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Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Saintinoo(m): 10:28am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:no mind the guy, many of them don't know that Jesus practised Judiasm, |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by openmine(m): 10:30am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:Do U have scriptures to back this claim? How and where did pastors represent levites? Please dont say whats not in the bible? If U have scriptures to prove the highlighted claim,please state them clearly!! All these guesswork must stop!! 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by anonimi: 10:31am On Nov 24, 2017 |
chisco82: What shall you turn into money? You answer from the passage you quoted. Cheers. 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by persinpapa: 10:31am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Broda.. You have no idea of what you are talking about . . Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. . It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income .. If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true.. I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD.. The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray.. Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil.. The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil. 10% is not too much for your creator.. Let GOD be true and every man be lie.. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by GambaOsaka: 10:33am On Nov 24, 2017 |
PointZerom: You will agree with me that CHRISTIANITY started from Antioch and the apostles were the first christians. Did the Apostles receive Tithes? Did Jesus receive Tithes? Please answer in all honesty, no pun intended. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by persinpapa: 10:33am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Gggg102: Broda.. You have no idea of what you are talking about . . Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. . It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income .. If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true.. I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD.. The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray.. Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil.. The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil. 10% is not too much for your creator.. Let GOD be true and every man be lie.. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Lotechi(m): 10:33am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:. Jesus begged his father to forgive those that were killing him and an apostle commanded a person to die because he did not bring everything he sold. ponder on that. secondly, that was not tithe o, it was a communal agreement that everything everybody had will be shared amongst all. A pastor said the only reason they collect offerings is because that is the only way we can prosper. ponder on this and tell me if u think he is saying the truth...... if you want a debate in a bid to establish the truth, just let me know, I will give you my number and call you with my recharge card. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Niyinficient(m): 10:33am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Gggg102: I totally agree with u. But let 'the below view' of mine about tithing also be known. I TITHE with pride, not because my pastor asked me to but because its my conviction to do so. Yes, God doesnt spend money, but i realise, the generator in my church is always on, i dont ever get to sit on a broken or dirty seat, the bulbs, switches, projector, speakers, mic, mixer, piano, keyboard, guitar are always in perfect working condition, the decoration is always looking beautiful.....everything is functional....everything is bright and colorful...always a good environment for spiritual servicing. My pastor doesnt even work, he has family and responsibilities, same as the ministers who are into full time ministry, pple who either called by God or chosen on their part to be of religious service to people of likewise conviction. Again, i read, not told or taught or made to believe, in the bible that i should tithe. So i will tithe. i even observed that the month i tithe, my finances is muah! I am not brainwashed, i am learned and educated, i am a christian and i am not religious. i am in control of myself. I tithe and will continue to tithe... To those who dont believe in tithing, you have committed no crime, because every man's action is based on personal conviction and what he or she deems OK. But dont go about disrespecting, insulting and making those whose religious convictions on tithing are different from yours all in the name of being a social media warrior. By your extreme posts of insults and abuses, you are not different from the likes of ISIS, Al-queda, BokoHaram and co, cos u ar are assaulting and terrorizing pple whose faith and beliefs contradict yours. Shalom. 4 Likes |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Saintinoo(m): 10:34am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Lotechi:so why do your pastors read from passages of the old constitutions in church and also bringing up the laws of tithe that are in the old constitution, you bleeped up by bringing in political terms into God's issue. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by persinpapa: 10:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe: Broda.. You have no idea of what you are talking about . . Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. . It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income .. If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true.. I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD.. The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray.. Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil.. The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil. 10% is not too much for your creator.. Let GOD be true and every man be lie.. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by GambaOsaka: 10:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Lotechi: Please give your own answers and back them up. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Saintinoo(m): 10:35am On Nov 24, 2017 |
