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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by Nobody: 8:58pm On Dec 07, 2017
Please follow African traditional religion and avoid genocide

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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by yanshDoctor: 9:03pm On Dec 07, 2017
smoy:
go on with more of your research and you will come to know the truth that Isiac and Ishmael were all blessed by God and Jesus came from Isiac while Muhammed came from lineage of Ishmael and they all came with one religion to follow and worship One God only not Jesus not Muhammed is worthy to be worship.

on this city is the city of the holy massangers and it belongs to all followers of these prophet of One God and it was the followers of the other prophet that changes the religion of God of total submission called Islam, Jesus never came with a religion called christianity nor Moses came with Judaism they all came to submite to One God and that is called Islam. later or sooner islam shall take over the city in its totality.
you are a bad dreamer. and you need to wake up fast
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by yanshDoctor: 9:28pm On Dec 07, 2017
smoy:
Forces? they all belong to Allah and shall obey when the time comes and its near.
this guy is a confirmed terrorist. cc ciaspy
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 10:07pm On Dec 07, 2017
Ferisidowu:



lolz I understand you .... but what he's tryna say is that they already possibly forgot the pronunciation some pronounce it
yahveh

yehweh

etc

beside the internet is a friend
יהוה may be difficult to pronounce but it is 1000% certain that it is not allah
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by Nobody: 10:08pm On Dec 07, 2017
shadeyinka:

יהוה may be difficult to pronounce but it is 1000% certain that it is not allah
lolz anyways I don't affirm that either ... Am contented with GOD
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 10:17pm On Dec 07, 2017
Ferisidowu:
lolz anyways I don't affirm that either ... Am contented with GOD

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

God is a Title like King, President, Proprietor etc and it is OK by me too as long as we refer to the same Personality.

Buhari is a President
Trump is also a President
But these are different personalities just as Allah and יהוה are two different personalities

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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by Rockyrascal(m): 10:57pm On Dec 07, 2017
Alao046:
I read a post on this forum this morning about Donald triumph declaring Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It was stated that the population of Jerusalem is about 850000 people, with 61% jews and 37% Muslims, meaning that other religion such as Christianity, Hinduism and others are under the remaining 2%. I went to the wikipedia to browse about religion in Israel and i discovered that in their 2011 census, they had 71% jews, 16.9% Muslims, 2.1% jeschristainsin and 1.7% druze.
Why is there a very poor population of Christians in Israel, i also read that the third holiest ground in Islam is in Jerusalem(al-aqsa mosque), behind the mosque s in mecca and medinna. I want to know why all these, there ought to be a very little number of Muslims in the state, and vice-versal for the xtains, but instead their population is increasing, from 16.9% in 2011 to 37% in 2017. Jesus Christ was a christain and came from Israel, how come there are no xtains in Israel today, why are they jews and Muslims mostly. Where does Christianity hails from, if not Israel . Why do Muslims have their third holiest land in where ought to be a christain land. All these question are going through my mind now, please who are these Jews and who are these Muslims. I need answers please.
jesus christ from what I learnt was a jew. although he introduced christianity which was later preached all over the world via the apostles;by the way christianity is not a religion.

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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 8:54am On Dec 08, 2017
fellowman:


This from the islamic Hadith

"Kanz Al Umal" (The Treasure of the Workers), in the chapter of "The issues of women", authored by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in "Al-Jami Al-Saghir," written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.
Narrated by Ibn Abbas:

"I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib"… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali.

The Arabic scholar Demetrius explains : "The Arabic word used here for "slept" is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "lay down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a "mother of the believers." This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since Muslims believed that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave.
i pity your soul with your hadith, a leaner
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 9:09am On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:

It would be nice if you can find a quranic verse to support your claim.

Here is mine from the scriptures, I can give you more if you want





That's not true. God is refereed to as God, Lord, Almighty, Jehovah, etc in the Bible. A few where Jehovah is directly used is below

Genesis22:14 And Avraham called the name of that place Hashem Yireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of Hashem it shall be provided. was it called jehoha jire or Hashem yireh
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 9:12am On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:

We are saying the same thing. The servant of Allah (Abdallah) worshipped an idol. Dont forget that Allah had three daughters in the Kaaba then. You want their names?
quote the authority don't mention. my query is clear.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 9:57am On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
Genesis22:14 And Avraham called the name of that place Hashem Yireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of Hashem it shall be provided. was it called jehoha jire or Hashem yireh

I don't know where you got this your translation from but I willbadvise you to check out the Hebrew-English interlinear (literal ) translation to see the lies in your above quote

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/22.htm
Meaning Jehovah/Yahweh will provide!

