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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:44pm On Dec 07, 2017
Loogan:


As much as a lot of people here might not agree with you on Moses being a right wing back on that formation, but you have a solid Point, Moses has a wing back for Nigeria will not only bring stability to our defense and make it impossible to break down and give us a more solid squad especially with idowu on the other wing, but again unfortunately he's he's the best attacker we have and rohr might not want him there also playing as a wing back would help us keep the ball a lot better under pressure, also he can always play a game where me moves forward a lot to dangerous effects while other cover for him.
i never considered it but with the recent success in the new formation, I feel Moses will serve better as a defensive shield for the defense, with iwobi and co who are less selfish than Moses doing thier thing upfront, and an unsuspected v Moses lurking around for a mistake. With Moses and idowu covering my wing back position in that formation we can truely beat any team.
thank you bro.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:46pm On Dec 07, 2017
safarigirl:
grin We should get a gif of Onyekuru skinning Dani Alves

....or Iwobi nutmegging Mascherano......

While at it, I do hope Croatians have that article where Ndidi was named EPL's tackle master

Very brilliant reply and post.

I believe Kovacic, Modric and Rakitic will watch Leicester City games with more intent because they know he is going to be one of the players out to disrupt their play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:51pm On Dec 07, 2017
Kovacic doing his thing against Deportivo La Coruna.

Ndidi train O!

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:52pm On Dec 07, 2017
FabioPeter:
Our nightmare is the goal keeping department. Uzoho is young and untested, Ezenwa is erratic, Akpenyi is a basket, Enyeama is unfit and clubless.

Enyeama is not clubless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:56pm On Dec 07, 2017
Luka Modric taking Andre Gomes of Barcelona Clubbing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:57pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


So if someone ask you if there are players in the Super Eagles that can play multiple roles across the forward line, you will say no. Haba. Fear God. wink

We are talking about modern CF not versatile players.

In this case, we don't have.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:58pm On Dec 07, 2017
The funniest part of the Modric dribble of Gomes was when Gomes tried to trip Modric and still staggered.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:01pm On Dec 07, 2017
forgiveness:


We don't evem have a modern CF neither do we have a prolific traditional striker in the national team.
Pls which one is modern CF or traditional striker again cos i remember 23 year ago all our FW were potential goal scorers and check US 94 team,Amokachie 2 goals,Amuneke 2 goals,Siasia 1 goal,Findi 1 goal,Yekini 1 goal and i don't think there was anything like modern CF during this period.

What we have in that team was top 9 which is Yekini but with your analysis and thegoodjoe am really confused on the role of Amokachie, Amuneke, Siasia,Finidi,do we called them modern CF?cos they are real goal poachers and Yekini as traditional striker.

The present eagle is not different from US squad if you check our goals statistics our forwards shared similar traits with what we have at US 94.They are real goal scorers.

Truly football has evolved but not much cos this your modern CF was used by Westerhoff but with the presence of traditional striker.

Now back to your comment you said we dont have modern CF but what are Iheanacho,Iwobi,Vic Moses,Simeon Moses,Onyekwuru,Kayode?

Remember with our traditional striker in Nwakaeme we could only scored a goal against Algeria but in his absence we had four goals against Argentina,

My question now with the absence of traditional striker against Argentina,who was our CF cos you said we don't have modern CF and what really make a player a modern CF and even traditional striker.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Dec 07, 2017
forgiveness:


We are talking about modern CF not versatile players.

In this case, we don't have.

Modern day forwards has a lot to do with versatility and hard work. This we do have.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:03pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


If Guardiola wanted to let Iheanacho go, there would be no reason for Manchester City putting a buy back clause.

The club does not want Iheanacho to go but they had to respect Guardiol's decision hence the need for Man city to play safe should incase Guardiola fails and moves on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:05pm On Dec 07, 2017
Kog45:
Pls which one is modern CF or traditional striker again cos i remember 23 year ago all our FW were potential goal scorers and check US 94 team,Amokachie 2 goals,Amuneke 2 goals,Siasia 1 goal,Findi 1 goal,Yekini 1 goal and i don't think there was anything like modern CF during this period.

