mank1234:


In team building, cohesion is very important.
Have you noticed response time of this current crop of players to invitation? Their behaviour on and off the pitch? Are we improving? Has the players you guys clamouring for shown any form of solidarity with this winning team? Are they passionate enough? What would've been their reaction to money NFF was owing them?

These current players were not paid match bonuses for Nigeria vs Algeria match until we were about to play Cameroon. Yet they reported to camp on time. That's passion.

Would you rather have a team of players that understand and play collectively or a team with talents with potential yet not achievement? You don't change a winning team anyhow. Yes we have a winning team. Martins and Enyeama have been divisive elements before and yes we are scared that they may yet be again. The records are there.

One of the things I marvel at is the presumptuous negative deductions made but without a shred of under pining evidence. Particularly in the context of team cohesion.

Unless you are in that dressing room day in day out and even with that it's still not conclusive. You can not make that kind of deduction with regards to Enyeama and Martins.

With regards to Enyeama I know him to be a Christian of unquestionable integrity and very down to earth and humble. If he has any faults he hates injustice with a passion. So I'm sorry you are talking absolute balderdash.

Furthermore, you can actually play with players who hate you and you them. Yet still put in top class performances.

SupremeBeast:
this current Nigerian team has no problem with goal scoring so I don't see the reason for the calls that the coach should bring back Martins. what really is he gonna add to the team?

I can't remember the last time the SE scored four goals. This team scores!

nelszx:
Ryan Sanusi declares for Nigeria dunno how true but "our" media outlets carried the story



http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25722

Modified: Translated version from Dutch to English (I don't trust these our journalists )

BELGIAN WITH NIGERIA TO WORLD CUP? "BELGIUM DIFFICULT STORY"

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In Nigeria there are also a lot of good footballers, but it seems to me that I will get a chance there rather than in Belgium, although I do not really take it into account, I focus entirely on Sparta.

Forgiveness hear the non-committal words of Ryan whom you get red hot over. He himself is almost cold about the whole thing. He said he's focused on Sparta.

safarigirl:
you have been here shorterthan I have that is why you will never understand my person or the root of my comments.

That is why you will always take everything seriously and write long epistles that only you and your fanboys will read about supposed myopic minds.

I am flabbergasted that someone who cannot see beyond his nose or his EPL boys would accuse someone of myopia. You who thinks you know it all in football based on the small circle you have been lucky enough to dance around.

Oga, let this be the last time we will have to talk to each other since you simply cannot understand my person. You don't know jack about me, so I would appreciate if you kept whatever inane opinion you have of me to yourself.

I cannot even address the crap you wrote because I only saw that attack on my person and best believe, I can give as good as I get if I want to, your status in society be damned.

Like I said, let this be the last time we have to even address each other since your brain is so clogged it can only work in one lane....

Thanks and have a good night

I addressed the issue in the main and not your person.

It's an open forum if you don't want criticism constructive or otherwise dont comment.

So I will enjoin you to address the issues and not evade from it. Don't be so emotive.

On the other hand when Nigeria play England soon and very soon. I will buy you a drink not sure whether it will be at Wembley or Trafford Park yet. But the drinks are on me whatever the location.

In terms of football circle I probably know more Nigerian national coaches and full international players than you can imagine. If you recall or have forgotten too, I actually went to watch Etebo in Warri stadium. I do believe my circle is wide and not limited to just England although it's my main area of speciality without doubt.

Being here is light humour for me and sometimes interesting playful past time.

With regards to luck I do not believe I am lucky at all. I am a entirely blessed because it's unexplainable by rational. So I consider my network 100% absolutely the favour of God. That makes me humble. I'm now personalising the issue so you will not be so deeply offended. You probably never come across me or me you, but there is no intention to offend as you clearly are.

nelszx:
Ryan Sanusi declares for Nigeria dunno how true but "our" media outlets carried the story



http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25722

Modified: Translated version from Dutch to English (I don't trust these our journalists )

BELGIAN WITH NIGERIA TO WORLD CUP? "BELGIUM DIFFICULT STORY"

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Nigeria is keeping an eye on the situation of Cyriel Dessers, but there is another Belgian who does see what to do for Nigeria.