miketayo:you mean the 10 commandment? Are not for christains? So i should fornicate, steal, lie, ? |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by anonimi: 10:36am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Saintinoo: ......until He FULFILLED the law, not so Apostle Paul, writing to Jews who understand Judaism, explained the change of priesthood and law clearly below. Hebrews 7 Do you need further explanation again www.nairaland.com/attachments/4160987_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Lotechi(m): 10:36am On Nov 24, 2017 |
persinpapa:. if you love God, you serve and worship him not by giving 10% of ur income....then when you help the poor, then your father in heaven will be pleased.... read your bible so you can know the truth. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Gggg102(m): 10:37am On Nov 24, 2017 |
PointZerom: Verse 17 starts with "not that I seek these gifts" It shows they gave from freewill. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by anonimi: 10:39am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Saintinoo: Why would you do that if you follow the overarching commandment that encompasses the 10- Love your neighbour as yourself? Please explain. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by tsolah247: 10:40am On Nov 24, 2017 |
I quote the verse you highlighted (just Copy and Paste) 10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.[b][/b] My Questions are; 1. Where is the name church mention in the verse? 2. When did church became a community warehouse? 3. Who is entitled to the tithes and for what purpose is today's pastor use it for? 4. Where did Jesus collect tithes in the bible, if you claim to follow him? 5. Is the tithes ment for the pastor or the poor? when your Pastors collect where did they use it and how? You are not only been brainwashed but been fooled because you fail to read what you have in your hand. Jesus rebuke both that pay and collect tithes in the same bible. Jesus said: Woe to you, teachers of law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! you give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of law, justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced thlatter, without neglecting the former. (mathew 23:23) Also said: "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone". (Luke11:42) 2 Likes |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Gggg102(m): 10:40am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Niyinficient: I already posted somewhere in the beginning that I'm not against paying tithe or any form of given what I'm against is compulsion of giving |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by slowie(m): 10:41am On Nov 24, 2017 |
anonimi: I have read Deut 14 you kept on quoting. The point there is that I should eat my tithe. Pastors represent Levites in the Church today. They collect the tithe for the purpose of the house of God not for their personal use. Pastors are suppose to be on allowance or salary in every organized church. The rest is to take care of the needy and less privilege as well as for the expansion of the gospel of Christ. Read the whole of Malachi 3. Like I said you can choose to 'EAT' your tithe as it contained in Deut. 14 or bring to the Church (not the pastor) so that there will be resources in the house of God. |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by PointZerom: 10:47am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Gggg102: When you do what the Bible says you should do, will it be said that you're operating under free will or you are abiding under a principle that's if the pastor should remind you? . |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by slowie(m): 10:48am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Niyinficient: God bless you! Exactly what I have been trying to tell some people that if you are attacking on internet because they don't believe they should not pay tithe, you are not better than book haram and ISIS. These were my exact words. 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by jude2009: 10:48am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan:I don't know why people as so keen on this tithe of a thing. The old covenant or testament was a prefigure to the new law. There were many laws and rituals observed by the Jewish people before the coming of Christ. Now all this rituals and law passed away, for the new and perfect rite to be established. The old covenant demanded offering only 10% of your possession as tithe but the new law demands offering of not just 10% but 100% and ones whole self to the Lord and this is not as a written law but inscribed in the heart of man. This is to be borne out of perfect charity for God and fellow man exemplified by helping the poor and needy around us and contributing to the growth of the Church according to one's capacity. God sees beyond action. He knows the intent of all man 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by hazyfm1: 10:49am On Nov 24, 2017 |
persinpapa: Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest? Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe? Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe? Who told you that church you attend is the house of God? God does not live in a house built by men God lives in you You are God's temple We are Gods temple Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40 ''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................?? ''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me'' My 10cents 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by gpmorgan: 10:50am On Nov 24, 2017 |
