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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 7:07pm On Nov 27, 2017
Victor Moses and Jnr Ajayi makes the 10 man cut
#APOTY

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:09pm On Nov 27, 2017
forgiveness:




Is the @bolded the explanation? Did it answer my question?
If not, answer my question.

I already stated a run. A run is a couple of games as a striker. I also told you the coach used tried, which to me sounded as giving him chances towards the end of the game. Which I do not consider as a run.

I hope the coach gives Onyekuru a shot at it. Meaning allow him to play as a nine from the starting line-up. Not just one game.

You clearly saw the part I stated that it is mostly towards the end of the game. You just want to drag an already made point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:12pm On Nov 27, 2017
The Anderlecht coach gave the other striker a run of games and the striker did not deliver. I believe the critiques are asking for him to give Onyekuru the chance (run of games) believing he would do better. It is unfair for the coach to write off Onyekuru with Limited opportunity.

Give him his run and let us compare if the result will not be better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 7:17pm On Nov 27, 2017
Forgiveness vs thegoodjoe.

This is a potential 4page argument

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 7:32pm On Nov 27, 2017
Genot rohr, asisat oshoala and the Nigerian national team nominated for CAF awards

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:40pm On Nov 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I already stated a run. A run is a couple of games as a striker. I also told you the coach used tried, which to me sounded as giving him chances towards the end of the game. Which I do not consider as a run.

I hope the coach gives Onyekuru a shot at it. Meaning allow him to play as a nine from the starting line-up. Not just one game.

You clearly saw the part I stated that it is mostly towards the end of the game. You just want to drag an already made point.


How do you know the coach didn't start him in that striker role?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:41pm On Nov 27, 2017
I'm starting to like the this Anderletch manager. If only Jay Jay Okocha had this kind of coach in his formative years, he'd have been on the Zinedine Zidane level.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:46pm On Nov 27, 2017
Published: November 27, 2017

Anderlecht Coach Still Unhappy With Henry : His Dribbles Are Negative

Anderlecht manager Hein Vanhaezebrouck is unhappy with the contribution of Nigeria international Henry Onyekuru in the last two games in the Belgian First Division A, saying his dribbles were negative over the course of ninety minutes.

The Everton loanee is Anderlecht's top scorer in the league with seven goals from fifteen appearances.

''Henry has to stop thinking that he’s only about his goals... The sum of his dribbles must be positive after 90 minutes. Not negative, as now,'' Vanhaezebrouck stated, according to nieuwsblad.be.

''Especially if he has so much space and as little opposition as against Kortrijk, he should avoid simple ball losses.

''Yes, last week against Mouscron he scored the winning goal, but I expect more from him.''

Onyekuru has notched eight goals in all competitions for the Belgian champions, but only three were scored in front of the club's fans at the Stade Constant Vanden Stock in Brussels.

Anderlecht will host Uche Agbo's Standard Liege in the Cup on Wednesday.

Igho Kingsley

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25604

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:50pm On Nov 27, 2017
CAF Awards : Super Eagles, Rohr Shortlisted For National Team, Coach Of The Year

Published: November 27, 2017

CAF Awards : Super Eagles, Rohr Shortlisted For National Team, Coach Of The Year
The Confederation of African Football (CAF), have announced the nominees for the other categories of the CAF Awards 2017.

The categories include Women’s Player of the Year, National Team of the Year (Men & Women), Youth Player of the Year, Coach of the Year, Club of the Year and Referee of the Year.

The Super Eagles have been nominated for the National Team of the Year, along with Cameroon, Egypt, Zambia U20 and Mali U17, while Nigeria Women's U20 team, the Falconets, are in the running for Women’s National Team of the Year.

The Nigerian National Team, coached by German Gernot Rohr, were the first African country to qualify for next summer's football festival in Russia with a game to spare after beating Zambia on match day five.

And their coach has also been recognized for the achievement as he is in the running for Coach of the Year.

Former Arsenal and Liverpool striker Asisat Oshoala will be hoping to defend her African Women's Footballer of the Year crown, she has been nominated once again along with Chrestina Kgatlana (South Africa), Gabrielle Aboudi Onguene (Cameroon), Rutendo Makore (Zimbabwe) and Tabitha Chawinga (Malawi).