Ryan Sanusi plays for Sparta Rotterdam. "It's not something I'm really working on, but it would of course be great," acknowledges the cousin of Belgian international Moussa Dembélé to Het Algemeen Dagblad.

The Red Devils are far too ambitious. "After all, every player wants the highest possible, and higher than a World Cup you can not come as a football player, and the Belgian team will be a difficult story for me. But who knows, there is a chance for me to come out for Nigeria World Cup In Nigeria there are also a lot of good footballers, but it seems to me that I will get a chance there rather than in Belgium, although I do not really take it into account, I focus entirely on Sparta. "

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=nl&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.voetbalbelgie.be/nl/article.php%3Fid%3D130608&usg=ALkJrhhdXmJoDStHugzmsYuJ8jpHJJkGEw

Everyone wants to play at the World Cup

@bolded confirmed he has declared for Nigeria. Oh ha!

Mujtahida:

Forgiveness hear the non-committal words of Ryan whom you get red hot over. He himself is almost cold about the whole thing. He said he's focused on Sparta.

Bros, pls read that thing well. He has declared to play for us.

jihday:
how did he fade out quickly, I rarely hear his name when history of Nigerian football is being discussed

Yes you are right.He played for Eagles between 1986-1990.He was the captain of U20 team that came third at Moscow 85,Samson Siasia and Alloy Agu were part of this team.

He was in eagles's team that played at 1988 Seoul Olympics in Korea, also maroc 88 and Aigiers 90 and captain Eagles under wonder boy Paul Hamilton.

He played for Rosealare in Belgium but later moved to Germany to continue his professional career till he retired from the game,now a youth coach in Germany.

forgiveness:


@bolded confirmed he has declared for Nigeria. Oh ha!

He just wants to ride on the back of Nigeria for a shot at the world cup,going by the statement. Is that not a Kevin Prince Boateng red flag?

Icon4s:


The passion and emotions with which some people argue this Martins case here, one begins to wonder.

It's better we discuss our WC opponents jare

somehow:
Also jugding him just after 40 mins play on a not so good pitch, Aina also flopped on that same pitch, yet was given another chance.
Some people here never use leg touch ball before but na their mouth sharp pass when it comes to comdemnng players.

Bros Nwakaeme was subbed at about 70 minutes into the game. Do you mean he was subbed in the first half?
Nwakaeme should be given a chance but I have strong doubts he'd come good. He seems not to have the gene of an Eagle. Maybe he's a hawk but not an Eagle.

goldfish80:

He just wants to ride on the back of Nigeria for a shot at the world cup,going by the statement. Is that not a Kevin Prince Boateng red flag?

I think Kevin ran away from the juju in that team.

We no get that one for here.

somehow:
National team is just one of his various jobs he's handled, so how come you are using the national team to judge him 100%?

Not all Nigerian coaches had it easy with the SE, some had to become puppets while some didn't. Siasia had issues with the players too, Keshi had with the Togolese players, it's not peculiar to Oliseh, it has more to do with Africans not respecting their own. Before national team, he coached some European youth teams and now he's doing it with a top club. Cut him some slacks and don't expect everyone to act the way you want. That's his style and so far so good is working for him. He's not the only coach with this way of working, they are every where in the world including known names. (Mourinho, pep etc).

May God reward you richly for this post. I have said this severally concerning Sunday Oliseh. He has his own methods. I can relate to his style of leadership because discipline is key. If you know where you are going, the whole world steps aside. It is when people dont value you that they start to question your moves. Its something I experience most times and I laugh at people because they just want things done in a way that you dont compromise relationships. I say to hell with whatever relationship will mar my productivity. What Oliseh did at Fortuna Dusseldoff was to remove any iota of player power which lately seems to be the order of the day in world football. I would rather have players who are loyal to my ideas and ideals than players who have a different philosophy or question every decision I make. You may not know this, but thats how dissension starts in a team.