The tithe was a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the Levites; Custodian of the tabernacle/temple (Leviticus 27:30-32; Numbers 18:21-28; Deuteronomy 14:22-29) What should Levite do with the tithes: (Nehemiah 10:30-38; 2Chro 31:4-10): The Levite/Priest are to deposit the tenth of the tithe at the store-house of God, (so there must be food at any point in time) for visitors and needy to see something to eat etc. Fallout of Levite non remittance of tenth of Tithe. (Malachi 3:2-10): After a long period of time, it was observed that the children of Israel (part of other 11 tribes) and Judah residing in Judah were no longer paying the commanded tithe and the Levite no longer depositing at the store house of God. Hence, this Malachi 3:4 admonitions. The store house of God has been empty for very long time. New Testament: After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, (Mathew 5:17; Mathew 23:23; Luke 11:42) The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. But we must give cheerfully and with Love. (Luke 6:38, Mark 12:41-45) Christ become the chief Priest and took the function of Levitical Priesthood (but never received nor pay tithe neither did the 12 Apostles.) we are priest too through Jesus Christ (Hebrew 7:2-27; 9:13-17; Ephesians 2:11; 1Peter 2:5,9). The principle in the New Testament is to give voluntarily to support the needs of others (Acts 2:45-47; Romans 15:25-27), support Christian workers (1Corinthians 9:11-14; 1Timothy 5:18; 1Corinthians 16:2), and expand Christian outreach (Philippians 4:15-16). No specific amount is ever commanded, and no percentage is suggested. While a tithe or tenth of one’s finances may be a good standard to use for Christian giving, it is clear the early church did not focus on a specific amount but rather on meeting needs. This sometimes included giving much more than a tenth, as some believers sold homes or land to meet the needs that existed in the church (Acts 4:34-37). In conclusion, it is no longer a law/command to pay one-tenth of our income to the Levite as Jesus Christ has fulfilled the law, there is no curse if one does not pay tithe, and paying of tithe is not a Sin so far you are happy giving it to the lord. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Gggg102(m): 10:53am On Nov 24, 2017 |
PointZerom: I don't understand you fully All I know is that you should give not because someone force you to but you should give because your heart pushes you to. There is nothing wrong if your pastor reminds you but he shouldn't force you. Paul reminded the Christians of the importance of giving but he did not compel them to give 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by openmine(m): 10:56am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Saintinoo:Jesus came to fulfill all the requirements of the law so that U and every christian will be free from the snares and dictates of the law! Galatians 3:21-29;4:4-6 Ephesians 2:11-22 Romans 10:4 Hebrews 9:11-28 These scriptures will give U a platform..... I have a question for U...why did peter and paul question the jews for insisting that the newly converted gentiles submit to the laws of moses? Reference: Acts 15:1-35 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by anonimi: 10:57am On Nov 24, 2017 |
slowie: Today's pastors do NOT in any way represent Levites. I already shared Hebrews 7. Read and digest it properly. In addition, if you actually read Deuteronomy 14, as you claim, you would see that you give the strangers, orphans and widows directly ALONG with the non-property-owning Levites. Read the whole of Malachi 3. I also shared Malachi 1 here. Read and digest it properly. The fraudulently used Malachi 3 is directed at Levites ( who are NOT pastors today) for stealing and misappropriating their own portion of tithes received from Jews as stated in Deuteronomy 14. www.nairaland.com/attachments/3304018_image_jpeg_jpeg6f95b5e7a24ad4fc0808d6698fd37362 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by Saintinoo(m): 10:59am On Nov 24, 2017 |
openmine:what religion did Jesus practices, i think that was what you say before you jumped into my mention |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by hazyfm1: 11:00am On Nov 24, 2017 |
persinpapa: Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest? Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe? Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe? Who told you that church you attend is the house of God? God does not live in a house built by men God lives in you You are God's temple We are Gods temple Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40 ''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................?? ''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me'' My 10cents 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by hazyfm1: 11:01am On Nov 24, 2017 |
hardasan: Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest? Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe? Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe? Who told you that church you attend is the house of God? God does not live in a house built by men God lives in you You are God's temple We are Gods temple Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40 ''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................?? ''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me'' My 10cents 1 Like |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by hazyfm1: 11:01am On Nov 24, 2017 |
Larrey: Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest? Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe? Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe? Who told you that church you attend is the house of God? God does not live in a house built by men God lives in you You are God's temple We are Gods temple Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40 ''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................?? ''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me'' My 10cents 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Paying Your Tithe Is Biblical by beautyoftheLord: 11:02am On Nov 24, 2017 |
OP please go back to Malachai 1, read through again and let it be revealed to you who God was talking to. Read the whole of Malachai for better understanding. 1 Like |
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