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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by straffing: 6:39pm On Dec 01, 2017
Cadillac15:
I normally don't like posting in bullish periods because of the popular knowledge that everyone becomes an expert in such periods.

But I feel obliged to give some thoughts to newbies as they pay their NSE fees.

What is suddenly moving the market? Why are prices going up generally? The answer is simple. No more 18%+ interest in Treasury Bill. No more 16%+ interest in Bonds. All the monies that left the market as a result of the sudden increase of interest rates at the peak of our recession is returning back to the stock market. This is good for the market but has a very big disadvantage to inexperienced traders. Why? Because all the stocks will appreciate in price cool Will they remain so? No Why? Because investors will soon discern the good stocks from the bad and hence offload the bad to unfortunate hands who will then hold them through the bearish period or sell at a loss lipsrsealed

In all this, it is important to know everything about the company you are buying their shares, what is in it for you, what is moving their price and most importantly, your exit plan when poo hits the fan. I give you an example, what's special about Fidelity Bank? Is their numbers the best in the banking index? No cheesy then why is everyone looking their way right now? Simply because they declare good dividend historically. Now, you follow the band wagon, buy Fidelity because of this fact, not planning your trade. After the dividend play and ex-dividend date, the players will exit and this will pull back the price. Why? It will no longer be fruitful to hold Fidelity until the next dividend period chikena.

Another of such company is Afriprud. These are even companies with good financials o. So what happens to you if you had gone ahead to buy caverton because the price is rising with the general bull? Or CI Leasing? Or even Skye

Anyway, I'm in my house. If my opinion annoyed you, come and beat me grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:04pm On Dec 01, 2017
veecovee:
imagine! Some people think that he has a more accurate system than those that invested more than N10billn at 1.26. I don't know why currentprice talk like this. The other day he attacked diamond even at N1, where is diamond today? I want to advice all not to attack any company cause you are not there. There are levels of investors. No wise investor would invest up to N1blln in caverton or cilease

Giving an opinion about a stock is not the same as attacking it.
CP places a premium on current earnings which is reflected in his choice of stocks.

Transcorp p/e is about 16, which is higher than that of gtb, zenith, DS and other established companies.
Of course stocks is not only about earnings but I have learnt that the bottom line is very very important.
As for those buying based on the hope that transcorp might acquire a new power asset,that is a risky one. The process that will lead to the sale of those assets have not even commenced and only God knows long it will take. And besides, acquiring an Asset is one thing and turning it into profit is another thing.

And finally, I don't know what the share price of transcorp will be in the future as we are all working under probability. I wish those in the bus good luck grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by straffing: 7:09pm On Dec 01, 2017
I have a hunch you are not in the Fidelity train going by the sound-bite of your post. I would not know other better reasons ( maybe price volatility by your reasoning) that will be considered in opting for a particular stock other than good dividend payment history and a growing EPS. Those two variables are clearly on the side of Fidelity bank. It does appear that you mis- timed the market and missed the opportunity to a position.
Im sorry am this direct.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 7:10pm On Dec 01, 2017
leo1234:

shocked shocked shocked


I must cut my loses on Monday if need be. grin grin grin





Ndi Obere okwukwe.

N14B+ no be moi-moi.

Who gambles with such an amount? Even Alhaji did not become what he is today by throwing away money.

Learn to follow the money.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Ndi Obere okwukwe.

N14B+ no be moi-moi.

Who gambles with such an amount? Even Alhaji did not become what he is today by throwing away money.

Learn to follow the money.

Uncle Tony also did not get rich by bad deal making..... grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 7:20pm On Dec 01, 2017
lancee:



Transcorp ..eni ori yoo .ipade di ile

Jaaaaaa!!!

Let see what monday willl offer

Forget about Monday, it may well fall to 50k.

FA & TA no reach this one. This is a classic stock for patient investors. Sell and move one if you are looking for a quick buck.

I repeat - follow the money.

I now know a thing or two about following money.

BTW - I am a verrrrrry long term investor so my ranting above may not work for everyone.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 7:20pm On Dec 01, 2017
FOR LOCO ALONE:
A man like you sank over N13B and has gone to bed... grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by currentprice: 7:36pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Forget about Monday, it may well fall to 50k.

FA & TA no reach this one. This is a classic stock for patient investors. Sell and move one if you are looking for a quick buck.

I repeat - follow the money.

I now know a thing or two about following money.

BTW - I am a verrrrrry long term investor so my ranting above may not work for everyone.

boss on the bolded are you not worry about the 40b O/S shocked shocked shocked. are your not worrrry transcorp can do reconstruction of the share in the nearest future grin apart for all the eps , pe etc. transcorp have negative free cash of about 15B as at Q3. meaning the company needed cash seriously and right issue might be one of the option in future
grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by currentprice: 7:39pm On Dec 01, 2017
pluto09:


Giving an opinion about a stock is not the same as attacking it.
CP places a premium on current earnings which is reflected in his choice of stocks.

