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Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 5:44pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Again there is no Ile Ife empire never has been and never will be. There is only Oyo Empire that was built by Oranyiyan the father of Ajaka and Sango the first two Alaafins because Oranyiyan is not considered an Alaafin by some due to the fact he returned to Ile Ife to be buried. The Staff of Oranyiyan is a monument in Ile Ife that symbolizes they can call upon his warrior spirit anytime they need him. Oranyiyan was a giant, he was like Idi Amin, he was darkskin, stood over 7 feet tall, so did most of his sons and warriors around him. The Alaafin is the imperial majesty over all Yorubas, only the Alaafin has ruled over the largest segment of Yorubas, all at sometimes, most at others and now less because of the fall of Oyo. Did you know there was no palace in Ile Ife until his Imperial Majesty, Oba Adeyemi I the first built one there? This is the grand father of the current Alaafin, His Imperial Majesty Oba Adeyemi III who is the living Sango. Sango is Nigeria's greatest King and Africa's most popular ancient king who worshiped in 42 countries as a deity of fire. Everywhere in Diaspora the Ooni of Ile Ife goes is where Sango has been because Sango is the foundation of all Yoruba Diaspora slave traditions. Sango was the only tradition that was kept by enslaved Yorubas because Sango is a war god and they saw him bringing victory over their enemies. Sango is also an empire builder and expander which isn't a trait of the Ooni. The Ooni is a chief custodian of culture and spirituality. A Yoruba would typically go to Ile Ife to see the origin of Oyo. Oyo emerged out of Ile Ife because of Oranyiyan not the Ooni. A Yoruba would go to Ile Ife for healing and pilgrimage. That's the role of the Ooni. The role of the Alaafin is supreme Oba of all Yorubas. Ase Love Sango 1 Share
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Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by nobaga: 11:54pm On Nov 21, 2017 |
Very interesting thread I must say. You all played your parts well. Point of correction or note: 1. There are more than seven Ife - Professor Wande Abimbola: the seven sites of Ife mentioned by Ifa are Ife Oodaye, the first and possibly the original one, Ife Nleere, Ife Ooyelagbomoro, Ife Wara, Otu Ife, Ife Oore and Ife Oojo. External threats made Ife moved to the present location. The fact that they brought their archaeological history dating back before the present Ife with them, does not mean Ife remained on the same site. Prof. Ade Obayemi also made this point. 2. Oduduwa was well known before Islam and Christianity or Jesus and Mohamed. If he was actually the rival of Obatala, Yoruba that is closer to the origin of man is older than Middle East. Omo-Awolowo does not mean you are the son of Awo. Omo-Oduduwa does not mean Okanbi or even Oranmiyan was the direct son of Oduduwa. Oduduwa could not have lived for centuries! 3. Omo-Igbo was right in comparing Ooni with the Pope and Alafin with the Emperor or all the Kings protecting Ooni. Alafin jealously prospected the cradle of Yoruba civilization and culture. Ooni has no Army but Oranmiyan. 4. Iwo Eleru where Yoruba artifacts were discovered is more than 10,000 B.C. Ife could have passed through it during relocation 5. Nigerians must stop relating to Egypt and Israel as their ancestors. It unscientific since the birth of man is in Africa, it is degrading because you want to claim people that made something out of themselves as if you have no history. 6. Rely on mythical history because they are trying to tell you something but only if and if they are supported by scientific evidence. Otherwise you will become a laughing stock. The story of Adam and Eve is the greatest joke of all, yet Christians and Muslims believe it as gospel truth. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 12:25am On Nov 22, 2017 |
nobaga: 1. There is a secret Ile Ife site yes, but no one discloses it. The Human race more then likely begin in the Rwenzori Mountain ranges and spread out from there. When Oduduwa came he was himself was over 7 feet tall and was of the Bachwezi of the Nile. The Bachwezi were giants because of their royal blood and they were born of supernatural powers. The Ibimanuka’s royal lineage is rooted in the Rwandan story of the fall to Earth of his ancestor, Muntu, the King of Heaven’s son. As the first human, he became the people’s first father and first ruler as he gloriously created Mankind and founded “The Descents’” dynasty. His spirit lives on through the Ibimanuka, who holds his authority not as a single king, but as the representation of the creation of life.