The Awards Gala will take place on Thursday, 4 January 2018 in Accra, Ghana.

Nominees ( Other Categories)

Women’s Player of the Year

Asisat Oshoala (Nigeria & Dalian Quanjian)
Chrestina Kgatlana (South Africa & UWC Ladies)
Gabrielle Aboudi Onguene(Cameroon & Rossyanka)
Rutendo Makore (Zimbabwe & Black Rhinos)
Tabitha Chawinga (Malawi & Kvarnsvedens)

Women’s National Team of the Year

Ghana U-20
Kenya
Nigeria U-20
South Africa
Zimbabwe

Coach of the Year

Gernot Rohr (Nigeria)
Hector Cuper (Egypt)
Hugo Broos (Cameroon)
L'Hussein Amoutta (Wydad Athletic Club)
Mihayo Kazembe (TP Mazembe)

National Team of the Year

Cameroon
Egypt
Mali U-17
Nigeria
Zambia U-20

Club of the Year

Al Ahly
Mbabane Swallows
SuperSport United
TP Mazembe
Wydad Athletic Club

Youth Player of the Year

Eric Ayiah (Ghana & Charity Stars)
Krepin Diatta (Senegal &Sarpsborg)
Luther Singh (South Africa & Braga)
Patson Daka (Zambia & Liefering)
Salam Giddou (Mali & Guidars)

Referee of the Year

Bamlak Tessema (Ethiopia)
Ghead Grisha (Egypt)
Janny Sikazwe (Zambia)
Malang Diedhiou (Senegal)
Mehdi Abid Charef (Algeria)
Papa Bakary Gassama (Gambia)

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25607

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:01pm On Nov 27, 2017
goldfish80:
I'm starting to like the this Anderletch manager. If only Jay Jay Okocha had this kind of coach in his formative years, he'd have been on the Zinedine Zidane level.
He's using the "tough love" approach on Onyekuru. It could work or it could damage his confidence.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Nov 27, 2017
forgiveness:



How do you know the coach didn't start him in that striker role?

I already said it clearly that the coach said he TRIED Onyekuru. That to me does not equate to a run. If you disagree, make your point. You are taking me on circles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:02pm On Nov 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


It was total football but no one till Guardiola was doing it. So saying Michels did it does not change the point that during Guardiola's time it was strange. I believed it could work in the Modern game, not 1974. Guardiola proved it right.

Sorry but this statement reeks of ignorance to me. Your idol Guardiola didn't start total football. That's a sad denial of the great work of Johann Cruyff(the Idea wasn't original to Cruyff too but he was it's greatest exponent). Did you read what I posted earlier? Cruyff was the one who took total football to Barcelona during his time there as a coach. It's strange to you because you are ignorant. Guardiola merely reworked an existing football philosophy which perhaps was not as popular as it once was. If Davido remixes Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' for example by reworking the beats and making it faster an indomie generation child would now come up and say that it is strange music. Just like lots of people don't know that it was ABBA the Swedish musical group that sang the popular song 'I had a dream' and not Westlife who only remixed it and brought it forward for indomie generation to enjoy. Same thing Guardiola did with total football.

Here's from Cruyff's Wikipedia page:At Barça, Cruyff brought in players such as Pep Guardiola, José Mari Bakero, Txiki Begiristain, Andoni Goikoetxea, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, Romário, Gheorghe Hagi and Hristo Stoichkov.

Considered to be one of the most influential figures in football history,[15][16][17] Cruyff's style of play and his football philosophy has influenced managers and players, including the likes of Arrigo Sacchi, Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger, Pep Guardiola, Frank Rijkaard, Michael Laudrup, Eric Cantona and Xavi.[18] Ajax and Barcelona are among the clubs that have developed youth academies based on Cruyff's coaching methods.
By the way, I was playing with the idea before Guardiola pulled it off. That is my point. Not Rinus Michels.
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Sorry Bro. You working too late to claim novelty for total football. You were toying with an idea that is almost a hundred years old. There's nothing new under the sun. An idea that's been pulled off before Guardiola kicked his first ball.
Here's Wikipedia entry for Johann Cruyff
The legacy that Cruyff gave Barcelona, however, was about more than just trophies and records, as he gave Barça a winning mentality and footballing identity/ideology that runs through the club till this day. As Barcelona manager, he laid systematic foundations for a prominent school of football: "Barçajax school" or "Barça-Ajax school", as it has been termed by many. The predominant style of play, now known as tiki-taka or tiqui-taca, had been transferred and improved from Ajax to Barça. It was that which has sustained Barcelona since the days of Vic Buckingham, Rinus Michels and Cruyff (as player) in the early 1970s: they were the ideas of Ajax; Total Football, a predominant belief in possession-oriented football with an attack-minded 3–4–3/4–3–3 team formation, rooted in a high offside line, pressing and the interchange of players on the field. When Cruyff became Barcelona’s manager in 1988, he reinforced this footballing philosophy.[67]

