and Miriam were all levites.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:55pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:

Educate ursef http://www.jewfaq.org/m/torah.htm

did you even bother reading that link?
It gave you thooks of the Totah as thus

TORAH (The Law):
•Bereishith (In the beginning...) (Genesis)
•Shemoth (The names...) (Exodus)
•Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)
•Bamidbar (In the wilderness...) (Numbers)
•Devarim (The words...) (Deuteronomy)
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:55pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
yeah. D levites were like all the other tribes of Israel till the day God asked moses to separate them Infact moses Aaron and Miriam were all levites.

u mean Levites were working or hav inheritance
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:56pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


where did I say it was okay for a white man to collect tithes and wrong for a blackman?
maybe you didn't read ur last post before posting
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by lonikit: 12:57pm On Nov 23, 2017
PaChukwudi44:


did you even bother reading that link?
It gave you thooks of the Totah as thus

TORAH (The Law):
•Bereishith (In the beginning...) (Genesis)
•Shemoth (The names...) (Exodus)
•Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)
•Bamidbar (In the wilderness...) (Numbers)
•Devarim (The words...) (Deuteronomy)

she doesn't even knw the meaning. her understanding of Levites and pastors proved that she is ignorance of the concept.
half baked Christians everywhere.
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:58pm On Nov 23, 2017
salvation101:
maybe you didn't read ur last post before posting

Reproduced here .Please kindly show me where I said so

Maybe because the white people are practising Christianity better than you.They came here and gave us free education,free hospitals etc.Their ministers left the comfort of their home in Europe to spread the faith here while observing austere living .Our brothers today are doing the very reverse of what this people did.Exploiting the people and teaching man-made doctrines claiming there are from God.

Brood of vipers claiming to be men of God
Re: Jesus Supported Tithing by Nobody: 12:59pm On Nov 23, 2017
lonikit:


u mean Levites were working or hav inheritance
i mean they were working. They too worked under the Egyptians before their exodus so how were dey different before that day dey were separated cos dey chose to stand on the side of the Lord.. Inheritance was shared after God had separated them.

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