Genesis 22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah jireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

Genesis 22:14 And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, “In the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided.”

But you just suddenly reminded me that Islam just managed to change Isaac to Ishmael in a twinkle of an eye (without giving any detail) so as to hide the lies deep (no questions to be asked)
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 10:37am On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
quote the authority don't mention. my query is clear.
Who brought pure monotheism to the Arabs?
Abdullah or Mohammed?

The answer is starring you in the face!
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by fellowman: 11:25am On Dec 08, 2017
Alao046:

so if i say i sleep with my mom on the bed, it means that we had sex. To SLEEP beside someone is structurally and gramatically different from having SEX with someone. You can see that the evidence you brought is rubbish and does not relate to having sex. I still tell you, you are not KNOWLEDGEABLE. Tell Jesus that the evidence he brought is rubbish, that he should give you another one.

ﺑْﻦِ ﺃَﺑِﻲ ﻃَﺎﻟِﺐٍ ﺭَﺿِﻲَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻨْﻪُ ﺧَﻠَﻊَ ﺭَﺳُﻮﻝُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺻَﻠَّﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﻭَﺳَﻠَّﻢَ ﻗَﻤِﻴﺼَﻪُ ﻓَﺄَﻟْﺒَﺴَﻪُ ﺇِﻳَّﺎﻫَﺎ ﻭَﺍﺿْﻄَﺠَﻊَ ﻣَﻌَﻬَﺎ ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺒْﺮِﻫَﺎ ، ﻓَﻠَﻤَّﺎ ﺳَﻮَّﻯ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﺍﻟﺘُّﺮَﺍﺏُ ﻗَﺎﻟُﻮﺍ : ﻳَﺎ ﺭَﺳُﻮﻝَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺭَﺃَﻳْﻨَﺎﻙَ ﺻَﻨَﻌْﺖَ ﺷَﻴْﺌًﺎ ﻟَﻢْ ﺗَﺼْﻨَﻌْﻪُ ﺑِﺄَﺣَﺪٍ . ﻗَﺎﻝَ " : ﺇِﻧِّﻲ ﺃَﻟْﺒَﺴْﺘُﻬَﺎ ﻗَﻤِﻴﺼِﻲ ﻟِﺘَﻠْﺒَﺲَ ﻣِﻦْ ﺛِﻴَﺎﺏِ ﺍﻟْﺠَﻨَّﺔِ ، ﻭَﺍﺿْﻄَﺠَﻌْﺖُ ﻣَﻌَﻬَﺎ ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺒْﺮِﻫَﺎ ﻟِﻴُﺨَﻔِّﻒَ ﻋَﻨْﻬَﺎ ﻣِﻦْ ﺿَﻐْﻄَﺔِ ﺍﻟْﻘَﺒْﺮِ

I don't know how to find the English version but I can translate it:

When the mother of Ali ibn Talib died, the prophet took off his shirt, put it on her and had intercourse with her. After the burying they asked him: O prophet of Allah, we sow you doing something you have not done with anyone before. He said: I dressed her in my shirt so she would be dressed in Paradise garments and had intercourse with her so the pressure of the grave would be reduced.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 12:16pm On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:


I don't know where you got this your translation from but I willbadvise you to check out the Hebrew-English interlinear (literal ) translation to see the lies in your above quote

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/22.htm
Meaning Jehovah/Yahweh will provide!



But you just suddenly reminded me that Islam just managed to change Isaac to Ishmael in a twinkle of an eye (without giving any detail) so as to hide the lies deep (no questions to be asked)
any body can wake up one day and decided to call God anything he likes in the bible

Genesis22:14 Avraham called the place Adonai Yir’eh [Adonai will see (to it), Adonai provides] — as it is said to this day, “On the mountain Adonai is seen.”
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 12:17pm On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:

Who brought pure monotheism to the Arabs?
Abdullah or Mohammed?