I hear a lotta people talk about man management. Truth be told, human beings are one's greatest asset and also they are one's greatest problem. Its all about serving the right purposes. If someone wont serve my purpose, there is no way we would get along. Especially because when things go wrong, my name comes first. Lets recap a little.... Oliseh never lost a competitive qualifiers thus callin him names regarding the Afcon loss is a bit unfair. The chief culprit is Siasia who drew at home and lost away to Egypt. But what does the narrative say now? OLISEH FAILED TO QUALIFY NIGERIA FOR AFCON. We know the rest of the story.

Eseose9:


Oga she used your logic to reply you.You said martins doesn't need the Super eagles to promote his career like other players hence her reply that "He should stay at home and allow others to use SE to grow their careers.

That is not a comment of comparative logic.

The issue raised was in response to her comments that why did Obagoal with all his money not pay inducement to get into Keshi's SE team.

I then explained Obagoal is not desperately hungry or needed a call up to the SE to give his career a boost and or credibility. .

In comparison to players who are in backwater leagues and almost anonymous.

Furthermore, he Obagoal would have considered it an affront to have to settle before playing for the SE.

So Oniovo that is not logic.

forgiveness:


I think Kevin ran away from the juju in that team.
We no get that one for here.

The juju mysteriously disappears whenever Ghana qualified for the World Cup

Magink:

Most of them are paid by players agent, not bothered anyway cos Rohr said something about not reading the papers or something like that can't recall, Will look for the link.

I remember he said it on Channels TV that he doesn't read Nigerian newspapers. That's bad but considering the undisguised spin jobs these guys do for players especially at a time like this, I would do the same were I to be in his shoes.
If it were to be a naija coach in charge everything would have dabaaru. They would fill the team with wafers and we'd go to the WC and get chewed by Argentina, Croatia and the Norsemen.

komekn:


One of the things I marvel at is the presumptuous negative deductions made but without a shred of under pining evidence. Particularly in the context of team cohesion.

Unless you are in that dressing room day in day out and even with that it's still not conclusive. You can not make that kind of deduction with regards to Enyeama and Martins.

With regards to Enyeama I know him to be a Christian of unquestionable integrity and very down to earth and humble. If he has any faults he hates injustice with a passion.[s] So I'm sorry you are talking absolute balderdash. [/s]

Furthermore, you can actually play with players who hate you and you them. Yet still put in top class performances.

The last paragraph suggest that football is more an individual sport than team sport.

He didn't turn the other cheek in the face off with Oliseh so let's not whip religious sentiments there. Does it mean that civil servants should not serve the public again because they're being owed their wages? Or which injustice are you referring to?

I specifically pointed out how we missed 2006 world cup in subsequent post. That's what indiscipline and arrogance can do to a team. Talent is not enough.

Learn to argue your points without personal attack.

forgiveness:


@bolded confirmed he has declared for Nigeria. Oh ha!

Since it's obvious they won't come for him, according to him. That's not commitment

mank1234:
We missed 2006 world cup due to attitude of Okocha, Martins etc.
They were always reporting to camp late.
We lost to Angola because we paraded a depleted team.

so Garuba Lawaal still reach 2006,

Humility017:


Lol.........
he first call this young players pretenders at some point...
pretenders scoring in their European club leagues weekly.........if the likes of Henry,yinka Dennis etc are pretenders so be it.....
better than one tired leg...in China playing wit Chinese players who can't even manage get their country to playoff spot in world cup qualifiers.....

I pick ighalo ahead of him even though they both play in China...ighalo is not just a striker good wit his legs but his head as well.....and @world a striker need both to excel.

