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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by nairanaira12: 1:25pm On Nov 26, 2017
OBAGADAFFI:



Well we know what the like of Kumuyi, Adeboye has achieved for the faith.

What has freeze ever done for the faith.
That boy always seek popularity by attacking other.
Them way he attacked a comedian last year that almost cost him his job

This is not a question of whether he has done anything for the church or not.

It is a question of the verity and truthfulness of the doctrines your pastors are preaching.

God won't judge you in heaven by what you did for his church or by the number of miracles you perform on earth. He will judge you by your faithfulness to his Word and commandments.

How many of your pastors are following God's word? How many of them will enter heaven if they should die today?

Daddy freeze challenged them based on the scriptures. Why do they find it difficult to counter his challenges via the scriptures? Maybe it's because their doctrines aren't biblical. Maybe it's because they are teaching you guys errors, heresies, and blasphemies coated in the superfluity of words and big grammars originating from the doctrine of men.

And you too are swallowing it because it sounds sweet and impressive to your hearings. You don't care if what they teach is biblical or not as long as it sounds sweet.

And do you know what God said about your pastors that are teaching you errors for their personal gain? He said it is better that they were not born.... He also said it is better for a grinding stone to be hung around their necks and throw them into the sea to drown.

What you've done for the church doesn't matter. What matters is the truthfulness of your teachings as a pastor.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:



Freeze doesn't preach the Bible, he preaches a mutilated version, or rather, he mutilates the bible.

And you know why Freeze gains large followers? It's explained in the Bible...

"Having itching ears, they gather up teachers unto themselves"...


You know why the pastorprenuers have large followers, it is also written in the Bible

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by merbenko: 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017
Horlufemi:


You are tithing wrongly. At least from the Bible says about tithe.

1. You don't tithe money.
2. If you must tithe money it has to be 30%
3. Tithe is yearly
4.Every three years you give your tithe to the orphans and widows.
Etc
At least in the Bible.
Tithing is law. We are no longer under law.
Tithing is like telling me to make sacrifices. It's mandatory 10%.
Under grace it's about you giving according to what you feel. 0% or 100%. In that giving you give not to get returns. A lot of Christians tithe to get returns on investment. They are playing bet9ja with tithes and offerings. I don't claim to know God but Christians don't know God. If they do they will know that He blesses you without you giving him one Kobo. He is the owner of the universe. God is love. Give to the poor, by doing that you are showing them God's love.

I am born again and I love God. I don't like these pastors because they are against everything God stands for. See I'm not rich but I'm not poor. I rather give my money to the poor than these pastors. Why? Because I am showing them God's love. It's better than the love pastors show them.

I don't claim to hear from God but I know that giving to fellow Christians who are in need is better than giving to a pastor who already has sooo much.

A true Christian doesn't need a Rolls Royce he needs a car. A true Christian doesn't need a private jet. There are alternatives.

I can't change your mind because of the cult like love you have for your G.Hoe (it's not blasphemy. If you feel it's blasphemy, it's a fire sure sign of brain conditioning aka brainwashing wink grin ). Sit down think from the area of love, the love for God. By their fruits you shall know them. (You know the fruits of the spirit)
Nice piece bro
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by babablogger: 1:26pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:



You are yet to prove by any means that paying tithes is wrong, you didn't give any "fact and figure" whatsoever, so what exactly are you saying?

The time you folks use in attacking the church, if spent towards capacity building and self improvement, Nigeria would be a better place!
I never said paying tithe is wrong

But tithes is not limited to the church alone

Read your bible

Levites,widows, orphans

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Mpanyi: 1:27pm On Nov 26, 2017
Thought you had something intelligent to say but I was disappointed. Whenever you people want to talk church thus church that, name the churches or the prayer houses or whatever. You can't lump my church catholic with others. You can't lump anglican and other churches that have been there for ages with the so called churches that started just yesterday, that don't know yet why they came into being at first place.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Originalsly: 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:
It is so painful to realise that a backsliding man who has fallen from the faith and some entirely non-believing wretched sinners are now creating "standards" for the church to discuss or debate
@Op...help me understand.... how do you know Freeze (or any other man) is a backsliding man (moving away from God).. and not a man that is being drawn closer to God? ....and how do you know he has fallen from the faith?... fallen from the faith meaning his faith in God?.... and who are you referring to as the non-believing wretched sinners?...the show time pastors?...or Freeze and those who share his view? and on a personal note...did God take back his word and allow you to pass judgement on people?...or you took that exclusive duty away from God?
You opened your mouth and have a whole lot to say..... can you open it again and clear the air on what you said by answering my few questions? Feel free to dodge them by pretending you didn't read my comment.
When you can't attack the message....attack the messenger. Feel free to.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by pek(m): 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2017
Very wrong premise. Daddy Freeze is not and will never be the problem of Christianity! Every Christian needs the Bible as his guide. Unfortunately, Christians will rather tell you my pastor said. Pathetic.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by generaliy: 1:30pm On Nov 26, 2017
chloedogie:


Boss did you study in offa? Kwara state? Or FUTA?