Transcorp p/e is about 16, which is higher than that of gtb, zenith, DS and other established companies.
Of course stocks is not only about earnings but I have learnt that the bottom line is very very important.
As for those buying based on the hope that transcorp might acquired a new power asset,that is a risky one. The process that will lead to the sale of those assets have not even commenced and only God knows long it will take. And besides, acquiring an Asset is one thing and turning it into profit is another thing.

And finally, I don't know what the share price of transcorp will be in the future as we are all working under probability. I wish those in the bus good luck grin

the guy can throw stone hennn, anyway na him opinion

i wish them best of luck too
grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 8:06pm On Dec 01, 2017
DeRuggedProf:
FOR LOCO ALONE:
A man like you sank over N13B and has gone to bed... grin


Money is relative o DRF.
That 13b might just be 1% of the man's worth.
And for Loco, ,.......
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nio68(m): 8:07pm On Dec 01, 2017
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Interesting moniker "straffing " grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 8:08pm On Dec 01, 2017
pluto09:


Money is relative o DRF.
That 13b might just be 1% of the man's worth.
And for Loco, ,.......

grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nio68(m): 8:15pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Forget about Monday, it may well fall to 50k.

FA & TA no reach this one. This is a classic stock for patient investors. Sell and move one if you are looking for a quick buck.

I repeat - follow the money.

I now know a thing or two about following money.

BTW - I am a verrrrrry long term investor so my ranting above may not work for everyone.

Not quite sure what you mean ..Uncle Tony(HH) is divesting , if you are following the money then you should running away not buying into it. If there is no trouble ahead not sure why he would be divesting ... in other climes news like this would cause drastic fall in share price lets see market's reaction on Monday... I feel Transcorp is for loose change if at all one want to invest in it.. just my opinion
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 8:31pm On Dec 01, 2017
straffing:
I have a hunch you are not in the Fidelity train going by the sound-bite of your post. I would not know other better reasons ( maybe price volatility by your reasoning) that will be considered in opting for a particular stock other than good dividend payment history and a growing EPS. Those two variables are clearly on the side of Fidelity bank. It does appear that you mis- timed the market and missed the opportunity to a position.
Im sorry am this direct.

Oga so you're straffing Fidelity staff. Abeg show me way
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 8:32pm On Dec 01, 2017
fopishow:
Gurus in the house, i am thinking of loading Okomu and presco long term say one year. Is this advisable?

Okomu and Presco are currently enjoying favourable atmosphere through the government's agro-based companies favourable policy. How long the policies are likely to be retained should be your guide.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 8:54pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Forget about Monday, it may well fall to 50k.

FA & TA no reach this one. This is a classic stock for patient investors. Sell and move one if you are looking for a quick buck.

I repeat - follow the money.

I now know a thing or two about following money.

BTW - I am a verrrrrry long term investor so my ranting above may not work for everyone.

Got u...will see how low it will go ...For long term investors like u no panic
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 10:13pm On Dec 01, 2017
nio68:


Not quite sure what you mean ..Uncle Tony(HH) is divesting , if you are following the money then you should running away not buying into it. If there is no trouble ahead not sure why he would be divesting ... in other climes news like this would cause drastic fall in share price lets see market's reaction on Monday... I feel Transcorp is for loose change if at all one want to invest in it.. just my opinion

Depends on how you see the glass. HF or HE?
Uncle Tony is selling and a greater fool is buying?
Who would be investing such an amount on impulse? At N350/$, that is ~$40m. Oh well

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 2zona(m): 10:15pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Forget about Monday, it may well fall to 50k.

FA & TA no reach this one. This is a classic stock for patient investors. Sell and move one if you are looking for a quick buck.

I repeat - follow the money.

I now know a thing or two about following money.

BTW - I am a verrrrrry long term investor so my ranting above may not work for everyone.
For all I care, who bought and who sold 11billion units of transcorp should not be a concern. The major point is that FX liquidity has improved, gas supply has improved, FG is gradually settling their debts to gencos Mr brent crude is headed for 70dollars, recession is over and transcorp is poised to report an impressive result (profit after tax) for FY 2017 compared to loss after tax reported last year. So why all this fuss about cross deal. Lets watch and see.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 10:17pm On Dec 01, 2017
currentprice:


boss on the bolded are you not worry about the 40b O/S shocked shocked shocked. are your not worrrry transcorp can do reconstruction of the share in the nearest future grin apart for all the eps , pe etc. transcorp have negative free cash of about 15B as at Q3. meaning the company needed cash seriously and right issue might be one of the option in future
grin

What was DF situation when Alhaji turned his scopes on it? What is the story today?
Wait until their books are pristine and still expect to pick it up at this levels?
I guess we all have to wait for the news behind the news
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 10:20pm On Dec 01, 2017
On Transcorp...whoever bought at 1.26, will not sit down and watch 11billion investment shrink...the entity or person obviously bought for profit..so guys expect a bull..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 10:28pm On Dec 01, 2017
valacious:
On Transcorp...whoever bought at 1.26, will not sit down and watch 11billion investment shrink...the entity or person obviously bought for profit..so guys expect a bull..

You might be disappointed waiting for the bulls. Someone invested that amount because they have a big plan for the company beyond bulls and bears.