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:03pm On Nov 27, 2017
forgiveness:
Published: November 27, 2017

Anderlecht Coach Still Unhappy With Henry : His Dribbles Are Negative

Anderlecht manager Hein Vanhaezebrouck is unhappy with the contribution of Nigeria international Henry Onyekuru in the last two games in the Belgian First Division A, saying his dribbles were negative over the course of ninety minutes.

The Everton loanee is Anderlecht's top scorer in the league with seven goals from fifteen appearances.

''Henry has to stop thinking that he’s only about his goals... The sum of his dribbles must be positive after 90 minutes. Not negative, as now,'' Vanhaezebrouck stated, according to nieuwsblad.be.

''Especially if he has so much space and as little opposition as against Kortrijk, he should avoid simple ball losses.

''Yes, last week against Mouscron he scored the winning goal, but I expect more from him.''

Onyekuru has notched eight goals in all competitions for the Belgian champions, but only three were scored in front of the club's fans at the Stade Constant Vanden Stock in Brussels.

Anderlecht will host Uche Agbo's Standard Liege in the Cup on Wednesday.

Igho Kingsley

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25604
Reminds me of how Mou was with Benzema in his early days...I just hope it doesn't backfire. Not every player takes this sort of approach well...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:06pm On Nov 27, 2017
Mujtahida:

Sorry but this statement reeks of colossal ignorance. Your idol Guardiola didn't start total football. That's a sad denial of the great work of Johann Cruyff(the Idea wasn't original to Cruyff too but he was it's greatest exponent). Did you read what I posted earlier? Cruyff was the one who took total football to Barcelona during his time there as a coach. It's strange to you because you are ignorant. Guardiola merely reworked an existing football philosophy which perhaps was not as popular as it once was. If Davido remixes Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' for example by reworking the beats and making it and you aster an indomie generation child would now come up and say that it is strange music. Just like lots of people don't know that it was ABBA the Swedish musical group that sang the popular song 'I had a dream' and not Westlife who only remixed it. Here's from Cruyff's Wikipedia page:At Barça, Cruyff brought in players such as Pep Guardiola, José Mari Bakero, Txiki Begiristain, Andoni Goikoetxea, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, Romário, Gheorghe Hagi and Hristo Stoichkov.

Considered to be one of the most influential figures in football history,[15][16][17] Cruyff's style of play and his football philosophy has influenced managers and players, including the likes of Arrigo Sacchi, Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger, Pep Guardiola, Frank Rijkaard, Michael Laudrup, Eric Cantona and Xavi.[18] Ajax and Barcelona are among the clubs that have developed youth academies based on Cruyff's coaching methods.

Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Sorry Bro. You working too late to claim novelty for total football. You were toying with an idea that is almost a hundred years old. There's nothing new under the sun. An idea that's been pulled off before Guardiola kicked his first ball.
Here's Wikipedia entry for Johann Cruyff
oThe legacy that Cruyff gave Barcelona, however, was about more than just trophies and records, as he gave Barça a winning mentality and footballing identity/ideology that runs through the club till this day. As Barcelona manager, he laid systematic foundations for a prominent school of football: "Barçajax school" or "Barça-Ajax school", as it has been termed by many. The predominant style of play, now known as tiki-taka or tiqui-taca, had been transferred and improved from Ajax to Barça. It was that which has sustained Barcelona since the days of Vic Buckingham, Rinus Michels and Cruyff (as player) in the early 1970s: they were the ideas of Ajax; Total Football, a predominant belief in possession-oriented football with an attack-minded 3–4–3/4–3–3 team formation, rooted in a high offside line, pressing and the interchange of players on the field. When Cruyff became Barcelona’s manager in 1988, he reinforced this footballing philosophy.[67]