Just say you don't want Martins because this your Ighalo yarns get as ee be. When I argued against the inclusion of Martins I based it entirely on my sentiments and I said so. Your attempt to rationalise why Ighalo will be invited and not Martins when both of them play in China, have almost the same goalscoring stats, when Ighalo has not scored a single goal with his head for us makes your points one kind, one kind Bro. Ighalo is not one known to be good with his head. Since Adepoju and maybe Agali we've not had any player that it can be said that that player is good with his head. None!
Better to argue against his inclusion on the grounds of team spirit but not this points above. They ain't valid.

Napoleon55:
so Garuba Lawaal still reach 2006,

Yes. He was part of 2006 team. He always report to camp early.

Mujtahida:

Just say you don't want Martins because this your Ighalo yarns get as ee be. When I argued against the inclusion of Martins I based it entirely on my sentiments and I said so. Your attempt to rationalise why Ighalo will be invited and not Martins when both of them play in China, have almost the same goalscoring stats, when Ighalo has not scored a single goal with his head for us makes your points one kind, one kind Bro. Ighalo is not one known to be good with his head. Since Adepoju and maybe Agali we've not had any player that it can be said that that player is good with his head. None!
Better to argue against his inclusion on the grounds of team spirit path but not this points above.

please remind me how he scored the 3rd goal against the cameroonians in the last friendly we played in Brussels...

ighalo earned his super eagles call base on his exploit in the epl sometime ago....and since then...he has not dip in form in the eyes of the super eagles team handlers.....
some of you don't know...that players rating by coaches go beyond their performance in the field of play....
Mister training performance is also inclusive....ebuehi has never kicked a ball besides the Corsica friendly dude still gets invitation every now and then...reason because of what rohr sees in training......

so you keep....your lame reason for not wanting martins to yourself....but as for me...dude is not better than the players we currently have in the super eagles...

goldfish80:

The juju mysteriously disappears whenever Ghana qualified for the World Cup

Didn't he run from the last WC?

Petrobros:


Go back and read his comment. He introduced the spin by mentioning someone's moniker.

Why should we not discuss a topic because it would offend someone?

If una see truth make una dey talk abeg

Oh for mentioning forgiveness,my man normally i would say SORRY if i offend any moniker through my comments and move on cos with my age i don't think i should be here having issues on top football.

As i said am here to learn and share information and my love for a team i have been following since 1980.If I post a comment I know what am doing and not to mock or ridicule any moniker.

My comment on that post is simple and easy to understand.Great guys like Joebie, junnyake,Mujtahida, tbaba1013,Goke7,goldfish80 etc do post news here for us to read but have never seen them post a news to mock or ridicule any gentle monikers.The post was targeted at forgiveness and it was glaring.Mind you i don't care if it's forgiveness cos it can be anybody and i will still say the same thing.

We are free to express ourselves but we should not believe it was just a forum, let me say whatever i like,no is not done that way.We should all remember something brought us here which is the love for super eagles, then why are we always take offence on simple matter that can be resolved amicably..

With due respect my man am not here to gang talk anybody down based on his choice of player or his contrary view to my analysis.Honestly am here to gather information through you guys cos is valuable.

My comment was not to defend forgiveness but to let the poster know that he can't post a news to taunt anyone but for us to read and discuss.

If mentioning forgiveness is my offence am indeed sorry not to defend him but to correct the poster.

Thanks and God bless.

komekn:


I addressed the issue in the main and not your person.

It's an open forum if you don't want criticism constructive or otherwise dont comment.

So I will enjoin you to address the issues and not evade from it. Don't be so emotive.

On the other hand when Nigeria play England soon and very soon. I will buy you a drink not sure whether it will be at Wembley or Trafford Park yet. But the drinks are on me whatever the location.

In terms of football circle I probably know more Nigerian national coaches and full international players than you can imagine. If you recall or have forgotten too, I actually went to watch Etebo in Warri stadium. I do believe my circle is wide and not limited to just England although it's my main area of speciality without doubt.

Being here is light humour for me and sometimes interesting playful past time.

