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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:02pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Oasis007: One of the goals was a rocket from about 30 yards. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Why? I am more worried about Lingard. Our system relies a lot on the defence and goalkeeper keeping possession. Lingard will make it a bit tough. Lukaku having more talent does not change the fact that I am more scared of Lingard than Lukaku. Just as I am more scared of Kovacic than Modric. Simple. We leave gaps during play and Kovacic thrives on running into spaces. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:19pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Icon4s:I don't understand this. Are we going to play only one formation? Okay assuming we decide to play 3-5-2 in a certain game and Vicmo is the RWB we will have just one sub for his position. But what happens when in the next game we decide to go 4-4-3, does that mean we would have just one RB with no sub since 3-5-2 determined our choice of players? By the way I don't see us sticking to this 3-5-2 as our main tactics. It's just one more tactics in our toolbox to enhance our options and unpredictability. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:20pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
blueto:Ehen, this is clearer to me. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:21pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
tbaba1234:As you have said, a player who recovers in time will make a better wing back because he is attack minded and defense minded at same time. So from what I have seen so far, I will play Ebuehi as a wing back (that is if Moses is to play an offensive role) if we are to use a three back line formation and play Shehu as a Right Back if we are using a four man back line. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:23pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida:thanks |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:27pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Icon4s: Icons I had to do this reshuffle for these two reasons : *Awaziem takes the left side of the 3man defense bkus Balogun is lacking in pace, with Octopus Ndidi and Mikel in front of Balogun, his pace won't be put to test. *Shehu is better suited to play as a fullback than RWB. A case study is our game against Argentina. We all saw how ebuehi made the difference. Bar, these ltl reshuffling, man u r so wicked, u don't mean any good for ur opponents. U damne heartless Icon4s. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:27pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
goldfish80:Ahmed Musa's difficulty in securing a place as a starter began as soon as he got to Leicester not when he had that thing with his wife. Just wanted to set the records straight. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:35pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Kog45: If you follow the discussion, some people told me we don't need a traditional striker when it is glaring we play 4-2-3-1 formation that demands a traditional striker. Now, out of the players you mentioned Vicmo, Simon and Onyekuru are outside forwards or wingers which is also part of forward but they are not CFs, while Iheanacho type of forward is SS. He can't play the outside forward and CF. Gbam. The only player that can play CF is Kayode. This is why Guardiola placed a personal call to get him on man city's book. Against Argentina, we played a different formation and the coach used two forwards. They were false 9 in that 3-5-2 formation. That is what Iwobi and Iheanacho loves doing. Rohr is trying to find a place for Iheanacho because he realized Iheanacho can't play the traditional strike role in our 4-2-3-1 formation hence the reason he tried him on the wing and later paird him with Iwobi in 3-5-2 formation. But i don't think we will use only one formation hence the need to have a traditional strike and CF in the team. If we want to go far in the WC else we will get stucked when teams decode our one way pattern of play. That's if we stick with just one formation which is typical with African teams. Rashidi Yekini scored a goal and provided 2 assists. One was from the flank. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:36pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Icon79:It's good you used the word 'might'. But come to think of it:throughout our WCQ series Vicmo always tracked back whether on the right or left to help defensively. Remember he initiated most of our counters from deep within our own half. So if he can do that in a formation that doesn't put the primary duty to defend on him why won't he do that when he plays in a formation that actually puts that duty on him to defend?. I think what you said has more to do with perception than the reality. Same thing when people say Vicmo is one of our selfish players. Before yes. But not under Rohr. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:40pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida:thanks for this, I pointed it out to him in my reply. And also, I might agree with your view on Moses unselfishness under the same coach Rohr. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:41pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
blueto:I replied his posts with exactly the points you just put forward here without reading your posts. Same thing when people say Vicmo is selfish. If that refers to Vicmo of previous years I'd say yes but not Vicmo under Rohr. To continue to say that about him is just a carry over from the past. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:43pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: I am making my points with facts. Nothing like discredit here. Or should I just pretend as if i no know the truth. How come you did not ask questions when people discredited Martins and Kayode without given a cogent fact, huh? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:45pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida: You are correct about his work ethic but he still has a selfish streak.. Sometimes that selfishness works for the team. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Things became worst/bad for him when Raneri was fired. It was like he was the one that kept playing for Raneri when other players stopped playing for him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:46pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