Go and get your bullet proof and shield and armour ready mate!!!!!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:07pm On Nov 27, 2017
Mujtahida:

Sorry but this statement reeks of colossal ignorance. Your idol Guardiola didn't start total football. That's a sad denial of the great work of Johann Cruyff(the Idea wasn't original to Cruyff too but he was it's greatest exponent). Did you read what I posted earlier? Cruyff was the one who took total football to Barcelona during his time there as a coach. It's strange to you because you are ignorant. Guardiola merely reworked an existing football philosophy which perhaps was not as popular as it once was. If Davido remixes Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' for example by reworking the beats and making it and you aster an indomie generation child would now come up and say that it is strange music. Just like lots of people don't know that it was ABBA the Swedish musical group that sang the popular song 'I had a dream' and not Westlife who only remixed it. Here's from Cruyff's Wikipedia page:At Barça, Cruyff brought in players such as Pep Guardiola, José Mari Bakero, Txiki Begiristain, Andoni Goikoetxea, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, Romário, Gheorghe Hagi and Hristo Stoichkov.

Considered to be one of the most influential figures in football history,[15][16][17] Cruyff's style of play and his football philosophy has influenced managers and players, including the likes of Arrigo Sacchi, Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger, Pep Guardiola, Frank Rijkaard, Michael Laudrup, Eric Cantona and Xavi.[18] Ajax and Barcelona are among the clubs that have developed youth academies based on Cruyff's coaching methods.

Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Sorry Bro. You working too late to claim novelty for total football. You were toying with an idea that is almost a hundred years old. There's nothing new under the sun. An idea that's been pulled off before Guardiola kicked his first ball.
Here's Wikipedia entry for Johann Cruyff
oThe legacy that Cruyff gave Barcelona, however, was about more than just trophies and records, as he gave Barça a winning mentality and footballing identity/ideology that runs through the club till this day. As Barcelona manager, he laid systematic foundations for a prominent school of football: "Barçajax school" or "Barça-Ajax school", as it has been termed by many. The predominant style of play, now known as tiki-taka or tiqui-taca, had been transferred and improved from Ajax to Barça. It was that which has sustained Barcelona since the days of Vic Buckingham, Rinus Michels and Cruyff (as player) in the early 1970s: they were the ideas of Ajax; Total Football, a predominant belief in possession-oriented football with an attack-minded 3–4–3/4–3–3 team formation, rooted in a high offside line, pressing and the interchange of players on the field. When Cruyff became Barcelona’s manager in 1988, he reinforced this footballing philosophy.[67]

Are you trying to teach me about total football? I do not understand. You are talking I am ignorant. Of what I beg you.

I said, Guardiola was brilliant and creative to take bold steps to apply such methods and even advance it to suit the modern day game and you say I am ignorant, quoting wiki article.

Make your point and stop the long story.

Guardiola was amazingly genius to bring the approach to suit the modern day era. Made inventions never seen before. Saying because Michels did it in the past does not change Guardiola's genius if you like it or not.

Quit the long story and make your point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Abusule007: 8:09pm On Nov 27, 2017
femianski:
Genot rohr, asisat oshoala and the Nigerian national team nominated for CAF awards
I just saw it too on twitter

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12pm On Nov 27, 2017
Mujtahida:

Sorry but this statement reeks of colossal ignorance. Your idol Guardiola didn't start total football. That's a sad denial of the great work of Johann Cruyff(the Idea wasn't original to Cruyff too but he was it's greatest exponent). Did you read what I posted earlier? Cruyff was the one who took total football to Barcelona during his time there as a coach. It's strange to you because you are ignorant. Guardiola merely reworked an existing football philosophy which perhaps was not as popular as it once was. If Davido remixes Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' for example by reworking the beats and making it and you aster an indomie generation child would now come up and say that it is strange music. Just like lots of people don't know that it was ABBA the Swedish musical group that sang the popular song 'I had a dream' and not Westlife who only remixed it and brought it forward for indomie generation to enjoy. Same thing Guardiola did with total football.

