Balogun older than Echiejile?it's the other way round (few months though)

Icon4s:


No.

Balogun is older than Musa, Echiejile, Omeruo and Onazi but is he longer serving than the quartet?

mazimee:




You didn't get the point? He doesn't worth the hype

You went too far to drive home your point. Calling for his picture to be brought down was way out of line.

goldfish80:

You went too far to drive home your point. Calling for his picture to be brought down was way out of line.

Maybe my choice of words was out of line, but
I just feel that he is occupying a space meant for a better player.

mazimee:


Maybe my choice of words was out of line, but
I just feel that he is occupying a space meant for a better player.

He didn't exactly get into the Super Eagles on the back of nothingness. Back to back Mvp in Isreal and a solid campaigner in the Europa cup for 2 seasons. He was instrumental when his team claimed the scalp of Inter Milan.

He has huge reputation in Isreal.

If we trash players for supposed poor performance in their first game, Balogun and Ekong would have been nowhere near this team.

Better players? You mean Martins is bad? Please currently who as a striker in the SE is better than Martins form wise?

My stands on this issue is "let's allow the coach do his job". Let's discuss more of our opponents etc

OMANBALA1:
Obafemi Martins played a single game when Oliseh was there if I am not mistaken and that was the last we heard about him. Rohr never invited him through out our impressive qualifiers run and we still dont need him. Let him make his top dollars and let the better players play. Are you an Oduduwa paid agent or something?

goldfish80:

He didn't exactly get into the Super Eagles on the back of nothingness. Back to back Mvp in Isreal and a solid campaigner in the Europa cup for 2 seasons. He was instrumental when his team claimed the scalp of Inter Milan.

He has huge reputation in Isreal.

If we trash players for supposed poor performance in their first game, Balogun and Ekong would have been nowhere near this team.

You have a point there, it is up for the Coach to decide.

goldfish80:

He didn't exactly get into the Super Eagles on the back of nothingness. Back to back Mvp in Isreal and a solid campaigner in the Europa cup for 2 seasons. He was instrumental when his team claimed the scalp of Inter Milan.

He has huge reputation in Isreal.

If we trash players for supposed poor performance in their first game, Balogun and Ekong would have been nowhere near this team.

You have a point there, all the same, it is up for the Coach to decide.

somehow:
Better players? You mean Martins is bad? Please currently who as a striker in the SE is better than Martins form wise?

My stands on this issue is "let's allow the coach do his job". Let's discuss more of our opponents etc

If Martins was better going by your drift why wasn't he invited even when we needed a top striker and Ighalo was not doing well or injured and Iheanacho was chopping bench. Answer that question and you will deduce why he is not better. The guy is a spent force. Quit trying to force him down our throats.

OMANBALA1:


if Martins was better going by your drift why wasn't he invited even when we needed a top striker and Ighalo was not doing well or injured and Iheanacho was chopping bench. Answer that question and you will deduce why he is not better. The guy is a spent force. Quit trying to force him down our throat.

may be because rohr is corrupt...as some have already alleged.

or probably he does not know Martins to be a Nigerian.

I was one of the strongest advocates for the invitation of Martins during the Keshi era. I feel, he did not take his chance when it eventually came.

If Rohr invites him, then i hope he can prove himself.

Mujtahida:

The argument is a huge waste. Rohr will invite who he will invite. What if he doesn't invite Martins? What would the Pro Martins people do? What if he invites him? What would the anti Martins people do? Both will do nada!

The passion and emotions with which some people argue this Martins case here, one begins to wonder.

mazimee:



Nwakaeme is another below average that should be thrown out through the window. His expliots in Israeli League earned him an invite only to mess up when he was supposed to deliver. The Dude scored goals in his League like Martins

judging him on just one game and on a not so good pitch? Haba.. be reasonable na.

If we're to go by that game alone, then Aina should be shipped away to Libya.

mazimee:



Nwakaeme is another below average that should be thrown out through the window. His expliots in Israeli League earned him an invite only to mess up when he was supposed to deliver. The Dude scored goals in his League like Martins

Nwakweme only failed to live up to expectation, you can't really say he messed up completely. l agree though, there may be better options than Nwakweme. I'm not just comfortable judging the ability of players with just a single game even without considering the state of the pitch in Algiers.

safarigirl:
then he should rest in his house and allow people who still have young careers to use the Super Eagles to grow.