The answer is starring you in the face!
Abraham and Ismail
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by boliswitpassprik(m): 12:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
go on with more of your research and you will come to know the truth that Isiac and Ishmael were all blessed by God and Jesus came from Isiac while Muhammed came from lineage of Ishmael and they all came with one religion to follow and worship One God only not Jesus not Muhammed is worthy to be worship.

on this city is the city of the holy massangers and it belongs to all followers of these prophet of One God and it was the followers of the other prophet that changes the religion of God of total submission called Islam, Jesus never came with a religion called christianity nor Moses came with Judaism they all came to submite to One God and that is called Islam. later or sooner islam shall take over the city in its totality.




thunda faya your your left ball!
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 2:08pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
Abraham and Ismail
Your knowledge of history is appalling!
Abraham wasn't an Arab
Ishmael wasn't an Arab
Are they?
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 2:09pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
any body can wake up one day and decided to call God anything he likes in the bible

Genesis22:14 Avraham called the place Adonai Yir’eh [Adonai will see (to it), Adonai provides] — as it is said to this day, “On the mountain Adonai is seen.”
And I hear that you Muslims speak of the 99 names of Allah!
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 2:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:

Your knowledge of history is appalling!
Abraham wasn't an Arab
Ishmael wasn't an Arab
Are they?
the were the founder of the Arab nation, Ismail was the Father of Arabs. historian shadeyinka.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 2:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
shadeyinka:

And I hear that you Muslims speak of the 99 names of Allah!
why shifting goalpost, let go on don't be tired so soon.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 2:57pm On Dec 08, 2017
boliswitpassprik:





thunda faya your your left ball!
for wating i do you now
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by cooljude(m): 3:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
the God of Jew was never called Jehova, the original neme of God was lost in the Jew descendant for the reason that they dont called the name of God for its holiness and that was how it got lost. Allah was the name. research yourself.

Islam is a spin-off of Christianity and Judaism as Christianity is a spin-off of Judaism. Zoroastrian preceded Judaism as a monotheist Religion.

Their isn't a need arguing with your view because most religious bigots are narrowed minded who don't have the ability to criticise and analyse their faith.

Religion is man-made and to correct your fallacy, Allah was one of the many pagan GOD in Arabia same as the new Yahweh was once one of the many Pagan GOD.

I have to admit the islam is a better copy of Judaism because of the monotheistic nature of the religion while christaiity is something else because of the concept of Trinity.

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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 4:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
cooljude:


Islam is a spin-off of Christianity and Judaism as Christianity is a spin-off of Judaism. Zoroastrian preceded Judaism as a monotheist Religion.

Their isn't a need arguing with your view because most religious bigots are narrowed minded who don't have the ability to criticise and analyse their faith.

Religion is man-made and to correct your fallacy, Allah was one of the many pagan GOD in Arabia same as the new Yahweh was once one of the many Pagan GOD.

I have to admit the islam is a better copy of Judaism because of the monotheistic nature of the religion while christaiity is something else because of the concept of Trinity.
so why mentioning me since you know my opinion already.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by cooljude(m): 6:09pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
so why mentioning me since you know my opinion already.

I quoted to you to rebuff your claim about Allah being the authentic God of Hebrews. Your statement was false.

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Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by mujahid777(m): 6:13pm On Dec 08, 2017
fellowman:


ﺑْﻦِ ﺃَﺑِﻲ ﻃَﺎﻟِﺐٍ ﺭَﺿِﻲَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻨْﻪُ ﺧَﻠَﻊَ ﺭَﺳُﻮﻝُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺻَﻠَّﻰ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﻭَﺳَﻠَّﻢَ ﻗَﻤِﻴﺼَﻪُ ﻓَﺄَﻟْﺒَﺴَﻪُ ﺇِﻳَّﺎﻫَﺎ ﻭَﺍﺿْﻄَﺠَﻊَ ﻣَﻌَﻬَﺎ ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺒْﺮِﻫَﺎ ، ﻓَﻠَﻤَّﺎ ﺳَﻮَّﻯ ﻋَﻠَﻴْﻪِ ﺍﻟﺘُّﺮَﺍﺏُ ﻗَﺎﻟُﻮﺍ : ﻳَﺎ ﺭَﺳُﻮﻝَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺭَﺃَﻳْﻨَﺎﻙَ ﺻَﻨَﻌْﺖَ ﺷَﻴْﺌًﺎ ﻟَﻢْ ﺗَﺼْﻨَﻌْﻪُ ﺑِﺄَﺣَﺪٍ . ﻗَﺎﻝَ " : ﺇِﻧِّﻲ ﺃَﻟْﺒَﺴْﺘُﻬَﺎ ﻗَﻤِﻴﺼِﻲ ﻟِﺘَﻠْﺒَﺲَ ﻣِﻦْ ﺛِﻴَﺎﺏِ ﺍﻟْﺠَﻨَّﺔِ ، ﻭَﺍﺿْﻄَﺠَﻌْﺖُ ﻣَﻌَﻬَﺎ ﻓِﻲ ﻗَﺒْﺮِﻫَﺎ ﻟِﻴُﺨَﻔِّﻒَ ﻋَﻨْﻬَﺎ ﻣِﻦْ ﺿَﻐْﻄَﺔِ ﺍﻟْﻘَﺒْﺮِ

I don't know how to find the English version but I can translate it:

When the mother of Ali ibn Talib died, the prophet took off his shirt, put it on her and had intercourse with her. After the burying they asked him: O prophet of Allah, we sow you doing something you have not done with anyone before. He said: I dressed her in my shirt so she would be dressed in Paradise garments and had intercourse with her so the pressure of the grave would be reduced.
Is that so sad
What else won't you moröns say
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by 313numbers: 10:39pm On Dec 08, 2017
Google has all the answers.... Just wash yourself of bias (like un sharing lands anyhow,,,) so the Canaanites been dey live for air if all the lands belonged to the Israelites?
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by shadeyinka(m): 11:35pm On Dec 08, 2017
smoy:
the were the founder of the Arab nation, Ismail was the Father of Arabs. historian shadeyinka.

Are Jews also Arabs since Abraham was the father of Jacob. You didn't get the point.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by 0temSapien: 12:22am On Dec 09, 2017
Alao046:
I read a post on this forum this morning about Donald triumph declaring Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It was stated that the population of Jerusalem is about 850000 people, with 61% jews and 37% Muslims, meaning that other religion such as Christianity, Hinduism and others are under the remaining 2%. I went to the wikipedia to browse about religion in Israel and i discovered that in their 2011 census, they had 71% jews, 16.9% Muslims, 2.1% christainsin and 1.7% druze.
Why is there a very poor population of Christians in Israel, i also read that the third holiest ground in Islam is in Jerusalem(al-aqsa mosque), behind the mosque s in mecca and medinna. I want to know why all these, there ought to be a very little number of Muslims in the state, and vice-versal for the xtains, but instead their population is increasing, from 16.9% in 2011 to 37% in 2017. Jesus Christ was a christain and came from Israel, how come there are no xtains in Israel today, why are they jews and Muslims mostly. Where does Christianity hails from, if not Israel . Why do Muslims have their third holiest land in where ought to be a christain land. All these question are going through my mind now, please who are these Jews and who are these Muslims. I need answers please.
Christianity began from the ink and papers of Eusebius who was a Greek and not an Israelite. He wrote Jesus Christ to life by fusing together the characters of many past figures who existed in the past world of the Neanderthals and homo erectuses. Even till today, the Israelites wondered how the great crime called Christianity was committed against them.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 6:56am On Dec 09, 2017
cooljude:


I quoted to you to rebuff your claim about Allah being the authentic God of Hebrews. Your statement was false.
Mark 15:34 At three, he uttered a loud cry, “Elohi! Elohi! L’mah sh’vaktani?” (which means, “My God! My God! Why have you deserted me?”)

those that sound like Allah or not, Jesus uses Allah.
Re: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:47am On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:

Are Jews also Arabs since Abraham was the father of Jacob. You didn't get the point.
no is you that don't get it, in your bible God promises Abraham of multiple nations, Jew and Arab are inclusive.

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