Here's from Cruyff's Wikipedia page:At Barça, Cruyff brought in players such as Pep Guardiola, José Mari Bakero, Txiki Begiristain, Andoni Goikoetxea, Ronald Koeman, Michael Laudrup, Romário, Gheorghe Hagi and Hristo Stoichkov.

Considered to be one of the most influential figures in football history,[15][16][17] Cruyff's style of play and his football philosophy has influenced managers and players, including the likes of Arrigo Sacchi, Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger, Pep Guardiola, Frank Rijkaard, Michael Laudrup, Eric Cantona and Xavi.[18] Ajax and Barcelona are among the clubs that have developed youth academies based on Cruyff's coaching methods.

Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Sorry Bro. You working too late to claim novelty for total football. You were toying with an idea that is almost a hundred years old. There's nothing new under the sun. An idea that's been pulled off before Guardiola kicked his first ball.
Here's Wikipedia entry for Johann Cruyff
The legacy that Cruyff gave Barcelona, however, was about more than just trophies and records, as he gave Barça a winning mentality and footballing identity/ideology that runs through the club till this day. As Barcelona manager, he laid systematic foundations for a prominent school of football: "Barçajax school" or "Barça-Ajax school", as it has been termed by many. The predominant style of play, now known as tiki-taka or tiqui-taca, had been transferred and improved from Ajax to Barça. It was that which has sustained Barcelona since the days of Vic Buckingham, Rinus Michels and Cruyff (as player) in the early 1970s: they were the ideas of Ajax; Total Football, a predominant belief in possession-oriented football with an attack-minded 3–4–3/4–3–3 team formation, rooted in a high offside line, pressing and the interchange of players on the field. When Cruyff became Barcelona’s manager in 1988, he reinforced this footballing philosophy.[67]

In Nigeria here, we had coach Monday Sinclair playing a similar brand to total football years before Guardiola became Coach of Barcelona. Guardiola even went to Arsenal to learn Arsene Wenger's art of the passing. So how the hell will I give Guardiola credit for the passing game.

I am praising his intention. Even my love of wingers playing as strikers came from Arsene Wenger playing Thierry Henry in the striking role. From the lanky winger at Monaco to a lethal hitman. One of the best in the game.

I am praising Guardiola's invention. Not giving him credit for total football. Even in 1958, Hungary was playing a brilliant heavy possession style game similar to total football. You are reading and quoting wiki and shouting ignorance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:15pm On Nov 27, 2017
I don't think you really understood what I was saying.
I'm saying Rohr is looking for a back up for Ighalo. Should we decide to play our usual 4-2-3-1 formation as our best bet at any point in time, and Ighalo is injured or something, having that back up player will prove crucial. Granted, some of us may argue that the likes of Iheanacho can play as the arrowhead in attack. But I don't think Rohr feels so.

Mujtahida:

So you suggesting we play such a tactics as we used against the Argies even when we have the full compliment of our players not just as a shoo in because of the unavailability of personnel to play our normal formation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 8:16pm On Nov 27, 2017
forgiveness:
Published: November 27, 2017

Anderlecht Coach Still Unhappy With Henry : His Dribbles Are Negative

Anderlecht manager Hein Vanhaezebrouck is unhappy with the contribution of Nigeria international Henry Onyekuru in the last two games in the Belgian First Division A, saying his dribbles were negative over the course of ninety minutes.

The Everton loanee is Anderlecht's top scorer in the league with seven goals from fifteen appearances.

''Henry has to stop thinking that he’s only about his goals... The sum of his dribbles must be positive after 90 minutes. Not negative, as now,'' Vanhaezebrouck stated, according to nieuwsblad.be.

''Especially if he has so much space and as little opposition as against Kortrijk, he should avoid simple ball losses.

''Yes, last week against Mouscron he scored the winning goal, but I expect more from him.''

Onyekuru has notched eight goals in all competitions for the Belgian champions, but only three were scored in front of the club's fans at the Stade Constant Vanden Stock in Brussels.

Anderlecht will host Uche Agbo's Standard Liege in the Cup on Wednesday.