FUTA, why ask?
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by bidahjay: 1:31pm On Nov 26, 2017
Daddy Freeze has scored more points than all of you together, he states the Bible reference for all the points raised, you guys are attacking him , with insults, emotion and abuse without countering his argument with the Bible chapters and verses. God can use anything to start a revival, is not in your place to judge Daddy Freeze, let God do the judging. If you cannot show me in the Bible where Jesus or the early apostles received tithe, then don't tell me about it,because i am not under the Jewish law.

Even in today's Israel, tithing has been abolished because the Levitical tribe that collect tithe is one of the lost tribes of Israel. If we must pay tithe according the law of Moses, then we must keep the Sabbath holy and fulfill all other requirements of the law. Jesus has fulfill the requirements of the law, and every giving must be by love and as a man purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of a necessity.... go and look for the meaning of these words by Apostle Paul.

I stand with Daddy Freeze, proof me wrong with the Bible.

Good bless you and happy Sunday!

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 1:31pm On Nov 26, 2017
An2elect2:
What have mr Kumuyi and Adeboye done for the faith except destroy it?


LOL,
They single handedly brought poeple out from the Occultism and sinfully lifestyle.

Kumuyi is a known preacher of holiness and
Adeboye is know for his holy spirit massages.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Afonjanightmare(m): 1:32pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:


I would have given you a response but your moniker gave you away as an irredeemable bigot with absolutely no traces of modern civility, run along kid!

Look at the fool with traces of civility, you think you would just type trash against someone I cherish so much in Christianity and go Scot free? Daddy freeze is a Yoruba man so forget about bigotry and jingoism, we are all Christians but few of us intricately understand the word of God, because someone condemned Tithing and offerings with enough proof and evidence you are attacking him but praising criminals who tell you that if you don't pay tithe you would die (Oyedepo 1:36).

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2017
He realized he's been told lies all his life, just like all of us and decided to be smart again.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by successinlife: 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2017
Take it or leave it,Freeze is a biased fellow.Nigeria is having challenges in all facets of life,religion,administration,sports,development and all.I am not in a situation to judge him or the churches on tithes.My problem with Freeze is that he thinks he is superior because of his mixed race.I listened to him once saying that he pitied Nigeria basketball team after the 2012 Olympics because of the record created with the team by USA team,on another ocassion he talks about the development in Romania as compared to Nigeria.
I know Romanian history more than Freeze,They have not qualified or played in any basketball world cup or in olympics since their existence
,cote a cote in football considering our unseriousness,bad administration etc,with due respect Romania is never in the same rank in the world of sports,any of the sport at all.Is it not the Romanian gypsies chased away by every country in Europe seeking survival?they are so backward that they prefer building make shifts buildings inside the bush and never go to school.His arrogance was part of why basket mouth blast him saying he is light because of eczema and he is not a white guy.Another gypsy in Ghana is causing similar uproar,to the extent of showing his manhood on public television programme just to proove he doesn't wear underwear.Whatever is making him to fight or argue on tithe is not my problem.The issue i have with him is that he should respect african insitution and fight for it's growth and not sabotage where he is getting his daily bread,is he even known in Romania?this is why i respect most of the half casts that wear Naija colours,they could have turned the country down because of lack of proper machinery but they look at the positive side of things and decide to contribute their quote to the development of their father land.

If Freeze were to be Bob Marley,he would have attached himself to the side of his oyinbo father and jettisoned fighting the course of the black men,rather Bob Marley saw the injustice and stood for the mother black race in him. Freeze should stop his unguided utterances and count himself lucky to be among us.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Abudu2000(m): 1:34pm On Nov 26, 2017
WomanOfRace:
I never use to pay attention to Daddy Freeze but recently that changed.

He is not against christianity...but the dubious acts of so called selfish pastors and the brainwashed members.

I stand with him on tithing.

I rather buy things, come to the Church give with to the needy than pastors that will take my money to build his personal empire and gucci shoes.

If we are to go very deep in this starting from the Genesis.. you will be shocked who the bible said to ..." this Commandment is to you, all you priests. ....let me just stop here.

Read your bible, understand the words there and follow it not the twisted, sugar coated words of most pastors they use to their own advantage.

As a Christian Christ should be your role model not pastor.