He doesn't need the team, so why the hell is anyone forcing him on a team that CLEARLY does not need him as well?

I am bewildered by your reasoning you have been on this forum longer than me, I am sure. With all the informative and substantive discourse available to you here you have not updated your understanding.

This is at the heart of your myopic small minded approach to measuring quality and ability. Using the Super Eagles to further thier careers. So in other words you have slaughtered merit and enthroned mediocrity.

So because you are younger you are better using your reasoning Ronaldo, Danny Alves, Defoe, Robben, will not be in thier national teams.

National team selection is a recognition of outstanding quality and consistent top end performances. It is not to help players further thier careers.

Firstly, you perform in your club and league and you get recognised and bigger better clubs come in for you. It's not the national team SE that is a stepping stone for career progression.

Also jugding him just after 40 mins play on a not so good pitch, Aina also flopped on that same pitch, yet was given another chance.
Some people here never use leg touch ball before but na their mouth sharp pass when it comes to comdemnng players.

goldfish80:

You went too far to drive home your point. Calling for his picture to be brought down was way out of line.

Mujtahida:

And you just put a spin on what Kog45 said. Did he say we shouldn't discuss the matter because somebody will get offended or because the news is false regarding Kayode because Agali never said such rather it is owngoalnigeria.com with their dirty journalism who put a spin on whatever Agali said.

Go back and read his comment. He introduced the spin by mentioning someone's moniker.

Why should we not discuss a topic because it would offend someone?

If una see truth make una dey talk abeg

That question should go to the coach, he knows what he wants, no one is forcing anyone down your throat, the way some of you talk self, person go think say na una dey pick players.

We have seen some undeserving players the coach called so far, some have not even been given 2 mins play time yet the coach keeps calling them.

It's the job of the coach, he knows what he wants, Ezenwa was called in place of betters GKs in the league, so if it's by "how good you are, Ezenwa wouldn't have smelt the SE camp. It's the coach that knows what he wants in a player and if he decides to call Martins or even Macaulay, it's his decision to make which you can do nada about.

Some of una self too dey extremely sentimental.

Downgrading players that have paid their dues just to promote your bias.

OMANBALA1:


If Martins was better going by your drift why wasn't he invited even when we needed a top striker and Ighalo was not doing well or injured and Iheanacho was chopping bench. Answer that question and you will deduce why he is not better. The guy is a spent force. Quit trying to force him down our throats.

Petrobros:


Go back and read his comment. He introduced the spin by mentioning someone's moniker.

Why should we not discuss a topic because it would offend someone?

If una see truth make una dey talk abeg

Guy how far?

Abeg take some ice water and let's move on.

SupremeBeast:
this current Nigerian team has no problem with goal scoring so I don't see the reason for the calls that the coach should bring back Martins. what really is he gonna add to the team?

I tire o. If the guy were a midfielder or defender, I would have said yes let's try him. We have too many options in attack.

Nigerian Journalists are promoting their players. Just read an article about a South African based player. The headline was ,

"Must ____ break his leg before he is invited to the Super Eagle"

Expect to see more ridiculousness as WC approaches..

Adarabioyo start for man city tonight

Going by the criteria of some guys on this thread we should invite him and?

Naija journos are the worst of the worst. Most of them are either agents or get paid to write the craps they write in times like this. I just hope and pray that Rohr would have the boldness to ignore them all.


O pari

tbaba1234:
Nigerian Journalists are promoting their players. Just read an article about a South African based player. The headline was ,

"Must ____ break his leg before he is invited to the Super Eagle"

Expect to see more ridiculousness as WC approaches..

isan:
Adarabioyo start for man city tonight

He's already declared for England bro

komekn:


I am bewildered by your reasoning you have been on this forum longer than me, I am sure. With all the informative and substantive discourse available to you here you have not updated your understanding.

This is at the heart of your myopic small minded approach to measuring quality and ability. Using the Super Eagles to further thier careers. So in other words you have slaughtered merit and enthroned mediocrity.

So because you are younger you are better using your reasoning Ronaldo, Danny Alves, Defoe, Robben, will not be in thier national teams.