Unless we all believe that Nigeria will burning diesel to power herself then the power sector is the next big thing. Not to think about their other small biz.

Last word on Transcorp before I get accused of MH
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nio68(m): 10:36pm On Dec 01, 2017
bigjay01:


Depends on how you see the glass. HF or HE?
Uncle Tony is selling and a greater fool is buying?
Who would be investing such an amount on impulse? At N350/$, that is ~$40m. Oh well

remember some people invested more than that in Oando when it was about N18 if i remmeber correctly , same biased analysis was put forward at the time .. where is price of oando today even before TS.

u wan sabi pikin pass hin papa?? it would be safer to think the buyer is the greater fool

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by samguru(m): 11:19pm On Dec 01, 2017
I am surprised so many analysts with little or no knowledge about dynamics of stock market have led Transcorp to abattoir and disembowel the company.

Whether the block divestment was from Uncle T or not, if there is no demand there can not be supply.

if Uncle T truly divest, does that imply the company is dead? go back to the results released so far are they not impressive? over bloated ordinary shares is the problem of the company.

Do you know if the plan is to dilute the shareholding structure?

You guys should go and find out the new buyer first, before you tear Locodemy to pieces.


Don't forget what is old to Uncle T is new to next man
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 11:48pm On Dec 01, 2017
samguru:
I am surprised so many analysts with little or no knowledge about dynamics of stock market have led Transcorp to abattoir and disembowel the company.

Whether the block divestment was from Uncle T or not, if there is no demand there can not be supply.

if Uncle T truly divest, does that imply the company is dead? go back to the results released so far are they not impressive? over bloated ordinary shares is the problem of the company.

Do you know if the plan is to dilute the shareholding structure?

You guys should go and find out the new buyer first, before you tear Locodemy to pieces.


Don't forget what is old to Uncle T is new to next man
OGA SAM UPDATE your blog na,since 2008 till now haba!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mascotlawman: 11:53pm On Dec 01, 2017
from all comments here, no one can actually tell the direction of transcorp. despite the FA and TA, we r still doing a guess work on the stock.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Manonamission: 12:27am On Dec 02, 2017
lancee:



Transcorp .. eni ori yoo .ipade di ile

Jaaaaaa!!!

Let see what monday willl offer

Omg!!! cheesy grin grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Egba mi o cheesy grin

I just imagined you doing this.....like from those Yoruba movies

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 1:35am On Dec 02, 2017
Manonamission:
In Fxuser's voice;

Dangsugar gap up

DangSugar
- from dat gap up at 16 to breaking n18
- some serz vol in Nov . over 1.5bln traded in da mth!



#justObserving
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 1:48am On Dec 02, 2017
Transcorp
- interesting discuss , i ff price
- nov mth was morel like neutral with below avg low vol
- d mth candle formed a tight doji, opening at 1.40, close 1.36 , high 1.53 , low 1.31
- last 6 mth closures: nov: 1.36 , oct: 1.44 , sept: 1.36, aug: 1.30, july : 1.44 , june: 1.43
- a close above july is very bullish , stop loss is Aug .
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nio68(m): 2:44am On Dec 02, 2017
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Cadillac15(m): 5:31am On Dec 02, 2017
straffing:
I have a hunch you are not in the Fidelity train going by the sound-bite of your post. I would not know other better reasons ( maybe price volatility by your reasoning) that will be considered in opting for a particular stock other than good dividend payment history and a growing EPS. Those two variables are clearly on the side of Fidelity bank. It does appear that you mis- timed the market and missed the opportunity to a position.
Im sorry am this direct.

Guess you are quoting me. Go check my posting history. I don't need to be in a stock to comment about it. I'm currently in DF and don't plan leaving it anytime soon and guess what, I'm not in it because of dividend.

Go check my earlier prediction on CI Leasing and Carverton.

I study the market and my posts are what I think of the market at the time of my posting. I don't have any unit of Fidelity, never planned to buy, not planning to buy in the future. Sorry my post hurt u. Ok?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:02am On Dec 02, 2017
fxuser:
Transcorp
- interesting discuss , i ff price
- nov mth was morel like neutral with below avg low vol
- d mth candle formed a tight doji, opening at 1.40, close 1.36 , high 1.53 , low 1.31
- last 6 mth closures: nov: 1.36 , oct: 1.44 , sept: 1.36, aug: 1.30, july : 1.44 , june: 1.43
- a close above july is very bullish , stop loss is Aug .


Good analysis.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 9:12am On Dec 02, 2017
fxuser:
Transcorp
- interesting discuss , i ff price
- nov mth was morel like neutral with below avg low vol
- d mth candle formed a tight doji, opening at 1.40, close 1.36 , high 1.53 , low 1.31
- last 6 mth closures: nov: 1.36 , oct: 1.44 , sept: 1.36, aug: 1.30, july : 1.44 , june: 1.43
- a close above july is very bullish , stop loss is Aug .


I will pick few units again on Monday if price remain within my band (1.30 - 1.35)
Can't pay more..... grin

DISCL: it is good we state our stands in times like this.
TA is my only tool here, bull self never come here. Who knows the mind of my bull?

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