[i][/i] This fall is from the Sky which is a solid object where Almighty Obatala descended upon the Earth dimension. Oduduwa was a warrior and so was his grandson Oranyiyan. The Igbo people who they came in contact with were an old branch of Africans who lived in the forest. Upon seeing these Giants Africans and their great natural powers they all were awestruck. Oduduwa had the staff of Queen Sheba, as she is called by Bible scholars, but she is Bilikisu Sungbo, the bloodline of Isis, the Queen Mother of the Bachwezi, the official ruler of Kush. Bilikisu Sungbo was over 7 feet tall and it is said she could fly. Many royal families had super powers and could fly! This is how Obatala came down from the sky along with other Irunmole. In East Africa there are spells that they do to help them fly. Many witches still use this spell and it was greatly used in Ancient times. The Alaafin is the supreme ruler. Sango is the King of the Earth if you understand the Yoruba Tree of Life. Orunmila is the highest Irunmole of light, Orunmila is wisdom, second to Olodumare, then comes the creator of the Orishas and human beings, Almighty Obatala the sky god. Then after Obatala comes Sango who is the Sun and king of the Earth. Then Ogun who is Geb/the Earth. The Ooni is a sacred chief who is entrusted by the bloodline of Oduduwa to represent them as the custodian. The Ooni is special because he is chosen by the Gods. But the Ooni is not Sango. Sango is the ruler of all Yoruba people. Sango is your highest ruling Oba on Earth. Ase Love Sango About the Bachwezi: http://undergroundriseup..com/2017/04/bunyoro-kitara-empire-of-light-bachwezi.html |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by MayorofLagos(m): 3:36pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
Cyojunior: So if Ooni already said this in bold, then why are you wasting your time with an unproductive essay on who is supreme between the two? |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 10:31pm On Nov 23, 2017 |
MayorofLagos: Because he loathes history being distorted. And I hate any that are going against Baba Sango. Yoruba people are indebted to the royal family of Oyo for giving you the richest culture in West Africa. The Oyo family is the direct line of Oduduwa. Oranyiyan appointed the Ooni as chief of the town and heritage keeper of Yoruba people. This because the Ooni is chosen by the Gods to be a sacred white chief. There is only one Ooni so its not a low position. Long live the Ooni. May the Gods bring Yoruba people closer in unity in these changing times. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 7:20pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
KingSango:Mr man, your lies is unequalled. Oranmiyan didn't only appoint oonis but even made all of them as Eunuch. Nonsense post. You better go to ILE IFE and learn about ILE IFE history. Continue your ignorance and base your info on Samuel Ajayi crowther's Oyo history at your own peril. All these online cum paper and wiki learners. So pathetic at this distortion. 2 Likes |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 9:59pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Olu317: You are not challenging what I posted because you admit the Ooni is appointed. To be appointed means there exists a higher authority to appoint the Ooni, which would be Oranmiyan the baba of the Alaafin Sango. I understand the clash between Oyo and Ife. Oyo is Islamic and Ife is Christian, neither religion belong in the picture. When are yall going to become fearless and claim Ifa as your official religion the way Benin Republic does with Vodoun? Baba Sango allow his wives to pray in the front row and people got upset. Without the Yoruba woman there is no civilization. Baba Sango has said the two faiths have long worn out their welcome. Corruption everywhere because of Islam and Christianity which is fueling this nonsense about who is the true ruler of all Yorubas. The Alaafin is the official ruler of Oyo Empire and there is no Ile Ife empire its just a town. Long live both the Alaafin of Oyo and the Ooni of Ile Ife. Ase Love Sango 1 Like |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 10:37pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