What we have in that team was top 9 which is Yekini but with your analysis and thegoodjoe am really confused on the role of Amokachie, Amuneke, Siasia,Finidi,do we called them modern CF?cos they are real goal poachers and Yekini as traditional striker.

The present eagle is not different from US squad if you check our goals statistics our forwards shared similar traits with what we have at US 94.They are real goal scorers.

Truly football has evolved but not much cos this your modern CF was used by Westerhoff but with the presence of traditional striker.

Now back to your comment you said we dont have modern CF but what are Iheanacho,Iwobi,Vic Moses,Simeon Moses,Onyekwuru,KayCF e?

Remember with our traditional striker in Nwakaeme we could only scored a goal against Algeria but in his absence we had four goals against Argentina,

My question now with the absence of traditional striker against Argentina,who was our CF cos you said we don't have modern CF and what really make a player a modern CF and even traditional striker.


Back in 1994, talent and ability wise is not different from today. However, roles are different which suits the modern game.

Back then, we had the wingers, Finidi, Amunike, and the support strikers like Amokachi. We had the hitmen or finishers. Yekini and Siasia. A versatile striker could also play the support striking role.

Today, a player like Neymar can play on the left wing, right wing, support striking role or lead the attack. Players were not giving such freedom in the past.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:09pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Back in 1994, talent and ability wise is not different from today. However, roles are different which suits the modern game.

Back then, we had the wingers, Finidi, Amunike, and the support strikers like Amokachi. We had the hitmen or finishers. Yekini and Siasia. A versatile striker could also play the forward role.

Today, a player like Neymar can play on the left wing, right wing, support striking role or lead the attack. Players were not giving such freedom in the past.
OK but forgiveness said we don't have modern CF in this present team and which look a little bit confusing cos we nailed Argentina without a traditional striker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:13pm On Dec 07, 2017
Danielnino00:



TBH, I'm more worried about Kovacic,Perisic and Mandzukic than Modric

Balogun/Ekong will deal with strikers like Mandzukic better than strikers like Suarez for instance.

Players like Aboubakar and Slimani could not show anything. The Zambian striker Ngonga who was full of running was a handful for them.

I think the creativity of Modric is a more important asset than what the others offer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:14pm On Dec 07, 2017
forgiveness:


The club those not want Iheanacho to go but they had to respect Guardiol's decision hence the need for Man city to play safe should incase Guardiola fails and moves on.

Guardiola got Gabriel Jesus who had more attributes than Iheanacho. Not that Iheanacho lacked the attributes to play. Compared to those we have, Iheanacho is one that has lots of fine attributes to fit the modern game in our team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:17pm On Dec 07, 2017
Danielnino00:





TBH, I'm more worried about Kovacic,Perisic and Mandzukic than Modric



That's ridiculous those guy can't lace his boots and this is coming from a barca fan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:18pm On Dec 07, 2017
Kog45:
OK but forgiveness said we don't have modern CF in this present team and which look a little bit confusing cos we nailed Argentina with the absence of traditional striker.

He is just trying to act like if he does not get the point. The point is that Rohr prefers versatility. Even Nwakaeme switched roles during the Algerian game.

We have more modern day forwards than traditional strikers. No one talked about Modern day center forward. Instead, modern day forwards who can play different roles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:19pm On Dec 07, 2017
@Forgiveness.... your Boy - Lookman is on fire Tonight - 2 Goals to his Name already!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:21pm On Dec 07, 2017
BascoVanVeli:




That's ridiculous those guy can't lace his boots and this is coming from a barca fan

Danielnino00 said he is more worried of the others than Modric. Not that they are better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:22pm On Dec 07, 2017
tbaba1234:
I watched some croatian WC qualifiers. I observed that whilst the midfielders are good on the ball, the CBs do not like to be pressed on the ball. They lose possession when pressed well and it has resulted in some goals conceded.
That is also also what Croatia and the other teams will notice about our backline too. Press our backline and they'd lose possession.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:23pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Danielnino00 said he is more worried of the others than Modric. Not that they are better.