Igho Kingsley

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25604

Na wao for this coach oo, if this guy is playing badly why put him on for 90mins??, am thinking this man wants to stop henry from leaving in january making everton think he is not what they need.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:17pm On Nov 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Are you trying to teach me about total football? I do not understand. You are talking I am ignorance. Of what I beg you.

I said, Guardiola was brilliant and creative to take bold steps to apply such methods and even advance it to suit the modern day game and you say I am ignorant, quoting wiki article.

Make your point and stop the long story.

Guardiola was amazingly genius to bring the approach to suit the modern day era. Made inventions never seen before. Saying because Michels did it in the past does not change Guardiola's genius if you like it or not.

Quit the long story and make your point.
Here we go again- arguing about words. My point is Guardiola did not invent anything. He remixed an existing idea just like musicians regularly do with songs. I said you are ignorant of total football and it's history because you said what Guardiola dis was strange. How strange? For bringing forward to our era an idea that is almost a hundred years old makes it strange?
I agree he's a genius. I agree that he brought it into the modern game but not so modern as such cos Cruyff did it as early back as the late 80's and early 90's in a Barcelona team of which Guardiola was a part of.
That's my point. Total football has a history which did not begin with Guardiola even though he takes credit for bringing it forward to our time thus continuing the legacies of those who are his footballing ancestors so to speak.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:20pm On Nov 27, 2017
That coach na wa.. he should wait till January, then he won't have to complain anymore. lol

forgiveness:
Published: November 27, 2017

Anderlecht Coach Still Unhappy With Henry : His Dribbles Are Negative

Anderlecht manager Hein Vanhaezebrouck is unhappy with the contribution of Nigeria international Henry Onyekuru in the last two games in the Belgian First Division A, saying his dribbles were negative over the course of ninety minutes.

The Everton loanee is Anderlecht's top scorer in the league with seven goals from fifteen appearances.

''Henry has to stop thinking that he’s only about his goals... The sum of his dribbles must be positive after 90 minutes. Not negative, as now,'' Vanhaezebrouck stated, according to nieuwsblad.be.

''Especially if he has so much space and as little opposition as against Kortrijk, he should avoid simple ball losses.

''Yes, last week against Mouscron he scored the winning goal, but I expect more from him.''

Onyekuru has notched eight goals in all competitions for the Belgian champions, but only three were scored in front of the club's fans at the Stade Constant Vanden Stock in Brussels.

Anderlecht will host Uche Agbo's Standard Liege in the Cup on Wednesday.

Igho Kingsley

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25604

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:21pm On Nov 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe, you and Pep sef.. make e no enter idolatry oh grin

Mujtahida:

Here we go again- arguing about words. My point is Guardiola did not invent anything. He remixed an existing idea just like musicians regularly do with songs. I said you are ignorant of total football and it's history because you said what Guardiola dis was strange. How strange? For bringing forward to our era an idea that is almost a hundred years old makes it strange?
I agree he's a genius. I agree that he brought it into the modern game but not so modern as such cos Cruyff did it as early back as the late 80's and early 90's in a Barcelona team of which Guardiola was a part of.
That's my point. Total football has a history which did not begin with Guardiola even though he takes credit for bringing it forward to our time thus continuing the legacies of those who are his footballing ancestors so to speak.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:24pm On Nov 27, 2017
The coach must be racist, for real. The way he keeps picking on Onyekuru's game reminds me of my former coach! Onyekuru is not playing by himself .... he's playing with ten other guys! Does the coach overanalyze all the other players the same way he tends to overanalyze Henry Onyekuru??

Inequitable treatment .... a trademark of racism. And I should know because I have been there!



O pari

forgiveness:
Published: November 27, 2017

Anderlecht Coach Still Unhappy With Henry : His Dribbles Are Negative

Anderlecht manager Hein Vanhaezebrouck is unhappy with the contribution of Nigeria international Henry Onyekuru in the last two games in the Belgian First Division A, saying his dribbles were negative over the course of ninety minutes.

The Everton loanee is Anderlecht's top scorer in the league with seven goals from fifteen appearances.

''Henry has to stop thinking that he’s only about his goals... The sum of his dribbles must be positive after 90 minutes. Not negative, as now,'' Vanhaezebrouck stated, according to nieuwsblad.be.