KingSango:Didnt challenge your post? I mocked you because you read from afar. And you seek only what you wished existed which is not true. Oranmiyan ruled ILE IFE. So get your facts right. Obadio family are the ones that keeps the shrine of Odu'a. All Ooni are descendants of Odu'a apart from Osangangan (Obamakin). You are not too conversant with Yoruba history like I had mentioned but based your storyline on Samuel Ajayi Crowther epic tale. Otun is in present day Ekiti , the Oore of otun is the one that was part of the entourage that buried Odu'a and he remain the only one that announces the death of all Ooni. So go ask these people and stop distortion. ILE IFE, was not meant to become an empire because it was the spiritual home from where the present day Yoruba settled down before new migration. Oranmiyan founded oyo and he was the first Alaafin as you claimed. In fact the is no controversies over such and he was the fifth or sixth Ooni of IFE. His descendant was, Ooni Lajamisan ,whose descendants rules ILE IFE and till today,they are still in charge .. And who told you many Oonis weren't warriors or spiritual sound before being made Ooni ? Go to ILE IFE, and , you will find many stories to nullify your view. 1 Like |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 11:03pm On Nov 24, 2017 |
Olu317: The Alaafin is king of kings and is over all Yoruba Obas including the Ooni. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Femolacaster(m): 7:24am On Nov 25, 2017 |
Yeye dey smell....... a clown claiming superiority of his Oba over other Obas in a "collapsed empire" in Yorubaland.......Ooni claiming that he wasn't in superiority Battle with any oba just demonstrate his height of maturity ( and doesn't translate to accepting that any stool is greater than Ooni stool in Yorubaland). The problem I have with these 'oyonized' historians is that they always equate Samuel Johnsons account to Yoruba account in lieu of being called Oyo account. 1 Like |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 1:09pm On Nov 25, 2017 |
Femolacaster: Oya state is the pace setter state of the 36 states. Sango through his wife Olori Sango is head of the fearsome Ogboni. Mr. Ganyi Adams is the Baloogun of the army of Oyo Empire appointed by the Alaafin. The town of Kuso the high priest of Sango is head of a town full of Sango warlords. The Alaafin shares the chairman seat with two other heads of Nigerian empires, neither one is the Ooni, in fact they will not bow to the Ooni because of lineage. But truthfully everyone respects Baba Sango as the official head. Sango isn't just Nigeria's greatest king and West Africa's but greatest in all of African history. Sango is the most worship king in Diaspora and is the sole reason people in Diaspora know Yoruba traditions and know of the Ooni. When you speak of the Ooni, you speak of him as if the Ooni is Oduduwa. Just because he resides over the town of Ile Ife. Oduduwa stood over 7 feet tall, he was a warrior, Oduduwa and his warriors conquered Ile Ife. And you think I got that from Sam too? You funny. The Ooni is not a warrior and has never lead warriors into battle. The Ooni wasn't of the maternal side of African royalty because the Ooni maternal line was a concubine of, his mother was not prior royalty, Oduduwa, she was divined to be a sacrifice but was discovered to be with child. The child was chosen by the Gods to be the Ooni. The Ooni was a final solution to a crisis, who would preserve the sacred town of Ile Ife while the true sons of Oduduwa went forward to build each his own kingdom. Oranmiyan was exceptional he was the greatest warrior among his brothers, he forged them all into an empire centered around Oyo City. It was Oranmiyan's son Sango who made Oyo expand and he is the paternal ancestor of all Alaafins. Oyotunji, means, "OYO RISES AGAIN". You sir, need to work on your faith as an Yoruba. Get off your knees worshiping that White Jesus. The Ooni is a sacred priest in all white and Sango is a bloody red Emperor. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Femolacaster(m): 1:35pm On Nov 25, 2017 |
KingSango:I am not supposed to reply you, but just for clearity on my views, You are entitled to any storyline you believe, .....still, all what you have put up is still the summary of my claim that you people always believe that everybody must agree with Oyo version of Yoruba history.....any history contrary to what you put above is null and void......... continue loving your Sango oooooooo.........in the figment of your imagination, u believe that your collapsed Oyo empire still exist? I am sure that your Sango has woken up to reality........ even your Oba knows that his boundary doesn't exceed Oyo town. You even claimed that Oba Adeyemi I built the first palace for Ife? I can't just laugh at how your ilks are making mockery of Yoruba history everyday. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 6:33pm On Nov 25, 2017 |