forgiveness:When I read about that Gaurdiola I realised that he won't want Iheanacho. That man is something else. Iheanacho is not his kind of player. I don't think he rates Nacho. If Nacho had stayed there and trained for a whole millennium, Gaurdiola will still not buy into Nacho. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:48pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: List 5 of them and the role they can play. Definitely Iheanacho is not among. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:49pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I believe, Pellegrini would have taken Kelechi to the next level. Pep destroyed his confidence, he is yet to fully recover. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:50pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Mujtahida: But thegoodjoe thinks otherwise. Pls, tell him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:50pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
RoyalBlak007:If the team doesn't think 9points they might not get 4points. It's better they set they set the stakes high. It would bring out the best in them. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:53pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
forgiveness:This got me thinking. But how come we've been prolific in front of goal. Abi na luck? Mind you unlike previous squads, the current defenders scored no gials |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 9:54pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
As things stands right now, and if it continues till the world cup proper, it will pure bias if Musa and, or, Kelechi goes to the World Cup and Onyenkuru doesn't make it! Dude is VicMo 1.0 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:58pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
somehow: It's his style fine, and if he's to progress that much further, he needs to understand others and shouldn't always be the other way round. Can you compare the Mourinho of then, to the mourinho of now? He's a bit more reserved and sensible of recent. Or you think he'd always be afforded with the luxury of scattering everything before building up, by team owners who are looking after their business. For example he's given a 6-month contract to save a team from relegation and his contract can be extended if he succeed, would you advise him to spend all his time hunting for coaches and players to sack just because they don't fit in or advise him to get to work almost immediately with what is made available to him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:58pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
PurpleHouse: It is not bias if Kelechi goes to the WC. He has generally done well for Nigeria. His goal and assist return is still outstanding for the super eagles. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:01pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:OK, passport comes first before football. I hear you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:03pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Icon79:Anyway, he haven't been playing for the main team since August when he signed. Now he's playing for the U21's. You should be worried. Very worried. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:04pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
tbaba1234:leave the club football fanatics. Let me use his analogy in a different light As things stand now, it will be pure bias if Ezenwa goest to the World Cup and Akpeyi doesn't, Akpeyi is doing great for his club and Ezenwa is not even sure of a shirt in his 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 10:05pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
forgiveness: For you to single out Martins and Kayode shows that it is all sentiment void of rationalism. How come you didn't add Nwakaeme and Ezenwa on your list of people that were discredited on this thread? Abi you wear mask for face when they were discredited? I don't even remember people discrediting Kayode, he just was unlucky with Rohr 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:05pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
blueto: I can't forget his display on his debut against Hull. He was simply unplayable that day. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:07pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
Icon4s:Let's assume you're correct then. He probably got injured in the game against Argentina. I hope when we look back at Kelechi's career when he retires. We won't realise we've excused him into sheer nothingness and mediocrity. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 10:07pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Yes. I know he's done well so far, but him not playing regularly is a big factor. Well, I know Rohr will definitely take him even if his club relegate him to under 16 or under O! But in Henry, we have another Victor Moses. I don't see why we shouldn't be playing both of them at once from the wings. Damn! Have you seen that dude play? Who says we can't trouble any team at the WC? But its not just about having the best legs, its all about FIELDING the best legs. And I hope we get it right this time. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:11pm On Dec 07, 2017 |
junnyjake:His brace also against Barcelona in a preseason friendly was a delight to watch. 1 Like |
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