''Especially if he has so much space and as little opposition as against Kortrijk, he should avoid simple ball losses.

''Yes, last week against Mouscron he scored the winning goal, but I expect more from him.''

Onyekuru has notched eight goals in all competitions for the Belgian champions, but only three were scored in front of the club's fans at the Stade Constant Vanden Stock in Brussels.

Anderlecht will host Uche Agbo's Standard Liege in the Cup on Wednesday.

Igho Kingsley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:27pm On Nov 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


In Nigeria here, we had coach Monday Sinclair playing a similar brand to total football years before Guardiola became Coach of Barcelona. Guardiola even went to Arsenal to learn Arsene Wenger's art of the passing. So how the hell will I give Guardiola credit for the passing game.

I am praising his intention. Even my love of wingers playing as strikers came from Arsene Wenger playing Thierry Henry in the striking role. From the lanky winger at Monaco to a lethal hitman. One of the best in the game.

I am praising Guardiola's invention. Not giving him credit for total football. Even in 1958, Hungary was playing a brilliant heavy possession style game similar to total football. You are reading and quoting wiki and shouting ignorance.
Aight Bro. Sorry for that word. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what Guardiola invented. Cos I feel he reworked - not invented - a philosophy of football as the Wikipedia entry clearly says Cruyff's style was called tiki taka in Spain. Once again sorry for the use of that word.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:30pm On Nov 27, 2017
Joebie:
I don't think you really understood what I was saying.
I'm saying Rohr is looking for a back up for Ighalo. Should we decide to play our usual 4-2-3-1 formation as our best bet at any point in time, and Ighalo is injured or something, having that back up player will prove crucial. Granted, some of us may argue that the likes of Iheanacho can play as the arrowhead in attack. But I don't think Rohr feels so.

Okay I understand you now. But would you love for us to try out the 3-5-2 even with the regulars in the team? Did it look like Rohr used it against Argentina as a makeshift because the regulars were injured or it was deliberate?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30pm On Nov 27, 2017
Mujtahida:

Here we go again- arguing about words. My point is Guardiola did not invent anything. He remixed an existing idea just like musicians regularly do with songs. I said you are ignorant of total football and it's history because you said what Guardiola dis was strange. How strange? For bringing forward to our era an idea that is almost a hundred years old makes it strange?
I agree he's a genius. I agree that he brought it into the modern game but not so modern as such cos Cruyff did it as early back as the late 80's and early 90's in a Barcelona team of which Guardiola was a part of.
That's my point. Total football has a history which did not begin with Guardiola even though he takes credit for bringing it forward to our time thus continuing the legacies of those who are his footballing ancestors so to speak.


Please in later years, from Rijkaard, Wenger, Ferguson, etc, how many of them had their full backs drifting into midfield to play as defensive midfielders during games?

I debated this years ago and people were arguing. It was not a normal occurrence. I even went as far as highlighting Belletti a d Owen Hargreaves having the ability to play such roles. I believe others could do it.

It is now we are seeing such movement.

We were not talking of the free 8's and false full backs until Guardiola.

Guardiola is studying the old, recreating their styles and creating inventions of the modern game. That does not make him the inventor of the total football but does not make him less of an inventor.

Do you think it is not invention moving the team to a point where all the players including the central forward to the Keeper play as midfielders. It is invention.

Let me give you a tip you will not find easily online, if you will find at all.

The back pass to the keeper and the keeper picking it up was a normal thing in the past. Arrigo Sacchi made it an art of retaining possession and used it to reck teams.

Later the back pass to keeper where the keeper could pick it up with his hands was cancelled. It diminished the power of the back passes to keeper to keep possession.

Guardiola has now made it an art for a goalkeeper to use his legs regularly and be part of the play. He used his creativity to bring back the invention of Arrigo Sacchi. Making the keeper an essential ingredient of the possession-heavy style of play.

That does not mean I am writing off the impact of Arrigo Sacchi or Arrigo Sacchi's work make Guardiola less of a genius.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36pm On Nov 27, 2017
Icon79:
The coach must be racist, for real. The way he keeps picking on Onyekuru's game reminds me of my former coach! Onyekuru is not playing by himself .... he's playing with ten other guys! Does the coach overanalyze all the other players the same way he tends to overanalyze Henry Onyekuru??