Femolacaster: I'm not teaching Oyo history alone but West African history even so far as African history. You are a Christian and you have not denied my allegations that you are one. Get off your knees praying to that demon White Jesus Christ and then and only then will you come back to your senses. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 10:59am On Nov 30, 2017 |
..ile-ife is the cradle of Yoruba civilization without ile-ife no oranmiyan without oranmiya no Oyo as an empire ..Oranmiyan the warrior was ife man like all his warriors then they started their military expedition from ile-ife they moved north to annexed and conquer the north borgus and the nupes under their control from ile-ife ..Oyo empire was just a symbol of ile -ife Power ..Oranmiyan was buried and immortalize in ile-ife to commemorate his achievement and died as an oni too.. when oyo fell most Oyo people came back home to ile-ife That is the mother land of all yoruba 1 Like |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 12:47pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
Obalufon: Now you are proving my point more clever than you will ever know. ![]() You are saying Ile Ife is the mother, that is what I am saying. The Lioness. That implies that Oyo is the father, the head king, the Lion, the Oba over other Obas, the Alaafin, who is owner of the palace. And the palace of the Alaafin extends beyond its wall. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 6:50pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
KingSango:You are not conversant with facts or better still, economical with it. Oyo was a very great empire but didn't control all part of Yoruba land. Oyo was controlled and subjected by the chiefs at some point in time unlike Oooni. Alaafin, can be told to commit suicide but Ooni is the Supreme king in Yoruba land. This position was so important to Oranmiyan that he had no choice but to come back and rule. No, Ooni has ever committed suicide. So get your facts right. Alaafin that was initiated into IFA cult by ADO EKITI. You are funny bro because you don't know much. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 6:52pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
KingSango:You are not conversant with facts or better still, economical with it. Oyo was a very great empire but didn't control all part of Yoruba land. Oyo was controlled and subjected by the chiefs at some point in time unlike Oooni. Alaafin, can be told to commit suicide but Ooni is the Supreme king in Yoruba land. This position was so important to Oranmiyan that he had no choice but to come back and rule. No, Ooni has ever committed suicide. So get your facts right. Alaafin that was initiated into IFA cult by ADO EKITI. You are funny bro because you don't know much. ![]() KingSango:You are not conversant with facts or better still, economical with it. Oyo was a very great empire but didn't control all part of Yoruba land. Oyo was controlled and subjected by the chiefs at some point in time unlike Oooni. Alaafin, can be told to commit suicide but Ooni is the Supreme king in Yoruba land. This position was so important to Oranmiyan that he had no choice but to come back and rule. No, Ooni has ever committed suicide. So get your facts right. Alaafin that was initiated into IFA cult by ADO EKITI. You are funny bro because you don't know much. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 8:41pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
Olu317: Nonsense. The tradition of kings going to sleep isn't limited to Yoruba Obas. And the Ooni is not an Oba. The Ooni is a chief. The notion of the Ooni being king is totally a modern thing. As someone said before the original Ooni was a Eunuch meaning that is some castrated who is employed in a powerful position but not a threat to the real rulers, which would be the sons of Oduduwa, who were the Obas of the Kingdoms of Oyo Empire. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 6:00am On Dec 01, 2017 |
KingSango:Nonsense?Do you know the difference between Chief and king? Can a chief command the respect of a whole ethnic groups even in diaspora? Can a chief be the one who determines who wear beaded crowns in Yoruba land ? You don't have comprehensive knowledge of Yoruba history. I only pity you because you have been brainwashed by Samuel Ajayi crowther's book called “Yoruba in the earliest times to the beginning of British protectorate ". I pity your type who don't understudy history from the perspective on truth. Lastly, Show me a status of Alaafin like the depicted Ooni sculptures you see all around even at British museum.. GOOOO AND STUDY YORUBA HISTORY FROM TRUE ACCOUNT. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 12:27pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Olu317: The Ooni is a sacred White chief whose bloodline was and is chosen by the Irunmole. Obas go to the Ooni to get their beads because Ile Ife is the sacred center of Yoruba culture. The Ooni was assigned as an Eunuch warrior and priest who life was to be pure. Eunuch were used even in China by emperors such as Oranmiyan who founded Oyo Empire. Eunuch were always loyal to the emperor when sometimes family wanted him deposed. Oranmiyan, the baba of Sango Alaafins, assigned the Ooni and his family sacred guardians of Ile Ife. Did you realize how many times Oyo was attacked, and sometimes burned to the ground? The price of Oyo being the capital of Oyo Empire and command center. You refer to Oranmiyan as an Ooni but he was no Eunuch he fathered children, two were Alaafins. The Ooni is over the sacred town of Ile Ife and the Alaafin is over the empire of Oyo. I can research the list of West African empires but I know there is no Ife Empire, no Oduduwa nation, and no Yoruba empire. There is an Akan empire, Mali Empire, a Dahomey empire and an Oyo empire. And last I checked the Alaafin is still the owner of the palace in Oyo. Long live the Alaafin Baba Sango Ayiawokabayesi Sango. Ase ase ase ooo |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 12:57pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
KingSango:Kikikiki ,I wish you can see me laughing hysterically at this opinion of yours. You know nothing about Ooni. Go and learn the oriki (panegyric), then you will know that you are totally lost on who Ooni was and his. Oriki Ooni Ogunwusi will give answer to your question if any Ooni was a Eunuch. If Ooni was a eunuch, why did he Oranmiyan has descendants that are in millions through his son called Ooni Lajamisan. Are you saying Alaafin of the old weren't warriors? Oranmiyan assigned who? You re a first LIAR. I repeat, you are a first Class LIAR. obatala families are in ILE IFE, OBAWINRIN families are in ILE IFE. ILA ORANGUN, who was the first male legitimate child of Adimunia/Admilia/Adimula is at ILA ORANGUN to buttress this point. You keep making childish claim when infact OBADIO, who was and still the keeper of the shrine of Odu'a is in ILE IFE. Save me all these fallacious statement. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 11:46am On Dec 02, 2017 |
Oni is not an Oba ..Oni is higher than Oba ..Ade is different from AARE'' THE SUPREME CROWN THAT IS ONLY WORN BY ONLY BY ONI OF IFE IS FROM AARE THAT EVERY ADE OBA IN YORUBA LAND HAS IT LEGITIMACY FROM AARE GAVE BIRTH TO ALL FIRST CLASS OBA IN YORUBA LAND ANY FIRST CLASS OBA MUST HAVE THEIR CROWN GIVEN BY IFE ROYAL HOUSE ..OMO ORANMIYAN .. ORANMIYAN HIMSELF WAS ONCE AN ONI OF IFE , HE WORE AARE ... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 1:17pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
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Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 12:31am On Dec 03, 2017 |
KingSango: you are joking.. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 6:54am On Dec 03, 2017 |
KingSango:So,you mean we Yorubas descended from the Sky?We don't worship Sango in some part of Yoruba land. You are a real clown .You see, most of you people over believe Samuel Ajayi crowther's book, despite some errors in his assertions because he was misled by his informants. Sango is popular in the world today but not worship by some Yoruba people in Yoruba land . Ogun is more honoured as a deity than Sango in Yoruba land within Nigeria and Benin Republic if the two are compared. Where do you get your own information? How can Sango ,whom you call king of the earth be curtailed by Èdun Ara if indeed he is the king of the earth? Ogun can not be curtailed. Yet, he was not in anyway called king of the earth but recognised as a member in the formation of the earth . Sango was a man turned deity and known as Aja-okuta and he was the son of Oranmiyan. In ILE IFE and many people in Eastern Yoruba people don't worship Sango. Get your facts 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 12:55pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Olu317: oranmiyan too was an oni so he was eunuch too ..so sango was adopted ??... |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 2:04pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Obalufon:Are you asking if Oranmiyan was an Eunuch? If that's your question, then the answer is NO because Eunuch don't procreate. . oranmiyan was never an Eunuch.Oonis in the olden days had people who were eunuch to serve and worship deities under the Ooni as they were seen as undefiled. And Sango was adopted. ARAMFE, had existed before Ajaokuta (Sango) came to being. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 1:58pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Olu317: Its understood that different regions worship exclusively a specific Irunmole. I know certain Yoruba kingdoms owe their primary allegiance to Ogun and this was connected to the trade of blacksmiths. In towns where weaver guilds dominate their Goddess was Osun. And Ife, which is the spiritual center, the favorite Orisha is Obatala and his servant Osochi. And Jakuta is worshiped over Sango as the God of lightning and thunder. Yet you are wrong in your conclusions not your facts. First, how come you call yourself Yoruba since obviously you are not from Oyo? ![]() Obatala came from the sky not us. Obatala created us, all human beings. Benin does worship Sango I know because I study Vodoun. Sango is the God of fire not just lightning and thunder like Jakuta. Haiti also worships Sango. The Haitian revolution was successful because of Ogun. Ogun is good at defense but not offense so Haiti suffers from lack of expansion. Sango is an empire builder and aggressive war God. Haiti tried to get in the African Union and was denied. Also Haiti is stuck speaking French in a region dominated by English. Without Sango at the helm there is no growth. Ogun is a King but Sango is the emperor. Obatala does not defend so Ile Ife needs Oyo to defend it. This is how come you call yourself Yoruba and the Alaafin is your emperor. All the traditional kings bow to Baba Sango the Alaafin. Sango is Nigeria's greatest king and the most famous African king. People respect various kings, pharaohs and even Shaka Zulu but Sango is the only African king worshiped today as a God in 42 nations outside of Nigeria. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Obalufon: 4:05pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Olu317: but oranmiyan was an Oni too read history and he has descendant in ife till date ..Oni ogunwusi is direct descendant of oranmiyan ..you need to listen to his Oriki man you are twisting history ..ife is far superior to oyo moreover oyo is no more glory of Oyo belong to ile-ife modakeke in ife are oyo returning back to ife after the old oyo was sacked by the north https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2ViMucrls |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 5:31pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Obalufon: No one is disputing the Oranyiman ruled in Ile Ife. ![]() ![]() Oranyiman was the most powerful ruler until he left this world. I've told you before you have your facts right but your conclusions are all wrong. We know Old Oyo was burned, this is how come Oranyiman kept Oyo as the political capital and not Ile Ife. Its because in war the enemy will attack the capital city as a strategic move. All capital cities come under attack in all out war between nations and kingdoms. So Oranyiman was extremely wise to foresee this event far into the future and set Ife Ife up as a sacred town so as to avoid this. Yet don't you know that Ile Ife doesn't belong to Oranyiman's bloodline? Oduduwa isn't origin to the area he came from East Africa bloodline of the royal Bachwezi. Olugbo of Ugbo Kingdom, Oba Frederick Obateru Akinruntan family owned Ile Ife and this is according also to Baba Sango the Alaafin. Yet the Alaafin is still King of all Yorubas because of the history of Sango. No Nigerian who loves Nigeria must be denouncing Sango, he was is Africa's greatest king and a Nigerian legend. I understand there are ethnic differences and regional but the history of the Niger area belongs to the whole nation of Nigeria. Ase Love Sango |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by Olu317(m): 6:07pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Obalufon:It seems you don't get it. I mentioned it that Oranmiyan was Ooni too. You didn't read my post very well. Oranmiyan was a powerful warrior and he became the sixth Ooni of ILE IFE. His descendants from the lineage of Ooni Lajamisan rules till date. On the issue of Oyo, the kingdom had lost total control when Afonja destroyed Oyo ILE , so you probably mean Ibadan supported Modakeke. There were issues, which made Ibadan through the back door tried but Ibadan failed at the end of the day to have her way. |
Re: Alafin's Supernatural Power Over Other Oba's In Yorubaland by KingSango(m): 6:18pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Olu317: Greetings, You like to twist facts to draw conclusions that aren't apart of the story. Oranyiman was Ooni and he founded Oyo Empire. Ile Ife is a sacred town and Oyo is a capital city of the Yoruba Empire of Oyo. I can't see how any Yoruba wouldn't want to claim both heritages seeing that Oranyiman did so? But I digress. Ase Love Sango |
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