means the same thing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:25pm On Dec 07, 2017
Icon4s:


That is one of the demerits of that 3-5-2 formation. It will not allow us to maximize our potentials.
But If we must play 3-5-2 and we have to bring in Victor Moses we line up like this:

............Moses..........Iheanacho

........................Iwobi
Idowu......Mikel.............Ndidi....Shehu

.......Balogun......Awaziem.......Ekong


I prefer Moses in the attack and not as Wing Back. He is our major attacking weapon.
Shehu? Haaa! Don't think this has to do with Ebuehi oo but just look at Shehu in his own rights as a RWB. He won't fly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RoyalBlak007: 8:30pm On Dec 07, 2017
♤ We've got Messi to deal with

♤We've got Modric to deal with embarassed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:31pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola got Gabriel Jesus who had more attributes than Iheanacho. Not that Iheanacho lacked the attributes to play. Compared to those we have, Iheanacho is one that has lots of fine attributes to fit the modern game in our team.

Which Iheanacho? Iheanacho doesn't have.

You can deceive the mumus not me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34pm On Dec 07, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


means the same thing.

If I say I am more worried about Lingard in the coming derby in Manchester, than Lukaku or Martial, does that mean I am saying Lingard is better than them? I am afraid of Lingard's pressing which will make it difficult for our defenders to keep possession.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:35pm On Dec 07, 2017
Mujtahida:

That is also also what Croatia and the other teams will notice about our backline too. Press our backline and they'd lose possession.

Well, that is why teams study other teams. Croatia weakness is particular obvious because they conceded a couple of goals as a result.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:37pm On Dec 07, 2017
forgiveness:


Which Iheanacho? Iheanacho doesn't have.

You can deceive the mumus not me.

Wat is with u and Iheanacho? why must u always discredit him?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:42pm On Dec 07, 2017
Icon4s:


We go with a Right wing back option. Meaning we need just one RWB Back-up. You pick Moses as the first choice, leaving room for one slot from the RBs.
I think rohr have said it repeatedly...that the team to play gonna dictate the kind of formation to adopt...
and for V Moses....being that we can play the 4-4-1-1 sometimes....he perfectly fits into all the formations....so there won't be a problem having the 3 RB....in the team.

he can still play as a winger when we revert to the old formation...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:47pm On Dec 07, 2017
Icon4s:


You see.
I have said it here before....
better they play for under 23 and 21 side so as to keep match fit.
than sit all through the bench....I still remember what Liverpool bench did to Moses @the last world cup....
anyone who has got problem wit that...should look elsewhere...
every Nigeria who watch football knows what nacho and musa offers when they're in the field of play for the national team....


they should play in any team just to keep fit.....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:50pm On Dec 07, 2017
lexyman:



this combination is hot , it will be nice against older teams ... we are going to experience a very fast game play , mikel should be able to slow the tempo of that kind of gameplay at will . having Sheu and idowu as 2 and 3 .
shehu?
you are joking bro....
how about ebuehi...the truth is ebuehi is well ahead of shehu offensively...the lad got good crosses...and for a wingback in 3-5-2 set up....ebuehi should start....ahead of shehu...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:56pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


If I say I am more worried about Lingard in the coming derby in Manchester, than Lukaku or Martial, does that mean I am saying Lingard is better than them? I am afraid of Lingard's pressing which will make it difficult for our defenders to keep possession.

that comment is illegal bro. Martial's like big toe is better than Lingard no matter how hard he presses. Also like I said there should be no circumstance barring injury that any Croat should be mentioned in the same breath as Modric, that's football blasphemy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:58pm On Dec 07, 2017
Humility017:

shehu?
you are joking bro....
how about ebuehi...the truth is ebuehi is well ahead of shehu offensively...the side got good crosses...and for a wingback in 3-5-2 set up....ebuehi should start....ahead of shehu...

I feel Ebuehi played the 3-5-2 system better than Shehu against Argentina but let us see him in more games first. He seems to recover better than Shehu though the whole team was poor in the first half.

Shehu was outstanding in the qualifiers.

We can adjust personnel depending on the approach to the game.

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