National team selection is a recognition of outstanding quality and consistent top end performances. It is not to help players further thier careers.

Firstly, you perform in your club and league and you get recognised and bigger better clubs come in for you. It's not the national team SE that is a stepping stone for career progression.

In team building, cohesion is very important.
Have you noticed response time of this current crop of players to invitation? Their behaviour on and off the pitch? Are we improving? Has the players you guys clamouring for shown any form of solidarity with this winning team? Are they passionate enough? What would've been their reaction to money NFF was owing them?

These current players were not paid match bonuses for Nigeria vs Algeria match until we were about to play Cameroon. Yet they reported to camp on time. That's passion.

Would you rather have a team of players that understand and play collectively or a team with talents with potential yet not achievement? You don't change a winning team anyhow. Yes we have a winning team. Martins and Enyeama have been divisive elements before and yes we are scared that they may yet be again. The records are there.

When will this Martin's argument end? Almost a week now

komekn:


I am bewildered by your reasoning you have been on this forum longer than me, I am sure. With all the informative and substantive discourse available to you here you have not updated your understanding.

This is at the heart of your myopic small minded approach to measuring quality and ability. Using the Super Eagles to further thier careers. So in other words you have slaughtered merit and enthroned mediocrity.

So because you are younger you are better using your reasoning Ronaldo, Danny Alves, Defoe, Robben, will not be in thier national teams.

National team selection is a recognition of outstanding quality and consistent top end performances. It is not to help players further thier careers.

Firstly, you perform in your club and league and you get recognised and bigger better clubs come in for you. It's not the national team SE that is a stepping stone for career progression.

you have been here shorterthan I have that is why you will never understand my person or the root of my comments.

That is why you will always take everything seriously and write long epistles that only you and your fanboys will read about supposed myopic minds.

I am flabbergasted that someone who cannot see beyond his nose or his EPL boys would accuse someone of myopia. You who thinks you know it all in football based on the small circle you have been lucky enough to dance around.

Oga, let this be the last time we will have to talk to each other since you simply cannot understand my person. You don't know jack about me, so I would appreciate if you kept whatever inane opinion you have of me to yourself.

I cannot even address the crap you wrote because I only saw that attack on my person and best believe, I can give as good as I get if I want to, your status in society be damned.

Like I said, let this be the last time we have to even address each other since your brain is so clogged it can only work in one lane....

Thanks and have a good night

komekn:


I am bewildered by your reasoning you have been on this forum longer than me, I am sure. With all the informative and substantive discourse available to you here you have not updated your understanding.

This is at the heart of your myopic small minded approach to measuring quality and ability. Using the Super Eagles to further thier careers. So in other words you have slaughtered merit and enthroned mediocrity.

So because you are younger you are better using your reasoning Ronaldo, Danny Alves, Defoe, Robben, will not be in thier national teams.

National team selection is a recognition of outstanding quality and consistent top end performances. It is not to help players further thier careers.

Firstly, you perform in your club and league and you get recognised and bigger better clubs come in for you. It's not the national team SE that is a stepping stone for career progression.

Oga she used your logic to reply you.You said martins doesn't need the Super eagles to promote his career like other players hence her reply that "He should stay at home and allow others to use SE to grow their careers.

isan:
When will this Martin's argument end? Almost a week now

The thing tire me o. I slept and woke up same argument. Before it was Nwakaeme, Ajagun etc

I'm not calling for his inclusion bro

SerVik:

He's already declared for England bro

Icon79:
Naija journos are the worst of the worst. Most of them are either agents or get paid to write the craps they write in times like this. I just hope and pray that Rohr would have the boldness to ignore them all.


O pari

Most of them are paid by players agent, not bothered anyway cos Rohr said something about not reading the papers or something like that can't recall, Will look for the link.

I know. Sometimes I wonder if some folks here are also paid to write some of the craps they post on this forum as well
But, hey, to each his own.



O pari

Magink:

Most of them are paid by players agent, not bothered anyway cos Rohr said something about not reading the papers or something like that can't recall, Will look for the link.

We missed 2006 world cup due to attitude of Okocha, Martins etc.
They were always reporting to camp late.
We lost to Angola because we paraded a depleted team.