With regards to luck I do not believe I am lucky at all. I am a entirely blessed because it's unexplainable by rational. So I consider my network 100% absolutely the favour of God. That makes me humble. I'm now personalising the issue so you will not be so deeply offended. You probably never come
across me or me you, but there is no intention to offend as you clearly are.

Safarigirl it's not so bad. Just a little lightheartedness and all is good. Shey you know we have our own team spirit here too. Oya komekn has extended some good hand to you.

mank1234:


Since it's obvious they won't come for him, according to him. That's not commitment

He shot himself on the leg and he didn’t even know he did. What he was saying in essence was that Belgium would have been better for him but the competition was too much for him, So Nigeria wasn't his primary target.

mazimee:


He shot himself on the leg and he didn’t even know he did. What he was saying in essence was that Belgium would have been better for him but the competition was too much for him, So Nigeria wasn't his primary target.

Exactly

forgiveness:


Bros, pls read that thing well. He has declared to play for us.

Don't force it. That ground which Sanusi has given on which you stand to say he's declared for us is too thin for me to stand with you in your believe.
Anyway those who even declare often get ignored. It's best the NFF goes after him than for him to declare.

komekn:


I addressed the issue in the main and not your person.

It's an open forum if you don't want criticism constructive or otherwise dont comment.

So I will enjoin you to address the issues and not evade from it. Don't be so emotive.

On the other hand when Nigeria play England soon and very soon. I will buy you a drink not sure whether it will be at Wembley or Trafford Park yet. But the drinks are on me whatever the location.

In terms of football circle I probably know more Nigerian national coaches and full international players than you can imagine. If you recall or have forgotten too, I actually went to watch Etebo in Warri stadium. I do believe my circle is wide and not limited to just England although it's my main area of speciality without doubt.

Being here is light humour for me and sometimes interesting playful past time.

With regards to luck I do not believe I am lucky at all. I am a entirely blessed because it's unexplainable by rational. So I consider my network 100% absolutely the favour of God. That makes me humble. I'm now personalising the issue so you will not be so deeply offended. You probably never come across me or me you, but there is no intention to offend as you clearly are.

such kind and matured words from you....#respect.

I don't know why we've never been on the same page.....we always up against each other comments...
maybe one-day we will toil same line....

Mujtahida:

Don't force it. That ground which Sanusi has given on which you stand to say he's declared for us is too thin for me to stand with you in your believe.
Anyway those who even declare often get ignored. It's best the NFF goes after him than for him to declare.

Is he that good?




Questence

mazimee:


He shot himself on the leg and he didn’t even know he did. What he was saying in essence was that Belgium would have been better for him but the competition was too much for him, So Nigeria wasn't his primary target.

Translated from a Belgium article.

The real meaning of his words may have been altered/lost in translation.




Questence

mumemma:
Watchn Akpeyi on SS4,I guess its their cup finals.....He has been solid...Made an incredible save now.....I think he is our best bet......

I've said Akpeyi clearly needs to see a psychologist time and time again on here. Maybe he should wear Chippa United's Jersey when he's playing for us.

Mujtahida:

Just say you don't want Martins because this your Ighalo yarns get as ee be. When I argued against the inclusion of Martins I based it entirely on my sentiments and I said so. Your attempt to rationalise why Ighalo will be invited and not Martins when both of them play in China, have almost the same goalscoring stats, when Ighalo has not scored a single goal with his head for us makes your points one kind, one kind Bro. Ighalo is not one known to be good with his head. Since Adepoju and maybe Agali we've not had any player that it can be said that that player is good with his head. None!
Better to argue against his inclusion on the grounds of team spirit but not this points above. They ain't valid.

Exactly man! I mean if he's saying Ighalo has better qualities and this same Ighalo is benching Nacho, why not compare Nacho qualities to that of Martins. What does Nacho bring as a 9 that Martins can't offer??
The only valid excuse for not inviting Martins is sentimental(i.e disruptive presence in the dressing room, etc) but it can NEVER be based on ability. That is fact. Martins is a better 9 than Nacho at the moment. I'll continue to say it.