Freeze still beating them 10-0.

the pastors are even begging him not to spoil business, have you watched the video one said "if we are broke we can't preach" grin I nearly died of laughter. Look any one still defending these fraudsters is eih their family or on the payroll. No sane sheeple will watch that video and still pay tithe unless something spiritual is involved....

Or should we talk about the one who wanted to rearrange the Bible grin grin

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by kense88: 1:35pm On Nov 26, 2017
Originalsly:

@Op...help me understand.... how do you know Freeze (or any other man) is a backsliding man (moving away from God).. and not a man that is being drawn closer to God? ....and how do you know he has fallen from the faith?... fallen from the faith meaning his faith in God?.... and who are you referring to as the non-believing wretched sinners?...the show time pastors?...or Freeze and those who share his view? and on a personal note...did God take back his word and allow you to pass judgement on people?...or you took that exclusive duty away from God?
You opened your mouth and have a whole lot to say..... can you open it again and clear the air on what you said by answering my few questions? Feel free to dodge them by pretending you didn't read my comment.
When you can't attack the message....attack the messenger. Feel free to.
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by OBAGADAFFI: 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2017
nairanaira12:


This is not a question of whether he has done anything for the church or not.

It is a question of the verity and truthfulness of the doctrines your pastors are preaching.

God won't judge you in heaven by what you did for his church or by the number of miracles you perform on earth. He will judge you by your faithfulness to his Word and commandments.

How many of your pastors are following God's word? How many of them will enter heaven if they should die today?

Daddy freeze challenged them based on the scriptures. Why do they find it difficult to counter his challenges via the scriptures? Maybe it's because their doctrines aren't biblical. Maybe it's because they are teaching you guys errors, heresies, and blasphemies coated in the superfluity of words and big grammars originating from the doctrine of men.

And you too are swallowing it because it sounds sweet and impressive to your hearings. You don't care if what they teach is biblical or not as long as it sounds sweet.

And do you know what God said about your pastors that are teaching you errors for their personal gain? He said it is better that they were not born.... He also said it is better for a grinding stone to be hung around their necks and throw them into the sea to drown.

What you've done for the church doesn't matter. What matters is the truthfulness of your teachings as a pastor.

It's part of God's commandments to preach the gospel and grow the Church.

The church herself was built by Jesus Christ.

You cannot tell A Holiness Preacher like W.F. Kumuyi is preaching false doctrines, while freeze who spend all his life in show biz is preaching the truth.

Anyone can qoute the Bible to justify thier stand.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Horlufemi(m): 1:40pm On Nov 26, 2017
chloedogie:


There is no how you can claim being born again and you call the general overseer "G.HOE". You won't even address your boss in the office like that. You contradict yourself. Those are fathers. Calling someone's father a hoe says all about you.

Oh yes judge me. I'm a filthy sinner.

I don't have boss. I am the boss wink
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Pataricatering(f): 1:41pm On Nov 26, 2017
Daddy freeze has provided biblical backing for everything he preaches yet every man of god that has spoken on this issue has based their arguments on sentiments and conjecture same as the op is doing . You are simply proving yourself averse to your bible and innovating based on the whims of men of God who have now become your gods! You are lost .

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Pataricatering(f): 1:43pm On Nov 26, 2017
Anyone can quote the Bible Yet your so-called men of God have not been able to come up with scriptural backing for their voracious appetite for tithes?
OBAGADAFFI:


It's part of God's commandments to preach the gospel and grow the Church.

The church herself was built by Jesus Christ.

You cannot tell A Holiness Preacher like W.F. Kumuyi is preaching false doctrines, while freeze who spend all his life in show biz is preaching the truth.

Anyone can qoute the Bible to justify thier stand.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Nobody: 1:43pm On Nov 26, 2017
This op must be one of those that worship man instead of God.

Gullible christians have fallen prey to dubious pastors.
How many imams and alfas have private jets and higher institutions?

Op format your brain and reason well abeg.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Jethrolite(m): 1:45pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:


Gullible sheep?

You need to calm down and seek God yourself, I won't argue with you.
Who paid you to write that rubbish up there. People like you better be careful how you handle daddyfreeze because you will create hate towards the church and God. How do you know Daddy Freeze is backsliding? Enlightenment has come and I advise you step aside rather than try to oppose. If those appointed to do the work have failed, God will pick whoever He pleases to get things right.

You guys are always quick to judge the man because he has a failed marriage. David and Solomon did far worse than daddyfreeze but David is the man after God's heart. If David and Solomon lived today, people like you will still oppose and judge them.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by obailala(m): 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:



Freeze doesn't preach the Bible, he preaches a mutilated version, or rather, he mutilates the bible.