Inequitable treatment .... a trademark of racism. And I should know because I have been there!



O pari


We might be reading his motive wrongly. The coach might also be interested in improving Onyekuru to the best of his knowledge and there are things he wants Onyekuru to cut before he gives him the nine role.

Maybe he sees a bright future in Onyekuru and wants to play a part in Onyekuru's development.

Keep in mind, Sir Alex Ferguson cut out lots of dribbling from CR7 and made him a more direct player. This in turn helped CR7 develop into one of the World's greatest players.

Let us give the coach time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:37pm On Nov 27, 2017
I don't think the players that were missing necessitated a change in formation. We had players who could play as wingers. We did not miss Echiejile. The only notable name was Ighalo who is the truest 9. That had nothing to do with us switching to a back 3.

The change was tactical, not due to a lack in personnel to prosecute the 4-2-3-1 formation.

Mujtahida:

Okay I understand you now. But would you love for us to try out the 3-5-2 even with the regulars in the team? Did it look like Rohr used it against Argentina as a makeshift because the regulars were injured or it was deliberate?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:41pm On Nov 27, 2017
Mujtahida:

You are right in your analysis. Ighalo is our 9 for now but Rohr is still looking for backups. I read on Completesportsnigeria.com that Rohr is looking for backups for Mikel, Ighalo and Echiejile.

We really need a Left footed player as a back-up for Echiejile, if not as a replacement.

Taking Aina or Idowu to WC with the intention of playing them as LB's will limit our progress in the WC.

But we can try Ebuehi since Toyin said he can play comfortably as a left-back, the same way he did against Argentina.If he(Ebuehi) fails to impress as a LB, we should get J.Torunarigha.If not ,our LB will become our weak link since Aina is not that good as a LB and Idowu does not defend and join or link up with the attack like Ebuehi does.He only edges Aina in terms of positioning as seen against Argentina.

But, can he defend and link up with the attack,No No No.

Modified:Aina is more attack minded which resulted to the second goal we conceded, while Idowu focuses mainly on defending which puts us at a disadvantage because the best way to defend has always been to attack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 8:42pm On Nov 27, 2017
As long as he's putting the other players under the same ringer and not just picking on Henry. Judge him by his fellow players and not by the almighty.

Like I stated, during my time, I could score 2 goals but if we lose our coach would ask me why I didn't score 3. To hear him talk about my game, you'd think that it's me versus the other team. And I am seeing a semblance of the same attitude from Henry Onyekuru's coach, based on some of these stories we're reading.


O pari

TheGoodJoe:


We might be reading his motive wrongly. The coach might also be interested in improving Onyekuru to the best of his knowledge and there are things he wants Onyekuru to cut before he gives him the nine role.

Maybe he sees a bright future in Onyekuru and wants to play a part in Onyekuru's development.

Keep in mind, Sir Alex Ferguson cut out lots of dribbling from CR7 and made him a more direct player. This in turn helped CR7 develop into one of the World's greatest players.

Let us give the coach time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44pm On Nov 27, 2017
Joebie:
TheGoodJoe, you and Pep sef.. make e no enter idolatry oh grin

It is not like that. I just like good football. I like Amunike, Siasia, the Dutch man who worked with Siasia in 2005, Rijkaard (problem is that he can not discipline players), Ancelotti, Manuel Pellegrini (learned to much from him and expected Leicester City to break the bank for him), Arsene Wenger (genius but too stingy), Bosz (fear for him at Dortmund because he is a genius and I feel with time Dortmund will excel) and many more. Not just Guardiola. I am getting to like Sarri of Napoli (too brilliant)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:47pm On Nov 27, 2017
ok o good.

TheGoodJoe:


It is not like that. I just like good football. I like Amunike, Siasia, the Dutch man who worked with Siasia in 2005, Rijkaard (problem is that he can not discipline players), Ancelotti, Manuel Pellegrini (learned to much from him and expected Leicester City to break the bank for him), Arsene Wenger (genius but too stingy), Bosz (fear for him at Dortmund because he is a genius and I feel with time Dortmund will excel) and many more. Not just Guardiola. I am getting to like Sarri of Napoli (too brilliant)

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