And you know why Freeze gains large followers? It's explained in the Bible...

"Having itching ears, they gather up teachers unto themselves"...
Freeze might not be a Christian, but you certainly deceive yourself if you claim that what he preaches isn't directly from the bible.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by beautyoftheLord: 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2017
OP can you do an extensive research on tithing! I mean read the whole of Malachai and not just 3 v 9- 10. Then all other books in the bible on tithing. And also old Jewish (Isreal) history. Go back and study. We are Christians not Jews. We are followers of Christ.. Christians are redeemed from the curse of the law. Christ hung to set you free. No more blood of animals for atonement of sins(aaronic law). The truth is 10% is too small to give back to God. When you give your life to God your all is his. Your 100%. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit He shows you how to spend God's money. People are happy cause they feel they no longer have to tithe. In reality the whole earnings belong to Him now plus you. The Holy Spirit is far from men now. Sad! But I think the church is undergoing a revolution. A new revival! Who is the Greatest in the kingdom of God. The servant of all. Do you think our pastors today are the Greatest in the kingdom of God?

PS: your write-up was good.
The things of the spirit are foolish to the carnal mind.
Hard truth is churches worshipping God in Spirit and in truth will stand tall without tithes. The "rest"will fall. Let the revolution begin.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by An2elect2(f): 1:47pm On Nov 26, 2017
OBAGADAFFI:


LOL,
They single handedly brought poeple out from the Occultism and sinfully lifestyle.

Kumuyi is a known preacher of holiness and
Adeboye is know for his holy spirit massages.
Your first statement is ridiculous but how would you know? The fact is no man can do any of that. No man can bring anyone out of occultism or sinful lifestyle except Christ through His death on the cross and by His will.

Kumuyi is reverred for preaching morality. Holiness is different from morality. You cant preach holiness without the finished work of Christ on the cross. Holiness is one of the fruits of the gospel of the cross and not a distinctive message anyone was called to preach. We are to preach Christ that defines everything not "holiness"

What kind of holyspirit does he preach about that has no respect for biblical truths, Adeboye? There are so many spirits and false christs.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by nairanaira12: 1:48pm On Nov 26, 2017
OBAGADAFFI:


It's part of God's commandments to preach the gospel and grow the Church.

The church herself was built by Jesus Christ.

You cannot tell A Holiness Preacher like W.F. Kumuyi is preaching false doctrines, while freeze who spend all his life in show biz is preaching the truth.

Anyone can qoute the Bible to justify thier stand.

It is either you are a half-baked Christian, a new comer Christian or you are just arguing blindly.

So because daddy freeze is in showbiz, your pastors are holier than him? Your comment is stupid to say the list.

Grow the church all you want, preach righteousness all you want, you will still go to hell fire if you add any ungodly doctrine, no matter how little.

Pastor adeboye made an analogy sometimes ago. He said adding just a drop of urine to a tank of pure water has rendered that water completely impure. You must be some unserious Christian if you expect me to explain the meaning of that to you.
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by papiwyte(m): 1:49pm On Nov 26, 2017
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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Ishilove: 1:51pm On Nov 26, 2017
justseyi:


beautiful, beautiful piece of truth! God bless you

I concur. Generaliy wrote a very fantastic article on this freeze issue
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by orisa37: 1:51pm On Nov 26, 2017
The Lord is not confused. He instructs His Apostles The way they should go and directs them sovereignly.
Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by InvertedHammer: 1:52pm On Nov 26, 2017
From the beginning of time, the Bible talked about false prophets. Because they are ignorant, gullible and naive, christians in Nigeria act like they never read those parts of the Bible not even when some acclaimed men of God are caught pursuing mundane materials, raping children, fornicating, engaging in adultery and idolatory, and other vices. The biggest threat to christianity is the stupidity of Nigerian christians popularly known as the sheepies. Most of them are not in it for grace or salvation. They are in it for the pursuit of wealth and break from the bondage of poverty as deceived by fraudulent pastorpreneurs.

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Re: Is Daddy Freeze The Problem With Nigerian Christianity? by Zivaharry(m): 1:52pm On Nov 26, 2017
generaliy:


Gullible sheep?

You need to calm down and seek God yourself, I won't argue with you.
u already arguing

Edited: I wonder why y'all are tagging this post to tithing as if that's the only thing freeze has condemned the church on, I can see lots of unbelievers jumping on a post that seeks to address issues affecting Christianity, it's not surprising because it's an age where attacks against the church has been made popular.

The attacks on this post however does not stop the lessons from being learnt by those primarily concerned, the church.

The Church is built already, a million gates of hell can NEVER prevail against it!

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